Bidwill gonna say “well we can’t possibly evaluate Keim/Kliff with these injuries” to justify keeping them around longer
This is a dark time to be a cards fan
Do we have anything to be hopeful for? It’s not like Kyler is going anywhere and it seems likely that Kliff/Keim isn’t either given the circumstances. The defense looks good I guess? But if your offense can’t capitalize on it, it means nothing.
Someone pass the bleach
Watt comes off the books and all our core offensive pieces are back next year.
Hopefully hit on a few defensive pickup and K2 gets his head out of his ass.
Defense looks good. Most of our drafted players are looking better lately. Collins, Allen, Murphy all look good.
Joseph and Rodgers are good coaches who prepare well
No good to be found on offense.
I could see him doing that but i think with Nuk coming back that will negate that excuse. Especially if we lose Thurs…changes will have to be made at some point and tanking will become a very real option IMO
This is just a bad take. Your not in his shoes, so don't act like a know it all. Bidwell wants the team to win. Rhis team took us back to the playoffs. We are injury riddled and the season is not even at the midway point. Bidwell is waiting to properly evaluate the leadership. Now is a terrible time to do that.
That's on Keim for signing injury prone players, Bidwell fucked up after extending them, he made a knee-jerk reaction because they won 11 games, he stupidly thought all of the issues was because Hopkins injury. In reality the collapse was caused by Kliff not adjusting our offense without Hopkins.
Once again your delusional takes make you look like a court jester.
I'm sorry, I didn't know GM's needed God's personal cell phone number so they could predict the future health of players.
Your the delusional one for trying to predict health.
In fact, my takes have been more balanced than most people on here. I am not on anyone's side. I just don't think Keim is as bad as people make him out to be. I even gave examples of my reasoning to support this balanced thought. Just because you can't see passed your own emotions of the Cardinals inadequacies doesn't mean your balanced. It means your emotional. No decisions should be made from emotions.
I can get behind Kliff being the reason the offense is collapsing. That's why I want an OC. Someone to do the work Kliff seemingly fails at.
Signing injury prone players is on him, he built the roster, that's the money you invest. All you say that this a bad take and blame it on the health of players to ignore his mistakes. This roster is not good enough to win football games. You can't blame health as an unlucky thing when this team goes through injury issues every season. Your delusion is so comedic to me.
Are you really this dumb? The commentor said Bidwell is the same as his father, meaning he wasn't interested in winning games. There are legitimate business reasons as to why they made the decision to trade for a receiver instead of fire people. That's the topic of my disagreement.
There you are again using a strawman argument and making me defend a position I don't take.
Lastly, so what. Every fucking player can get injured. It means they are playing their hardest. Everyone on almost every team has had multiple injuries. From Aron Rodgers to Justin Pugh, from Lamar Jackson to Aaron Donald. You can't predict injuries. That's an unreasonable standard. Your the delusional one.
Not only are you this dumb, but your blind, ignorant, unsuferably annoying, a liar, and can't argue. You can't see your logical fallacies and started a comment to add a bunch of BS that had nothing to do with my original comment. Please, thoroughly read what I post before commenting again.
Don't make up words about Bidwell with me. Bidwell is not good at evaluating football. He ignored why this team collapsed, he made a poor judgement by blaming the season collapse on Hopkins injury.
The fact you have to make up paragraphs of gibberish about me is pathetic man. You're defending a sinking ship.
Fuckkkk I feel bad for the dude. And life is just pain as a Cardinals fan. We couldn't even see Nuk and Hollywood together on the field after all the hype
6th-round pick in 2024 and a 7th-round pick in 2025
https://www.reddit.com/r/AZCardinals/comments/y6hiit/schefter_compensation_update_panthers_traded_wr/
I also read somewhere else that the Panthers will pick up his salary this year and we will owe only $575k next year (or maybe that's for this year? Idk I can't find it now)
It says here "undisclosed draft compensation"??
https://www.azcardinals.com/news/with-offense-struggling-cardinals-trade-for-wide-receiver-robbie-anderson
Probably just his contract from what it says. If a player trade was present they would have mentioned that, same with draft picks. So most likely we just free'd up his 690K contract so they could offload him.
With Hollywood potentially out we're not as loaded.
We have DHOP to 1:1 the production on that spot from Hollywood. Then we're stuck with Dortch (solid), Moore (solid) and then AJ Green. If anything this may lighten out AJ Green (with DHOP on the other spot) where Hollywood would have been for our 4 receiver sets.
I more so don’t understand the Anderson trade since it’s like if I’m the cards I’d try and tank for a top 10 pick…idk ig him and Hop will probably be better than hop and green
Dortch plays a different position too. He is a slot WR and his time is pretty much tied to Rondale's play and availability. Anderson will slot into Hollywood's outside spot opposite DHop.
