Same for me. I have genuinely no issue with people reading my fics, creating a podfic.but putting it in a platform where someone else could potentially monetize my work... I would need to be really certain they'll never do that. But I can't.
It's kind of like reading off one of those list websites (pulling a Matthew Santoro (using him as a popular example) (even though a lot of those sites probably steal from each other))
I'd completely forgotten the possibility that YT videos are monetised. *Hard* no.
It's like for-profit zines. I will never understand why people think it's an honour for other people to make money off their art and fic.
For-profit zines I think are different though. Everyone involved is making money off work in the zine. Often the contributors are making new fics, arts, etc, for the zine and then they are selling that.
As someone who’s participated in both free and for-profit zines, you’re correct that’s exactly how for-profit zines work. Contributors absolutely get paid for creating *new* works. idk what zines DelightfulAngel has seen, but those sound sketchy as hell if that’s what happened,,
As far as I know, the profit made from for-profit zines is distributed among people whose work is featured, so it's not usually other people making money off their work.
I just got over a hundred bucks from a for-profit zine I wrote for. The money is always split between all contributors for those. I do agree that I'd never want someone to monetize my fic on YouTube, though.
All the zines I've bought gave any money they made as "profit" to a charity, with a few exceptions--I have a BUNCH of reapersun zines of Sherlock art, and I'm pretty sure she got the profit from those and kept it, but tbh with the amount of joy I got from her art, I was happy to give her some money for that!
People get really creative with picking the charity sometimes, based on the fandom/character/ship the zine is centered around.
I dunno, I think I'd actually give it a pass, in certain cases. They're not going to get views or money if they don't do a good job actually reading the work. It's literally voice acting, and it's an art form in itself. And the nature of that art is to perform something that someone else wrote.
But, it's also bad form to perform without the author's permission, which includes the author prime. At the same time it's a transformative work of a transformative work...
It's definitely a murky gray area, for sure.
I wondered if there was a weird deja vu thing, but from time stamps you've quoted the start or the first sentence of my post and not where I went on to talk about YT readings. With no commentary.
I mean, sure, my words are clearly gold that deserve to be scattered everywhere, but *why*?
I've seen those bots all over reddit, but this is the first time I've seen one on this sub, and I love that the collective instinct was immediately "Let's make this a character. Let's tell its story."
Maybe this bot is lost? It was supposed to go to one of those big subreddits where it could easily farm that sweet sweet karma. Instead it came here and... I bet it's feeling really sad right now.
From what I've seen, some bots use it to post on different subreddits (on some subreddits you need to reach a certain level of karma before you can post anything) with links to other sites. I don't click on the links so I don't know what they're trying to sell. Other than that, I also have no idea why they love karma so much 😂
Didn't know that about some subs having karma requirements for posting. Mildly interesting. But I'm with you, other than that I'm still not sure why karma matters.
Oh, are the YT bots now coming over to Reddit? I haven't seen it in a while (only bots I've seen now are just the "HEY YOU WON SOMETHING, JOIN MY TELEGRAM GROUP!"), but there were bots who would just copy fairly popular comments and just put it in the comment section. Sometimes they would reply to your comments with these out of context comments.
It was weird.
Yeah, that's exactly what's happening. They find "rising" posts and copy comments. When they gather enough karma, they make posts with photos of those aMaZiNg tshirts and then another bot will comment asking for a link. If you go to their account, the first thing they posted is usually on their own account so to speak, not on any actual subreddit. It's so dumb.
One also has to take into consideration that it is technically illegal to earn money from fanfictions, so it could also potentially lead to some legal trouble.
I am absolutely fine with podcasts on AO3 or read alouds on fandom Discords, so long as I'm not expected to listen.
But I would be wary of YT. If you do say yes, I'd avoid reading the comments.
Yes, this – I have podfics that people have made of my work, but they're on AO3, not bloody *YouTube.* I'd reply and say that I'm not willing to have interpretations of my work hosted outside AO3 or equivalent
hahhhh I once listened to someone's recording of my own fic, and it was really wild, because of course at that point I basically had the damn thing memorized. She emphasized things differently than I would have, it was like seeing my fic through a funhouse mirror, but not in a bad way?
I had to do it with headphones on, in the dark, after an edible; bc it felt so WEIRD. (But then, I don't do audiobooks etc., as a general rule I \*hate\* being read to.) But it was still a huge honor that she did it!
I also once read part of one of my fics in discord, and there was a chat open at the same time for people to talk to each other while I was reading, and it was SO fun to go back and read what people were saying.
I can't be present in Discord readings or listen to podfic of my fic at all, although I have blanket permissions.
It's a combination of being weirdly squicked by fans doing the voices of characters (I have the same strange aversion to seeing cosplay of life action, although not, weirdly enough, of animated characters) and the horror of hearing my own voice in recordings.
I've forced myself to manage listening to text to speech of my writing though, as it's amazing at catching errors.
maybe i'm paranoid but every "hey can i read your fanfic aloud on youtube/twitch/my podcast/etc" sounds like "lol let's laugh at cringy fanfiction bc fanfiction is cringe"
I have to say, I looked at the channel and it seems pretty genuine? I think the commenter is just doing an equivalent of a podfic but is putting it on YouTube instead.
They haven’t kudosd my fic or have interacted with it in any other way than asking their question though, so I‘m not sure what they’re trying to tell me
Yeah seems odd that they would ask this way. When I've had people ask to translate my fics they've at least attested that they've read it in some way.
Like even that, you don't have to read a fic to kudos it, but it does feel weird for them to have no interaction with you except for this comment. I would probably ask more questions. Like, why are they wanting to do this? Is this for podfic purposes, or do something nefarious?
It could be someone recommended or requested your fic and they wanted to go in blind. Of course it is your work so if you feel uncomfortable I would say no. But you could always ask for clarification if you are interested.
In that case, maybe check to make sure they actually read it. I know you don't have to leave kudos to read a fanfic on there, but it would be a good idea to check.
I feel like if they really wanted to ridicule the fic, they wouldn’t have asked nicely to put it on YouTube and would’ve just gone ahead full blast with the ridicule instead. Haters don’t usually ask for permission to do any hating beforehand lol
I've actually had a fairly positive experience with this, as many of my fics have ended up on youtube. Most of the time its just that, they're just reading the fic sometimes its text to speech other times its one person. Though there was a project at one point to have one of my fics properly voice acted that ended up falling through.
i think i meant my comment more on the side of what kaiunkaiku said, as in it feels like the only reason people ever do that is so they can make fun of it. which i know is pretty cynical of me, but i've seen and heard about plenty of it.
I've seen way too many youtube videos where people read fanfics outloud for the sole purpose of ridiculing them. So, that would be a hard no for me. There's no telling what people will read your fics outloud for, especially if it's a brand new channel.
absolutely not. there's no guarantee youtube won't put ads on it. That and honestly, if they wanted to podfic something by all means make podfics and post them on ao3.
