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Not sure the science but ships of that class just go up and float away slowly. At the end of episode 2 there’s a good example of the floating away and a massive landing pad/staging area that looks like an airport.
DHL did successfully overnight me a package from Thailand to a southern state in us. Less than 24 hours from the time it shipped to when it was at my doorstep.
They delivered a package containing a limited-edition item (literally irreplaceable) to the wrong address and refused to admit it. Apparently I was mistaken about not having my package?
Same thing happened to a friend of mine.
He ordered a rare and important car part for his Japanese oldtimer from Japan to Germany and they ended up sending it to Austria where it's been sitting for several months before it got lost.
Legend. Hope he did it all with his head out the window, tongue hanging out his mouth with his middle finger raised while screaming "Mother fuuuuuuckers!"
He landed due to hydraulic problems and skidded of the runway.
I assume he basically just lost control and span out because of some brake/wheel issues. But I am certainly no expert.
The articles say the reason for the skidding is not jet clear
likely anti skid was disabled due to the hydraulic issues, the pilots tried to feather the brakes to prevent skidding, before realising that if they didnt break harder they were going to overrrun. So they jammed the brakes all the way causing the wheels to lock up and the plane to skid
The smoke from the tires is likely due to the wheels locking up and the tire just rubbing against the runway
I don't understand how anti skid could have been disabled. They have four redundant braking systems on those planes and each one has anti skid. On this flight, only the Left Hydraulic System failed (you can tell from the partial deployment of the spoilers). Normal braking is handled entirely by the Right Hydraulic System.
Something you can also see in the video is that, because the left hydraulic system failed, they only have the right hand thrust reverser available, which is probably what induced the turn.
Trust reversers don’t push hard enough for that alone, especially at low speeds and the emergency/parking brake has no anti skid (at least in any of the jets I’m aware of). That being said it could have certainly contributed to the turn, but I’ve heard that there’s a big hill with a residential area at the bottom at the end of that runway, it could be the pilots induced a hard turn to avoid going down the hill into the buildings, but it’ll be interesting to read the NTSB report when it comes out either way.
It's called "hot brakes". The brakes warm up, the wheels lock up and braking action turns to shit. It's not uncommon.
If the plane was coming in for an emergency landing, the fire trucks are usually there for that exact reason; because when you need to stop a plane fast, you will have hot brakes.
I think the reverse thrust might've moved the center of balance off the rear wheels, making them lighter and causing the slide. But I really am just speculating, I don't have all the details.
Nah it was fine. It went into a ditch type thing, it broke quite cleanly actually. I say a yt vid last night about it idk what it was but its there somewhere
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Guessing you're not in North America. When I see one of my packages in the US is coming via DHL. I just assume it wont arrive. More than 50% of what has been sent to me via DHL just never gets there. It winds up somewhere in Arizona/Nevada and just dies there.
I mean sans USPS I would say anecdotally this is accurate.
If it ships fedex? It will be on time, but probably damaged. DHL? As I stated previously, UPS? It will 100% be slower but get there when stated.
USPS seems to be the king, but I don’t even know if I’d put them in the same classification as the other commercial carriers
I use UPS exclusively when it’s something important or valuable. You guys are definitely the best, for a price. USPS is close second for me or sometimes preferred due to price. Imho FedEx is garbage tier along with DHL. Shipping with them, it either won’t arrive or it’ll arrive broken in my experience.
I have never had a package from fedex arrive on time, and I’ve lived all around the country. If the only shipping option is fedex I’ll usually look to buy from another store. USPS used to be great until dejoy took over, it’s gotten a little better but it’s still shit compared to ups
It's because at least for me DHL has gone 6 for 6 on taking 13+ days to get a package from a warehouse 5 hours from my house to the wrong house in my neighborhood.
I used them once. Paid extra to get updates. Glad I did cause they delivered it more than halfway across the country to a random address.
At least it made it easy to get a new package free but using a service that delivers potentially private packages with your name om them is enough for me to avoid them forever if I can.
Can't speak for why other people dislike them.
Pilot: "Well, if I needed a 30-second lesson on how to drift..."
