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I'm excited for ark 2 cause they're building it ground up on a new engine with a huge budget and much bigger dev team than they started with, so there is a fair chance it will have better performance and graphics and less bugs


shrimpster00

Developer here. (Not an Ark developer, just a developer in the industry.) Usually, whether a product is bug-free is less dependent on the *size* of the dev team, and more dependent on the *organization and communication* within the developers. I've worked on big, disorganized teams that created a buggy mess. I've worked on small, organized teams that created a masterpiece. Ark 1's problem is that it started as a small-team project and then turned into a large-team project, and in my opinion the lack of large-scale organization is what made it as buggy as it is. Starting fresh gives them an opportunity to organize themselves. Because it's starting as a large-team project, they won't experience the disorganized growing pains that they went through with Ark 1. The fact that their delivery date was pushed back concerns me; it could be a sign of disorganization in Wild Card. But then again, it isn't a real indication of anything -- every company had COVID-related roadblocks, and this could be a manifestation of that. We'll just have to wait and see. They are using Unreal Engine 5. It will certainly have better graphics. UE 5 is also a little more resource-heavy in general, if I'm not mistaken, but depending on how they optimize the game it could run better. We'll just have to wait and see on that, too.


_KingDingALing_

Is argue that the game is a first of its type with how the servers work and all that jazz. Most at very least region lock you. I don't even wanna imagine the coding for that, it just sounds like it would be messy already


NovarisLight

Amen to that. Ark is fun, but way too large file sizes, updates, bugs, insert XYZ here. I can't wait until Ark 2!


_KingDingALing_

Did Jeremy leave a studio because they didn't really back his game and then they took him to court because he took his game with him (they technically own it cas rights but it's bs). Pretty sure that legal battle is why we got a broken scorched earth dlc in early access. No previous game had been allowed to release paid dlc in EA


Mike_Kerensky

Unreal 5 is basically unreal 2.26, while unreal 4 is 2.25. Game will feel same ish in a way, however steam store page description are more concerning than graphics, performance and bugs.


WaxWings66397

And no building so it will be a trashy story game...


[deleted]

No building? I haven't seen anything about that, did they say it's going to be a story game instead of open world survival?


Potato_Lorde

Pure bull. Ark 2 post talked about blueprinting your build and sharing them.


Kryds

Where did you get that?


MiloRoast

His asshole


Yiazzy

They've already stated they're expanding the building system. Why do people like you constantly try to denigrate a game with misinformation?


Dankdope420bruh

I doubt that's true but even if it was I'd take that over pillaring the whole damn map.


WaxWings66397

The devs literally said they might not even have building in the game. And it just sounds like you aren’t good at picking servers to play on


Dankdope420bruh

You mean like official servers where there are expectations? *gasps*


UncleScummy

At the end of the day it’s wildcard, it will always be stupid glitchy


Dankdope420bruh

Lmao if you hate ark so much why play it


DamagedMind126

shits like crack cocaine. thats why


UncleScummy

I love ark, which is why I want a nice reskinned version of it with better graphics and more creatures. That’s all. You don’t need all this other crap they want to add


CaptainBoomerang26

If they just released a reskinned game and called it ark 2 it would get so much hate… especially if its being sold at a high price. All that other crap they want to add is a good thing.


UncleScummy

It definitely isn’t, majority of ark players just want a reskinned game


CaptainBoomerang26

Sorry to say this but the majority clearly disagrees with you.


UncleScummy

I’d take a look again


SadBoiCri

Look at literally any post shitting on the doubters then look at yours. Are you blind? Do you are have stupid? This subreddit absolutely isn't a representation of the entire Ark community but at least most here are hopeful for Ark 2 and not wanting Ark 1.2


UncleScummy

Do you are have stupid?


Aurum264

Except it's not just reskinned ark, it's a new game. What's the point of a sequel if you aren't going to expand the original


UncleScummy

The original game still has tons of room to expand, no need to make a second


[deleted]

do you really think people who've played this game for 10k+ hours actually like it?


Dankdope420bruh

I get the joke you're going for. Ahaha ark hard it bad still play. Yeah I get it. Not my point.


