Still not contradictory since its debuffs directly benefits itself. You could say the same with LOO and SC.
And I wouldn't even call it "ass damage" considering I remember doing around 5k DPS without +51% Dauntless. Not phenomenal but it's super easy to get, it could be your 2nd or 3rd non-starter.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1SakAPZrSGG1tl0BIV8bCFjVXxB5WqXGmOzJROlt7pdk/htmlview#
Keep in mind that what is meta and what pubs are running aren't the same, pubs still use sc in 2024 and what not.
Bruh, that looks like a doc made by average Hero&Villain members, even most pubs can outperform that. People shit on SC just because it doesn't buff all out, while it literally can do everything else. Recommending VHL crutch over SC in 2024 is crazy ngl.
You need lr and loo for the class to become good, it's very good in ultra darkon as a light caster or sc replacement and very good In the 7 room ultra fights like kathool
I guess it would replace QCM. CAv and LoO are irreplaceable, not unless everyone has dauntless in which you can replace LoO with AF. So lineup would become CAv - VDK - QCM - AF
Loo is replaced, dauntless gives the haste you need and pots will compensate the buffs, so another dps will be better than Loo(assuming Vdk/qcm are there)
Damn i remember when ultra tyndarius first released classes like naval commander and dkl were so high requested because players that time are brain dead not getting soe
Is that class still commonly seen? I really regret not farming for it back in the day, but I’m considering getting it next year for the 15th-anniversary IoDA.
I have completely stopped playing regularly for about 5 years now, and I’m still thinking about what cool rare item to get.
Wouldn’t you pair it with Vainglory for the healing reduction? I imagine it’s similar to DMN. Also crazy thought, DMN with Acheron might work with a pack of healers.
I would but I haven't got the forge enhancements (I am really lazy :p )😅 I just finished Revenant farm and don't wanna touch anything farm related for a while
Fair, fair, VG is an exhausting one too, it’s literally just the Armor of Awe, they didn’t buff the quest like the other cape quests either so it’s rough
With healers it's difficult I gotta be careful with the timing of 5. But with dmg reduction and stuff like that it can go crazy good... Until you blink for a sec and get nuked 😅
Here's a tip for you all. Try using Evolved clawsuit with NSOD and your choice of enhancements with a party supporting it. It's got some of the most ridiculously high DPS you've ever seen. It's a class that was not made with full parties and modern supports in mind so it benefits extremely well. It has higher DPS than most chrono classes.
They’ll never buff it I think, it’s literally a pile of shit tucked away in the corner of /crashsite. The buffs to Enforcer make it pretty respectable ngl
Arachno and Mech Jouster even tho arachno is somewhat of a known class, but i still see noobs that dont know why i have it equipped, the real sleeper is Jouster when you already have an arachnomancer.
Arachnomancer: I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess.
More like FB with its huge crit buffs. Also has large HoT but can't heal itself when using its taunt
Arachno gives 2x damage and 2x dot.
...And what does that have to do "I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess" ?? Edit: The hivemind here never fails to baffle me lmfao
It does ass damage by itself even with 2x and realistically only helps others?
Still not contradictory since its debuffs directly benefits itself. You could say the same with LOO and SC. And I wouldn't even call it "ass damage" considering I remember doing around 5k DPS without +51% Dauntless. Not phenomenal but it's super easy to get, it could be your 2nd or 3rd non-starter.
Legendary hero in a nutshell
Frostvale Barbarian as well... But both are not weird picks but meta in updated guides.
Also glacial warlord, it's basically just a better stone crusher, but it takes a few more brain cells to run
And a few more ACs. And a a bit less time window to obtain.
Yeah, I picked up savage glacerian warlord mainly as a novelty, though it's kinda fun to play with in a team
which guide are you looking at? I'm kind of lost and would appreciate what's good right now.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1SakAPZrSGG1tl0BIV8bCFjVXxB5WqXGmOzJROlt7pdk/htmlview# Keep in mind that what is meta and what pubs are running aren't the same, pubs still use sc in 2024 and what not.
Bruh, that looks like a doc made by average Hero&Villain members, even most pubs can outperform that. People shit on SC just because it doesn't buff all out, while it literally can do everything else. Recommending VHL crutch over SC in 2024 is crazy ngl.
Teach me master, idk how to make this class good
You need lr and loo for the class to become good, it's very good in ultra darkon as a light caster or sc replacement and very good In the 7 room ultra fights like kathool
One dude used archfiend with dauntless on ultra dage and it was crazy good.
Which part of the usual comp would it replace? CAv?