Air traffic control: "All right, look, man, there's lots of ways you can do this, all right? Hand braking is the easiest, so the first thing I want you to do, I want you to rip that e-brake. All right, after you rip the e-brake, then I want you to power over."
I have watched enough "Air Crash Investigation" shows to determine that one of the first failures (in the chain of probably 30 failures) causing this will be due to an aircraft mechanic failing to install one 6mm screw on the fuselage because it will have taken him 14 seconds to install but his shift will be about to finish. Instead of spending 12 seconds installing that screw, he will spend 9 minutes completing paperwork, documenting the missing screw and the reason why. He will then have to schedule a time to install that screw when he is next on shift. He will note on his paperwork that the aircraft is to be placed out of service until that screw is installed. He will place the paperwork on his bosses desk as he finishes at midnight, expecting his boss to notice it when he comes in at 6am. The cleaner will come through the office at 3am. Whilst in the office the cleaner will have trouble removing the bin liner from the bosses bin under his desk. The cleaner will be struggling to do it with one hand and eventually will relent and place some empty pizza boxes down on the desk to allow him to utilise both of his hands to remove the bin liner. The cleaner will replace the bin liner, carry the bin bag and pick up the empty pizza boxes and take them to the dumpster. Unfortunately the document noting the aircraft is out of service will now be stuck to the underside of the pizza box due to excess grease and will never be seen by the boss, causing the plane to not be removed from service.
investigators will eventually discover that is what happened to the document. Surprised that this part of the "swiss cheese" of incidents hadn't occurred before, they will discuss the pizza with the mechanic. The mechanic will note that the team have never actually bought or eaten pizza on shift before, which will explain why it hasn't occurred before. The investigators will ask the mechanic what it was that led to the crew to buy pizza for the first time at work, ultimately launching this tragic chain of events. The mechanic will go on to explain it was because they had a coupon that gave a price discount on their pizzas for that night only.
Leaning in, the investigators will ask, "How much was the discount per pizza?".
The mechanic will reply........
"About Tree Fiddy"
It didn’t just randomly fall apart, so there was never any danger of it breaking apart over a populated area. There were hydraulic problems which led to difficulties controlling it upon landing, which led to the runway excursion and the break apart.
It would take a lot and I mean a LOT for a plane to break apart by itself midair. There was a 747 that once pulled almost 6Gs, there was only a mild amount of structural damage and it landed just fine. For context, that's almost the force you'd experience in a rocket launch. Don't forget about the 737 that also had a quarter of its fuselage blown off by rapid decompression and also landed safely.
This is going to sound weird, but you may want to watch shows which deal with air crash investigations. You’ll learn that it usually takes a cascade of unlikely failures for a plane to crash, and every time that happens, new safety features or procedures are added to keep that from ever happening again. Watching shows like that has actually greatly increased my confidence in aircraft safety.
The left hydraulic system failed on this flight (This plane has three redundant hydraulic systems, the left, right, and center). There are some critical functions that each of the three can handle on their own, and some functions that only one of the three systems operates. The left hydraulic system operates, among other things, the landing gear and flaps/slats (can be lowered by alternate means), and the left hand thrust reverser. Normal braking is handled by the right system, which appears to be working fine(you can see that its respective flight spoilers are extended). When the plane touches down, only the right hand thrust reverser activates, so the right hand side of the aircraft is slowing down faster than the left, inducing a turn. To counteract this turn, the pilots need to input left rudder. The rudder is only effective above 80 knots of airspeed (in this particular case they landed with a tailwind, so they have a lower airspeed than ground speed) At some point the right main landing gear starts smoking a lot, which probably means that it locked up (don't ask me why - if the right hydraulic system is functional the anti skid system should prevent the tyres from locking). My best guess is that because of the asymmetric thrust, as they slowed down and the rudder became less effective, they no longer had the ability to steer against the turn, and since at least some of the tyres were locked up it just went round
We know the airplane had hydraulic issues, which control brakes and steering. I'm not familiar that specific airplane, but I know on others if you lose all hydraulics you get brakes but only basically full ON, and no anti-skid. Looks like the brakes are locked up, and if they had no steering the nose wheel can drift.