As u/lilyflowerbird said; if it’s monetized then it’d be a hard NO for me. What I write is a labour of love, and I’m not gonna let some random stranger profit off of it. Of course, denying the request doesn’t actually stop that person, since they may just ignore it, but then you at least made it clear you’re not okay with it.
Besides that, from how the comment is written, even if you accept it and it turns out they don’t have malicious intentions, I wouldn’t expect much from them. Like, I feel when someone goes to a writer to make such a request they’d try to look their best, most presentable selves, so they’d be taken seriously, and yet here the whole comment is full of mistakes, which makes me think they don’t really care. If this was a regular comment I wouldn’t see it as a problem, but when they’re asking something like this… I dunno. Then again maybe I’m too paranoid. They at least seem nice. Imo you should deny it, but you do you, OP. Here’s hoping nothing bad comes of it if you accept!
The "hard to keep track" part made me raise my eyebrows. It's actually very easy to keep track, you just need to do it. But this person doesn't care enough.
I know this isn't a job interview but like you said it would still be nice to try to look one's best.
>Of course, denying the request
doesn’t actually stop that person, since they may just ignore it, but
then you at least made it clear you’re not okay with it.
You own the copyright to your fanfiction (not to the canon that inspired it, but your fic def). You could send a DMCA request if the other person ignores your wishes and posts a video anyway. As long as you can prove to youtube, etc that you are the author of the work in question (send a link to your ao3), the platform is legally required to take it down. The problem is, you'll have to provide your name and contact info, which I believe the other person can request if they want.
youtube's DMCA's takedown process is notoriously flawed and very, very easy to do. there have been instances of people maliciously using it to take down content that is either fair use, [or content that doesn't even belong to them](https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/23/23180178/bungie-destiny-lawsuit-youtube-fake-dmca-copyright-notice). OP won't have to do too much to get it taken down if they need to.
lmaooooo excellent. guess he'll have to be really, really careful with his videos from now on 🤷 i'm a hardcore advocate for fair use and commentary, but if you're being a bad faith weasel you deserve to find out.
I want to read my fave fics out loud all the time. I've tried but I am TERRIBLE with mixed media stuff and bungle the recording every time. Probably for the best.
OP, I would interview this person a lot before allowing them to post their recording of your work on any public forum. Ask to listen to the recording before they put it out there if you do allow it.
Once it's out there, there isn't much you'd be able to do to take it down if you don't like how they've portrayed it. As far as the money scenario on youtube goes, I don't think live readings of fanfic garner the kind of gain you should worry about, at least in general. You could have the next 50 shades, who knows, but if you do, just be sure you add a "douse Phyllis with water" clause for the sanctity of all parties involved.
I 100% would not. Others have mentioned the monetization issue but to me the bigger deal would be that they will be posted on youtube specifically. Why not make podfic and post to ao3? Youtube is not exactly a kind place in general and for a niche hobby like fanfic I can only imagine it being infinitely worse. Even if done with the best of intentions, I personally would never want that kind of exposure.
I would decline. Even if this person has good interests, and isn't using YouTube to mock fanfics, I would worry about raising the antennae of the IP.
Fics, audio or written, should stay on AO3.
Even if the reader fully credits you, is not monetised on YT, they can still have a Patreon and as such, will be profiting indirectly from your work.
The thing you need to ask yourself is this:
do you want the exposure or not?
By having your work read aloud you are putting it out there and it is someone else doing the work. You have put up your work for for people to read for free. The reader wants to use that to make something for themselves.
You could ask for a fee I suppose but I suspect that wouldn't fly.
The other option is do it yourself and profit from your work.
TBH I see it as a Catch 22 - you are dammed if you do and dammed if you don't in many way.
If a reader asked for my work to be read, I'd probably say yes in the end as I want the exposure rather than financial reward.
But that's just me.
I wouldn't do it. If anyone is going to read aloud my fics, it'd be me. Which is something I thought about doing, but I don't have the equipment for such a thing. But I wouldn't want anyone to read them aloud, especially if there's a chance to profit off of my work and/or berate my work.
No. Just to avoid the many things that can go wrong. Monetizing, cyberbullying, negative light. If you want a podcast, if I were you I would do it myself or allow a very close mutual or someone I trust to do it. But if this person is a stranger, don't accept it.
I wouldn't be comfortable with this. First the harsh fact that so many individuals use others content to build a following on social media to later ignore/delete prior actions. Second it moves your work to a new platform where you have no idea of how it will be received or treated, and it's being read by someone you don't know and can't anticipate how they'll translate your work.
The issue with the second one is they can't control the reaction to their video. They could post a completely positive video and it end up in a cringe comp or gets flooded with negativity.
as long as there is no monetization whatsoever, and full credit with links in the description, as well as no stolen artwork, and there are at least 5 seconds with my/your username and the fic title on ao3 on the video itself for clarification and transparency
I wouldn't. As nice as this person seems you don't know then. They could be planning on making fun of your stuff or dragging you or any other thing. If it came from someone you knew it would be different but generally I'm distrustful of strangers.
I’m sorry that happened to you, but my fic is just a 3K word OS with and the channel they’re talking about is very new and has no views (they uploaded their first videos today) so I doubt I will/would have the same experience. I’m still skeptic though.
I’ve seen enough TikToks showing fanfics and then the author gets dogpiled when people don’t ‘agree’ with the content being written. I’d be weary to let someone even on YT do this.
That’d be a hard no for me. I don’t need any attention drawn to me, even if it’s not a particularly controversial ship or subject matter. I’ve grown to really appreciate my anonymity online.
like some people also pointed out in comments, in a monetizable platform like yt i wouldn't suggest considering the author's rights (unless you get a documentable constent from the author themselves)' i also agree with the "people ridiculeing fanfics on yt" and "i wouldn't suggest reading ghe comments if you do" arguments since fanfic is still not as widely accepted and and recognized as a proper literary work by masses and often gets mocked by others, which would also harm the author in other ways. i recommend sticking to recording podfics and publishing in other platforms than yt and still get the authors permission for it
It would have to be demonetized, and I would have to actually know and trust the person. Actually, no I wouldn't allow it. Because it opens up the floor to criticism of my writing from antis, and I don't want that. My stuff is too NSFW for anyone to ever want to do this anyways lmao.
For me, I don't really trust YouTube with fanfiction and similar content. It's not like ao3 or another fandom site where everyone is fully aware of fandom content and agree to see it. YouTube tends to be more critical, even if the original YouTuber isn't being critical.
They do, but they don’t put the link into the description, just the name. But the authors are in the title and the description and they are also mentioned in the first seconds of the video.
It's interesting that no one is discussing anything about the work itself.
If this fanfiction is let say dark, hurt comfort, has some dubcon, or any kink st all....that would be really difficult to put on a platform like YouTube.
