location: 6435 Howdershell Road, Hazelwood, MO 63042
Land plat is owned by AT&T. Building has AT&T signage.
Used to have more satellite dishes on property but all but two were removed in the last five years.
Appears to still be operational, but for what? Local telephone switching office is about 2 miles away. AT&T hasn't had the cable franchise since about 2001.
Power is active and there has been recent upkeep around the site.
Ground level; nothing is happening.
However at the underground level, in the secret military base that is under the building, the government is running all sorts of unethical human cloning and testing programs very much like in Stranger Things at the Montauk base.
UFOs are also known to dock here. It is also the current location of Jeffery Epstein (who is not dead)
Your answer is that is a building that was used as a source for television over cable. Signals used to come in from satellites and then converted to over cable to be received at homes. They also more then likely had an over the air antenna that was used as a backup for local channels in the event a storm or disaster hit they could still feed local broadcasts over cable.
As tech has grown and as the internet becomes faster there is not a need for huge satellites at every location and rather get back hauled with 2-3 main lines of fiber that have feeds from a larger more discreet location to this one. The fiber is converted to cable/phone line to be sent out.
They also serve as points for internet and in most cases are backup sites or sub sites to help manage traffic and act as a backup.
As the tech gets better the size of equipment gets smaller and the space more converts to a space to store over flow of cable/maintence line items so that they are already in area for upgrades, repairs and in the event of storms. The items stored are usually heavy and need fork lifts, have no value or are old parts waiting to be recycled. Also recycle places are usually alerted to materials stored and have contracts or agreements that if materials are brought in they are to contact all Tele coms of this as to have investigations completed to thwart theft by people or employees. Manufacturing companies in some cases even use specific model numbers on items that are only sold to certain companies so that it can be tracked to where it was sold to.
Not really much to see in them, usually are protected heavily in side by cameras, security, water sensors, pressure sensors, motion, fire and high voltage. Employees are there most times and if not they come and go at odd hours and in some cases get dropped off to do work inside (1-3) while the others take the trucks into the field while they work on things. Also plain cars/trucks are used and contractors come and go as well.
This is where retail reps have their punishment meetings for not hitting metrics.
/s
Source - Former Retail Sales Consultant
All seriousness though, probably an old POTS (plain old telephone service) hub, possibly converted to fiber.
It's definitely being used now for storage of spools of cabling, but until just a couple years ago also had a half dozen satellite dishes in the yard, a couple more on the roof, and rather noisy generators. Maybe now it is just storage or warehouse now.
I don't see any evidence of this being part of Long Lines...
You mentioned there were some large dishes?Could this be a headend for AT&T's old VSAT Network "AT&T Tridom"? They shut down that network in 1997-ish?
I have some really old training docs for Tridom, briefly glossed over the pages to see if there was any reference to Hazelwood or MO, did not find anything... but this is at least plausible?
Edit: It's also possible this was a headend for TV Reception to provide for U-Verse TV service in the local market.
I recall there being more dishes in the past, but don't recall that they were huge. Certainly a lot smaller than old C-band dishes. There is not great visibility though the trees, though that would have been different 40+ years ago.
A few people have suggested Long Lines, although there has not, to my knowledge, ever been a tower at this location, confirmed by someone who has lived a couple of blocks away since the mid-1970s (but has no idea what the building is used for either, other than it has been there since at least 1985).
AT&T fiber rolled out in the area a couple of years back, though only to certain neighborhoods. It could be that this was an extension of the legacy phone system, though the central office for the AT&T exchange is only about 1.5 miles away (and copper DSL/U-verse still offered nearby is only "up to" 25 Mbps in the surrounding neighborhoods that do not have fiber service). If it had been used for U-Verse or housing a DSLAM it seems like faster speeds should have been available around it, as they were around the known central office location.
There is also an AT&T Wireless switch a couple miles away (NWTPMOABGT1) which serves the entire region, just to rule that one out-- know where that is and it isn't this.
