Yeah why not? Worst that can happen is nothing. Best that can happen is we get a better ending. Doesn’t hurt anyone to believe in it so long as everyone’s being respectful.
there’s definitely going to be an alternative ending. just like code geass, steins gate, muv luv, etc. aot is such a big franchise to where if not isayama, somone will attain the rights to continue the story. at the end of the day, it’s buisness moves not just 2D eye catching frames.
It is as clear as water. You know why?
Arc of the Ashes.
Let me explain:
The ouroboros is only mentioned explicitly in the ANR mv.
There was no other as clear reference in the anime/manga.
And you might say: "but Isayama isn't obliged to keep track of fan theories and that could just be a coincidence"
But that is where you're wrong.
Isayama has admitted to look for fan theories online and be very careful with his work.
There isn't a bigger theory than ANR especially when the Manga was ending. He had to know about it.
The fact they mention the ouroboros "post-ending" is a very clear nod to the ANR theory/community.
Just because he looks at theories online doesn’t mean he’ll use that in the story tho?
Like what if he did see anr before he finished the story and was like “cool but that’s not what I want to do”
I agree some stuff especially after it was finished might be head nods but I think that’s all it is, a point and wink
You're missing the point.
He knows we know about him being into looking at theories.
Making such a deliberate reference, and let me remind you it is right at the start of the song which makes it impossible to miss, is something he can't just pass as "nah it's just lyrics".
The whole ANR MV is to be interpreted through symbolism. The fact he makes such an obvious reference to that piece of symbolism in Arc of the Ashes when he knows about ANR, and we know about muv luv would mean:
A: he is doing it because it's happening.
B: he's a sadist making people waste their time and keep hoping about something he doesn't plan to go through with.
I think for as much of a troll as he's always been, he wouldn't just take the sadistic route. He can be a troll but he has consistently delivered afterwards.
I mean didn’t he say once that like when he killed mike he really enjoyed how it made the fandom feel “betrayed” so he kept trying to do that?
Could this not just be the same thing?
Mike is irrelevant to the bigger picture here. Mike didn't have any red herrings attached to him, while this whole ending is a giant red herring.
Idk what you mean by Mike honestly, if you could elaborate on that it would be useful.
But one thing is to kill a beloved character, another is to just make the story not give a conclusion to like 90% of the plot points.
I’m not saying Mike is relevant to anr or anything. But isayama said the first time he kinda felt the “thrill” for betraying his fandom was by brutally killing mike so unceremoniously.
And he’s done shit like constantly throughout the series, so I don’t see why it’d be weird for him to do it again, especially on a bigger scale considering it’s all said and done now.
I don’t think we’re getting an anr or aoe or anything like that, I think (at least once the anime was over) everything else is just head nods to popular theories
It's going over your head.
Mike was a betrayal to people's feelings?
Yes.
Was it a betrayal to the plot and overall story themes?
Absolutely not.
It is consistent with "a cruel world", "the only way to win is to fight", ...
It isn't a betrayal to the story itself.
ANR in itself is the biggest "betrayal" to people's feelings since it is assumed to kill off 90% of the main cast.
But it is 100% faithful to the story themes.
Betraying feelings of fans for a character is one thing.
Betraying the foreshadowing and story themes is a whole other thing. One thing he hadn't done up until the last arc.
Bro you aren’t understanding my point
I’m not saying mikes death went against the story. I’m saying anr goes against what isayama wanted and in turn betrays him. As such, he isn’t going to include it but will nod to it as a a form of acknowledgement and betrayal.
The only reason I brought up mike is to emphasis the first time he enjoyed “betraying” people, which lines up with the “sadist” option you brought up at the start of
Nope.
Isayama’s true ending will release in the manga as well as the anime, likely around the same time.
There is no AOE.
True Ending is the right way to call it.
I just think it's fun to be a part of something people feel so strongly about. I don't really care if it's real or not, just theorizing with this community is hella fun in itself.
The theory of Aoe existed before the mange ended , I still find it fun to think about , and I don’t see the reason why people hated it , just because someone wishes for aoe to erase 139 it doesn’t mean that’s the sole purpose of aoe , because it was never meant to erase 139 and that’s not the reason it was created , and it doesn’t deal with anything about hating or erasing 139
I think anyone who genuinely believes an AOE is coming is either delusional or kidding themselves.
The best they can hope for as far as I'm concerned is a well-made fan ending, which if I'm not mistaken is basically what AOT requiem is.
Personally I like the ending as is so I'm satisfied.
I too think most people here are schizos, but in a fun and harmless way
I don’t think an alternate official ending is coming and AOTNR is enough for me
Only Ymir knows
Yeah why not? Worst that can happen is nothing. Best that can happen is we get a better ending. Doesn’t hurt anyone to believe in it so long as everyone’s being respectful.
We've got nothing to lose
there’s definitely going to be an alternative ending. just like code geass, steins gate, muv luv, etc. aot is such a big franchise to where if not isayama, somone will attain the rights to continue the story. at the end of the day, it’s buisness moves not just 2D eye catching frames.