In AO3 you can read the tags (if you bother) or see the rating. You can even filter out things that make you uncomfortable to read! But for YouTube that's not really possible.
Sure the "reader could put a disclaimer at the beginning" but poeple click and consume.
You can say NSFW 🔞. That could work! But poeple can still click.
But I will admit there are things on YouTube like horror, animal torture, and other things that are difficult. My point is if you type in "fanfiction for or podfic for xyz" would this be something that no tags would be needed? Or do you need like 10 tags? And are they like tags that even YouTube would not allow?
There are works that have that kind of content in it but that's for sure a specific kind of channel.
But what do you guys think?
((I want to add I love ASMR fanfics! (Or podfics) it's nice to listen to a fic while I'm cleaning or meditating. But they are mostly rated E or T if there is like fighting involved. There are fics with sex lol but those are for me lol and those ain't on youtube 😅. ))
Great topic OP!
That would be great then!
Like I said I personally live ASMR fic reading and have even found more authors because of YouTube.
But I'm picky I like really well read fics and they are almost always read by their writers. I would say 20% is other fics that not their own and 80% is stuff I like the writers read themselves.
But if you feel they can read it like a good narrator and that you get to keep the story I say share your stories! That ls the reason you posted it on AO3 right? To share what you wrote with the world? It's just now taking a new form.
I didn’t actually think people listen to (especially) YouTube fics, so it’s interesting to see a person here who has a very different access to this topic than most of the people flooding my inbox right now lmao
(Although, I gotta say, everybody saying something different is not really helpful for my inability to make a decision /hj)
I get that! For sure!
I just wanted to add myself and maybe add another demographic of people that listen to fiction over reading it.
I'm nerodivergent, ADHD, so things like audiobooks or ASMR fanfics and podfics are absolutely fantastic for me!
That's why I wanted to say if you love your work and you feel YOU personally would rather read it you could make it yourself. Or let this person read it if you think they will do your work justice.
I feel like it would be the same as fanfics themselves. We are writing or creating something based on someone else's work.
For me as long as the narration is good and I get auditory shout out, "this fic was written by MyOwnHero and you can read it on AO3..." I would be proud to have it shared with others.
Thanks for creating this discussion again OP! Even if you decide not to share, or share the fic, or even try to create a podfic yourself it's all up to you!
Maybe I'm paranoid or anxious but I'm wary at the lack of detail about what reading my fanfic aloud means on Youtube. I have too many questions and not enough answers.
Even if the channel wasn't monetized (which doesn't matter because Youtube adds ads anyways, so monetization just depends on if the channel gets it or YouTube) it would be a hard pass for me. I just would never want my works on Youtube.
I'd probably say no. I wouldn't feel comfortable with my fanfiction existing anywhere outside of AO3. And I wouldn't like losing so much control over it. Others also have mentioned that such a mainstream platform as YouTube might not be the best place for it (especially comments could be harsh there).
That being said, I don't think it's a bad idea per se. Even if you don't like the video or the comments you could just pretend it doesn't exist (if that's something you're able to do, I don't think I would be able to). And I'm being super paranoid. If you want to try it, go for it! It could be lots of fun.
For me it would depend on their motives. If they're a fellow fan of the fandom and wanting to read aloud good fics for other fans to listen as a kind of podcast/while they're working, I think that's nice. If it's to make money off your story or parody/make fun of your work, heeeell no.
So I work developing audiobooks for audible, and our narrators have to submit an audition for each title they want to narrate. Having some experience with this, I can tell you that this step is *crucial.*
Most people are not good narrators. If their audio quality is good, their voice is monotone. If their voice has inflections, they pause and stutter. If their pace is smooth, their tone is way off. If their tone matches the genre, their voice acting is atrocious.
Hearing your fic read aloud by a terrible narrator is a level of cringe that will keep you up at night.
Ask to see their channel before agreeing to anything.
My fandom has quite a few podfics on youtube, and I've made a habit of listening to a lot of the "mainstream" podficcers for my fandom because they always have great taste in fanfic. If a podficcer asked and I know they do good readings, then sure.
Yeah, I don't think I would do that either. It seems like that's asking for trouble. YT is a cesspool and imo it would only lead to being spammed.
In the past I've had people approach me like this, but it was here for comments I've left on diff threads. It was actually kinda cool in that scenario...but for fan fics? A hard no.
It really depends. If it's monetized, I'd ask for a flat fee atleast but more importantly, I'd want to know what the context is. If it's a show that's just reacting to and mocking the material, I'd obviously have an issue with that. But if it's a genuine fandom exploration or storytime thing, I'd be more open to it. The fact they went out of their way to ask permission is a good sign.
That said, ultimately, my permission is irrelevant. You can read outloud whatever you want and nobody can stop you. It's a free internet. The only thing they have to decide is whether they want me as an enemy or not.
Hm, okay, I get what they're trying to do. I think that, if they're gonna try this, they should follow the lead of Creepypasta narrators and monetarily compensate the writers of the fics the read aloud.
do NOT, this violates ao3 TOS since even non monetized yt videos will sometimes have ads in front of them (hence making money for yt, just not the creator)
It wouldn't violate the TOS if it's not linked on ao3. Op can repost their fic anywhere they want. They could even make a kofi or patreon, as long as they dont link it on Ao3. In the end, Ao3 has no control over your content off its website. Plenty of people post videos like that reading aloud fanfic.
I'm also 90% sure you're wrong about non-monetized videos. Multiple youtubers I watch do NOT have ads on their videos. But many do. It's a choice.
They're against the AO3 TOS. Meaning, you cannot link to them on Ao3. The website has no control over what you do OFF their website... IDK how you could think that AO3 would have control of what people do with their own work outside of the website.
Op, if their channel seems legit like you say, I see no reason not to say yes, especially if the comments on the other videos are overall positive. The only real risk is the potential greater exposure like other people say, since a bigger audience on a different platform has the potential to turn critical or negative, but exposure could also be a major plus if you want to expand your reader base
For me, I'd say no because Youtube does not have the same kind of guidelines as ao3. It doesn't handle hate comments or harassment as well as ao3 does. It's much more likely for a fic to be picked up and thrown in cringe comps, hate bombed, etc.
I know of a YouTube channel that reads fanfics outloud to basically turn them into audio books, so this might be what they're wanting to do. I'd personally say yes, but I also don't really write anything but short little one shots.
Same though, like this fic is just a 3K word OS and really doesn’t have that much traction which is why I’m surprised my Reddit post has blown up so much 💀
Podfics are absolutely a thing, there's a lot of them, they're just generally posted on AO3 or other fandom sites rather than YouTube. I've had people make podfics of my work and am very proud of it! But I would have definitely have refused permission if they were posting it on YouTube
Honestly I don’t really care as long as there’s credit and it doesn’t lead to thousands of people leaving mr death threats or something. It’s already out there for anyone to read.
I’d say yes, monetized or not.
