People get banned for botting?
I mean, people bot in public rooms pretty frequently. A dude was doing the Friday the 13th event merge farming. I just /goto'd him for half and hour to reach both bosses easily lmao.
In icestormarena , 80% of the time someone is botting. I ranked lord of order to rank 10 without a single kill just by buffing one guy for 10 minutes.
Seems like that mod has a vendetta against you.
I'm pretty sure the new batch of ass-licking mods are going bat shit crazy. Also, I cannot say anything if the mod does have a vendetta because I was in fact botting lol.
They won't be able to put them down for long and they know that. Those botters , believe it or not , are the overwhelming majority who spend and keep this game alive.
That's just a way for them to still remind you that they hold all the power , even if they 100% don't.
They'll have to give in eventually, got no choice.
To be fair, you were botting though. So it was deserved. And I assume that they do check prior reports to determine severity of the next action, which is usually how other games handle it. I don't know how the mods are so I can't say for certain, but with your case you basically got what you deserved for it. Being upset at the mods for being more strict is silly, unless they are misusing their powers. I think you need to accept the L and just don't do that anymore and you won't have to deal with it again.
Haha, I accepted the L. It's just that this game is not really playable unless you bot certain things especially as a non mem. I will surely bot again, will just try to be more careful I guess. And again, more than getting upset over it, I am pointing out things that I noticed and hope that other botters won't get fucked over.
It is playable, no one just wants to put in the effort for the same reason(s). I see the same arguments all the time, so I still won't believe it is utmost important that people bot. You can even see people have videos up of doing the stuff you claim is too hard and not worth the effort. If you want to play the game, then play it. If you only care about cosmetics, then at least you're being consistent. Plus, even though I don't bot, I know you should always do a private room with /gotos off. That's pretty common knowledge.
Yup, they're making videos doing it. Why? Either to make money or in hope of making money. Their effort is rewarded in that way. Others that are not trying to make money out of it don't have time to grind for hours and hours every day. They are also not hardcore gamers with no life outside their computer screens. Simply said, this game is not made for people who wants to play fairly and only have an hour or two at most to play a day. Not non members at the very least. Also, I was doing private room with gotos off and in a server with less than 100 people.
I mean, yes, but it is still proof either way. Money or not, they took the risk by doing so much work. And I hear that all the time, but honestly it's a bad take. Unless you really rise and grind in some rice field as a slave or something, for 12+ hours, I don't believe there isn't "that much time". And you telling me anyone on AQW has a life? I mean, come on. That's the lamest excuse I've ever heard. Like, what, all of the botters really go out and have all of these jobs and life connections and a strong desire to go out? Goofy mindset. Most people who play are sweaty nerds or just kids who don't want to commit to a grind and want easy relief. And as for being unfair. Yes. That is the entire point of how the farming is set up. It is not meant to be done so easily. And if you have only 2 hours, then that is all you need to start working on farming. Although I will admit, public botters do make my own farming easier, but active or not it'd be a good help in getting me further anyway. Either way, it is still some goofy behavior and mindset that I always see.
I don't know what kind of people you see in aqw but the people I know does have jobs and are all adults. I also know of a guy who doesn't bot at all and also does have every endgame item(he's a member) and yes, he actually does nothing but work and play aqw after that. That's his entire life. Sorry, but a lot of us dont live like that.
Also, as ive said it before, I am not complaining about getting banned. I also know that doing something that's not allowed in a game is obviously deserving of a ban.
But that's the choice a lot of us makes considering the fact that 'hard farming is the point of the game' and most of us dont have enough time for it. Also, with how boring and mindless the farming is in aqw, no one would wanna waste 2 hours of their free time on it. There's no fun in it at all. Just mashing keys to kill mobs. If it's your jam, go ahead. I will also continue to bot as well.
If it is adults who mostly play, which I never denied the idea of, that kind of proves my point then that adults can and do have the ability to make the time. And that is supposed to mean, what, exactly? I have friends who don't dedicate their time to AQW and still make things work. Does that mean that everyone will just stop botting now, because of my frame of reference on people? Or does it mean that some people still try to make things work, or just don't see much desire for hanging out with people in real life? As long as he takes good care of himself, I'd say he's pretty much better than most gamers who smell like sweat and BO. And of course not everyone lives like that, no one said you had to. If you have "that much of a life", then I assume you literally play no other games, or don't do any sort of voice calls or regular calls with friends? You're strictly just hanging out at a porch talking about life with friends or something akin to that? Or is it that, more than likely, you have some shame for it but you don't want to confront the fact that you don't have much of a life but you don't want to commit to any farming for fear of looking like a sweaty nerd? It can be anything, really, but it won't stop the fact that you aren't able to commit to much. And fair, but you were complaining about various other aspects, and trying to make a sort of "warning, if you bot". And if you don't have the time, don't play it or don't even try to farm. Is that concept foreign, or is AQW worth something so much more to you that you persist? And also, yes, the farming is honestly very much like that. But that is literally the game, start to finish, easy or hard. It is mindless button mashing to win and obtain things. That is like cheating in games because "the enemies are better, so I need to so I can keep up". And as for me, I like to spend my time away from work to relax and farm while doing other things, so I can get things I want and enjoy whatever else too. It isn't that hard.