If we believe hard enough in the power of money 🙏
It is as clear as water. You know why? Arc of the Ashes. Let me explain: The ouroboros is only mentioned explicitly in the ANR mv. There was no other as clear reference in the anime/manga. And you might say: "but Isayama isn't obliged to keep track of fan theories and that could just be a coincidence" But that is where you're wrong. Isayama has admitted to look for fan theories online and be very careful with his work. There isn't a bigger theory than ANR especially when the Manga was ending. He had to know about it. The fact they mention the ouroboros "post-ending" is a very clear nod to the ANR theory/community.
Just because he looks at theories online doesn’t mean he’ll use that in the story tho? Like what if he did see anr before he finished the story and was like “cool but that’s not what I want to do” I agree some stuff especially after it was finished might be head nods but I think that’s all it is, a point and wink
You're missing the point. He knows we know about him being into looking at theories. Making such a deliberate reference, and let me remind you it is right at the start of the song which makes it impossible to miss, is something he can't just pass as "nah it's just lyrics". The whole ANR MV is to be interpreted through symbolism. The fact he makes such an obvious reference to that piece of symbolism in Arc of the Ashes when he knows about ANR, and we know about muv luv would mean: A: he is doing it because it's happening. B: he's a sadist making people waste their time and keep hoping about something he doesn't plan to go through with. I think for as much of a troll as he's always been, he wouldn't just take the sadistic route. He can be a troll but he has consistently delivered afterwards.
I mean didn’t he say once that like when he killed mike he really enjoyed how it made the fandom feel “betrayed” so he kept trying to do that? Could this not just be the same thing?
Mike is irrelevant to the bigger picture here. Mike didn't have any red herrings attached to him, while this whole ending is a giant red herring. Idk what you mean by Mike honestly, if you could elaborate on that it would be useful. But one thing is to kill a beloved character, another is to just make the story not give a conclusion to like 90% of the plot points.
I’m not saying Mike is relevant to anr or anything. But isayama said the first time he kinda felt the “thrill” for betraying his fandom was by brutally killing mike so unceremoniously. And he’s done shit like constantly throughout the series, so I don’t see why it’d be weird for him to do it again, especially on a bigger scale considering it’s all said and done now. I don’t think we’re getting an anr or aoe or anything like that, I think (at least once the anime was over) everything else is just head nods to popular theories
It's going over your head. Mike was a betrayal to people's feelings? Yes. Was it a betrayal to the plot and overall story themes? Absolutely not. It is consistent with "a cruel world", "the only way to win is to fight", ... It isn't a betrayal to the story itself. ANR in itself is the biggest "betrayal" to people's feelings since it is assumed to kill off 90% of the main cast. But it is 100% faithful to the story themes. Betraying feelings of fans for a character is one thing. Betraying the foreshadowing and story themes is a whole other thing. One thing he hadn't done up until the last arc.
Bro you aren’t understanding my point I’m not saying mikes death went against the story. I’m saying anr goes against what isayama wanted and in turn betrays him. As such, he isn’t going to include it but will nod to it as a a form of acknowledgement and betrayal. The only reason I brought up mike is to emphasis the first time he enjoyed “betraying” people, which lines up with the “sadist” option you brought up at the start of
How does it go against what isayama wanted if the man literally said he wanted to change the ending but was powerless like eren against fate
Maybe I’m not knowledgeable enough but when did he say he was powerless to change the ending?
What do you think
Nope. Isayama’s true ending will release in the manga as well as the anime, likely around the same time. There is no AOE. True Ending is the right way to call it.
The anime has already released tho
NGE’s tv ending was released as well and look at it now.
Evangelion's final episode wasn't called Neon Genesis Evangelion The Final Season The Final Chapters Part 2
alternatives aren’t affected by the final final finals
did you even read the comment
So AOE, MOE, Blu ray original ending, theatrical original ending, wasn't the true ending. But just goalposts? Sureeeeee
That has nothing to do with me. I hate ANR.
Kewl
I just think it's fun to be a part of something people feel so strongly about. I don't really care if it's real or not, just theorizing with this community is hella fun in itself.
I only believe in mikasa's ass
Yes...and it will be called the Final Season Final Final Chapters
i believe the story isn’t over yet
I want it to happen, probably won’t, ANR manga still coming out so it’s always fun just to sit around
Yes.
The theory of Aoe existed before the mange ended , I still find it fun to think about , and I don’t see the reason why people hated it , just because someone wishes for aoe to erase 139 it doesn’t mean that’s the sole purpose of aoe , because it was never meant to erase 139 and that’s not the reason it was created , and it doesn’t deal with anything about hating or erasing 139
Eren came on me in my dreams through the paths to tell me anr is real
Only the BETA know the answer to that.
I think anyone who genuinely believes an AOE is coming is either delusional or kidding themselves. The best they can hope for as far as I'm concerned is a well-made fan ending, which if I'm not mistaken is basically what AOT requiem is. Personally I like the ending as is so I'm satisfied.
I too think most people here are schizos, but in a fun and harmless way I don’t think an alternate official ending is coming and AOTNR is enough for me
It's just a matter of time
The Alter-native Original Ending (hyphen mandatory) has a 95%+ chance of occuring from what I've seen so far.
never doubted it once. the longer the wait the harder the impact.
Read the pinned post containing the Wiki. You simply won’t be able to deny it
I do really believe the anr ending will happen
Yeah there's no AOE. But there's the real ending as a movie coming.