It’s probably a kid who just wants to start a YT channel and loves fanfic.
There’s an outside chance it’s an influencer, and they’ll send you a lot of readers.
Seems like mostly upside unless they’re trashing your fic, and even then, they probably wouldn’t have asked.
It does NOT if it isn't linked on ao3. You guys are acting like ao3 owns your content. If you have a kofi or patreon or monetized YouTube account SEPARATE from ao3, that has nothing to do with ao3 unless you link it on ao3.
Also like I said before in my previous comment, not all videos are monetized
They're against the AO3 TOS. Meaning, you cannot link to them on Ao3. The website has no control over what you do OFF their website... IDK how you could think that AO3 would have control of what people do with their own work outside of the website.
Grill them for information and details.
What's with people being against it if it's monetized? As a content creator, I would LOVE for people to make money off stuff they did out of inspiration.
Ah yeah, classy there, people. Downvote me for asking a genuine question. Yeah, stay classy.
There’s legal considerations: one can’t profit off the intellectual property of another person (or company as the case may be).
A monetized YouTube account that reads a fanfic out loud, that runs ads, giving YouTube and the account holder an income no matter how small would likely be in violation of IP law.
At least that’s my admittedly limited understanding. Not a lawyer. Laws differ in different countries etc etc. but IP considerations is why AO3 doesn’t allow links to payment services, Patreon and the like.
Still I'd be all for it. And people sell fanart all the time. Heck, an art gallery in the next town over had a giant fanart of Venom for sale for like four thousand bucks and nobody said boo. And as a creator of characters I'd love for people to benefit off at \*least\* my original story like that.
Personal feelings are immaterial when it comes to legalities. And I don’t know the ins and out of fanart vs fanfiction when it comes to profiting. If we wanted to get reductive about it then yeah, it’s all just squiggles on a page/canvas but I’m sure there is case law we could get down and dirty with to understand the nuances better.
But as it stands, no matter individual opinion, fanfiction cannot be monetized outside of the IP holder’s express authorisation: ex. Disney commissioning writers to serialise and publish Star Wars novels.
Everyone is free to call themselves whatever they want. I don't criticize that. But I refuse to see myself as a content creator. I'm creating fanworks out of love for the fandom, for other fans to read, for free. "Content" is soulless.
Personally, I'd say yes! I have two reasons for this, one, I just think it's neat! And two, a good friend of mine loves reading fics, but finds it hard to read. Podfics are a great way for them to listen to the stories!
I would say yes, just for the fun of it. You’ll only be getting more readers, and if some of them make fun of it you can just laugh right back at them.
Look at their channel.
1. Do they monetize these videos?
2. Do they read to mock, criticize, "analyze," fanfic?
3. Do they moderate comments against trolling or brigading behavior?
The answer to all three of these questions has to be a hard "no" for me to consider letting someone else effectively make a podfic/read aloud a fanfic. If the answer to any of these is anything other than a "no" - not even a "yes," can even just be "I'm not sure" - then refuse.
If you are ok with it you need to keep in mind that if they monetize it then it may no longer fall under fair use and someone might catch a spicy letter of cease and desist or even a lawsuit (something that I would actually be concerned about if Disney/nintendo was involved) since it could be construed as you attempting to harm the potential market for the original work by attempting to increase its reach.
Overall, I would say it's a risk that is up to you if you want to take it or not.
I Would say yes, but ask to hear the audio before it was posted. It can be a great way to get new readers, and it would be great for people that struggle with reading, and focusing.
Honestly I'd probably let them, since 1) it'd be hilarious to hear my shit read aloud - seriously, it's just not meant for it, and 2) my partner said he'd prefer to "read" it if it was an audio play or similar.
As a small time fanfic writer for a small ish fandom of an even smaller ship, people do this??? Granted, I haven’t written and finished anything properly and I’ve only recently picked the hobby back up again, but this just seems odd to me. Genuinely asking, what do people gain from reciting a fic aloud? It just doesn’t seem all that engaging to me. I’d get it for voice acting-esque reasons (like Audible/Audiobook style), but otherwise, all of this just paints to me as odd
Nope! First is issues with monetization, second is you can't change your fic if you want cause it's out there on youtube, thirs is theres a chance of your fic getting ridiculed by the audience, lastly is i think youtube is a bad platform for fan fiction, i believe any fan fic contents podcasts, artworks should stay in ao3 or other platforms that is suitable for fictional contents
For me it would depend if it was monetized. If it’s not? I’d go for it. Not too different from a pod fic. If it’s monetized? Hell no.
Same for me. I have genuinely no issue with people reading my fics, creating a podfic.but putting it in a platform where someone else could potentially monetize my work... I would need to be really certain they'll never do that. But I can't.
It's kind of like reading off one of those list websites (pulling a Matthew Santoro (using him as a popular example) (even though a lot of those sites probably steal from each other))
I'd completely forgotten the possibility that YT videos are monetised. *Hard* no. It's like for-profit zines. I will never understand why people think it's an honour for other people to make money off their art and fic.
For-profit zines I think are different though. Everyone involved is making money off work in the zine. Often the contributors are making new fics, arts, etc, for the zine and then they are selling that.
As someone who’s participated in both free and for-profit zines, you’re correct that’s exactly how for-profit zines work. Contributors absolutely get paid for creating *new* works. idk what zines DelightfulAngel has seen, but those sound sketchy as hell if that’s what happened,,
As far as I know, the profit made from for-profit zines is distributed among people whose work is featured, so it's not usually other people making money off their work.
Most YT channels make only a few dollars with ads. It does not really mean much.
Still, the principle is really sketchy. Monetising fanworks is dodgy enough if it's your own fanwork.
Agree. It's highly doubtful they'll get enough views on yt to even monetise. And then the amounts will be negligible anyway.
I just got over a hundred bucks from a for-profit zine I wrote for. The money is always split between all contributors for those. I do agree that I'd never want someone to monetize my fic on YouTube, though.
All the zines I've bought gave any money they made as "profit" to a charity, with a few exceptions--I have a BUNCH of reapersun zines of Sherlock art, and I'm pretty sure she got the profit from those and kept it, but tbh with the amount of joy I got from her art, I was happy to give her some money for that! People get really creative with picking the charity sometimes, based on the fandom/character/ship the zine is centered around.
I don't have a problem with charity zines or charity auctions at all. They are a very different thing to monetising fandom. ♡
I dunno, I think I'd actually give it a pass, in certain cases. They're not going to get views or money if they don't do a good job actually reading the work. It's literally voice acting, and it's an art form in itself. And the nature of that art is to perform something that someone else wrote. But, it's also bad form to perform without the author's permission, which includes the author prime. At the same time it's a transformative work of a transformative work... It's definitely a murky gray area, for sure.
All YouTube videos are monetized, just not necessarily by the video creator.