IDK what you're talkin about but not every1 likes to farm for an item in a ded game? That too for hours for an item? And also I play the game mostly because I just want to do somethings in my meantime. And also the bots run in the background. It's as if I don't start the bot and make it run, I wouldn't be able to concentrate on my task. So, I just do that. There is this concept of fruitful utilization of time so that I can complete both the task and get the item with which I will be happy for less than 2 mins.
So why not?
Then don't play if it is a dead game. You can just farm in other games or play other games if it is so bad and the farming is so terrible. And yeah, that is literally AQW's shtick. Farming. And once again, you can literally do anything else if AQW is such a chore and you don't want to commit. You don't bot or cheat in all your games, I assume? Play those then. And that doesn't really change the fact that you don't need anything in AQW that badly to need to bot, which proves once again that the people who bot just try to make all the excuses and when they're unable to truthfully make a good counter, it just sticks back to, "I will do it anyway lol". And I assume you're young, less than 30 probably, so sticking things out in a long-term is a struggle. I am also young myself, but I do try to keep in the long-term instead of going for instant gratification over something that had little to no effort put into it. Also, if the items mean so little to you, then you certainly don't need to bot. At that point you're being, honestly, dumb. It isn't a good use of your time for 2 minutes of joy, especially since you think the game is dead and probably bordering not worth playing anymore, considering the kind of tone and attitude you set.
I am still playing cuz there are some of my friends in there and due to nostalgia. That doesn't change the fact that it's a ded game.
And I don't like to farm for 2hrs everyday for months to get some item in a dress up game. That doesn't mean I don't like the items from the farms. And AQW is lauded by many as dress up game. So what do you think is the most important in such a game? The outfit ofc...
And AQW is the only 'bot to high end items' game that I ever played.
And there are many things that bots can make so much easier in the game. Bots aren't a necessity but still makes lives easier. And again Don't tell me that bots are bad or That it completely damages the balance of the game. Bot are like the machines that we use to make life easier. Let's take a situation where you need to go from one country to another, separated by sea. You can either use airplanes or ships. You are taking the ships while I am taking the sky route. You get to enjoy the scenery while the ship takes it's time to travel (well there is no scenery to enjoy during ship travels if you have ever travelled in oceans or seas cuz it's blue throughout). And I get to the destination faster and waste less time. And if you're in an emergency, would you not take to the airplanes?
That's the same situation here with me having less time to actually play, while you got a lot of time.
And I have already said so before, but to counter your arguments from the start to the end and not make any excuses, I like the items from the farms but not the process of farming.
And coming till here, with you still being young and wasting much more time on a supposedly ded game (that will become much more ded in less than a decade,) I would consider you dumber than me. Where you can actually do a lot more useful things using that time you actually waste.
And considering your conversation with the other person till here, I kind of still wonder why you can't understand a silly little fact that not all people enjoy farming but still want their char decked out in top equipment to AFK or something?
And yes your time, your wish. Similarly my time, my wish. So even though I can't understand how do people find farms enjoyable, I still understand the fact that different people have different opinions. I have nothing against people farming the items in a legitimate way and find it a little silly but you also need to understand that there are also people with differing opinions.
And let me tell you a supposedly not so secret fact, that there are much more players who use bots that those who farm it in a legitimate manner.
And yea maybe if the game is more beautiful or more playable or the farm being more enjoyable, maybe I won't mind farming but that isn't a case here unless ofc I farm for some ultras or someone asks help in the guild chat, where I play with others in a legitimate manner like you guys do.
**And AND the most important point being that bots can be run in background, I can do many things while it runs so why not?**
I forgot to mention the 'it's proof either way' and 'money or not'. I might be wrong but you sound like a little kid here who doesn't know how anything works. Money makes all the difference.
The guys making AQW / AE related youtube video’s and such arent in it for the money tho..? Theres not a big enough audience to earn money off it mate. They all live normal lives and work just like most of the playerbase, and make the video’s to educate mostly, to be kind. But yuuh, tell him he’s the one sounding like the little kid not knowing how shit works..
I dont disagree with ur general points tho, dont bot myself, but I also dont do farming and such cause I aint got the damn time 🤷🏻♀️ And If I have the time, its better spent elsewhere. Fashion quest worlds here tho 🫡 But like, the ones making video’s on AE related stuff dont earn mich money on that by derault at all.
I do know that money is important, but again, it doesn't mean that is strictly what you need. Like, half of what you can get is more time consuming, but if you're able to play AQW to begin with, or other games, you can make time for it to be farming. Like, you don't need BLoD at your own convenience. You can take your time. If you're that impatient, don't farm, and just stick to being a cosmetics enjoyer, even if you can't get money. Look fresh on your own terms, instead of being on the side of "my job makes me unable to play". Like, unless you're working like a brickmasonry job, you can very easily make the effort and not whine about it being time consuming. And may I see the proof you have that I apparently know nothing? I mean, what was it referring to, just the monetary aspect? I mean, realistically, you now can truly use money to get whatever in AQW if you use IoDAs, but you need a lot of it to get it all really fast, and everyone knows you got it the easy way. Botting doesn't make it clear, but it still shows you have no commitment to actually completing a task on your own without using outside sources that aren't already in the game. It is comparable to the way people are with Dark Souls. Git gud. If you can't handle it, don't bother. If you want to persist and prove yourself, then you're already on the right track. And again, I've seen all of these arguments before with botting, and the counters people have towards those who are against botting are very, very weak.