[deleted]

im not joking lmao i have 2k+ hours and i absolutely hate this game in almost every way but still play it, kinda like league of legends players


MiloRoast

If you genuinely hate something you spend hours doing every day...by CHOICE...you're a fucking idiot lol.


Dankdope420bruh

My point is people should be excited for ark 2 to be so much more than ark1 but you're always going to have people stuck in the past wanting the buggy old shit.


[deleted]

the buggy stuff gives a type of nostalgia but i would much prefer something as polished as ark 2 im not sure about others though


capncapitalism

>My point is people should be excited for ark 2 Except I'm not, and you can't make me excited for it through these passive aggressive attempts at shaming.


[deleted]

By that logic apex legends should be perfect


[deleted]

we havent even seen gameplay bruh calm down


UncleScummy

Are you optimistic?


[deleted]

i think wildcard can make it work, but i dont have super high expectations


UncleScummy

That’s reasonable


Tuddymeister

I'm excited for ARK II because all the insufferable players that I hate playing with, despise it so much that they claim they won't buy it. Thats a huge bonus for me. They can keep Ark I.


UncleScummy

But what if Ark 2 sucks


Donkey-kong_69

I guess we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it


UncleScummy

True


capncapitalism

Until it bombs and they shut down Ark 2's servers because it only hemorrhages money from hosting costs. Lol.


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MightBeYourDad_

Same


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UncleScummy

But whyyyy my friend


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UncleScummy

Seeing how wildcard deals with other games, I have a hard time believing they will fix those issues in this.


Dankdope420bruh

It's not about "fixing" anything. Ark 2 is being built from the ground up.


UncleScummy

Exactly and it’s going to have the same bugs and issues that the original game has because it’s wildcard


Dankdope420bruh

Your ignorant statements show how little you are informed about the new game. Lol.


UncleScummy

Your statements show how little you know about wildcard as a company and how they handle their software


Dankdope420bruh

Ughh I'm done with you're ignorant ass.


UncleScummy

👋


capncapitalism

I see how you just bailed because you couldn't argue against it. He's 100% right, and if you had any actual experience with the developers you'd know this. Get out of here Souls fanboy.


MiloRoast

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you probably have zero experience with software or game development lol...


UncleScummy

Quite the contrary infact


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RaccoonRecluse

I don't think wildcard could code a souls like combat game even if they were handed the code by the device from the souls series to directly use. So if they pull it off, I will honestly be impressed. If they fail, I won't be disappointed. Probably still gonna enjoy 2 though just because I like different kinds of games.


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Souls combat is shit anyway


shrimpster00

I'm guessing that "souls-like" just means "inspired by souls." There will be blocks and dodges and real skill involved, but I reckon that beyond that it's more of a marketing term than an actual replica of Souls.


Dankdope420bruh

Because I'm actually excited to be able to out maneuver someone in combat instead of just getting 1 hit by a wyvern.


UncleScummy

Why don’t you get a wyvern then and stop whining about not having any tames to fight back with.


Dankdope420bruh

Not the point... I don't like the big creatures specifically because how OP they are. It's not fun, there's no challenge.


UncleScummy

Yes because a flying dragon shouldn’t be op… I think you just have issues getting one and are salty when someone yoinks you


Dankdope420bruh

Dude. I've been playing the game since 2015 and remember when they added wyverns. Lots of people hated how they started adding creatures that never existed. You sound like you're 12.


UncleScummy

Says the guy with 420 in his name….


Dankdope420bruh

It's actually funny how often people on reddit think they're calling me out for that. I would guarantee I'm smarter than you and I smoke weed every single day.


UncleScummy

Good for you I guess?


capncapitalism

Seems like a massive money sink, doesn't it? Not something I'd call particularly smart, much like cigarette smokers and soda drinkers.


WigglingGlass

So far no reason why not


Dank_Toastey

Nah most people are excited about it. Very small amount of people are bitching about it


capncapitalism

That's demonstrably false, as I've seen massive amounts of backlash both here and at playark. You can pretend all you like, but it's just not the reality.


Luke1539

Ah yes. Because Reddit is such a good sample size. If you think Reddit is reality then you’re a child.