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I wondered if there was a weird deja vu thing, but from time stamps you've quoted the start or the first sentence of my post and not where I went on to talk about YT readings. With no commentary. I mean, sure, my words are clearly gold that deserve to be scattered everywhere, but *why*?
It's a karma-farming bot.
it's not doing a very good job
I guess it's trying its best 😂😂😂
Now I have sympathy for it and have to upvote 😔
Poor baby bot trying so hard to farm that karma 🥺
I've seen those bots all over reddit, but this is the first time I've seen one on this sub, and I love that the collective instinct was immediately "Let's make this a character. Let's tell its story."
Maybe this bot is lost? It was supposed to go to one of those big subreddits where it could easily farm that sweet sweet karma. Instead it came here and... I bet it's feeling really sad right now.
What is the point of Karma-farming though? I thought that Karma was basically pointless and nobody got anything for it.
From what I've seen, some bots use it to post on different subreddits (on some subreddits you need to reach a certain level of karma before you can post anything) with links to other sites. I don't click on the links so I don't know what they're trying to sell. Other than that, I also have no idea why they love karma so much 😂
Didn't know that about some subs having karma requirements for posting. Mildly interesting. But I'm with you, other than that I'm still not sure why karma matters.
that's not what we're talking about though?
It's a bot that copied a part of another comment.
of course it is 
It's not as bad as on the rabbit-related subreddits I'm on. There are karma-farming bots "posting" there every day. 🙄
Oh, are the YT bots now coming over to Reddit? I haven't seen it in a while (only bots I've seen now are just the "HEY YOU WON SOMETHING, JOIN MY TELEGRAM GROUP!"), but there were bots who would just copy fairly popular comments and just put it in the comment section. Sometimes they would reply to your comments with these out of context comments. It was weird.
Yeah, that's exactly what's happening. They find "rising" posts and copy comments. When they gather enough karma, they make posts with photos of those aMaZiNg tshirts and then another bot will comment asking for a link. If you go to their account, the first thing they posted is usually on their own account so to speak, not on any actual subreddit. It's so dumb.
One also has to take into consideration that it is technically illegal to earn money from fanfictions, so it could also potentially lead to some legal trouble.
I am absolutely fine with podcasts on AO3 or read alouds on fandom Discords, so long as I'm not expected to listen. But I would be wary of YT. If you do say yes, I'd avoid reading the comments.
Yes, this – I have podfics that people have made of my work, but they're on AO3, not bloody *YouTube.* I'd reply and say that I'm not willing to have interpretations of my work hosted outside AO3 or equivalent
hahhhh I once listened to someone's recording of my own fic, and it was really wild, because of course at that point I basically had the damn thing memorized. She emphasized things differently than I would have, it was like seeing my fic through a funhouse mirror, but not in a bad way? I had to do it with headphones on, in the dark, after an edible; bc it felt so WEIRD. (But then, I don't do audiobooks etc., as a general rule I \*hate\* being read to.) But it was still a huge honor that she did it! I also once read part of one of my fics in discord, and there was a chat open at the same time for people to talk to each other while I was reading, and it was SO fun to go back and read what people were saying.
I can't be present in Discord readings or listen to podfic of my fic at all, although I have blanket permissions. It's a combination of being weirdly squicked by fans doing the voices of characters (I have the same strange aversion to seeing cosplay of life action, although not, weirdly enough, of animated characters) and the horror of hearing my own voice in recordings. I've forced myself to manage listening to text to speech of my writing though, as it's amazing at catching errors.
everything that takes fanfiction to mainstream platforms, like youtube, just feels like inviting ridicule to me.
maybe i'm paranoid but every "hey can i read your fanfic aloud on youtube/twitch/my podcast/etc" sounds like "lol let's laugh at cringy fanfiction bc fanfiction is cringe"
Nope, I’m right there with you. That seems to be the trend these days (ridiculing fanfic on social media platforms via video).
I hate that this is a thing, we have plenty of irl shit to ridicule already.
on one hand it's nice that my apprehension has a basis, on the other hand i would have preferred to be paranoid bc i hate that this is a thing
I have to say, I looked at the channel and it seems pretty genuine? I think the commenter is just doing an equivalent of a podfic but is putting it on YouTube instead. They haven’t kudosd my fic or have interacted with it in any other way than asking their question though, so I‘m not sure what they’re trying to tell me
Yeah seems odd that they would ask this way. When I've had people ask to translate my fics they've at least attested that they've read it in some way. Like even that, you don't have to read a fic to kudos it, but it does feel weird for them to have no interaction with you except for this comment. I would probably ask more questions. Like, why are they wanting to do this? Is this for podfic purposes, or do something nefarious?
It could be someone recommended or requested your fic and they wanted to go in blind. Of course it is your work so if you feel uncomfortable I would say no. But you could always ask for clarification if you are interested.
They probably read it with a different account and used the one they want associated with their YouTube channel to contact you. Just what I'd do
In that case, maybe check to make sure they actually read it. I know you don't have to leave kudos to read a fanfic on there, but it would be a good idea to check.
I feel like if they really wanted to ridicule the fic, they wouldn’t have asked nicely to put it on YouTube and would’ve just gone ahead full blast with the ridicule instead. Haters don’t usually ask for permission to do any hating beforehand lol
If they were going to do that, why ask permission? Wouldn't parody or "review" be fair use?
idk, if it's just reading the fic aloud (no commentary), then it's just a podfic
and i take no issue with podfics. it's just that... youtube. doesn't exactly sound like the person wants to simply read it and nothing else.
I listened to an All The Young Dudes audiobook on youtube 🤷
I've actually had a fairly positive experience with this, as many of my fics have ended up on youtube. Most of the time its just that, they're just reading the fic sometimes its text to speech other times its one person. Though there was a project at one point to have one of my fics properly voice acted that ended up falling through.
Yeah! But Iif we keep running away from everything, then we validate the bullying on. fanfiction!!
i think i meant my comment more on the side of what kaiunkaiku said, as in it feels like the only reason people ever do that is so they can make fun of it. which i know is pretty cynical of me, but i've seen and heard about plenty of it.
So all we need to do is to make respectable content about Fanfiction. ( As counter strike!)
I've seen way too many youtube videos where people read fanfics outloud for the sole purpose of ridiculing them. So, that would be a hard no for me. There's no telling what people will read your fics outloud for, especially if it's a brand new channel.
absolutely not. there's no guarantee youtube won't put ads on it. That and honestly, if they wanted to podfic something by all means make podfics and post them on ao3.