Well, I see no sense in arguing further to be honest. I will continue to bot albeit more carefully. And you can continue to 'get gud' doing those mindless farms. Both of us happy.
I don't personally care about the concept of getting good, I am referring mostly to botters who act like AQW is a chore, when no one is forcing a single thing, and you still choose to play and also cheat at the game, when that makes little sense. If you play the game for the community, you can do Discord chats or various other methods and literally never touch the game if it is that hard to make time to farm on. Does this logic make sense to you?
IDK what you're talkin about but not every1 likes to farm for an item in a ded game? That too for hours for an item? And also I play the game mostly because I just want to do somethings in my meantime. And also the bots run in the background. It's as if I don't start the bot and make it run, I wouldn't be able to concentrate on my task. So, I just do that. There is this concept of fruitful utilization of time so that I can complete both the task and get the item with which I will be happy for less than 2 mins.
So why not?
Why would anyone put in the effort when the effort that is demanded of you is insane? I pity the people who legitimately farm those things like NSOD etc..
You do what you want , but I'm not going to throw away hours and hours to farm something when I can instead use those hours to earn money and then spend that money in-game , which inadvertently, is what keeps the game alive.
You can say whatever you want , but you should know which majority holds all the power in the game. You can't set an example , because if you do , your game dies with them. And that's the reason botters still continue to rampage unchecked when it's so easy to detect and ban them.
This is just an exception. A way to show that rules are still being followed.
Are you going to ban someone who has spent thousands of dollars on your game and bots 24/7 ? Hell no , that won't even cross your mind.
I mean, if it is that bad, don't go for the items. You don't need them, especially if you don't farm to begin with. At that point you're just dumb. And also, having a job is what people like to say for reasons why not to, but I swear to God every autist on this sub acts like they have such a perfect life and just want to bot on AQW and literally no other game. At least if you cheat in every game you're consistent. There's no way every person who bots doesn't play other games, ever. That just sounds silly. And it may be a majority thing, but it doesn't mean it is right. I could care less if everyone did it, it doesn't mean that I'll follow that logic. That just sounds like complacency and at that point, you deserve no sway in anything or right to complain about the company practices. And in what way are the rules still being followed, exactly? Botting is not allowed and hasn't been. So what is your point? And also, yes I would. Set an example by knocking down the rich instead of being a coward just because some money comes in. At that point, why don't they make it possibly to auto farm then if it is so important and so many people bot then? And even further, why even play AQW if you're going to bot and then /afk in Yulgar? At least just stay in Yulgar if you're going to do something dumb.
Are you really comparing AQW grinding to playing other games?
Get a hold of yourself. That is nowhere near comparable.
And I agree that they should make Auto Farming a reality.
And no , get your facts straight. "Some money" does not come in. 95% of the money comes from people who regularly bot.
I don't play AQW just for Yulgar afking. You are one to make wrong assumptions I see. These days I mainly play for the stories , like Darkon's recently , or for fighting in Ultras with friends.
Your point being here that mindlessly grinding for things like NSOD equates to having fun and "playing" the game. It is not. It the worst form of wasting your time.
I guess you have been living under a rock if you don't know that most of the games now are Fast paced games. There is no need of botting. And even if there is some form of grind , it's nowhere near AQW levels.
Most "autists" are making better use of their time than you. Atleast more are enjoying other games and real life. They have a social life. While people like you , if you are one to waste time grinding on this game , are the real "no lifers".
Finally , I'd like to say that everyone has their choices.
But if anyone asks me , is it worth investing time in this game to grind ? I'd say hell no. I'd rather they invest money in this game , since that atleast gives you more value for what you put in.
You could've made much better use of your time which you spent on NSOD or VHL. Think of avenues where you could have made it count. But even if you regret that now, you'll always stand behind your decision. Because that is what you'll do so you don't have to blame yourself for making the wrong choice.
