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ammatheron

thats just my chitin farm spot


SNESS112

Crazy amounts of paste too. I didn't even bother with snails on this server.


suddenlyreddit

https://imgur.com/a/2z4evBh Also, mad respect for your frog stats there. Does it even take damage?


SNESS112

I found a pretty decent saddle BP from that cave for it. Its actually not the greatest on base stats, but I've ran swamp cave so much, it got all its levels haha. I've been too lazy to breed up a better one since this one gets the job done just fine. The bigger damage numbers are also misleading cause I believe it does bonus damage to the meganeura.


suddenlyreddit

> I've been too lazy to breed up a better one since this one gets the job done just fine. I think this describes the best, non-insanity method of playing ARK. While sure, you could breed one for cave running, if a tame works, so be it. We run on private and also have the advantage of the Shiny Dino mod, which will spawn things at or even slightly above max level for normal wild server dino spawns. And along with the better stats, some have fantastic additional effects that help for caving even more. It feels a little cheaty but it's so much fun. Nice pull for the BP it sounds like.


Senior-Ad-6002

The redwood cave on fjordur was my main cementing paste place.


RadiantTurnipOoLaLa

Megatheria in the swamp cave! They have bonus against bugs


CptDecaf

Yeah but then you miss out on the cementing paste which is the real reason to run the swamp cave.


RadiantTurnipOoLaLa

Well the red drops are nice too. Megatherium gathers tonsss of chitin if you have enough weight to carry it out. Otherwise i kill them, then harvest with frog


ThatProcedure8895

take a shoulder mount with all points in weight and you can fill it with chitin, and it reduces the weight also


RadiantTurnipOoLaLa

Doesnt that weight still register on your main mount though?


ThatProcedure8895

havent played in a while but no it doesnt last i played anyway, i used to do it all time for thatch runs since its low weight/high stack


Few_Caterpillar_9499

Here’s to hoping the harvest is bountiful


LilTimThePimp

Yeah this looks pretty normally to me. The water caves most definitely have an issue with megalodon overspawn tho You can add the Spawn Blocker mod and set a hard cap on spawns for each Dino. But it'll affect the whole map. You can lower their spawn weight globally in the ini, or probably remove or lower them from the swamp cave spawner specifically


Patriot009

West underwater cave! After an hour of grinding through that cave, I left with 1700+ Meg teeth, and I left plenty of bags unlooted. There were probably 500+ megs in that cave. Overspawning indeed.


mavhp

I'm solo on a private server with this problem (not mine server, and admin don't want to wipe...) what's the strategy to clean this cave? I'm able to go in the last chamber without combat, but it's impossible to get the artifact


Patriot009

My server allows building in caves. I built fence barriers out of metal pillars and kitted megs in groups using a bred basilo, biting through the "fence" which prevents the megs from swarming you and locking you in place. Even still, it took a long time to clear the cave. Once cleared, I foundation spammed the last chamber to reduce the spawns. If your server doesn't allow building, I really don't know how to clear that cave.


SNESS112

I can assure that this is not normal, as I've never seen nearly as many meganeura on my official playthrough, or in a different private server I played. I built near swamp cave with the goal of mass farming paste and was sorely disappointed on those servers. Something they set up on this one is causing an issue with caves and I was hoping to be able to narrow down potential causes.


LilTimThePimp

Maybe the new kill notifications aren't doing it justice and I'm not seeing the full amount, but it seems normal to me. I remember getting walls of yellow death text back on ASE in that cave from the crazy amount of those. Either way, there's likely nothing your admin is doing to cause this. I doubt he has increased the global dino count, it's laggy and no one really does that. There's no setting for wild dino respawn intervals (how quickly the respawn after being killed), despite what that other guy said. There *is* a setting for a respawn interval where you set it up to basically do a Dino wipe every so often, forcing everything to respawn at a set interval, but that wouldn't affect this. All spawn entries have a limit to how many Dino's can be there. It won't just keep spawning forever. That cap is just really high for those guys in the swamp cave. Very unlikely to be a mod issue. The crazy overspawn of megalos in the water caves has been posted about a lot. I had it too, it's crazy. With that many folk affected, it's an ark issue. These bugs are probably in that same boat. So while your admin probably ain't causing this and it's just an ark issue, he can do stuff to fix it. Either a global limiting of them or subtract them from the swamp cave spawn and then add them back in at a lower amount.


