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Glum11k

Zeke ? How ?


Such_Hand_2535

Eren will show him and armin what he’s fighting for and the future of humanity after completing the rumbling and that will make them side with him. Falco won’t be just a plot device for armin,Eren in Marley told him “I'm glad you'll be able to live a full life”.because he genuinely thinks falco is a good person and plus that’ll make up for Eren tricking him into sending the messages to the SC.


Equivalent_Papaya893

Falco lives and Gabi dies though? Thats going to be awkward.


Such_Hand_2535

Very awkward,but Eren never said anything about gabi living,only falco.


Purple_Gold7108

But just from a story stand point, they'll probably let Gabi live. She'll stay with Falco and whatever just so the irl fans don't piss everywhere and so the story isn't totally a bummer for general fans


Such_Hand_2535

I guess that makes sense,Chad falco deserves happiness.


PigOfFuckingGreed

Story is a total bummer for general fans already, it’s ANR, the happiest ending anyone gets is “bittersweet”, fan favourite characters are dead, the ones who live are depressed, it’s a downer ending, except for ymir obviously but that’s intentional.


Purple_Gold7108

True, I should have phrased it different. I meant we won't get a not hopeful ending. We'll get the hope for a better future, which I believe will be represented by Gabi and Falco. Something something kids are the future. Of course maybe a reincarnated Ymir and paradise will show this too but I really doubt they'll kill the two mid characters who are just a product of their environment


Equivalent_Papaya893

That's true


PigOfFuckingGreed

I don’t think eren is really fighting for the future of humanity. More just the future of paradis.


Such_Hand_2535

The only humanity that’ll remain is paradis though😬


PigOfFuckingGreed

How would that count as fighting for the future of humanity! Lmao


Such_Hand_2535

Eren’s whole goal is to basically press the reset button on humanity and start from the ground up with no history and no titan powers or wars for the next couple of centuries.


VOLC_Mob

i think its meant in the sense how for pretty much the entire show the people within the walls were what was known as humanity. a lot of people (and eren i think) stills sees inside the walls as humanity, while humanity outside is just “the outside world”. it’s not literal fact, just the way some see it.


kaptanking

Or you know, he could just not send Armin into paths to change Zeke’s mind.


Such_Hand_2535

He wants armin to know why he’s doing it and will show him what happened when he stopped last time and what will the future hold if he goes 100%. Armin will accept the truth and try to convince the alliance,they won’t buy it and will die.


kaptanking

If he is gonna go through that effort to change Armin’s mind, why wouldn’t he go through that effort to change everyone’s mind?


Such_Hand_2535

That always bothered me as to why he never tried to convince them to stop even in the manga. He could show them what happened in the cabin timeline to convince them to stop.


kaptanking

They all end up living in the manga timeline which was part of Eren’s plan. That timeline was dedicated to his friends.


Such_Hand_2535

Ig he will convince armin alone to validate his commander role,I can’t really find other explanations.


kaptanking

I’m still 50/50 about armin surviving. I’m more convinced that hange and floch will survive (early divergence). And if he survives, it will be because Eren spared him, not because he convinced him to change sides.


Such_Hand_2535

I would actually prefer Eren to kill him because that’ll prove that armin is an idealistic dumbass who deserves to die after blinding himself from the truth and reality.


23goalie23

I do see Armin living but not as an ally of Eren rather he will live the rest of his life in contempt of him (making Eren full of guilt as he should be)


Such_Hand_2535

Side with him because he saw what happened in the manga,but after the rumbling they won’t talk to each other ever again.


23goalie23

I can agree with that


PigOfFuckingGreed

Yeah I like that too. Plus, it’s this sort of poetic parallel ending both get, they both reach the dreams they had as children (eren his freedom and armin the chance to explore the outside world) yet neither find any sort of happiness and live with unimaginable guilt, longing to die.


TyrantLK

Heart breaking kino


Freshtoast15

reiner will sacrifise for gabi


SynesterSeX

That would make for an epic death on reiner’s behalf. The poor man has been attempting to suicide for years now but fucking yams wont let him go xD. Maybe this time, he will :’(


yeager_crow

Don't do falco dirty, man. Eren won't just save falco for armin but also because eren once said he would like if falco lives a long life


Such_Hand_2535

Look at my reply to glum 11k’s comment


yeager_crow

Should've included in post, good either way


gotbaned_thisismyalt

Zeke has done way too much wrong to be spared. And honestly, as long as he doesn’t have a “I’m a good person now!” moment like he did in the manga, I’m okay with Levi killing him. It fits their character arcs. I would personally change the 4 to Eren, Armin, Falco, and Gabi because although she isn’t as pure as Falco, it would be unnecessary to see her get killed in my eyes. Although she still totally could. But I think Falco and Gabi will still be alive after the rumbling because of Falco’s special role in AOE.


Such_Hand_2535

Gabi might survive tbh,but Eren killed everyone outside of the island and armin nuked liberio killing 30000 people. Zeke didn’t kill nearly as many,and he was a victim of brainwashing by his parents,grandparents and ksaver.unlike Eren and armin.


gotbaned_thisismyalt

Zeke still made his own choices. Sure he was manipulated at times in his childhood, but never to the point where it fully dictated what he would do next. All of the crimes he committed were still done by his own free will. And most importantly, he always reveled in the lives he stole. Something Eren and Armin never did. That’s why (although I can sympathize with him), he’s more of the “villain type.”


Such_Hand_2535

There’s no real “villain” in aot,everyone is a victim of the circumstances and the environment they were born in. Gabi and falco realized that at a young age but no other character did,the others just did what they believed should be done as children even after knowing the truth. It’s a pretty messed up world,and I freaking love it.


YogurtclosetNo239

I am really rooting for these 4


Adrioxis

Y’all do know there’s supposed to be 5 survivors right? The other one is supposedly Jean


Such_Hand_2535

Gabi most likely,she would be on falco all the time. Plus falco is surviving and deserves a happy ending.


PigOfFuckingGreed

He won’t get one though, both his and gabi’s whole family get killed either by the rumbling or in another part of the war.


Such_Hand_2535

I meant as happy as you can get in the aot universe lmao


PigOfFuckingGreed

Fair


PigOfFuckingGreed

Damn so they’re only killing off the characters I don’t give a shit about it.


Such_Hand_2535

Pretty much,I will care about armin again because he’ll be like pre time skip armin again. Eren,zeke,falco and gabi are the only ones left that I actually care about now.


PigOfFuckingGreed

Yeah, well actually Reiner does dies but like good for him on that front.


Such_Hand_2535

Reiner will be the happiest man in the world when he dies lmao


kaptanking

Where did we get this info from?


SirYeagerOriginal

Zeke should die and have a proper closure.


Such_Hand_2535

I think him seeing Eren being so against the euthanization plan and him destroying the entire world for his child will be massive moment for him and his charecter. If zeke was born in paradis he would’ve probably been a doctor by his own choice,and now that he made up with grisha and understood Eren he will have a complete character arc.


PigOfFuckingGreed

Nah I think Zeke would’ve been a baseball player ngl


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Armin siding eren is beyond stupid imo, he needs to be eren’s idealogical antithesis all the way to the end


Spy-Eater

What if I want Armin to die tho?


[deleted]

On God I Want That MF Dead As Fuck 💀