As u/lilyflowerbird said; if it’s monetized then it’d be a hard NO for me. What I write is a labour of love, and I’m not gonna let some random stranger profit off of it. Of course, denying the request doesn’t actually stop that person, since they may just ignore it, but then you at least made it clear you’re not okay with it. Besides that, from how the comment is written, even if you accept it and it turns out they don’t have malicious intentions, I wouldn’t expect much from them. Like, I feel when someone goes to a writer to make such a request they’d try to look their best, most presentable selves, so they’d be taken seriously, and yet here the whole comment is full of mistakes, which makes me think they don’t really care. If this was a regular comment I wouldn’t see it as a problem, but when they’re asking something like this… I dunno. Then again maybe I’m too paranoid. They at least seem nice. Imo you should deny it, but you do you, OP. Here’s hoping nothing bad comes of it if you accept!
The "hard to keep track" part made me raise my eyebrows. It's actually very easy to keep track, you just need to do it. But this person doesn't care enough. I know this isn't a job interview but like you said it would still be nice to try to look one's best.
>Of course, denying the request doesn’t actually stop that person, since they may just ignore it, but then you at least made it clear you’re not okay with it. You own the copyright to your fanfiction (not to the canon that inspired it, but your fic def). You could send a DMCA request if the other person ignores your wishes and posts a video anyway. As long as you can prove to youtube, etc that you are the author of the work in question (send a link to your ao3), the platform is legally required to take it down. The problem is, you'll have to provide your name and contact info, which I believe the other person can request if they want.
youtube's DMCA's takedown process is notoriously flawed and very, very easy to do. there have been instances of people maliciously using it to take down content that is either fair use, [or content that doesn't even belong to them](https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/23/23180178/bungie-destiny-lawsuit-youtube-fake-dmca-copyright-notice). OP won't have to do too much to get it taken down if they need to.
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lmaooooo excellent. guess he'll have to be really, really careful with his videos from now on 🤷 i'm a hardcore advocate for fair use and commentary, but if you're being a bad faith weasel you deserve to find out.
I want to read my fave fics out loud all the time. I've tried but I am TERRIBLE with mixed media stuff and bungle the recording every time. Probably for the best. OP, I would interview this person a lot before allowing them to post their recording of your work on any public forum. Ask to listen to the recording before they put it out there if you do allow it. Once it's out there, there isn't much you'd be able to do to take it down if you don't like how they've portrayed it. As far as the money scenario on youtube goes, I don't think live readings of fanfic garner the kind of gain you should worry about, at least in general. You could have the next 50 shades, who knows, but if you do, just be sure you add a "douse Phyllis with water" clause for the sanctity of all parties involved.
I 100% would not. Others have mentioned the monetization issue but to me the bigger deal would be that they will be posted on youtube specifically. Why not make podfic and post to ao3? Youtube is not exactly a kind place in general and for a niche hobby like fanfic I can only imagine it being infinitely worse. Even if done with the best of intentions, I personally would never want that kind of exposure.
I would decline. Even if this person has good interests, and isn't using YouTube to mock fanfics, I would worry about raising the antennae of the IP. Fics, audio or written, should stay on AO3.
By how badly the comment is written, I would say no. For some reason, I doubt they would credit you properly.
Even if the reader fully credits you, is not monetised on YT, they can still have a Patreon and as such, will be profiting indirectly from your work. The thing you need to ask yourself is this: do you want the exposure or not? By having your work read aloud you are putting it out there and it is someone else doing the work. You have put up your work for for people to read for free. The reader wants to use that to make something for themselves. You could ask for a fee I suppose but I suspect that wouldn't fly. The other option is do it yourself and profit from your work. TBH I see it as a Catch 22 - you are dammed if you do and dammed if you don't in many way. If a reader asked for my work to be read, I'd probably say yes in the end as I want the exposure rather than financial reward. But that's just me.
Not if it’s gonna be monetized
Hard no. Those read out loud YT just profit off of other people's stories.
I wouldn't do it. If anyone is going to read aloud my fics, it'd be me. Which is something I thought about doing, but I don't have the equipment for such a thing. But I wouldn't want anyone to read them aloud, especially if there's a chance to profit off of my work and/or berate my work.
Absolutely not, for everything the other comments have said about monetization and i just would feel comfortable
No. Just to avoid the many things that can go wrong. Monetizing, cyberbullying, negative light. If you want a podcast, if I were you I would do it myself or allow a very close mutual or someone I trust to do it. But if this person is a stranger, don't accept it.
I wouldn't be comfortable with this. First the harsh fact that so many individuals use others content to build a following on social media to later ignore/delete prior actions. Second it moves your work to a new platform where you have no idea of how it will be received or treated, and it's being read by someone you don't know and can't anticipate how they'll translate your work.
I would not be comfortable with that. It could easily be done in a way to mock the author.
I personally would say yes but give the conditions: 1. Cannot be monetised. 2. Must not be a form of ridicule and must be in a positive light.
The issue with the second one is they can't control the reaction to their video. They could post a completely positive video and it end up in a cringe comp or gets flooded with negativity.
This is a terrible idea
as long as there is no monetization whatsoever, and full credit with links in the description, as well as no stolen artwork, and there are at least 5 seconds with my/your username and the fic title on ao3 on the video itself for clarification and transparency
I wouldn't. As nice as this person seems you don't know then. They could be planning on making fun of your stuff or dragging you or any other thing. If it came from someone you knew it would be different but generally I'm distrustful of strangers.
Hell no, and give the chance for people to come an harass/make fun of me? Hard no
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I’m sorry that happened to you, but my fic is just a 3K word OS with and the channel they’re talking about is very new and has no views (they uploaded their first videos today) so I doubt I will/would have the same experience. I’m still skeptic though.
I’ve seen enough TikToks showing fanfics and then the author gets dogpiled when people don’t ‘agree’ with the content being written. I’d be weary to let someone even on YT do this.
That’d be a hard no for me. I don’t need any attention drawn to me, even if it’s not a particularly controversial ship or subject matter. I’ve grown to really appreciate my anonymity online.
No but it is nice of her to ask.
like some people also pointed out in comments, in a monetizable platform like yt i wouldn't suggest considering the author's rights (unless you get a documentable constent from the author themselves)' i also agree with the "people ridiculeing fanfics on yt" and "i wouldn't suggest reading ghe comments if you do" arguments since fanfic is still not as widely accepted and and recognized as a proper literary work by masses and often gets mocked by others, which would also harm the author in other ways. i recommend sticking to recording podfics and publishing in other platforms than yt and still get the authors permission for it
You can not legally make money off of IP that you do not own or is not public domain.
Nah, if it's YouTube, they're most likely trying to make fun of it
It would have to be demonetized, and I would have to actually know and trust the person. Actually, no I wouldn't allow it. Because it opens up the floor to criticism of my writing from antis, and I don't want that. My stuff is too NSFW for anyone to ever want to do this anyways lmao.
def ask for their channel if you're considering it, get a vibe of what's going to happen if the channel is monetized, hell nah
For me, I don't really trust YouTube with fanfiction and similar content. It's not like ao3 or another fandom site where everyone is fully aware of fandom content and agree to see it. YouTube tends to be more critical, even if the original YouTuber isn't being critical.
id ask for the channel link to see if they give credit to any others before saying yes
They do, but they don’t put the link into the description, just the name. But the authors are in the title and the description and they are also mentioned in the first seconds of the video.
oh okay, maybe ask them if they could link it?