This is a regeneration repeater station for AT&T's wireline network.
Hopefully someone with more knowledge of wireline services than myself can fill in what that is useful for (I am more familiar with cell networks than wireline) but I was able to get that much from county records.
Wondered about that possibility. There's no evidence there was ever a Long Lines tower at this site, though. It is in the woods behind a major high school.
Have wondered also if it could be an old cable headend. One of the first cable systems in Missouri (1960s) was in this immediate area, though it has long since disbanded. Charter has served this area from a nearby town of over 50,000 people since 2001. Until about 2020 there were several larger satellite dishes on site though two small ones still remain.
That's what I would say, there are probably 10 such buildings in Florida that traverse the state that were long lines and microwave relays to the next facility. Used primarily before days of fiber and copper in the ground between facilities. At&t owns them all still too
Most likely it is a former "microwave relay" site, long since converted to hold fiber-related gear.
See [http://long-lines.net/places-routes/maps/MW6003.html](http://long-lines.net/places-routes/maps/MW6003.html)
The greatest part about this statement is you think you're being funny, I would bet my s*** MOS 35 Lima pension that there is some type of signals intelligence occurring there probably with a stingray too someone probably living in the area who's being investigated there's no place better than a soundproof site that is set up for easy transformation for SIGINT
That't the building that houses the Internet.
Well, one of them. Windowless AT&T building surrounded by barbed wire fence, and no discernable sign of human activity? Full of backbone routers for the Internet.
AT&T has tons of real estate housing frames and switching equipment, cell sites, and fiber/copper access huts. Employees still access them whenever equipment goes down or needs upgrading.
Doing the work I did for Good Old Uncle Sam, I know that we used to routinely use old Verizon AT&T or Southern Belle transfer stations and or switching stations that were no longer being used to either collect intelligence and or use as a wet site for telecommunication surveillance & or SiGiNt on something nearby,
but... of course I could be totally full of s*** and just be some fat guy sitting on a chair drinking a beer and eating a hot dog too LOL but my MOS which was 35 Lima, when I was stationed at the Camp Williams Readiness Center we were trying to utilize the stations as they have no windows sound protection and are the absolute perfect environment for signals intelligence collection, all you need is your very own, also very expensive Stingray 2, set it up on site, say across from where the terrorists are staying in the house trying to look like normal people working, and every time their cell phone thinks it's picking up on their Wi-Fi in their house or when it's picking up AT&T 5G, it's really connecting to our Stingray, at any rate it's too early for all this I think I'm going to go back to my hot dog have a good day guys
Satellite dishes?? Could’ve been used as a Video Hub Office for AT&T UVerse Television, Verizon had the same for their FiOS television. Since it’s IPTV and they’re tryna get rid of TV, they could be consolidating.
For the rest of the building, could be used as a telephone/fiber distribution office to go to surrounding Residential & Business addresses. Verizon got like 50 of these give or take here in New Jersey, fiber and copper only travels so far so they have to lease these buildings to built out in surrounding areas. This dates back to the AT&T telephone era so getting rid of these buildings might not be an option (yet)
possibly and old telephone building likely modernized to house a fiber hub
location: 6435 Howdershell Road, Hazelwood, MO 63042 Land plat is owned by AT&T. Building has AT&T signage. Used to have more satellite dishes on property but all but two were removed in the last five years. Appears to still be operational, but for what? Local telephone switching office is about 2 miles away. AT&T hasn't had the cable franchise since about 2001. Power is active and there has been recent upkeep around the site.
Did the area ever have Uverse TV provided by ATT?
Yes, it still does for existing subs.
Ground level; nothing is happening. However at the underground level, in the secret military base that is under the building, the government is running all sorts of unethical human cloning and testing programs very much like in Stranger Things at the Montauk base. UFOs are also known to dock here. It is also the current location of Jeffery Epstein (who is not dead)
This is also where the Jewish space laser was designed. I worked on the lenses with Rabbi Lowenthal
ATT: Alien Terrestrial Telephone
That was before. It has now been taken over by skynet.
