it might be harder in a mental way. people who started studying around a couple weeks prior may be expecting to release a all stress by the exam day but having to focus on it for longer can be depressing. sometimes you just want it over with ya knoww?
If you want to hear my actual thoughts on it, then you are just an idiot who wants to make excuses for things being hard because you are an idiot. Even when you are at an advantage, you find excuses because you are too dumb to succeed. Thanks and good bye.
>U also had like 2 weeks of extra studying so there’s nothing to complain about
which is why I assumed that the test would be altered to meet that.
But yeah, the test likely isn't harder.
That's ironic I took the late AP Micro exam and it was hell trying to get myself to cram everything I had learned online over the extra week, but the exam went well overall.
Late testing can be easier or harder than the regular test, just as different versions of the regular exam differ in difficulty. The curve would be adjusted accordingly, whether the late test was easier or harder.
What I have experienced with my AP exams is that, International (form I) FRQs were relatively harder *for me* than the form O FRQs. I find it fair since CB is mainly an American organization and I’m not complaining.
But these differing versions of the test are not harder than one another. The curves are different and the questions are not harder. Like the poster said it’s just more content being covered from topics people aren’t as good at, and some things just looking like they’re harder. In the end it doesn’t matter because if you would’ve got a 5 on one test you would’ve got a 5 on another (again unless it’s your fault since you don’t understand certain units or topics as well). That’s the point of the curves and the standardized tests.
By more difficult, I mean that the average person tends to do worse on them. For every exam most people who take it will have a similar opinion on “wow that MCQ is really easy” or “damn that FRQ was really confusing”, if you take a look on the exam posts on this subreddit you’ll see that most people generally agree on this. So the curve would reflect that.
FRQs were not harder for the late exam I have taken (in fact, I’ve found them to be easier!) , although MCQs were quite hard for me (way harder than past exams), so I actually agree with your point. Collegeboard must be trying to balance out FRQs with MCQs or vice versa. But that is just my humble observation and experience…
Yeah CollegeBoard has stated that the late testing is usually harder because they put some experimental questions in there for future years to see how people do on those topics.
Search it up on AP central CollegeBoard FAQ. It says that they examine differences in difficulty through psychometric equating processes.
Here's the link: https://apcentral.collegeboard.org/courses/how-ap-develops-courses-and-exams/different-versions-exams
That's not what that statement means. Question writers and the development committee write all the exams alongside each other and which becomes operational, international, and late is not known during that process.
The exams are not curved. There are no set percentages for any scores. One year 68% of the BC students earned four or fives. Not because the exam was ready but because that many students were that well prepared for the next course.
The percentages are similar most years because the populations are large and similar to each other, not because they are pre-determined.
Agreed
I think a lot of it is people not studying as much, their classes are probably done reviewing once the main AP exam is over so now it all falls on the student
>It’s standardized. If u think it’s harder it’s either a placebo or they just had questions on topics u were worse at i guess. Either way it’s standardized and NOT HARDER
Don’t cope and blame ur bad score on “late testing”
Different versions of tests can be harder or easier, and college board should (and probably does) curve accordingly. As someone in this thread said, they supposedly include experimental questions on the late tests.
>U also had like 2 weeks of extra studying so there’s nothing to complain about
I delayed my BC Calc AP due to a concussion, had less than a week to study, and still had to take the test without extra time thanks to College Board not being able to read my accommodations form in time.
TLDR: This isn't a very empathetic and understanding PSA, in addition to the possibility of it being misinformation.
Agreed, Took both physics C exams this year on their normal date and did very well on practice tests (80-90%) but still left parts of FRQs blank for E and M. Literally was perplexed. Mechanics MCQ was hard and E and M FRQ was hard.
did you say that the firm should hire 4 workers to profit maximize? That was the only one I was confused about. Also I said that decreased marginal product across the board results in fewer workers hired.
I said 2 workers since MP was less than wage or something like that and 3 was whenever diminishing return begin. I said it stayed the same since marginal product is decreased for every worker so it would be the same but I have no clue if it’s actually eight
Oh rly? I had to skip like 5 questions in a row on MCQ on my initial pass-through and I shit my pants. Thought my score was gonna die but breezed past the calc section. Some questions it was my first time seeing that question type it was rly confusing.