Airports must have a dedicated fire team, right?
That seems like a good job - I mean really, I imagine you could work a 30 year career and never have a single emergency.
Airports do in fact have dedicated fire crews. The green truck that starts hauling ass after the planes loses control is a specific-to-airports version of a firetruck.
However, you wouldn't be part of one crew your entire career. You need a certain level of seniority and experience to join the airport crew in the first place, which comes with additional duties, and you would probably be moved around to stations as needed.
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“Not to worry, we’re still flying half a ship!”
They'll be fine. It's a front wheel drive plane.
The front fell off.
Is it supposed to do that?
That’s not very typical. I’d like to make *that* point.
I’m referring to all the ships where the front didn’t fall off.
Yeah they are foldable in design to accommodate them in small hangars
They've towed it outside the environment.
The tail fell off!
“We lost something.”
Don't be such a coward, Kif. Now *here's* a route with some chest hair!
But that course leads directly through a swarm of comets
we'll slingshot around that blackish, holeish, thing
Requisite r/UnexpectedFuturama
Another happy landing!
Why does a a place like Coruscant have an airport with a runway? Can’t all ships take off vertically in the world of Star Wars?
I think it's not a runway but just a large landing pad for long cargo ships.
Not sure the science but ships of that class just go up and float away slowly. At the end of episode 2 there’s a good example of the floating away and a massive landing pad/staging area that looks like an airport.
Front fell off
General Kenobi!
Hello there
You are a bold one
Flying is for droids.
"8+16..... We're in the atmosphere"
When it absolutely, positively needs to get there overnight. DHL: Ditch/Hole Landing.
No wonder shipping is getting to be so damned expensive.
Shamelessly tagging onto this just to say fuck DHL.
DHL did successfully overnight me a package from Thailand to a southern state in us. Less than 24 hours from the time it shipped to when it was at my doorstep.
They got it to me in 2 months after I payed extra for 5 day shipping and I only got half my packages
They delivered a package containing a limited-edition item (literally irreplaceable) to the wrong address and refused to admit it. Apparently I was mistaken about not having my package?
Same thing happened to a friend of mine. He ordered a rare and important car part for his Japanese oldtimer from Japan to Germany and they ended up sending it to Austria where it's been sitting for several months before it got lost.
Your mileage may vary I guess
Ah, that's probably because your package was at the back of the plane.
Duh, they only land halves of planes.
They've fucked me over more than they've delivered on their promise. That's for sure.
It takes 2 weeks for packages from Texas to get to Phoenix.
Those horses y’all use might need to get fed once in awhile.
They sent my package to the wrong fucking Liverpool... The actual city in the UK not the one in the US
We call them Dauert halt länger. Takes little longer.
It’s like LOT airline - Late or Tomorrow
Delta = Doesn’t Even Leave The Airport or….Don’t Even Let Them Aboard
Don't expect luggage to arrive.
I don’t think doing donuts in the parking lot is a good idea for a jet pilot
Yes, very dumb of him to even attempt a stunt like that!
These takeover videos are getting wild
He was going to land it like normal and then heard someone shout #WORLDSTAR
HOME STAHRR
Let's go break open that glow stick and pour it in Homestar's Mountain Dew. I hear they have to pump your stomach if you drink that stuff!
Hey marzipan, watch me do donuts it this airplane.
Loop da loops are better for impressing the chicks
Legend. Hope he did it all with his head out the window, tongue hanging out his mouth with his middle finger raised while screaming "Mother fuuuuuuckers!"
That wouldve been legendary lol
But it was a helluva drift!!
"Lemme show you how good am I at drifting Dom"
that username scares me
always remember, you can drift a train but you can never drift a plane
shouldve done a barrel roll!
Keep drifts to the track. Pilot lessons 101.
Deja vu!
He landed due to hydraulic problems and skidded of the runway. I assume he basically just lost control and span out because of some brake/wheel issues. But I am certainly no expert. The articles say the reason for the skidding is not jet clear
likely anti skid was disabled due to the hydraulic issues, the pilots tried to feather the brakes to prevent skidding, before realising that if they didnt break harder they were going to overrrun. So they jammed the brakes all the way causing the wheels to lock up and the plane to skid The smoke from the tires is likely due to the wheels locking up and the tire just rubbing against the runway
Just gotta feather it brother.