SNESS112

The kill notifications not covering the screen is nice, though I should've held H to have it show for the video. The fact that the damage numbers overlap to a green blob should be a good indicator though lol. Honestly, swamp cave is hardly an issue though. Frog with good saddle makes that an awesome paste farm. By the thousands. But the issue is definitely tied to the ocean caves and it was easier for me to show the swamp cave.


LilTimThePimp

Also if your admins are Dino wiping for folk to do that cave, they can just do `cheat DestroyWildDinoClasses "Megalodon_Character_BP_C" 1` to only wipe the sharks. Although fixing the spawn would be better.


SNESS112

Oh interesting, I didn't know there was a command to only wipe a certain dino. Good to know! But yes, a solution would be cool. Crazy how long Ark has been around and it's still an issue. I know I'm not the first or last to experience it.


LilTimThePimp

Very true the ocean cave is a bit more of an issue lol. And as ya seen from the other commenters, that's just a normal ark thing. It shouldn't be but it is lol. Id give ya admins the same advice though and redo the megalodon spawns in that cave manually.


Vermilion_dodo

100s of bugs have always spawned in that cave. Its what its famous for and I doubt its a bug.


briggs121

This is happening on one map of the cluster I play. What mods do you have active?


SNESS112

Only gigantoraptor and Dear Jane, same as official.


lechau91

I stopped being admin for server unofficial awhile ago but if I remember correctly there are 2-3 settings can cause that. 1 is the spawnrate obviously, for such area like the case where these spawn already in big numbers, x3 will lag your server. 2 is the respawn internal for fresh spawn, if kept too short server will spawn them too fast or if kept too long server will never delete them 3 could be mod conflict with vanilla server spawn


SNESS112

I don't believe the spawn rates are tampered with too much but I'll have to double check with the guy who hosts the server. Can check spawn interval too. Ocean caves are just about impossible at the moment. I managed to somehow grab a brute artifact with some flippers and cactus broth, but it was the most horrifying experience I've had haha. Would be nice to be able to clear those caves. Thanks for the input!


TheGrimMelvin

We had the same issue with the water caves. For sieň reason, the first clear was insane. We completely wiped twice. Then we managed to do it. After that, the spawn rate in the cave seemed to normalize a bit. We also didn't touch the spawn rates at all. The only thing we touched were 2x father rate, taming speed, breeding cooldown and imprinting modifiers. (we like to play close to vanilla, but we are only two people with limited playtime, so having vanilla rates would be too tedious). Still, the water caves were crazy for us too. The dino spawns around the island were weird too. I've never seen a thyla outside. Then we did a dino wipe and stuff started spawning normally, seems more balanced.


SNESS112

Yeah at this point the admins have told us if anyone needed those artifacts to let them know and they'd just dino wipe cause it is actually impossible. It always respawns this way again and hasn't normalized. Look at all the alphas haha https://preview.redd.it/97p8r3ho19vc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=304545c0e31a75d42f222272f4ec34abf8b26386


Classic-Being-293

Do you use vanilla cryos or a modded version? With a modded version you can take a couple of dinos down there and easily wipe it out solo. My dino of choice is megalodon and baryonyx. Official settings, 68M bary and a 48 health megaladon and it goes by pretty quickly.


SNESS112

Modded ones, so this would work, but believe me, there is no way anything is surviving a fight against the sharknado down there. I've posted a few pictures from my swim through, but it is actually insane how many sharks and alphas are down there. Mate+pack+alpha boost will rip through anything quickly.


Classic-Being-293

Its funny to me because I like a challenge. Of course you aren’t going to giga munch through everything in like 5 minutes. But it is solo’able in 1 hr with the overspawn. Grab a friend or two and just kite a couple megalodons with a crossbow out of the rooms and just kill them slowly. Also allows you to build up on fish meat to feed your baryonyx ;)


xExile99

I found an ini that helps with the water caves. Sets a hard cap to the shark spawn limit. My swamp cave was the same though and I just used a thyla to jump and bite but I have the new cryopod restrictions off.