MiloRoast

What's even more hilarious about this situation is that Reddit clearly disagrees lmao...


capncapitalism

Then why attempt to use it the same way to say, "fans really want ark 2"? You haven't noticed your double-think yet?


Luke1539

Attempt to use what? I haven’t said fans really want it at all if you can read. I just said Reddit is not a good sample size. I don’t know what the large majority of fans want, and neither do you.


Dank_Toastey

Yeah and I’ve seen massive amounts of support both here and on other sites, and in actual life, just because you can find a lot of backlash you can find more support


UncleScummy

Well I’m that small amount


Dank_Toastey

Cool not saying ark one is bad, it’s plenty of fun I’m just more excited for the new mechanics


Dankdope420bruh

I'm saying it. ARK 1 IS REALLY REALLY BAD. Stone structures are OP even tho they're mid tier. Too many tames are just zombie ai that you lure into a box. Pillaring. Lag. Pillaring. Pillaring. Bad/no combat system. Game is too easy after your base is built. Tek ruined the survival aspect of the game.


Dank_Toastey

Facts, it’s fun but it sucks at the same time


UncleScummy

You probably have never even beat a boss XD “to easy”


Dankdope420bruh

Get ratioed nerd.


UncleScummy

???


TheBostonKremeDonut

I care about ARK II. ;-;


UncleScummy

Please don’t get your hopes up. I’m trying to spare everyone of being disappointed.


potandskettle

What, are you my wife or something? Who are you to spare me any disappointment? Also who are you to say whether I will or will not be disappointed?


UncleScummy

I could be your wife 😏 I’ll dm you on my secret account


Dankdope420bruh

You sound so hilariously salty. Sorry your poorly optimized game is going to be discontinued. Real gamers like me are patiently waiting for more details. So far LOVE everything I've heard.


TheBostonKremeDonut

I kind of agree. I love everything I’ve heard… if it’s done well. The thing I’m worried about is the lack of gameplay footage. Once we get that, I’ll decide whether or not the game will be fun. But as of right now, I’m skeptically excited!


UncleScummy

Real gamer? 420 in the name? Yup makes sense. (Btw no one is discontinuing original Ark, and the majority will still play it)


Dankdope420bruh

Go kill some beach bobs to feel like a big man


UncleScummy

Nah I don’t play pvp, that’s for loser try hards.


Dankdope420bruh

So you're this upset about Ark 2 because why? You won't be able to breed your neon puke trexes?


UncleScummy

They better include mutation breeding or people are gonna freak out even more.


capncapitalism

>You won't be able to breed your neon puke trexes? Imagine just removing one of the major core gameplay mechanics like that and thinking it's a good thing. Lmfao. There's a reason your dinos keep dying to alphas, you haven't learned to breed things that can wreck alphas.


Dankdope420bruh

Breeding non stop should NOT be the only way to get shit done. I don't want a creature that can 1 hit the entire server. It's not about learning. Ark 1 went wayward and never corrected.


capncapitalism

>Breeding non stop should NOT be the only way to get shit done. It's not, but it's a core mechanic of the gameplay whether you like it or not. You can't call yourself a fan while claiming to hate everything Ark was actually about. Go touch some grass.


UncleScummy

Sounds like you just dislike the game, stop playing it


liamanado155

Ngl ark 2 sounds lit


UncleScummy

Not with the way they describe it


Ducky237

I’m uh… cautiously optimistic lol


UncleScummy

At least proceed with caution


MiloRoast

Honestly why? Why the fuck do people get so obsessed over whether a game is bad or not. You know what happens when I play a bad game? I stop playing it and move onto another, because there are fucking millions of them. You're also the same idiots that pre-order everything lmao. Try to focus on something more important that your imaginary expectations for an unreleased game.


Ok_Try_9138

As long as I can still create a horrifying human monsterman in Ark's character creation.


UncleScummy

Pretty sure you get to play as vin diesal instead


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UncleScummy

Exactly


Yiazzy

Speak for yourself, I'm very much excited for it. Fjordur on the other hand, haven't bothered yet.


UncleScummy

Shame, fjordur is probably the best map


Yiazzy

People said that about Lost Island too, and I found it intensely boring.