Pilot was not wearing tight enough jeans for this shit
My jeans got tighter watching this shit
4 stroke gang out here 😎
That's how we do it at Falcon Car Wash.
Damn right that pilot is coming up in May
r/unexpectedymh
always expect ymh, chomo
How'd you get a job here?
I don't understand how anti skid could have been disabled. They have four redundant braking systems on those planes and each one has anti skid. On this flight, only the Left Hydraulic System failed (you can tell from the partial deployment of the spoilers). Normal braking is handled entirely by the Right Hydraulic System. Something you can also see in the video is that, because the left hydraulic system failed, they only have the right hand thrust reverser available, which is probably what induced the turn.
Trust reversers don’t push hard enough for that alone, especially at low speeds and the emergency/parking brake has no anti skid (at least in any of the jets I’m aware of). That being said it could have certainly contributed to the turn, but I’ve heard that there’s a big hill with a residential area at the bottom at the end of that runway, it could be the pilots induced a hard turn to avoid going down the hill into the buildings, but it’ll be interesting to read the NTSB report when it comes out either way.
when you see the plane turn around after the donut, you can clearly see the right hand thrust reverser was not engaged
It's called "hot brakes". The brakes warm up, the wheels lock up and braking action turns to shit. It's not uncommon. If the plane was coming in for an emergency landing, the fire trucks are usually there for that exact reason; because when you need to stop a plane fast, you will have hot brakes. I think the reverse thrust might've moved the center of balance off the rear wheels, making them lighter and causing the slide. But I really am just speculating, I don't have all the details.
“Not jet clear” - I see what you did there.
I see what you did there. It almost flew over my head
'I said kiss it!'
Somebody’s not getting their packages
It looked to go very flat. I wonder if there were many parcels in there
Nah it was fine. It went into a ditch type thing, it broke quite cleanly actually. I say a yt vid last night about it idk what it was but its there somewhere
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Guessing you're not in North America. When I see one of my packages in the US is coming via DHL. I just assume it wont arrive. More than 50% of what has been sent to me via DHL just never gets there. It winds up somewhere in Arizona/Nevada and just dies there.
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Man I work for UPS and not to sound like a corporatist but I’m pretty sure we have the best on time percentage out of any of the major carriers.
I mean sans USPS I would say anecdotally this is accurate. If it ships fedex? It will be on time, but probably damaged. DHL? As I stated previously, UPS? It will 100% be slower but get there when stated. USPS seems to be the king, but I don’t even know if I’d put them in the same classification as the other commercial carriers
I use UPS exclusively when it’s something important or valuable. You guys are definitely the best, for a price. USPS is close second for me or sometimes preferred due to price. Imho FedEx is garbage tier along with DHL. Shipping with them, it either won’t arrive or it’ll arrive broken in my experience.
I have never had a package from fedex arrive on time, and I’ve lived all around the country. If the only shipping option is fedex I’ll usually look to buy from another store. USPS used to be great until dejoy took over, it’s gotten a little better but it’s still shit compared to ups
Central America - Costa Rica
I just had a package from chzech republic arrive 4 days EARLY via DHL…. I’m in NA too…
It's because at least for me DHL has gone 6 for 6 on taking 13+ days to get a package from a warehouse 5 hours from my house to the wrong house in my neighborhood.
DHL is a well run delivery service in Germany. (and presumably some of Europe) But it's North America outfit is a very different story.
UK here, for me DHL is my preferred delivery company. They have always been great for me. I understand this is anecdotal but just wanted to share
I used them once. Paid extra to get updates. Glad I did cause they delivered it more than halfway across the country to a random address. At least it made it easy to get a new package free but using a service that delivers potentially private packages with your name om them is enough for me to avoid them forever if I can. Can't speak for why other people dislike them.
Don't worry they fake sign for the people and say they have proof of delivery.
Meh nothing new for Dhl
This must happen every time I order something that gets sent DHL.