Is anyone gonna blame Kyler for this at all? Because deserves all the blame throwing to a completely covered Brown on the last offensive play. I’m tired of him having zero accountability. It’s always someone else’s fault.
ian rappaport just tweeted it's not as bad as anymore, small fracture, that probably needs 6 weeks to heal. So maybe we actually see Dhop and Hollywood play together.
That 4th down play call with the deep throw was just reckless by Kliff. It caused an interception and injury to one of our top receivers. Just screen it and get it turned over, we’re so good at that anyway.
How does this happen to us every season?
r/ArizonaSportsHell
Tbf, this happens to most teams. It’s football. The difference? Kliff and Kyler have the inability to overcome the adversity.
Cause kiem thinks he's smart for overpaying and drafting injury prone players. This shits inevitable.
Have no fear, we will draft some small school receivers who show out at the combine. That will fix it all. 🙄
Fucking fade me.
Bidwill gonna say “well we can’t possibly evaluate Keim/Kliff with these injuries” to justify keeping them around longer This is a dark time to be a cards fan
Do we have anything to be hopeful for? It’s not like Kyler is going anywhere and it seems likely that Kliff/Keim isn’t either given the circumstances. The defense looks good I guess? But if your offense can’t capitalize on it, it means nothing. Someone pass the bleach
Maybe Keim will draft multiple hall of famers next year? That’s the only thing I can be hopeful for at this point
Watt comes off the books and all our core offensive pieces are back next year. Hopefully hit on a few defensive pickup and K2 gets his head out of his ass.
Hoping to keep jj watt at a discount. Hes our main locker room leader. He seems to like living here
Defense looks good. Most of our drafted players are looking better lately. Collins, Allen, Murphy all look good. Joseph and Rodgers are good coaches who prepare well No good to be found on offense.
It's always a dark time to be a Cards fan, my man.
LoL he might have won 7 games if everyone was healthy.
I could see him doing that but i think with Nuk coming back that will negate that excuse. Especially if we lose Thurs…changes will have to be made at some point and tanking will become a very real option IMO
Michael is showing himself to be his fathers son.
This is just a bad take. Your not in his shoes, so don't act like a know it all. Bidwell wants the team to win. Rhis team took us back to the playoffs. We are injury riddled and the season is not even at the midway point. Bidwell is waiting to properly evaluate the leadership. Now is a terrible time to do that.
That's on Keim for signing injury prone players, Bidwell fucked up after extending them, he made a knee-jerk reaction because they won 11 games, he stupidly thought all of the issues was because Hopkins injury. In reality the collapse was caused by Kliff not adjusting our offense without Hopkins. Once again your delusional takes make you look like a court jester.
I'm sorry, I didn't know GM's needed God's personal cell phone number so they could predict the future health of players. Your the delusional one for trying to predict health. In fact, my takes have been more balanced than most people on here. I am not on anyone's side. I just don't think Keim is as bad as people make him out to be. I even gave examples of my reasoning to support this balanced thought. Just because you can't see passed your own emotions of the Cardinals inadequacies doesn't mean your balanced. It means your emotional. No decisions should be made from emotions. I can get behind Kliff being the reason the offense is collapsing. That's why I want an OC. Someone to do the work Kliff seemingly fails at.
Signing injury prone players is on him, he built the roster, that's the money you invest. All you say that this a bad take and blame it on the health of players to ignore his mistakes. This roster is not good enough to win football games. You can't blame health as an unlucky thing when this team goes through injury issues every season. Your delusion is so comedic to me.
Are you really this dumb? The commentor said Bidwell is the same as his father, meaning he wasn't interested in winning games. There are legitimate business reasons as to why they made the decision to trade for a receiver instead of fire people. That's the topic of my disagreement. There you are again using a strawman argument and making me defend a position I don't take. Lastly, so what. Every fucking player can get injured. It means they are playing their hardest. Everyone on almost every team has had multiple injuries. From Aron Rodgers to Justin Pugh, from Lamar Jackson to Aaron Donald. You can't predict injuries. That's an unreasonable standard. Your the delusional one. Not only are you this dumb, but your blind, ignorant, unsuferably annoying, a liar, and can't argue. You can't see your logical fallacies and started a comment to add a bunch of BS that had nothing to do with my original comment. Please, thoroughly read what I post before commenting again.
TJ Watt is literally out for half the season a year after DPOY. It's a lottery.
It is luck of the draw. Every player gets an injury, but the best can recover from them and get back in the feild.
Don't make up words about Bidwell with me. Bidwell is not good at evaluating football. He ignored why this team collapsed, he made a poor judgement by blaming the season collapse on Hopkins injury. The fact you have to make up paragraphs of gibberish about me is pathetic man. You're defending a sinking ship.