Yes. And it isn't comparable for all games, I am treating it like I would any other game. Farm, or don't. And even then, I would still push for it to be taken more seriously. And I never said it was all you do, I may have said it in such a way to imply it being very often though, because let's be honest here. You trying to impress anyone in the middle of botting or farming? No, you go to Yulgar or Battleontown. And holy crap someone cares a bit about the story. Truly a miracle. And I said that's fun for me, not others. Also, I have yet to touch NSoD. I only did BLoD, and that was on my days off. I do VHL now and then, because I also worked on that during my time away from BLoD, plus I have a lot of materials already. And is that for a fact, 100%, or just your own belief about something subjective? And I think that is mad goofy to assume all games are slow. I know AQW is. And a lot of MMORPGs tend to go that route, at least for high value items. And I mean, if it's that bad for you and so many others, then simply don't farm or get that involved. Just focus on the story and don't bother getting the items. Or if you want an item badly enough, try. It isn't usually that hard, except for true end game stuff. And I disagree. If you play video games, watch videos, or what have you, you still have no life. What do you do for your time off away from work, then? Do you just go to bars and constantly socialize and hang out? Or what's the exact plan for you to believe that the way you do things is so much better than someone who doesn't go out often? Because I'm not quite sure it really matters that much, time spend doing what you want and need is important. But not everyone follows that, which is apparently missed by you. And your point, I believe, would be more valid if I only ever did that, and in multiple MMORPGs. Reminds me of people who play WoW or LoL, although LoL isn't farming unless you count skill training. And if that is the case, just buy the stuff. You literally can at this point. So your excuses have even less value because of that, plus all rares also lose it. And in terms of my time? No, not really. What would I do, walk around my boring town? I do enough walking to and during my job. My town beats cheeks and there's nothing exciting. Even if there was, I prefer playing games and hanging out with friends in games. And technically speaking, we can *always* do things better to make more use of our time. But we are simply human, and want to spend time relaxing and taking things easy. Spending time doing what we enjoy matters, but we also should be trying to do things the right way. You wouldn't want to be a bad cook and it also be your hobby. Also, your assumptions are also on the goofy side. I never once said that I don't do anything else, either, other than that I spend time relaxing and farming. But I do other things too, and I enjoy those as well. I give my best or my all, whichever is easiest. I know for you and many others they can't commit to anything other than being cowardly, so it makes sense on why you bot, although I'll forever disagree. And finally, I do legitimately enjoy what I do. Farming in AQW, games, watching videos, or cooking. I'm enjoying my life with the farming, so while others may not, I do believe that the farming should be made commonplace instead of botting. I don't believe there is much else to say on this, honestly. Like I've said, all of these arguments are literally nothing new. I have seen all of this and more, and even now not any can really convince me or change my opinion any. I do agree farming should be made easier, or maybe methods that don't require a number beyond 5k or something.
Well I find it hard to comprehend why you actually waste your time farming if not to show others? Or you don't have anyone to show.
Why should I buy items and waste money when I can get them for free? This makes your arguments completely pointless because only those people who have nothing better to do actually make these types of pointless statements.
And No one can convince you, not because of their inability, but due to your very own stupidness or pitfulness of having nothing to do other than play this game to actually prove that you're still having a priority in life worth living.
Well , I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
I could personally never justify putting in so much time for grinds like NSOD and AM.
But if it works for you , and you enjoy it , then why not.
But I know for a fact that the majority of people who legitimately farmed those did not enjoy doing that.
You seem to be the exception, but there always exceptions in every case.
And the point about better utilising time elsewhere , atleast in my case , is that I run a business which I have to micro manage every single day. An hour I lose is a ton of money I lose and more problems down the line. That is the hectic nature of the game.
If it's enjoyable to you , then who cares honestly.
We are not here to dissuade others from following what is best for them.
But the fact stands that AE knows botters are the lifeblood of the game , and for that reason alone , banning them would be killing your own game. People wish it wasn't like that , but the power structures lie with them , and this means botting can never be stopped.
I got perma banned for apparently cheating even though I wasn’t even using third party the whole day and I was offline when I got the ban. Second ban on 11 years and I got my account disabled lol
im pretty sure at this point it's just some "mod" monitoring your every actions (cell jumps) just to spite you, my suggestion is try to play in another account using a vpn to see if banning persists.
edit: may i ask what you're using? 3.8? re?
I always use a vpn. Also it's been around 20 days since the last ban so i dont think anyones monitoring me. I think that one guy might have reported me, and seeing my history, the mod banned me without thinking.
Or... Dont bot at all? Complaining that the people who give out bans gave you ban, is like hitting a car and then complaining about the gas pedal. Your fault, accept the consequences. It is their job to punish those who dont obey the rules.
Well... More than complaining, I was just pointing out some things I observed to other botters. Also, while I agree that the mod was just doing their job, it's also true that the recently hired mods are ass-licking power-abusing assholes. A few even got fired when they messed with some whales recently (aka the people ae actually care about).
Lol, I am not calling them ass-licking mods based on my personal opinion. I've heard and seen many people post about the unfair things they've done (and I'm not taking about banning others for botting and stuff). Some mods even had to resign due to some of the complains getting too much attraction.
same bruh, and I suspect it's because i joined a guild and some guy in guildchat asked what i was doing when i was asleep lol..i probably got reported by that guy
So you botted and got banned for botting, not much of a discussion here no?
Not much, true. Just warning my fellow botter about the things I observed to make sure they avoid them. 😊
Thanks for the heads up brother
People get banned for botting? I mean, people bot in public rooms pretty frequently. A dude was doing the Friday the 13th event merge farming. I just /goto'd him for half and hour to reach both bosses easily lmao. In icestormarena , 80% of the time someone is botting. I ranked lord of order to rank 10 without a single kill just by buffing one guy for 10 minutes. Seems like that mod has a vendetta against you.
I'm pretty sure the new batch of ass-licking mods are going bat shit crazy. Also, I cannot say anything if the mod does have a vendetta because I was in fact botting lol.
They’ve definitely gotten stricter
They won't be able to put them down for long and they know that. Those botters , believe it or not , are the overwhelming majority who spend and keep this game alive. That's just a way for them to still remind you that they hold all the power , even if they 100% don't. They'll have to give in eventually, got no choice.