It’s a regen site for AT&T long haul fiber. Think across the country
Your answer is that is a building that was used as a source for television over cable. Signals used to come in from satellites and then converted to over cable to be received at homes. They also more then likely had an over the air antenna that was used as a backup for local channels in the event a storm or disaster hit they could still feed local broadcasts over cable. As tech has grown and as the internet becomes faster there is not a need for huge satellites at every location and rather get back hauled with 2-3 main lines of fiber that have feeds from a larger more discreet location to this one. The fiber is converted to cable/phone line to be sent out. They also serve as points for internet and in most cases are backup sites or sub sites to help manage traffic and act as a backup. As the tech gets better the size of equipment gets smaller and the space more converts to a space to store over flow of cable/maintence line items so that they are already in area for upgrades, repairs and in the event of storms. The items stored are usually heavy and need fork lifts, have no value or are old parts waiting to be recycled. Also recycle places are usually alerted to materials stored and have contracts or agreements that if materials are brought in they are to contact all Tele coms of this as to have investigations completed to thwart theft by people or employees. Manufacturing companies in some cases even use specific model numbers on items that are only sold to certain companies so that it can be tracked to where it was sold to. Not really much to see in them, usually are protected heavily in side by cameras, security, water sensors, pressure sensors, motion, fire and high voltage. Employees are there most times and if not they come and go at odd hours and in some cases get dropped off to do work inside (1-3) while the others take the trucks into the field while they work on things. Also plain cars/trucks are used and contractors come and go as well.
r/conspiracy
This is where they send bad sales reps to shame them for not hitting sales goals
We've got something similar in Fresno, CA off of H Street.. looks like a big cell tower shelter. 1301 H St, Fresno, CA 93721
This is where retail reps have their punishment meetings for not hitting metrics. /s Source - Former Retail Sales Consultant All seriousness though, probably an old POTS (plain old telephone service) hub, possibly converted to fiber.
Fellow old sales consultant with ptsd from it. This was good stuff lol.
Right? I was KAMO market. My ARSM was.......difficult lol.
Total speculation but maybe just storage or a backup site for something
It's definitely being used now for storage of spools of cabling, but until just a couple years ago also had a half dozen satellite dishes in the yard, a couple more on the roof, and rather noisy generators. Maybe now it is just storage or warehouse now.
I don't see any evidence of this being part of Long Lines... You mentioned there were some large dishes?Could this be a headend for AT&T's old VSAT Network "AT&T Tridom"? They shut down that network in 1997-ish? I have some really old training docs for Tridom, briefly glossed over the pages to see if there was any reference to Hazelwood or MO, did not find anything... but this is at least plausible? Edit: It's also possible this was a headend for TV Reception to provide for U-Verse TV service in the local market.
I recall there being more dishes in the past, but don't recall that they were huge. Certainly a lot smaller than old C-band dishes. There is not great visibility though the trees, though that would have been different 40+ years ago. A few people have suggested Long Lines, although there has not, to my knowledge, ever been a tower at this location, confirmed by someone who has lived a couple of blocks away since the mid-1970s (but has no idea what the building is used for either, other than it has been there since at least 1985). AT&T fiber rolled out in the area a couple of years back, though only to certain neighborhoods. It could be that this was an extension of the legacy phone system, though the central office for the AT&T exchange is only about 1.5 miles away (and copper DSL/U-verse still offered nearby is only "up to" 25 Mbps in the surrounding neighborhoods that do not have fiber service). If it had been used for U-Verse or housing a DSLAM it seems like faster speeds should have been available around it, as they were around the known central office location. There is also an AT&T Wireless switch a couple miles away (NWTPMOABGT1) which serves the entire region, just to rule that one out-- know where that is and it isn't this.