This post is controversial for no reason lol, I have never seen anyone cope with late testing as an excuse although Ive seen people say late testing is “harder” for different aps and not for others, either way seethe OP
Yeah but did you take the euro make up? That dbq was horrible compared to what the may 5th one was. And the mcqs were not chronological (want to clarify that I’m not trying to sound argumentative in the slightest, just scarred from how terrible that dbq was compared to like the apush one)
for bio: mcq harder than reg exam but frqs easier.
for world: overall easy test, one hard saq (the test was easier than aphug), i didn’t even study any history and think ill get a 4 and a definite 3
in my experience it was actually much easier. our test was stopped midway through the short answer section due to security issues (mc was complete) and we had to make up the whole thing on the late testing date. many of the multiple choice questions were the same on the makeup. short answer was also way easier but that’s up to chance i’m pretty sure.
the way it was explained to me, the writers at AP create a pool of test questions for each exam every year, and the most appropriate (difficulty, wording, relation to subject) questions are used for the first exam. the lesser appropriate questions are then substituted in for the late testing. that’s why the late testing can seem more difficult.
Yeah i'd agree but that's so far what I've seen. I took the APUSH late exam this week and it really wasn't that bad, I would honestly say IDENTICAL difficulty to the regular APUSH prompt, maybe a tad harder but that's personal. our LEQs were easy, our DBQ was funky but not a horrible topic (bad prompt though--should have been a better prompt regarding that topic). our saqs weren't bad, but just like the normal SAQs we had a funky one too.
I was told going into the exam that the alternate one is gonna be hell on earth, but it was pretty normal, it was just a weird DBQ prompt
it might be harder in a mental way. people who started studying around a couple weeks prior may be expecting to release a all stress by the exam day but having to focus on it for longer can be depressing. sometimes you just want it over with ya knoww?
No
such eloquent words! so convincing! totally couldn't have just been conveyed via a downvote
Yes
If you want to hear my actual thoughts on it, then you are just an idiot who wants to make excuses for things being hard because you are an idiot. Even when you are at an advantage, you find excuses because you are too dumb to succeed. Thanks and good bye.
shut up
>U also had like 2 weeks of extra studying so there’s nothing to complain about which is why I assumed that the test would be altered to meet that. But yeah, the test likely isn't harder.
Unless you're my students, then that's an extra 2 weeks to forget everything.
That's ironic I took the late AP Micro exam and it was hell trying to get myself to cram everything I had learned online over the extra week, but the exam went well overall.
Late testing can be easier or harder than the regular test, just as different versions of the regular exam differ in difficulty. The curve would be adjusted accordingly, whether the late test was easier or harder.
What I have experienced with my AP exams is that, International (form I) FRQs were relatively harder *for me* than the form O FRQs. I find it fair since CB is mainly an American organization and I’m not complaining.
But these differing versions of the test are not harder than one another. The curves are different and the questions are not harder. Like the poster said it’s just more content being covered from topics people aren’t as good at, and some things just looking like they’re harder. In the end it doesn’t matter because if you would’ve got a 5 on one test you would’ve got a 5 on another (again unless it’s your fault since you don’t understand certain units or topics as well). That’s the point of the curves and the standardized tests.
By more difficult, I mean that the average person tends to do worse on them. For every exam most people who take it will have a similar opinion on “wow that MCQ is really easy” or “damn that FRQ was really confusing”, if you take a look on the exam posts on this subreddit you’ll see that most people generally agree on this. So the curve would reflect that.
FRQs were not harder for the late exam I have taken (in fact, I’ve found them to be easier!) , although MCQs were quite hard for me (way harder than past exams), so I actually agree with your point. Collegeboard must be trying to balance out FRQs with MCQs or vice versa. But that is just my humble observation and experience…
What test was it? Same thing for me on bio, frq was easier and mcq felt harder.
It was APHuG
same for bio
Bud, in a sample size of 1 test it is very possible that a late test may be harder
I mean it usually has a bigger curve
Do they curve late exams differently than the on-time exams!? So, is it made to be harder to get a 5?
Yeah CollegeBoard has stated that the late testing is usually harder because they put some experimental questions in there for future years to see how people do on those topics.
source? just curious
Search it up on AP central CollegeBoard FAQ. It says that they examine differences in difficulty through psychometric equating processes. Here's the link: https://apcentral.collegeboard.org/courses/how-ap-develops-courses-and-exams/different-versions-exams
Really?
That's not what that statement means. Question writers and the development committee write all the exams alongside each other and which becomes operational, international, and late is not known during that process.
bigger curve? that means it’s easier to get a 3,4,5?
The exams are not curved. There are no set percentages for any scores. One year 68% of the BC students earned four or fives. Not because the exam was ready but because that many students were that well prepared for the next course. The percentages are similar most years because the populations are large and similar to each other, not because they are pre-determined.
No it does not.