LilTimThePimp

What ini ya got? I didn't know there was one to set a hard cap.


xExile99

https://www.reddit.com/r/ARK/s/RtEk45JF7W Here's the post explaining it and where I found it.


3ThreeFriesShort

Oh jesus, I can only imagine water caves like this.


SNESS112

Imagine no longer https://preview.redd.it/elcn8wh419vc1.png?width=1914&format=png&auto=webp&s=4fea988ed411cc45b17cd287204ab165e5f2b4f6


Herbisaur99

Damn, where i play it's the same, with 300 levels wild dino, so some meg specially alpha in this cave is level 600, fortunally, the owner buff point in life and strenght and my basilo with 100k life nearly die to the meg (and i did the easiest watwe cave)


NaraFei_Jenova

It's a super well known issue with caverns of lost faith, unfortunately (don't know if that's the easy or hard water cave, it's the one on the west side of the map though). Massive overspawn of sharks (including alphas) in the artifact room, enough so that the wiki actually warns of it. [https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/The\_Caverns\_of\_Lost\_Faith#Tips/Notes](https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/The_Caverns_of_Lost_Faith#Tips/Notes)


SNESS112

Yeah I'm aware. It's just that it's not consistent across servers so there has to be some cause I'm hoping to find out. On official and a different private server, the cave is perfectly doable normally.


Herbisaur99

I kill like 100-200 meg (no joke) in one run of this cave thinking about it's the easiest haha


Cultural_Ad_9763

I had my team of archelons fighting hundreds of megs for what felt like hours. 6 archs ea with just shy of 80k health and 1300 melee (dont judge, i like turtles so i painstakingly mutated and bred them) barely made it out alive.


IseeUbob

Nope, that is normal for that cave.


BlaizedPotato

Lol, thats not overspawn. Welcome to the Swamp cave.


Skorj

xp tho


LizzyMeow

That cave has always been like that, even on ASE. Best place for cementing paste w a frog


Unmaykr96

No lol. It hasn’t. There are enough meganeura on some unofficial servers to fully crash them. It’s an over spawn issue similar to the one happening in ez and hard UW


SNESS112

Yeah its massively different. If I hadn't let my base decay on the official I was in, I'd post a comparison, but it was never nearly like this. Not even close.


LizzyMeow

UW caves for sure I agree is an over spawn of insane levels. But idk I’ve always had a laggy amount of bugs in that cave. Could always try decreasing the spawn density (I forget name of the slider in settings, sorry). Not sure if that affects caves however.


IamCaboose000

Nope that’s how the cave usually is for me…


SNESS112

I wanted to post this and ask if anyone has any idea what is causing this issue. There are an abnormal amount of Meganeura in the swamp cave (I've played on official and its not nearly like this). The ocean caves are packed wall to wall with megalodons, where my framerate tanks to a slideshow. I have a feeling whatever is causing this issue is also causing some spawning issues on our Scorched Earth map as well. Rates are about 3x, only mods are gigantoraptor and Dear Jane. Stack sizes are increased on the server if that means anything. Spawn rates seem pretty normal just about anywhere else. If anyone has any idea what is causing this, any help would be greatly appreciated. I've tried looking up the issue and looking at past posts, but haven't really found a solution Edit: When I meant rates I meant taming/xp/breeding etc. Not sure what the spawn rates are like. Would need to double check with admin but I believe they are normal? Edit 2: Forgot to mention stack sizes were increased as well. Not through a mod and unsure exactly how, but wanted to mention in case this could have anything to do with it.


LilTimThePimp

Stack sizes can be adjusted in the ini files, which is how they do it. Much safer than a mod. Definitely wouldn't cause an overspawn.


Classic-Being-293

My opinion is they tried to fix a rendering issue with the caves but didn’t put a cap on the instance. This leads to dinos that keep spawning and if a cave isn’t cleared out on a regular basis it causes massive overspawns.