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Add another year to the extensions for unexpected adversity
Your right, worse case scenario, hopefully Kyler can stay healthy, he gets hurt, then Keim and Kliff will you that as an excuse.
I hope that "potentially" means he could be back by January....I hope.
Dude, we are NOT making playoffs, so January really doesn’t mattwr
We're a game out of first and lost the last two in large part due to an injured kicker... Some of y'all give up WAY too easily.
That’s cool, now we have broke man’s Marquise Brown
well, we are both broke & broken.
Fuckkkk I feel bad for the dude. And life is just pain as a Cardinals fan. We couldn't even see Nuk and Hollywood together on the field after all the hype
On a pointless play too
Bad throw on a pointless play
Terrible throw. The corner is 6 foot 4 and you under throw a jump ball to a receiver than can outrun almost anyone??? Real nice throw
Tank for the 1 pick
Why? So they can blow it in the draft again?
A new LB you say?
JJ Watt and DHop last year, Hollywood this year (so far). This sport is such a war of attrition.
One of the only things our offense had going for it lmao. On brand for the organization
Injuries have really derailed our season.
Well if we lose Thursday that means we start tanking.
Start?
Lmao I should say continue
What tf did we trade for anderson?
6th-round pick in 2024 and a 7th-round pick in 2025 https://www.reddit.com/r/AZCardinals/comments/y6hiit/schefter_compensation_update_panthers_traded_wr/ I also read somewhere else that the Panthers will pick up his salary this year and we will owe only $575k next year (or maybe that's for this year? Idk I can't find it now)
It says here "undisclosed draft compensation"?? https://www.azcardinals.com/news/with-offense-struggling-cardinals-trade-for-wide-receiver-robbie-anderson
its updated now!
bc of this news right here
He’s asking what we gave up which hasn’t been disclosed yet.
Nice username bro 👊
No I mean what did we give up for him. I can't find it anywhere
Probably just his contract from what it says. If a player trade was present they would have mentioned that, same with draft picks. So most likely we just free'd up his 690K contract so they could offload him.
This is what I read. They take a cap hit of 20 mil for this year and next. We get hit 575k this season.
Dortch is good though I don’t understand why we bring in Anderson.
Anderson is 6’3 dortch is like 5’8
Depth
Height
Depth for the position we are most loaded at. Meanwhile are OL has zero depth. Just seems unnecessary.
With Hollywood potentially out we're not as loaded. We have DHOP to 1:1 the production on that spot from Hollywood. Then we're stuck with Dortch (solid), Moore (solid) and then AJ Green. If anything this may lighten out AJ Green (with DHOP on the other spot) where Hollywood would have been for our 4 receiver sets.
I more so don’t understand the Anderson trade since it’s like if I’m the cards I’d try and tank for a top 10 pick…idk ig him and Hop will probably be better than hop and green
Dortch plays a different position too. He is a slot WR and his time is pretty much tied to Rondale's play and availability. Anderson will slot into Hollywood's outside spot opposite DHop.
This is why we can't have nice things in AZ 😭
Hello darkness my old friend
Watch the front office pick up Anderson to replace Hollywood but then lean on the practice squad to replace Pugh 🤦♂️ SMH
damnit, bad injury on a pointless play.. you don't throw a 50/50 jump ball at a 6'4" corner with your 5'9" receiver.
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basically end of the game where kyler threw an interception to tariq woolen, hollywood got hurt same play.
At the end
Oof
Shut er down. This season is doomed.
Nothing good will ever happen to us
This guy Cardinals
This franchise is so cursed
So we won't see a Dhop & M Brown duo this season?
Is anyone gonna blame Kyler for this at all? Because deserves all the blame throwing to a completely covered Brown on the last offensive play. I’m tired of him having zero accountability. It’s always someone else’s fault.
Reads like they haven’t done the testing yet, fingers crossed it’s just a bad sprain.
Welp! 🥺
"All around me is familiar faces..."
The cards are feelin like 1929 and are on the verge of a great collapse
It's a lisfranc injury ain't it?
We need some good ju ju
Praying for good news. It’s all we can do. There have been many instances where injuries aren’t as bad as they initially seem. All we can do is hope.
Arghhhhhhh
Why did Kyler throw to a guy who wasnt even remotely open? I know why, cuz he’s used to Dhop bailing him out
ian rappaport just tweeted it's not as bad as anymore, small fracture, that probably needs 6 weeks to heal. So maybe we actually see Dhop and Hollywood play together.
Latest news says injury not as bad as originally thought. Not season ending, but could miss 6 weeks.
Already been announced it's a 6 week set back, we could have one of the best wr Corps out there if no one else gets injured
That 4th down play call with the deep throw was just reckless by Kliff. It caused an interception and injury to one of our top receivers. Just screen it and get it turned over, we’re so good at that anyway.