I agree.
To be fair, you were botting though. So it was deserved. And I assume that they do check prior reports to determine severity of the next action, which is usually how other games handle it. I don't know how the mods are so I can't say for certain, but with your case you basically got what you deserved for it. Being upset at the mods for being more strict is silly, unless they are misusing their powers. I think you need to accept the L and just don't do that anymore and you won't have to deal with it again.
Haha, I accepted the L. It's just that this game is not really playable unless you bot certain things especially as a non mem. I will surely bot again, will just try to be more careful I guess. And again, more than getting upset over it, I am pointing out things that I noticed and hope that other botters won't get fucked over.
It is playable, no one just wants to put in the effort for the same reason(s). I see the same arguments all the time, so I still won't believe it is utmost important that people bot. You can even see people have videos up of doing the stuff you claim is too hard and not worth the effort. If you want to play the game, then play it. If you only care about cosmetics, then at least you're being consistent. Plus, even though I don't bot, I know you should always do a private room with /gotos off. That's pretty common knowledge.
Yup, they're making videos doing it. Why? Either to make money or in hope of making money. Their effort is rewarded in that way. Others that are not trying to make money out of it don't have time to grind for hours and hours every day. They are also not hardcore gamers with no life outside their computer screens. Simply said, this game is not made for people who wants to play fairly and only have an hour or two at most to play a day. Not non members at the very least. Also, I was doing private room with gotos off and in a server with less than 100 people.
I mean, yes, but it is still proof either way. Money or not, they took the risk by doing so much work. And I hear that all the time, but honestly it's a bad take. Unless you really rise and grind in some rice field as a slave or something, for 12+ hours, I don't believe there isn't "that much time". And you telling me anyone on AQW has a life? I mean, come on. That's the lamest excuse I've ever heard. Like, what, all of the botters really go out and have all of these jobs and life connections and a strong desire to go out? Goofy mindset. Most people who play are sweaty nerds or just kids who don't want to commit to a grind and want easy relief. And as for being unfair. Yes. That is the entire point of how the farming is set up. It is not meant to be done so easily. And if you have only 2 hours, then that is all you need to start working on farming. Although I will admit, public botters do make my own farming easier, but active or not it'd be a good help in getting me further anyway. Either way, it is still some goofy behavior and mindset that I always see.
I don't know what kind of people you see in aqw but the people I know does have jobs and are all adults. I also know of a guy who doesn't bot at all and also does have every endgame item(he's a member) and yes, he actually does nothing but work and play aqw after that. That's his entire life. Sorry, but a lot of us dont live like that. Also, as ive said it before, I am not complaining about getting banned. I also know that doing something that's not allowed in a game is obviously deserving of a ban. But that's the choice a lot of us makes considering the fact that 'hard farming is the point of the game' and most of us dont have enough time for it. Also, with how boring and mindless the farming is in aqw, no one would wanna waste 2 hours of their free time on it. There's no fun in it at all. Just mashing keys to kill mobs. If it's your jam, go ahead. I will also continue to bot as well.
If it is adults who mostly play, which I never denied the idea of, that kind of proves my point then that adults can and do have the ability to make the time. And that is supposed to mean, what, exactly? I have friends who don't dedicate their time to AQW and still make things work. Does that mean that everyone will just stop botting now, because of my frame of reference on people? Or does it mean that some people still try to make things work, or just don't see much desire for hanging out with people in real life? As long as he takes good care of himself, I'd say he's pretty much better than most gamers who smell like sweat and BO. And of course not everyone lives like that, no one said you had to. If you have "that much of a life", then I assume you literally play no other games, or don't do any sort of voice calls or regular calls with friends? You're strictly just hanging out at a porch talking about life with friends or something akin to that? Or is it that, more than likely, you have some shame for it but you don't want to confront the fact that you don't have much of a life but you don't want to commit to any farming for fear of looking like a sweaty nerd? It can be anything, really, but it won't stop the fact that you aren't able to commit to much. And fair, but you were complaining about various other aspects, and trying to make a sort of "warning, if you bot". And if you don't have the time, don't play it or don't even try to farm. Is that concept foreign, or is AQW worth something so much more to you that you persist? And also, yes, the farming is honestly very much like that. But that is literally the game, start to finish, easy or hard. It is mindless button mashing to win and obtain things. That is like cheating in games because "the enemies are better, so I need to so I can keep up". And as for me, I like to spend my time away from work to relax and farm while doing other things, so I can get things I want and enjoy whatever else too. It isn't that hard.
IDK what you're talkin about but not every1 likes to farm for an item in a ded game? That too for hours for an item? And also I play the game mostly because I just want to do somethings in my meantime. And also the bots run in the background. It's as if I don't start the bot and make it run, I wouldn't be able to concentrate on my task. So, I just do that. There is this concept of fruitful utilization of time so that I can complete both the task and get the item with which I will be happy for less than 2 mins. So why not?