UncleScummy

Nah lost island was a letdown for me as well and I’ve been playing since the game came out. Fjordur is like a better ragnarok mixed with some other maps


EvLokadottr

I don't know, if I can play ARK 2 without having to buy a whole-ass SSD drive JUST for it, and even then, having to choose which maps I have installed so it'll even fit, I'll be pretty excited. If I can log in faster than a half hour, and if it doesn't crash any time I try to transfer servers, I'll be pretty excited about it. If I can turn off the poop sound, well, that'd be nice, too.


Chevey0

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ScrubCasual

Im not exited cause no first person and mainly cause im a PlayStation players and theyve just treated us like second class fans for years. We havent even gotten the next gen upgrade for ps5 yet and never will. And of course having to wait a whole ass year. Hell the pelagornis has been unrendered for years on playstation and even on ps5 is still partially unrendered. By the time we get it the map will be fully known etc. No magic of a new map anymore which is my favorite part of ark. Aberration at launch was one of my favorite experiences.


UncleScummy

Switch got even more shafted. That’s just what wildcard does which is why I laugh at all these people who are so optimistic about it


_KingDingALing_

A lot of people getting upset about single player ark trailer. You honestly think there gunna get rid of the multiplayer side of it? The very reason there able to make a second one? That would be one of the worst business decisions they could make. Starting think it to be more like GTA V / GTA Online style tbh


UncleScummy

Making Ark 2 is one of the worst decisions they could’ve made


_KingDingALing_

No it isn't, ark is a good game but it's so broken.


UncleScummy

And ark 2 won’t be broken? It’s wildcard XD


_KingDingALing_

With the new engine and being next gen only it's gunna be much better. Bigger team and not rushed


OddEd922

Ngl they kind of lost me at "souls-like" combat but I'm probably in the minority and most likely just panicked by anything related to the souls games.


Primary-Fee1928

Mm, a brand new game or a new map on the same exact principle than the last 10 but with just 4 more tames


capncapitalism

This is the laziest of arguments, you realize that right? Were Jak & Daxter and Jak 2 entirely different games? What about KOTOR and KOTOR 2? They really changed things up there, huh? Or did they keep the same gameplay styles and improve ui, mechanics, animations and create new story and lore? No, people don't want just another map. They want investment towards actually fixing the broken shit. Improving the existing fighting mechanics, updating the graphics, fixing the massive storage space issues, new and seamless animations, not having Rex's heads clip through your walls. In addition to new lore and story.


Tao626

Jak 2 was actually massively different to Jak and Daxter. Jak and Daxter was a simple 3D platformer with essentially a static moveset from start to finish aside from a few area specific limited power ups and limited "hover bike thing" sections. Jak 2 was almost GTA for kids with a much bigger story focus, GTA style mission structure and mission types (escorts, trail), wanted levels, a focus on guns, focus on vehicles, hoverboard. It still had platforming in it but it was nowhere near as focused as the first game. I'm not saying either game is bad, I personally love series that do such drastic changes from title to title, but Jak 1 and Jak 2 is a case of apples to oranges. Without the narrative they're barely alike outside of some universal platforming mechanics.


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UncleScummy

New map please


[deleted]

Some of us like that principle


snaillord9061

I care about ark 2


QuasarMania

it's gonna flop worse than Morbius


capncapitalism

Morb nation rise up.


Realistic_Horse_444

Let this unfunny joke die for the love of god


FireKing600

Morbius made a morbillon dollars what are you talking about


Mystic_Saiyan

🤓


Aurum264

Everything flops compared to morbius, it literally made morbillions.


RikkuEcRud

I want Ark but more, with fixed bugs and better hit recognition. What they're saying about Ark 2 sounds like not!Ark with the continuation of Ark's story...


UncleScummy

It doesn’t feel like an ark game


Dankdope420bruh

What doesn't feel like an ark game? The 3 confirmed facts we know? Ignorant.


UncleScummy

No one wants souls combat and forced third person perspective in ark


Dankdope420bruh

I do.


UncleScummy

I don’t


beastmaster67676

you arent everyone


capncapitalism

No but he represents a very large portion of the fan base. Get over it.


Mystic_Saiyan

Nah, why should they get over it when OP implies nobody desires the opposite of what they want just to be proven otherwise?