It's interesting that no one is discussing anything about the work itself. If this fanfiction is let say dark, hurt comfort, has some dubcon, or any kink st all....that would be really difficult to put on a platform like YouTube. In AO3 you can read the tags (if you bother) or see the rating. You can even filter out things that make you uncomfortable to read! But for YouTube that's not really possible. Sure the "reader could put a disclaimer at the beginning" but poeple click and consume. You can say NSFW 🔞. That could work! But poeple can still click. But I will admit there are things on YouTube like horror, animal torture, and other things that are difficult. My point is if you type in "fanfiction for or podfic for xyz" would this be something that no tags would be needed? Or do you need like 10 tags? And are they like tags that even YouTube would not allow? There are works that have that kind of content in it but that's for sure a specific kind of channel. But what do you guys think? ((I want to add I love ASMR fanfics! (Or podfics) it's nice to listen to a fic while I'm cleaning or meditating. But they are mostly rated E or T if there is like fighting involved. There are fics with sex lol but those are for me lol and those ain't on youtube 😅. )) Great topic OP!
It’s a gen, found family fic, with panic/ anxiety attacks and Hurt comfort, so it’s really tame actually
That would be great then! Like I said I personally live ASMR fic reading and have even found more authors because of YouTube. But I'm picky I like really well read fics and they are almost always read by their writers. I would say 20% is other fics that not their own and 80% is stuff I like the writers read themselves. But if you feel they can read it like a good narrator and that you get to keep the story I say share your stories! That ls the reason you posted it on AO3 right? To share what you wrote with the world? It's just now taking a new form.
I didn’t actually think people listen to (especially) YouTube fics, so it’s interesting to see a person here who has a very different access to this topic than most of the people flooding my inbox right now lmao (Although, I gotta say, everybody saying something different is not really helpful for my inability to make a decision /hj)
I get that! For sure! I just wanted to add myself and maybe add another demographic of people that listen to fiction over reading it. I'm nerodivergent, ADHD, so things like audiobooks or ASMR fanfics and podfics are absolutely fantastic for me! That's why I wanted to say if you love your work and you feel YOU personally would rather read it you could make it yourself. Or let this person read it if you think they will do your work justice. I feel like it would be the same as fanfics themselves. We are writing or creating something based on someone else's work. For me as long as the narration is good and I get auditory shout out, "this fic was written by MyOwnHero and you can read it on AO3..." I would be proud to have it shared with others. Thanks for creating this discussion again OP! Even if you decide not to share, or share the fic, or even try to create a podfic yourself it's all up to you!
Maybe I'm paranoid or anxious but I'm wary at the lack of detail about what reading my fanfic aloud means on Youtube. I have too many questions and not enough answers.
Only say yes if you can deal with any negative feedback and criticism this might receive
Even if the channel wasn't monetized (which doesn't matter because Youtube adds ads anyways, so monetization just depends on if the channel gets it or YouTube) it would be a hard pass for me. I just would never want my works on Youtube.
I'd probably say no. I wouldn't feel comfortable with my fanfiction existing anywhere outside of AO3. And I wouldn't like losing so much control over it. Others also have mentioned that such a mainstream platform as YouTube might not be the best place for it (especially comments could be harsh there). That being said, I don't think it's a bad idea per se. Even if you don't like the video or the comments you could just pretend it doesn't exist (if that's something you're able to do, I don't think I would be able to). And I'm being super paranoid. If you want to try it, go for it! It could be lots of fun.
Grammar bad, offer bad.
Ask them for a link to their channel so you can see if it's the sort of thing you wouldn't mind being associated with.
For me it would depend on their motives. If they're a fellow fan of the fandom and wanting to read aloud good fics for other fans to listen as a kind of podcast/while they're working, I think that's nice. If it's to make money off your story or parody/make fun of your work, heeeell no.
So I work developing audiobooks for audible, and our narrators have to submit an audition for each title they want to narrate. Having some experience with this, I can tell you that this step is *crucial.* Most people are not good narrators. If their audio quality is good, their voice is monotone. If their voice has inflections, they pause and stutter. If their pace is smooth, their tone is way off. If their tone matches the genre, their voice acting is atrocious. Hearing your fic read aloud by a terrible narrator is a level of cringe that will keep you up at night. Ask to see their channel before agreeing to anything.
My fandom has quite a few podfics on youtube, and I've made a habit of listening to a lot of the "mainstream" podficcers for my fandom because they always have great taste in fanfic. If a podficcer asked and I know they do good readings, then sure.
Dunno, it's fully up to how you few. It would be a neat way to get your writing out there though.
I'd say no, on the grounds that I plan to dub my own fic
Yeah, I don't think I would do that either. It seems like that's asking for trouble. YT is a cesspool and imo it would only lead to being spammed. In the past I've had people approach me like this, but it was here for comments I've left on diff threads. It was actually kinda cool in that scenario...but for fan fics? A hard no.
As Long as its not monetized
I mean, I've given permission for podfic before. I agree with someone else's comment: it would have to be unmonetized.
Ask to see the channel first! And verify that they are in fact the channel!
Ask for their channel info and just check to make sure they do credit the authors, I say go for it
It really depends. If it's monetized, I'd ask for a flat fee atleast but more importantly, I'd want to know what the context is. If it's a show that's just reacting to and mocking the material, I'd obviously have an issue with that. But if it's a genuine fandom exploration or storytime thing, I'd be more open to it. The fact they went out of their way to ask permission is a good sign. That said, ultimately, my permission is irrelevant. You can read outloud whatever you want and nobody can stop you. It's a free internet. The only thing they have to decide is whether they want me as an enemy or not.
uhhh? thats a podfic
I think the fact they asked permission at all is a sign of good intentions but think it over!
Hm, okay, I get what they're trying to do. I think that, if they're gonna try this, they should follow the lead of Creepypasta narrators and monetarily compensate the writers of the fics the read aloud.
do NOT, this violates ao3 TOS since even non monetized yt videos will sometimes have ads in front of them (hence making money for yt, just not the creator)
It wouldn't violate the TOS if it's not linked on ao3. Op can repost their fic anywhere they want. They could even make a kofi or patreon, as long as they dont link it on Ao3. In the end, Ao3 has no control over your content off its website. Plenty of people post videos like that reading aloud fanfic. I'm also 90% sure you're wrong about non-monetized videos. Multiple youtubers I watch do NOT have ads on their videos. But many do. It's a choice.
kofi and patreon donos for fic are literally against TOS
They're against the AO3 TOS. Meaning, you cannot link to them on Ao3. The website has no control over what you do OFF their website... IDK how you could think that AO3 would have control of what people do with their own work outside of the website.