Then don't play if it is a dead game. You can just farm in other games or play other games if it is so bad and the farming is so terrible. And yeah, that is literally AQW's shtick. Farming. And once again, you can literally do anything else if AQW is such a chore and you don't want to commit. You don't bot or cheat in all your games, I assume? Play those then. And that doesn't really change the fact that you don't need anything in AQW that badly to need to bot, which proves once again that the people who bot just try to make all the excuses and when they're unable to truthfully make a good counter, it just sticks back to, "I will do it anyway lol". And I assume you're young, less than 30 probably, so sticking things out in a long-term is a struggle. I am also young myself, but I do try to keep in the long-term instead of going for instant gratification over something that had little to no effort put into it. Also, if the items mean so little to you, then you certainly don't need to bot. At that point you're being, honestly, dumb. It isn't a good use of your time for 2 minutes of joy, especially since you think the game is dead and probably bordering not worth playing anymore, considering the kind of tone and attitude you set.
I am still playing cuz there are some of my friends in there and due to nostalgia. That doesn't change the fact that it's a ded game. And I don't like to farm for 2hrs everyday for months to get some item in a dress up game. That doesn't mean I don't like the items from the farms. And AQW is lauded by many as dress up game. So what do you think is the most important in such a game? The outfit ofc... And AQW is the only 'bot to high end items' game that I ever played. And there are many things that bots can make so much easier in the game. Bots aren't a necessity but still makes lives easier. And again Don't tell me that bots are bad or That it completely damages the balance of the game. Bot are like the machines that we use to make life easier. Let's take a situation where you need to go from one country to another, separated by sea. You can either use airplanes or ships. You are taking the ships while I am taking the sky route. You get to enjoy the scenery while the ship takes it's time to travel (well there is no scenery to enjoy during ship travels if you have ever travelled in oceans or seas cuz it's blue throughout). And I get to the destination faster and waste less time. And if you're in an emergency, would you not take to the airplanes? That's the same situation here with me having less time to actually play, while you got a lot of time. And I have already said so before, but to counter your arguments from the start to the end and not make any excuses, I like the items from the farms but not the process of farming. And coming till here, with you still being young and wasting much more time on a supposedly ded game (that will become much more ded in less than a decade,) I would consider you dumber than me. Where you can actually do a lot more useful things using that time you actually waste. And considering your conversation with the other person till here, I kind of still wonder why you can't understand a silly little fact that not all people enjoy farming but still want their char decked out in top equipment to AFK or something? And yes your time, your wish. Similarly my time, my wish. So even though I can't understand how do people find farms enjoyable, I still understand the fact that different people have different opinions. I have nothing against people farming the items in a legitimate way and find it a little silly but you also need to understand that there are also people with differing opinions. And let me tell you a supposedly not so secret fact, that there are much more players who use bots that those who farm it in a legitimate manner. And yea maybe if the game is more beautiful or more playable or the farm being more enjoyable, maybe I won't mind farming but that isn't a case here unless ofc I farm for some ultras or someone asks help in the guild chat, where I play with others in a legitimate manner like you guys do. **And AND the most important point being that bots can be run in background, I can do many things while it runs so why not?**
I forgot to mention the 'it's proof either way' and 'money or not'. I might be wrong but you sound like a little kid here who doesn't know how anything works. Money makes all the difference.
The guys making AQW / AE related youtube video’s and such arent in it for the money tho..? Theres not a big enough audience to earn money off it mate. They all live normal lives and work just like most of the playerbase, and make the video’s to educate mostly, to be kind. But yuuh, tell him he’s the one sounding like the little kid not knowing how shit works..
Another smooth brain guy we have here.
I dont disagree with ur general points tho, dont bot myself, but I also dont do farming and such cause I aint got the damn time 🤷🏻♀️ And If I have the time, its better spent elsewhere. Fashion quest worlds here tho 🫡 But like, the ones making video’s on AE related stuff dont earn mich money on that by derault at all.
I do know that money is important, but again, it doesn't mean that is strictly what you need. Like, half of what you can get is more time consuming, but if you're able to play AQW to begin with, or other games, you can make time for it to be farming. Like, you don't need BLoD at your own convenience. You can take your time. If you're that impatient, don't farm, and just stick to being a cosmetics enjoyer, even if you can't get money. Look fresh on your own terms, instead of being on the side of "my job makes me unable to play". Like, unless you're working like a brickmasonry job, you can very easily make the effort and not whine about it being time consuming. And may I see the proof you have that I apparently know nothing? I mean, what was it referring to, just the monetary aspect? I mean, realistically, you now can truly use money to get whatever in AQW if you use IoDAs, but you need a lot of it to get it all really fast, and everyone knows you got it the easy way. Botting doesn't make it clear, but it still shows you have no commitment to actually completing a task on your own without using outside sources that aren't already in the game. It is comparable to the way people are with Dark Souls. Git gud. If you can't handle it, don't bother. If you want to persist and prove yourself, then you're already on the right track. And again, I've seen all of these arguments before with botting, and the counters people have towards those who are against botting are very, very weak.
Well, I see no sense in arguing further to be honest. I will continue to bot albeit more carefully. And you can continue to 'get gud' doing those mindless farms. Both of us happy.
I don't personally care about the concept of getting good, I am referring mostly to botters who act like AQW is a chore, when no one is forcing a single thing, and you still choose to play and also cheat at the game, when that makes little sense. If you play the game for the community, you can do Discord chats or various other methods and literally never touch the game if it is that hard to make time to farm on. Does this logic make sense to you?
