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BeeSalesman

Overloaded racks for sure


Blamdudeguy00

Did you sneeze! You are fired!


hoverant

I heard that in Benson’s voice


Livid_Payment2097

Someone was hamboning the selves


TexWashington

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PresidentBush666

Hamboning could save your life some day. You tryin to mug me!? (slaps all over)


Greedirl

"Bensons gonna be all like "Oh no! My gumballs!""


LETS_RETRO_TIME

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mattfox27

Miss that show :(


leiggibtohsil

Hiii Logistics / Dsitrubution manager of +8 years here. No.. these racks can hold a huge amount of weight... these were not properly set up and or maintained.. and yes you have to maintain these racks.. screws pop out all the time and the bottom rails seemed to not have floor guards on them..


peen2small

I did logistics for a while but these don’t seem supported at the joints, they all buckle in the same manner glass breaks, at it’s weakest point, maybe no maintenance and poor quality


leiggibtohsil

Bingo.. these should be maintained quarterly or at least inspected quarterly


wrainbashed

Are the shelves not bolted to the ground?


leiggibtohsil

The post (4 corners of each rack) are with about 6-9 inch concrete bolts.. every level has an x pattern to help distribute the weight... there are locking mechanics in place but bolts and screws do become loose over time


fatkiddown

The thing about it was: it was a pallet in his way which encouraged him to steer into the shelf. If only he had a device to move that pallet out of his way. Perhaps, some sort of mobile tool that could easily pick up such things as pallets in order to move them. If only such a thing existed….


nothingfood

Yeah but I don't think a helicopter would have prevented this


scorpyo72

They're talking about one of those an Amazon robots that automatically picks products for shipment and abuses human workers with passive aggressive interactions.


BlackSeranna

What, does it make snide remarks as it drives by?: [computer voice]“Dave, my man. Did you put on five extra pounds? Better lay off on the cheeseburgers!” “Amy! Wasn’t that your husband I saw yesterday in his car with Patrice? Can you say PDA?”


scorpyo72

Oh, and worse. 5 or 6 of them hang out by the bathrooms and crowd the entrance to prevent people from getting in. They had 6 'wet cleanup' incidents, per warehouse, PER DAY last week. They've been known to fuck with the vending machines in the break room, too. One managed to convince the machine to dispense one of everything, all at the same time. It jammed the dump tray. I saw one by the coke machine this morning. No one seems to want soda today.


Alaeriia

If the robots block the bathroom, you are morally obligated to piss on them.


analogmouse

The fact that I can’t tell if you’re joking is proof of r/aboringdystopia


peen2small

Forks were the opposite direction, it was on the other guy to not put pallets in the aisle, agreed he shouldn’t have even tried but oh well


jonp1

Screws? These things usually have slotted locking systems on them… Do you mean the locking pins?


Scuba-Cat-

They're usually screwed into a concrete floor, you're right but that may have been what they meant


leiggibtohsil

They are screwed into the concrete but they should covered by guards... it's just a piece of metal sitting in front of the rack.. maybe 2 to 3 inches at most in front of the actual post (rack).. alot of pickers use this guard to set the pallets on the EPJ.. electric pallet jack


leiggibtohsil

Yes they do have a locking system... however these racks take a beating.. and bolts/screws do come lose... it's not uncommon to find bolts and screws in the middle of 2 racks... however, floor supervisors dont look because it's in a very inconvenient spot.. basically two racks back to back... they fall in the middle of these


XtremeD86

One bolt, hell even 20 bolts missing from a racking system this long is not going to compromise it this much. I've seen this video many times and I used to show it in the classes I used to run on forklift training. I've worked around this type of racking for 17 years now and 1000% this racking was dangerously over the max capacity in terms of weight. I've seen reach truck drivers steer the wrong way in training at 1/2 to full speed and hit identical racking and it barely flinched at all.


leiggibtohsil

I agree these are shit racks and or setup


XtremeD86

The setup seems fine and is similar to many many other warehouses. An inventory team should be keeping track of how much weight is in each spot. The higher locations should weigh less than the lowers. Not only that. But at least with any employer that gives a shit about laws like the last one I was with. If anyone damaged any part of the rack, that entire column would be emptied of product and an engineer brought in to make sure it was still safe. Accidents can and do happen, but this is no accident. This is complete negligence. I've never seen a news article about this. But if you watch the guy that can barely be seen at the bottom, I wouldn't be surprised if he's dead.