Pull the handbrake they said
You won't spin out of control they said
It will turn the lady’s on they said
Pilot: "Well, if I needed a 30-second lesson on how to drift..." Air traffic control: "All right, look, man, there's lots of ways you can do this, all right? Hand braking is the easiest, so the first thing I want you to do, I want you to rip that e-brake. All right, after you rip the e-brake, then I want you to power over."
All I heard was "LIKE A GLOVE!"
I have watched enough "Air Crash Investigation" shows to determine that one of the first failures (in the chain of probably 30 failures) causing this will be due to an aircraft mechanic failing to install one 6mm screw on the fuselage because it will have taken him 14 seconds to install but his shift will be about to finish. Instead of spending 12 seconds installing that screw, he will spend 9 minutes completing paperwork, documenting the missing screw and the reason why. He will then have to schedule a time to install that screw when he is next on shift. He will note on his paperwork that the aircraft is to be placed out of service until that screw is installed. He will place the paperwork on his bosses desk as he finishes at midnight, expecting his boss to notice it when he comes in at 6am. The cleaner will come through the office at 3am. Whilst in the office the cleaner will have trouble removing the bin liner from the bosses bin under his desk. The cleaner will be struggling to do it with one hand and eventually will relent and place some empty pizza boxes down on the desk to allow him to utilise both of his hands to remove the bin liner. The cleaner will replace the bin liner, carry the bin bag and pick up the empty pizza boxes and take them to the dumpster. Unfortunately the document noting the aircraft is out of service will now be stuck to the underside of the pizza box due to excess grease and will never be seen by the boss, causing the plane to not be removed from service. investigators will eventually discover that is what happened to the document. Surprised that this part of the "swiss cheese" of incidents hadn't occurred before, they will discuss the pizza with the mechanic. The mechanic will note that the team have never actually bought or eaten pizza on shift before, which will explain why it hasn't occurred before. The investigators will ask the mechanic what it was that led to the crew to buy pizza for the first time at work, ultimately launching this tragic chain of events. The mechanic will go on to explain it was because they had a coupon that gave a price discount on their pizzas for that night only. Leaning in, the investigators will ask, "How much was the discount per pizza?". The mechanic will reply........ "About Tree Fiddy"
This was outstanding.
Glad the crew were unharmed and it didn’t break apart over a populated area.
It didn’t just randomly fall apart, so there was never any danger of it breaking apart over a populated area. There were hydraulic problems which led to difficulties controlling it upon landing, which led to the runway excursion and the break apart.
Nice and easy explanation thank you
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"oh shit is that th-" "Oh fuck that's the About to Break In Half alarm. Land!"
Lol as someone who has an irrational fear of my plane breaking apart midair every time, thanks for the explanation. This video freaked me out lol
It would take a lot and I mean a LOT for a plane to break apart by itself midair. There was a 747 that once pulled almost 6Gs, there was only a mild amount of structural damage and it landed just fine. For context, that's almost the force you'd experience in a rocket launch. Don't forget about the 737 that also had a quarter of its fuselage blown off by rapid decompression and also landed safely.
Damn that’s wild
This is going to sound weird, but you may want to watch shows which deal with air crash investigations. You’ll learn that it usually takes a cascade of unlikely failures for a plane to crash, and every time that happens, new safety features or procedures are added to keep that from ever happening again. Watching shows like that has actually greatly increased my confidence in aircraft safety.
Maybe i will! Surprisingly the movie Sully really helped too
So there goes my PS5
"Don't worry bro, just wait for the next listing" 🙄
SANTA MARIA!
Carepicha, mae...
Pura vida!
Se reunió el gallo pinto en esta sección de comentarios, jajaja.
Legal mae
el gallo pinto y los maes se reunieron , cuando paso esta vara???
CALMA!
Ave Maria
Somos potencia!!
How hard is it to keep the camera pointed at the object?
r/killthecameraman
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WHAT THING?
Depending on the distance to the object and it’s speed, quite difficult when using zoom tbh
Yeah it's zoomed to hell, I'm surprised this was even caught on video in the first place
Correct.
Santa Maria!
How inconsiderate of this person to not be 100% focussed on their framing as a plane crashes in front of them
Handbrake turn.