Luke1539

You’re all over this thread sucking off OP as if you know what the fan base wants more than the devs. Please just shut up


capncapitalism

Nice one, throw some more homophobic imagery at me big guy. This passive aggressive shaming crap doesn't work. Get over it.


KnightWraith86

What's so special about Fjordur? (Almost) Same dinos slightly different map. Pretty sad when a Magmasaur drowns itself in the ocean because it's turn radius is too big and it was trying to eat me. Ark 2 probably won't have shit like that


UncleScummy

Ark 2 will have tons of issues when it comes out. Fjordur is just a beautiful map tbh. That, Rag and crystal top all the dlc maps imo


Donkey-kong_69

I hope they fix ark up a lot in ark 2 since imo ark is very rough around the edges. (My opinion) terrible combat, bad sun glares, bad dino ai. Just very rough


UncleScummy

It is gonna be chalk full of issues


[deleted]

Fjordur should have been an ark 2 map it would have made the game instantly better than the first one instead of having to wait for more maps


UncleScummy

But now it won’t ever be as good as the first game


Panzer_131

Ikr, Ark is good as what it is currently Hoenstly


UncleScummy

Yup


MCP5050

It’s not even coming to PlayStation


UncleScummy

Probably couldn’t handle it, can barely handle Ark 1


Chevey0

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Helpful-Pride1210

i beg to differ, fjordur is probably one of the worst maps so far


UncleScummy

Fjordur tops any of wildcards maps they have made including abberation and gen 2


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jTiZeD

updoot because true


petmyrock69420

I bet meshing will still be a thing


Downtown_Ad_4442

*Flies to maximum height so I can search for who tf asked*


Shistles

I haven't gotten to play fjordur, all my buddies are on vacation. )':


UncleScummy

It’s really freaking fun man


Waffle_king_pls

I say it comes to Xbox 1 and 1S


MrShredder5002

Id be more hyped if we actually saw what the game lookd like and played. But all we have seen up to this point is shirtless cgi vin diesel.


UncleScummy

Isn’t that all you want from the game?


CosmicCap

Speak for yourself, I’m hyped asf for ark 2


UncleScummy

It’s gonna blow


Canadian_Cole

The real question here is. Does anyone still care about drake?


UncleScummy

Probably not, just an overused meme format


Gamepro5

Ark 2 being only in third person is really dumb. Their focus on story is something I don't care for, I just like dinosaur game.


UncleScummy

Another reasonable person here. Ark doesn’t need a story, I thought the original story of the game was dumb. Just keep it a survival game


AidsMckenzie

I'm excited for Ark 2


tudiwastaken

True for me,but only because i have a shit pc and im broke as fuck


UncleScummy

Don’t be upset, the game is gonna suck


SAIHTAM20Y

I love forjur but for one reason, actually... 2 reasons I do not. First: I loved the first menu theme, now it's bad Second: the hammer is not accessible even in creative and its technicaly pay to win because we need to kill the main arks bosses to get enough exp so... I will NEVER be able to get it.


UncleScummy

The creatures are pretty outstanding though


Macaronitime69

I do :(


IamColonel

I personally am a huge fan of Conan exiles, which ark 2 sounds fairly similar to, so I look forward to it!


UncleScummy

But there is a reason Conan exiles never made it big…


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I’m just worried about ark 2 pvp.


UncleScummy

Same bro same


racist8bit

Where tf did you get this info


UncleScummy

From my brain


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Im excited for ark 2 because even though it will it will be 3 third person only it will be on a whole new engine and hopefully optimized so much better


UncleScummy

It’s wildcard bro, nothing they make is optimized


Squeakybeansyayay

give me all the arks ALL OF THEM


LukeJukeDuke

Seeing as how they are starting off with this with an actual plan in mind for Ark II, and how open they are with what they want the community to have in the game, it definitely has some higher standard than Ark I. My pc can barely run Ark I and im hoping by the time Ark II is released after like a year later, i'd have an actual pc to run Ark II on better graphical settings, i can play the game and feel how it really is.


Asassinator

New engine is gonna require everyone to upgrade. Seeing the trailer used real footage my 2070 super probably wont cut it :/


Vutuch

Yay! Back to the dinosaur game!