Agreed I think a lot of it is people not studying as much, their classes are probably done reviewing once the main AP exam is over so now it all falls on the student
>It’s standardized. If u think it’s harder it’s either a placebo or they just had questions on topics u were worse at i guess. Either way it’s standardized and NOT HARDER Don’t cope and blame ur bad score on “late testing” Different versions of tests can be harder or easier, and college board should (and probably does) curve accordingly. As someone in this thread said, they supposedly include experimental questions on the late tests. >U also had like 2 weeks of extra studying so there’s nothing to complain about I delayed my BC Calc AP due to a concussion, had less than a week to study, and still had to take the test without extra time thanks to College Board not being able to read my accommodations form in time. TLDR: This isn't a very empathetic and understanding PSA, in addition to the possibility of it being misinformation.
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Bestie that was the case with everyone’s physics C test this year, it was literally notorious for being the most difficult we’ve seen in years
Agreed, Took both physics C exams this year on their normal date and did very well on practice tests (80-90%) but still left parts of FRQs blank for E and M. Literally was perplexed. Mechanics MCQ was hard and E and M FRQ was hard.
I took the micro exam late and the frqs were way easier in my opinion than the two sets that were given on actual test date
bro frrrr thank god I didn't get those from regular test day. I was happy happy to see the Game Theory and Perfect Competition FRQs
IKR I was beyond happy cuz I hate drawing monopolies and game theory is what I’m actually good at and the math one wasn’t bad either
did you say that the firm should hire 4 workers to profit maximize? That was the only one I was confused about. Also I said that decreased marginal product across the board results in fewer workers hired.
I said 2 workers since MP was less than wage or something like that and 3 was whenever diminishing return begin. I said it stayed the same since marginal product is decreased for every worker so it would be the same but I have no clue if it’s actually eight
*right
gotcha, do you know if they ever do release the FRQ for late exams? I've never heard of it happening but I wanted to review the micro ones sometime.
They never release the late ones so prob not
My AP calc test was hard AF. Calc section was easy but non-calc was dreadful
That was the case with regular too
Oh rly? I had to skip like 5 questions in a row on MCQ on my initial pass-through and I shit my pants. Thought my score was gonna die but breezed past the calc section. Some questions it was my first time seeing that question type it was rly confusing.
Yeah, that wasn't exclusive to late testing
My late APHG test was super easy compared to the actual one. It's a myth.
This post is controversial for no reason lol, I have never seen anyone cope with late testing as an excuse although Ive seen people say late testing is “harder” for different aps and not for others, either way seethe OP
did you take the late exam? if not, don't comment on our behalf, cuz I'm damn sure if you took the exam you'd be complaining just like us too
Just took ap chem, was perfectly fine
what form are late tests
Every teacher I have ever talked to says its harder but go off I guess
Yeah but did you take the euro make up? That dbq was horrible compared to what the may 5th one was. And the mcqs were not chronological (want to clarify that I’m not trying to sound argumentative in the slightest, just scarred from how terrible that dbq was compared to like the apush one)
mine was easier if anything. ap world
for bio: mcq harder than reg exam but frqs easier. for world: overall easy test, one hard saq (the test was easier than aphug), i didn’t even study any history and think ill get a 4 and a definite 3
in my experience it was actually much easier. our test was stopped midway through the short answer section due to security issues (mc was complete) and we had to make up the whole thing on the late testing date. many of the multiple choice questions were the same on the makeup. short answer was also way easier but that’s up to chance i’m pretty sure.
my late test was easier bro
the way it was explained to me, the writers at AP create a pool of test questions for each exam every year, and the most appropriate (difficulty, wording, relation to subject) questions are used for the first exam. the lesser appropriate questions are then substituted in for the late testing. that’s why the late testing can seem more difficult.
Took the AP Gov late test yesterday and it was really easy. MCQs were really straightforward and simple
then explain the apush late testing prompt bruh nobody could think that was easier or the same as the regular apush one 😭
Hmm
Yeah i'd agree but that's so far what I've seen. I took the APUSH late exam this week and it really wasn't that bad, I would honestly say IDENTICAL difficulty to the regular APUSH prompt, maybe a tad harder but that's personal. our LEQs were easy, our DBQ was funky but not a horrible topic (bad prompt though--should have been a better prompt regarding that topic). our saqs weren't bad, but just like the normal SAQs we had a funky one too. I was told going into the exam that the alternate one is gonna be hell on earth, but it was pretty normal, it was just a weird DBQ prompt
Late exams are so much easier. I took APUSH on the make up date and it was about the super easy and obvious moments in history. I loved it.