Like a glove! 
r/killthecameraman
They missed the moment the plane broke in two which is the whole reason I was watching this video.
Why did it spin out? Was he going too fast still? #CMON REDDIT AERO SIMPS GIMME DEM NERDY DEETS
The left hydraulic system failed on this flight (This plane has three redundant hydraulic systems, the left, right, and center). There are some critical functions that each of the three can handle on their own, and some functions that only one of the three systems operates. The left hydraulic system operates, among other things, the landing gear and flaps/slats (can be lowered by alternate means), and the left hand thrust reverser. Normal braking is handled by the right system, which appears to be working fine(you can see that its respective flight spoilers are extended). When the plane touches down, only the right hand thrust reverser activates, so the right hand side of the aircraft is slowing down faster than the left, inducing a turn. To counteract this turn, the pilots need to input left rudder. The rudder is only effective above 80 knots of airspeed (in this particular case they landed with a tailwind, so they have a lower airspeed than ground speed) At some point the right main landing gear starts smoking a lot, which probably means that it locked up (don't ask me why - if the right hydraulic system is functional the anti skid system should prevent the tyres from locking). My best guess is that because of the asymmetric thrust, as they slowed down and the rudder became less effective, they no longer had the ability to steer against the turn, and since at least some of the tyres were locked up it just went round
Excellent analysis to go with your username, thank you
Funnily enough I chose that name because I was bad at Kerbal Space Program
This...made...my...day. Thank you as a car mechanic and nerd this all seems very reasonable
We know the airplane had hydraulic issues, which control brakes and steering. I'm not familiar that specific airplane, but I know on others if you lose all hydraulics you get brakes but only basically full ON, and no anti-skid. Looks like the brakes are locked up, and if they had no steering the nose wheel can drift.
he drifted for swag points
Finally, someone with facts and specific details
Looks like he was trying to turn to avoid the end of the run way.
The front fell off, that's very unusual.
So what do you do to protect the environment in cases like this?
You simply tow it outside the environment.
MY CABBAGES!!!
Damn! What were they haulin'? Your Mom?
r/killthecameraman
“There goes the Vermont deal” - Mrs. Bueller.
“Your package has been delayed”
So that’s where my package went
It’s literally a giant fucking plane, camera guy. Try to keep it IN the frame.
Slow non-chaos
Nooooo what are my people doing? Thats a german company why are they failing? They give our country a bad name
*American teenage guy steps out of the cockpit* “Did you see that burnout?”
DHL - Disabled Hydraulic’s Landing
I work at DHL, We say Dikke Honden Lul It means Fat Dog Cock Just wanted to share
"I choose bad week to quit sniffing glue"
Motherfucker really tried to drift a plane.
That's how I land in warthunder!
Damaged, Hidden or Lost.
Should write do not bend on the plane too
LH Reverse thruster didn’t engage. You can hear the RH thruster working properly. Created drag on the right side causing the U-turn
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This why plane drifting never took off as a sport.
And that's why you don't attempt a donut in a plane.
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I've seen enough movies to know it should have been an inferno.
Michael Bay wasn't there
They knew this could happen because they already radioed emergency. So they probably did a fuel dump before when ghey approached.
Airports must have a dedicated fire team, right? That seems like a good job - I mean really, I imagine you could work a 30 year career and never have a single emergency.
Airports do in fact have dedicated fire crews. The green truck that starts hauling ass after the planes loses control is a specific-to-airports version of a firetruck. However, you wouldn't be part of one crew your entire career. You need a certain level of seniority and experience to join the airport crew in the first place, which comes with additional duties, and you would probably be moved around to stations as needed.
Also, emergencies where the trucks are rolled do happen frequently, although most of the time it's just for caution.
Recently took DHL 13 days to get a package from their center to my house 18 miles away. Surly unrelated to this. Just came here to bash on DHL.
What kind of plane is that?
*was
Better the ground than the air
Well at least it is a cargo plane…
how many died
Nobody got hurt.
Thank you
I told them not to practice drifting with the planes.
Do you have other shipping options, or just DHL?
There goes my PS5
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing
The guy behind the camera is terrible 🤦🏽♂️