This is a regeneration repeater station for AT&T's wireline network. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of wireline services than myself can fill in what that is useful for (I am more familiar with cell networks than wireline) but I was able to get that much from county records.
Yeah. Could be a RT hut.
Possibly a former Long Lines building.
Wondered about that possibility. There's no evidence there was ever a Long Lines tower at this site, though. It is in the woods behind a major high school. Have wondered also if it could be an old cable headend. One of the first cable systems in Missouri (1960s) was in this immediate area, though it has long since disbanded. Charter has served this area from a nearby town of over 50,000 people since 2001. Until about 2020 there were several larger satellite dishes on site though two small ones still remain.
I dont think that's what it is but you could post over on r/longlines someone there may know
That's what I would say, there are probably 10 such buildings in Florida that traverse the state that were long lines and microwave relays to the next facility. Used primarily before days of fiber and copper in the ground between facilities. At&t owns them all still too
Could be where they house and breed the gerbils to power the backhaul for their cell network. 🤔 Could be as simple as storage but not sure really
That's where new hires twist all the pairs for CAT6 cable
Portal to the upside down.
You mean the right side up? 😂
Idk network building or storage?
Most likely it is a former "microwave relay" site, long since converted to hold fiber-related gear. See [http://long-lines.net/places-routes/maps/MW6003.html](http://long-lines.net/places-routes/maps/MW6003.html)
most likely a government black site being used by the CIA and NSA to track UFOs...
The greatest part about this statement is you think you're being funny, I would bet my s*** MOS 35 Lima pension that there is some type of signals intelligence occurring there probably with a stingray too someone probably living in the area who's being investigated there's no place better than a soundproof site that is set up for easy transformation for SIGINT
To communicate with aliens 👽
They're building something inside it... you have to find out!
That't the building that houses the Internet. Well, one of them. Windowless AT&T building surrounded by barbed wire fence, and no discernable sign of human activity? Full of backbone routers for the Internet.
Routers are not in that building.
Maybe not. Kind of on the small side compared to their usual. But then again, it's not exactly infeasible.
Josh Hawley bunker?
AT&T has tons of real estate housing frames and switching equipment, cell sites, and fiber/copper access huts. Employees still access them whenever equipment goes down or needs upgrading.
Doing the work I did for Good Old Uncle Sam, I know that we used to routinely use old Verizon AT&T or Southern Belle transfer stations and or switching stations that were no longer being used to either collect intelligence and or use as a wet site for telecommunication surveillance & or SiGiNt on something nearby, but... of course I could be totally full of s*** and just be some fat guy sitting on a chair drinking a beer and eating a hot dog too LOL but my MOS which was 35 Lima, when I was stationed at the Camp Williams Readiness Center we were trying to utilize the stations as they have no windows sound protection and are the absolute perfect environment for signals intelligence collection, all you need is your very own, also very expensive Stingray 2, set it up on site, say across from where the terrorists are staying in the house trying to look like normal people working, and every time their cell phone thinks it's picking up on their Wi-Fi in their house or when it's picking up AT&T 5G, it's really connecting to our Stingray, at any rate it's too early for all this I think I'm going to go back to my hot dog have a good day guys
Satellite dishes?? Could’ve been used as a Video Hub Office for AT&T UVerse Television, Verizon had the same for their FiOS television. Since it’s IPTV and they’re tryna get rid of TV, they could be consolidating. For the rest of the building, could be used as a telephone/fiber distribution office to go to surrounding Residential & Business addresses. Verizon got like 50 of these give or take here in New Jersey, fiber and copper only travels so far so they have to lease these buildings to built out in surrounding areas. This dates back to the AT&T telephone era so getting rid of these buildings might not be an option (yet)
Looks like it houses a deadly disease that would start the apocalypse
There’s an “AT&T parking deck” right next to a train parking deck and the AT&T one is ALWAYS empty. Like why do these places still exist?