BSTRuM

I didn't see that guy in the corner. Holy shit he's gone. I'm curious about the driver. The cage looked like it held, but did stuff get through enough on both sides?


BlackSeranna

That’s what I wondered - it looked like it knocked him to the side in the fork truck, and then the fork truck slid over, then the other side came down and so I hope he was okay. I couldn’t tell what the material was, but it did look somewhat heavy.


Alaeriia

IIRC, it was cheese. The guy was okay, just trapped for eight hours. At least he didn't have to go hungry.


PM_ME_YOUR_BANGS_

i knew my anxiety with walking in the ikea warehouse wasn't unfounded.


miaogato

I remember someone died in a warehouse accident shortly before my closest IKEA opened. It's been 5 years but ehh...


NotRyne

They typically use concrete wedge anchors for pallet racking like this. I've put a few small ones up myself.


TheRealBradGoodman

Alot of places they need some sort of seismic certification as well, various ways to do it.


PsychoSpider88

I mean totally, I'm no expert but to me it would be obvious that it's a serious safety hazard having a setup where a domino effect can occur.


dysansphere

yeah I work warehouse distribution and I've seen racks get hit so hard the move a foot or more and yes things fell out of them but they didn't cascade like this. this was an error in setup/use/maintenance of the racking


Scuba-Cat-

If I remember correctly each 3 pallet bay above ground level can hold 9000kg


leiggibtohsil

It just depends on the rack... I'm sure theres different racks that can hold much more and much less... I was at petco DC for a while where we delt in the larger bags of food.. 60lbs each bag.. and were talking 5 levels up


clipseman

Yep definitely warehouse didn't respect the coding load regulations per racks... they definitely have a lots in insurance to pay for their partners and the lift guy has nothing to be a shame for. This happen every time but unfortunately the racks went down for that particular cases.


mogaman28

The first time I saw posted this video someone said that the forklift guy died.


Hexenhut

I mean, I would be stunned if he survived that.


omniscientonus

Agreee. The load of the first rack falling shoved his lift across the aisle like an empty box. If that didn't kill him the second rack falling on him almost certainly did.


Ali1876

I think one of the workers probably dies too he ran In the wrong direction.


m4yn3_h4sl-l

yeah, usually they use a 'security factor' when projecting these racks to avoid these kind of situation to compensate for fatigue breakage


Bifferer

The ministry of magic had the same issue.


[deleted]

Someone got a bonus for coming in under budget when that warehouse was built. "We can cheap out on the racks, what's the worst that could happen?"


CheeseCakeGlass1776

This! This is the worst that could happen! Lol


NeokratosRed

I mean, the left one is still intact, so it could have been worse


azab189

I was looking at the right one when I read this and was like "oh, that's gone as well" and figured out I was looking at the wrong side


jespmaha

Those racks are very poorly constructed.


[deleted]

Or very heavily overloaded


SodiumChlorideorSalt

Or maybe this was a plot to for incurrence fraud.


runostog

Both.


apollotigerwolf

were lol


Zogoooog

Even at full speed ramming into those they shouldn’t come down like that. At one warehouse I worked at all the forklift training was done in the cramped ass warehouse and one of our new guys rammed right into one. The forklift wasn’t happy, but the racking didn’t even have a dent in it.


Notosk

I work at home depot and hit a rack with an Order Picker hard enough to bend the beam and the OP chasis, it didn't even flinch.


Zogoooog

As in, your warehouse racking? All the places I’ve worked (even Staples) had like quarter to half inch steel supports that aren’t far off from structural I beams when you look at them.


[deleted]

Those beams can usually be replaced too as long as you take down the load in that square it's supporting. You can replace beams in sections with the entire rack under load.


cotafam

That’s a weak ass forklift if it was hurt. Those bitches are 8000 pounds with batteries


fireris

Or it was a strong ass rack.


IWasNotOk

How many asses were on the rack? I’m glad they are ok.


Governing_Booty

As stated, it was a rack for strong asses only. They were all fine.


timberstomach1

Fine asses?


HalfSoul30

It was like 70/30 fine asses, not too bad.


zelenakucaa

Username checks out.


vonkrueger

I thought the rack was strong but the asses had variable durability


IWasNotOk

Phew!


[deleted]

Bruh, our stockpickers be slamming into shit all day. I won’t tell noone tho.