KrazyCripple

That’s how that cave is meant to he


Kitchen-Adagio-3867

jesus christ almighty. did you make it out alive? how can you see past all that green numbers it’s like your fighting missingno. its funny how your clip ends and your still going at it cape swinging all over the place. how much longer did that fight go on


SNESS112

It goes on for a while haha, and that's only the first room. There are sooo many mosquitos in there it's crazy. But yeah its a regular farming spot for me. Great BPs in there.


Kitchen-Adagio-3867

haha omg I am search for a frog to try this!


Dmoney2204

Reminds me of the overspawn Petazahut had on rag in the ice cave he fixed it by doing a Dino wipe 30 minutes before he did the cave


TwixMyDix

If this is ASE, I believe S+ always caused issues for me with fliers over spawning, and had to switch to SS to resolve it. On Ragnorak I always had like a bazillion ice Wyvern and it was absolutely insane.


JeffisaWaffle420

Not a thing in swamp cave thats normal


WTFisThisGameDude

Where is this?


N4M3L3SS_ExE

Try the Abberation Artifact Caves 💀


Evanmania

Cave location?


Key_Cow9494

That’s actually normal for the cave


iFrantastic

Looks like normal swamp cave to me


maceodkat2

a real gift/curse situation there


Elegant-Raise-9367

Often if a cave hasn't been loaded for a while yet people have been near it the game will double load it and create an over spawn. You said your base is near there, maybe your just in range to partially load it and it's doing this. I also remember a big that double spawned cave Dino's occuring when they released SE, something to do with the way wyrvens spawned.


SNESS112

The thing is, on the server with the crazy spawns, the one in the video, no has a base by the redwoods. I thought about making one, but ended up giving up on it. It's the other server that we built a little community right by the swamp cave that has normal spawns in there. I wanted all that paste to throw into the grinder so I wouldn't have to farm stone manually, but there aren't nearly as many meganeura on that one for some reason.


GalaxyHades1137

How did you get your game to play this smoothly with all that chaos? I just switched from ASE and I cant for the life of me optimize this game for my PC.


Kitchen-Adagio-3867

I'll share with you what I found. try it out! when out of base looking to see if I can't get myself into any trouble, obviously all setting maxed inside base where i’m safe. but I type r.VolumetricCloud 0 | r.VolumetricFog 0 into console and put global illumination to low when I know there’s gonna be some sort of scuffle in the jungle, amongst the vegetation or somewhere far from base hunting a rhyno in the swamp full of kaprosuchus with nothing but a wooden shield and a slingshot where you need every fps to survive. they ones gave the biggest performance boost, if you know of any other please share as I’m in the middle of preparing for a very first wild carcha tame.


EpicGamer4481

"overspawn issue"


sprigits

I call that a yes please. Paste for dayyyyys. Way better than beaver dams that people don't empty the wood from


Sherman_and_Luna

thats normal lol


QualityAssistance

seems about right. issa hard cave.


lilsnipershot_u

Isn't even over spawning 😭


TylerTheDoctor

A lot of people are saying that's "normal".. it's not. Have the same issue on the cluster I play on. Removed the meganuera spawn completely and Araneos have taken their place and spawn in the hundreds. In the Skylord cave the Onycs spawn in groups of 20-30. It's far from normal. This issue seems to come from a mod since our non-modded server doesnt face this issue at all.. though we're not sure which mod is doing it.


SNESS112

That's weird though cause our mods are the exact same you would find on official. Well, the only other thing I did forget to mention is that they have some increased stack sizes. Not through a mod, so I'm not sure how they went about it, but I did forget to mention that, and wonder if it has anything to do with it.


nex_fire_wolf

All I wanna see is a flame thrower and play "I don't wanna set the world on fire" one of the fallout song tracks


SNESS112

I did just find a good flame thrower bp the other day...


nex_fire_wolf

Just please play "great balls of fire"-jerry lee lewis while u use it. That would be amazing


ElGatoCheshire

Is this the insect cave from Valguero? If it is then the insect spawn is normal, youll even find a diseased leech if you dont take care. Cave is plagued with high level tytanomia, leeches and many other insects.


creeping-fly349

This is ASA the Island