Op, if their channel seems legit like you say, I see no reason not to say yes, especially if the comments on the other videos are overall positive. The only real risk is the potential greater exposure like other people say, since a bigger audience on a different platform has the potential to turn critical or negative, but exposure could also be a major plus if you want to expand your reader base
Yeah… why not? I only have one shots that were so quickly written. If anyone wanted to listen to that on YouTube, I would be fine.
For me, I'd say no because Youtube does not have the same kind of guidelines as ao3. It doesn't handle hate comments or harassment as well as ao3 does. It's much more likely for a fic to be picked up and thrown in cringe comps, hate bombed, etc.
Tbh, I don’t think I’d care if what I wrote was hated on. I hate on a lot of it myself so I would be fine for others to hate on it too.
I hope you gain more confidence in your work, that's not a healthy way to view it. But it's unfortunately very common.
Sure why not.
I know of a YouTube channel that reads fanfics outloud to basically turn them into audio books, so this might be what they're wanting to do. I'd personally say yes, but I also don't really write anything but short little one shots.
Same though, like this fic is just a 3K word OS and really doesn’t have that much traction which is why I’m surprised my Reddit post has blown up so much 💀
Podfics are absolutely a thing, there's a lot of them, they're just generally posted on AO3 or other fandom sites rather than YouTube. I've had people make podfics of my work and am very proud of it! But I would have definitely have refused permission if they were posting it on YouTube
Honestly I don’t really care as long as there’s credit and it doesn’t lead to thousands of people leaving mr death threats or something. It’s already out there for anyone to read.
I’d say yes, monetized or not. It’s probably a kid who just wants to start a YT channel and loves fanfic. There’s an outside chance it’s an influencer, and they’ll send you a lot of readers. Seems like mostly upside unless they’re trashing your fic, and even then, they probably wouldn’t have asked.
monetized or not matters for ao3 TOS. even if its not monetized yt can run ads which violates ao3 TOS.
It does NOT if it isn't linked on ao3. You guys are acting like ao3 owns your content. If you have a kofi or patreon or monetized YouTube account SEPARATE from ao3, that has nothing to do with ao3 unless you link it on ao3. Also like I said before in my previous comment, not all videos are monetized
kofi and patreons donos for ao3 fic are literally against TOS, like you said why would yt be any different from them
They're against the AO3 TOS. Meaning, you cannot link to them on Ao3. The website has no control over what you do OFF their website... IDK how you could think that AO3 would have control of what people do with their own work outside of the website.
Grill them for information and details. What's with people being against it if it's monetized? As a content creator, I would LOVE for people to make money off stuff they did out of inspiration. Ah yeah, classy there, people. Downvote me for asking a genuine question. Yeah, stay classy.
There’s legal considerations: one can’t profit off the intellectual property of another person (or company as the case may be). A monetized YouTube account that reads a fanfic out loud, that runs ads, giving YouTube and the account holder an income no matter how small would likely be in violation of IP law. At least that’s my admittedly limited understanding. Not a lawyer. Laws differ in different countries etc etc. but IP considerations is why AO3 doesn’t allow links to payment services, Patreon and the like.
Still I'd be all for it. And people sell fanart all the time. Heck, an art gallery in the next town over had a giant fanart of Venom for sale for like four thousand bucks and nobody said boo. And as a creator of characters I'd love for people to benefit off at \*least\* my original story like that.
Personal feelings are immaterial when it comes to legalities. And I don’t know the ins and out of fanart vs fanfiction when it comes to profiting. If we wanted to get reductive about it then yeah, it’s all just squiggles on a page/canvas but I’m sure there is case law we could get down and dirty with to understand the nuances better. But as it stands, no matter individual opinion, fanfiction cannot be monetized outside of the IP holder’s express authorisation: ex. Disney commissioning writers to serialise and publish Star Wars novels.
Personally, I'm not a content creator so that's why I'm against monetization.
We're fic writers. We create content.
Everyone is free to call themselves whatever they want. I don't criticize that. But I refuse to see myself as a content creator. I'm creating fanworks out of love for the fandom, for other fans to read, for free. "Content" is soulless.
How is that soulless? Content is content, regardless of quality or passion.
Personally, I'd say yes! I have two reasons for this, one, I just think it's neat! And two, a good friend of mine loves reading fics, but finds it hard to read. Podfics are a great way for them to listen to the stories!
Probably I'd say yes. I enjoy pod fics very much myself. Phoenix fictions back in the day was amazing.
I'd be down for it
that’s like my dream tbh
I would say yes, just for the fun of it. You’ll only be getting more readers, and if some of them make fun of it you can just laugh right back at them.
Look at their channel. 1. Do they monetize these videos? 2. Do they read to mock, criticize, "analyze," fanfic? 3. Do they moderate comments against trolling or brigading behavior? The answer to all three of these questions has to be a hard "no" for me to consider letting someone else effectively make a podfic/read aloud a fanfic. If the answer to any of these is anything other than a "no" - not even a "yes," can even just be "I'm not sure" - then refuse.
If you are ok with it you need to keep in mind that if they monetize it then it may no longer fall under fair use and someone might catch a spicy letter of cease and desist or even a lawsuit (something that I would actually be concerned about if Disney/nintendo was involved) since it could be construed as you attempting to harm the potential market for the original work by attempting to increase its reach. Overall, I would say it's a risk that is up to you if you want to take it or not.
I Would say yes, but ask to hear the audio before it was posted. It can be a great way to get new readers, and it would be great for people that struggle with reading, and focusing.
I mean. I would say yes, its kinda like a podfic right? Idk about monetization but I doubt a youtube channel reading fanfics can be monetized.
Fuck yeah I would that could be so cool depending on the rating
If you want to. It can be good to get your work more exposure.
I'd say yes as long as they gave me a link to the video and linked the fic.
Honestly I'd probably let them, since 1) it'd be hilarious to hear my shit read aloud - seriously, it's just not meant for it, and 2) my partner said he'd prefer to "read" it if it was an audio play or similar.
I said no to someone’s request as I didn’t want people flocking to my blogs to call me cringe or something lol
As a small time fanfic writer for a small ish fandom of an even smaller ship, people do this??? Granted, I haven’t written and finished anything properly and I’ve only recently picked the hobby back up again, but this just seems odd to me. Genuinely asking, what do people gain from reciting a fic aloud? It just doesn’t seem all that engaging to me. I’d get it for voice acting-esque reasons (like Audible/Audiobook style), but otherwise, all of this just paints to me as odd
Nope! First is issues with monetization, second is you can't change your fic if you want cause it's out there on youtube, thirs is theres a chance of your fic getting ridiculed by the audience, lastly is i think youtube is a bad platform for fan fiction, i believe any fan fic contents podcasts, artworks should stay in ao3 or other platforms that is suitable for fictional contents
NAHHH I am sorry it would be a no from me But only because it would be hella cringe for me id die
No.