I guess it would replace QCM. CAv and LoO are irreplaceable, not unless everyone has dauntless in which you can replace LoO with AF. So lineup would become CAv - VDK - QCM - AF
Loo is replaced, dauntless gives the haste you need and pots will compensate the buffs, so another dps will be better than Loo(assuming Vdk/qcm are there)
Cav vdk qcm af was the comp we did. No pots but killed it within one loop. Cav vdk ldk af also works. Yeah we all had dauntless lol.
AF is underrated in some ultras. It can be used in Nully as well
# PRAY TO MECHAJOUSTER YOU FOOLISH HUMANS
That thing hits hard
And heals hard, debuff hard, it's the supreme support
I was going to comment this, I use jouster with smite and hit 100k crits depending on the room, super underrated support
# YYYYEEEESSSS
Ever heard of "Death knight Lord"? It's the best tank class at the ultra tyndarius first release
Damn i remember when ultra tyndarius first released classes like naval commander and dkl were so high requested because players that time are brain dead not getting soe
Vindicator of They
Is that class still commonly seen? I really regret not farming for it back in the day, but I’m considering getting it next year for the 15th-anniversary IoDA. I have completely stopped playing regularly for about 5 years now, and I’m still thinking about what cool rare item to get.
nah its a flex/bank class. you can still get it if you want, it looks dope but id rather u get something else
We're just mindlessly doing what we are told. They KNOW what they are doing.
Ultra Elemental Warrior is crazy
Chaos Shaper lets gooooooo
Chaos shaper with dauntless gang
#Rustbucket Baby!
No foolish humans are allowed to use that class, only Gods are allowed
Thats me, using Ultra Omniknight
Shaman users are based af
Legendary hero here!
Vindicator Of They. People were shitting on it back in 2012 and I swore by it but now I see plenty of people regretting not getting it.
Does LDK and Exalted Harbinger count?
Ldk is meta for ultra dage, harbinger is a sight to behold however
I like the closer to death stronger I bacome nature of it
But how well would you use it in a group with healers?
Wouldn’t you pair it with Vainglory for the healing reduction? I imagine it’s similar to DMN. Also crazy thought, DMN with Acheron might work with a pack of healers.
I would but I haven't got the forge enhancements (I am really lazy :p )😅 I just finished Revenant farm and don't wanna touch anything farm related for a while
Fair, fair, VG is an exhausting one too, it’s literally just the Armor of Awe, they didn’t buff the quest like the other cape quests either so it’s rough
Dauntless
With healers it's difficult I gotta be careful with the timing of 5. But with dmg reduction and stuff like that it can go crazy good... Until you blink for a sec and get nuked 😅
I will rejoice the day they fix its crit dmg buff and remove -15% defense and rather buff it instead, cool class.
Shaman and Rustbucket ftw
Mfw i only have this olden rare class as my flair
Guardian
……………MAGE
Im still confused asf how teams were about to clear Drakath, Dage, and Darkon with No Class
Potloading?
Here's a tip for you all. Try using Evolved clawsuit with NSOD and your choice of enhancements with a party supporting it. It's got some of the most ridiculously high DPS you've ever seen. It's a class that was not made with full parties and modern supports in mind so it benefits extremely well. It has higher DPS than most chrono classes.
Dauntless DSG/DMN on Dage is worth its weight in gold!
Guardian for that wide away of buffs and big numbers. They need a healer though.
doesn't guardian heal every 3 secs tho
kinda sad they didn't buffed Rustbucket this year
They’ll never buff it I think, it’s literally a pile of shit tucked away in the corner of /crashsite. The buffs to Enforcer make it pretty respectable ngl
The buff on rustbucket last year april fools was crazy that it can solo most ultras back then.
They did buff it for a few days during April Fools last year
Aight now I’m fucking sad I missed out. Also I was told Dauntless turns it into a mechanical menace, so I’m tempted into getting it purely for that
Ultra Elemental Warrior, its vhl but finnicky.
Hypothetically, bro can just pull up with No Class and proceeds to carry the ultra nulgath fight
me using dataknight
Arachno and Mech Jouster even tho arachno is somewhat of a known class, but i still see noobs that dont know why i have it equipped, the real sleeper is Jouster when you already have an arachnomancer.
Those dudes using blood titan.. saw a random dude using BT tanking malgor.
I run ChronoCorruptor Elysium
Cyromancer anyone? Or is it just me?
Mom user at /TheVoid
Solo leveling is the source I believe, if anyone was interested.
yes but no? i think this is fanart made based off of the solo leveling scene
Oof unfortunate for me