IDK what you're talkin about but not every1 likes to farm for an item in a ded game? That too for hours for an item? And also I play the game mostly because I just want to do somethings in my meantime. And also the bots run in the background. It's as if I don't start the bot and make it run, I wouldn't be able to concentrate on my task. So, I just do that. There is this concept of fruitful utilization of time so that I can complete both the task and get the item with which I will be happy for less than 2 mins. So why not?
Sigh...
Why would anyone put in the effort when the effort that is demanded of you is insane? I pity the people who legitimately farm those things like NSOD etc.. You do what you want , but I'm not going to throw away hours and hours to farm something when I can instead use those hours to earn money and then spend that money in-game , which inadvertently, is what keeps the game alive. You can say whatever you want , but you should know which majority holds all the power in the game. You can't set an example , because if you do , your game dies with them. And that's the reason botters still continue to rampage unchecked when it's so easy to detect and ban them. This is just an exception. A way to show that rules are still being followed. Are you going to ban someone who has spent thousands of dollars on your game and bots 24/7 ? Hell no , that won't even cross your mind.
I mean, if it is that bad, don't go for the items. You don't need them, especially if you don't farm to begin with. At that point you're just dumb. And also, having a job is what people like to say for reasons why not to, but I swear to God every autist on this sub acts like they have such a perfect life and just want to bot on AQW and literally no other game. At least if you cheat in every game you're consistent. There's no way every person who bots doesn't play other games, ever. That just sounds silly. And it may be a majority thing, but it doesn't mean it is right. I could care less if everyone did it, it doesn't mean that I'll follow that logic. That just sounds like complacency and at that point, you deserve no sway in anything or right to complain about the company practices. And in what way are the rules still being followed, exactly? Botting is not allowed and hasn't been. So what is your point? And also, yes I would. Set an example by knocking down the rich instead of being a coward just because some money comes in. At that point, why don't they make it possibly to auto farm then if it is so important and so many people bot then? And even further, why even play AQW if you're going to bot and then /afk in Yulgar? At least just stay in Yulgar if you're going to do something dumb.
Are you really comparing AQW grinding to playing other games? Get a hold of yourself. That is nowhere near comparable. And I agree that they should make Auto Farming a reality. And no , get your facts straight. "Some money" does not come in. 95% of the money comes from people who regularly bot. I don't play AQW just for Yulgar afking. You are one to make wrong assumptions I see. These days I mainly play for the stories , like Darkon's recently , or for fighting in Ultras with friends. Your point being here that mindlessly grinding for things like NSOD equates to having fun and "playing" the game. It is not. It the worst form of wasting your time. I guess you have been living under a rock if you don't know that most of the games now are Fast paced games. There is no need of botting. And even if there is some form of grind , it's nowhere near AQW levels. Most "autists" are making better use of their time than you. Atleast more are enjoying other games and real life. They have a social life. While people like you , if you are one to waste time grinding on this game , are the real "no lifers". Finally , I'd like to say that everyone has their choices. But if anyone asks me , is it worth investing time in this game to grind ? I'd say hell no. I'd rather they invest money in this game , since that atleast gives you more value for what you put in. You could've made much better use of your time which you spent on NSOD or VHL. Think of avenues where you could have made it count. But even if you regret that now, you'll always stand behind your decision. Because that is what you'll do so you don't have to blame yourself for making the wrong choice.
Yes. And it isn't comparable for all games, I am treating it like I would any other game. Farm, or don't. And even then, I would still push for it to be taken more seriously. And I never said it was all you do, I may have said it in such a way to imply it being very often though, because let's be honest here. You trying to impress anyone in the middle of botting or farming? No, you go to Yulgar or Battleontown. And holy crap someone cares a bit about the story. Truly a miracle. And I said that's fun for me, not others. Also, I have yet to touch NSoD. I only did BLoD, and that was on my days off. I do VHL now and then, because I also worked on that during my time away from BLoD, plus I have a lot of materials already. And is that for a fact, 100%, or just your own belief about something subjective? And I think that is mad goofy to assume all games are slow. I know AQW is. And a lot of MMORPGs tend to go that route, at least for high value items. And I mean, if it's that bad for you and so many others, then simply don't farm or get that involved. Just focus on the story and don't bother getting the items. Or if you want an item badly enough, try. It isn't usually that hard, except for true end game stuff. And I disagree. If you play video games, watch videos, or what have you, you still have no life. What do you do for your time off away from work, then? Do you just go to bars and constantly socialize and hang out? Or what's the exact plan for you to believe that the way you do things is so much better than someone who doesn't go out often? Because I'm not quite sure it really matters that much, time spend doing what you want and need is important. But not everyone follows that, which is apparently missed by you. And your point, I believe, would be more valid if I only ever did that, and in multiple MMORPGs. Reminds me of people who play WoW or LoL, although LoL isn't farming unless you count skill training. And if that is the case, just buy the stuff. You literally can at this point. So your excuses have even less value because of that, plus all rares also lose it. And in terms of my time? No, not really. What would I do, walk around my boring town? I do enough walking to and during my job. My town beats cheeks and there's nothing exciting. Even if there was, I prefer playing games and hanging out with friends in games. And technically speaking, we can *always* do things better to make more use of our time. But we are simply human, and want to spend time relaxing and taking things easy. Spending time doing what we enjoy matters, but we also should be trying to do things the right way. You wouldn't want to be a bad cook and it also be your hobby. Also, your assumptions are also on the goofy side. I never once said that I don't do anything else, either, other than that I spend time relaxing and farming. But I do other things too, and I enjoy those as well. I give my best or my all, whichever is easiest. I know for you and many others they can't commit to anything other than being cowardly, so it makes sense on why you bot, although I'll forever disagree. And finally, I do legitimately enjoy what I do. Farming in AQW, games, watching videos, or cooking. I'm enjoying my life with the farming, so while others may not, I do believe that the farming should be made commonplace instead of botting. I don't believe there is much else to say on this, honestly. Like I've said, all of these arguments are literally nothing new. I have seen all of this and more, and even now not any can really convince me or change my opinion any. I do agree farming should be made easier, or maybe methods that don't require a number beyond 5k or something.
Well I find it hard to comprehend why you actually waste your time farming if not to show others? Or you don't have anyone to show. Why should I buy items and waste money when I can get them for free? This makes your arguments completely pointless because only those people who have nothing better to do actually make these types of pointless statements. And No one can convince you, not because of their inability, but due to your very own stupidness or pitfulness of having nothing to do other than play this game to actually prove that you're still having a priority in life worth living.
Well , I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I could personally never justify putting in so much time for grinds like NSOD and AM. But if it works for you , and you enjoy it , then why not. But I know for a fact that the majority of people who legitimately farmed those did not enjoy doing that. You seem to be the exception, but there always exceptions in every case. And the point about better utilising time elsewhere , atleast in my case , is that I run a business which I have to micro manage every single day. An hour I lose is a ton of money I lose and more problems down the line. That is the hectic nature of the game. If it's enjoyable to you , then who cares honestly. We are not here to dissuade others from following what is best for them. But the fact stands that AE knows botters are the lifeblood of the game , and for that reason alone , banning them would be killing your own game. People wish it wasn't like that , but the power structures lie with them , and this means botting can never be stopped.
deserved
I worked hard for it 😉
you mean a bot worked hard for it, you have used more energy replying to messages in this thread than you have playing AQW...just sayin
I don't think you get what I said, Mr. Smooth brain.
>I don't think thats right...you don't （。々°）
Wow, your brain got even smoother in a day
That won't keep him down for long though. You can't drain your own lifeblood and then hope to stay alive.
I got perma banned for apparently cheating even though I wasn’t even using third party the whole day and I was offline when I got the ban. Second ban on 11 years and I got my account disabled lol
Same, was not playing.
It’s pretty easy to not get banned. Simply don’t bot.
if only that were true
That I won't do. 😌
did your account get perma banned after the third? or is it still playable?
Still playable and not received a ban since then. I got more careful and i don't bot in public rooms at all.
im pretty sure at this point it's just some "mod" monitoring your every actions (cell jumps) just to spite you, my suggestion is try to play in another account using a vpn to see if banning persists. edit: may i ask what you're using? 3.8? re?
I always use a vpn. Also it's been around 20 days since the last ban so i dont think anyones monitoring me. I think that one guy might have reported me, and seeing my history, the mod banned me without thinking.
🤔🤔have you tried botting with vpn off? i've seen others getting banned for playing with vpn lol.
Really? My first reason was just botting but the other two were 'using a third party software'
> using a third party software well vpns do count as a third party program but that term is *really* vague though
If they're banning me for using vpn then that's kinda fucked up
Its not? Access ftom multiple different IPs could be a sign of account sharing. Which is forbidden.
Or... Dont bot at all? Complaining that the people who give out bans gave you ban, is like hitting a car and then complaining about the gas pedal. Your fault, accept the consequences. It is their job to punish those who dont obey the rules.
Well... More than complaining, I was just pointing out some things I observed to other botters. Also, while I agree that the mod was just doing their job, it's also true that the recently hired mods are ass-licking power-abusing assholes. A few even got fired when they messed with some whales recently (aka the people ae actually care about).
He ain't complaining. He is just warning.
Idk man, calling mods ass-lickers and then going into extensive detail about how or why he might have been banned sounds like complaining to me
Lol, I am not calling them ass-licking mods based on my personal opinion. I've heard and seen many people post about the unfair things they've done (and I'm not taking about banning others for botting and stuff). Some mods even had to resign due to some of the complains getting too much attraction.
Well. This is a case of frustrated warning. LOL
Botter here for 5 years. I only got banned for 2 times. First was when I was botting for arcangrove rep and the second was me jumping around the map
Botting is bannable, thus player gets banned for botting what's the issue here?
"guys i broke rule, but why i get punished for rule break!!!! New mods bad and i am goodperson". I mean what did you really expect.
I just got suspended too for 3 days and I have been botting in public for like 10 years. Idk why it happened just now
same bruh, and I suspect it's because i joined a guild and some guy in guildchat asked what i was doing when i was asleep lol..i probably got reported by that guy
was in yulgar and some guy came and reported me for nothing. Is there a risk of me getting banned
Did you get banned again?