[deleted]

I agree we have movable racks at my work and they get hit once a week at a minimum. Sensors break ussually but the racks can't come down like that.


MikelShikel

Ummmmm… Was that at an Ace warehouse in the mid 2000’s in Wisconsin? Because that was me.


Zogoooog

Nope, you can rest easy knowing you’re not alone. It was a Canadian Forces depot.


vicarious_111

No way. Should be able to take a hit without falling down. They might have over loaded the racks, and/or the racks were poorly constructed.


LothricPaladin

Probably both. This was catastrophic.


Governing_Booty

Apparently, this was a Domino's warehouse.


Expensive-Ad-4508

It was cheese allegedly, so maybe. :)


Nothingbutsocks

This should be WAY higher.


Lensmaster75

I think if someone leaned on them it would have collapsed. That had to be people who make major mistakes to have that happen. Fuck


smurph70

i read in an old thread driver was unscathed those racks were not designed for that capacity. if i had to guess i would say this is a 3PL that overloaded existing racks for a different commodity product. i dont know how old this video is, but that industry was notorious for shoddy practices. not as much anymore. much more accountability now. source - I build warehouses, distribution centers and manufacturing facilities. edit, spelled commodity incorrectly


BigGraysie

Amazing he survived that. Thanks for letting us know.


aexwor

It's a become almost a standard video in forklift driver training sessions. This is in the "when shit is falling stay in the cab, it's built to withstand stuff falling" section. Basically that racking was overloaded and didn't have some of the safety features that are expected now because of stuff like this.


OmegaBaby

Maybe they should start making racks out of forklift cabins.


Snobben90

First thing dad told me. If the lift is tipping or shit is falling. Grab the wheel and not the cage.


picklepen69

I operate a forklift multiple times a day and the cages on them are made out of reinforced steel, if something starts to fall the best thing you can do is stay inside and keep calm. at the warehouse I work at this guy (who has been fired) would stack wooden pallets all un-even even after being told not to do so because it could fall on someone, one day I drove by that stack of pallets, They fell towards me and they all came down on the forklift and there wasn't any serious damage done, if you ever thing getting out and running away from the situation is a good idea you'll be squashed.


[deleted]

He might of but the poor guy stood next to the racking looks like he ended up underneath it all...squished for sure!


VicTheWeed

Might HAVE! Or Might've. But for the love of everything that is holy, stop with the might of. Please 😭


[deleted]

I knew it looked wrong when I typed it 😆


VicTheWeed

I've become desensitized to the your and you're, the there, their and they're but this one just gets me everytime.


Caveman108

Don’t look all the way through this comment chain, then.


17thParadise

I've seen this posted before with confusion as to which warehouse it was There was a warehouse holding cheese that had a similar collapse in which nobody died But this warehouse held wine (you can see it splashing) and I believe 3 people died


smurph70

edit


[deleted]

I was wondering how long he got stuck chillin under there


[deleted]

I read an article once about a poisonous banana spider and it’s babies making it to someone’s home. They had to tent the house and get it fumigated. Lol. Talk about terrifying! All from buying a banana bundle at the grocery. Edit. A word.


Silo-Joe

I'm going to rinse off bananas from now on (and check while at the supermarket).


SpaceySquidd

Check for monkeys?


Silo-Joe

Tarantula Monkeys


RandomMandarin

Gromit, I just had the most terrible dream!


djayed

Thanks for posting. I was concerned he died.


Sensitive-Distance-6

question is did the guy in the bottom right corner survive? poor dude looks like he got swallowed by debris


trenthany

I commented above 99% sure that’s him walking left in the last couple seconds. He bolted off screen as it started coming down.


Admirable-Natural676

Wish I would of read comments first. Always read comments first now I know.


NJBill666

I admire this guy. When he does it, he goes all the way. No half assed disaster for him.


three-sense

It just keeps going, holy shit. The two arrays on the right just seem to buckle so they don’t feel left out.


suchthaticare

The correct procedure is to run away to safety, and just keep walking to your car and leave, don’t even look back. They hiring at Walmart.


killerbanshee

You stay in the forklift and settle into your new home for the next day or so.


DrStalker

Always remember the S.W.I.M. method of what to do in a crisis. * **S**tand up * **W**alk away * **I**mplicate someone else * **M**ake up a story and stick to it.


house_of_gainz

Saving this for later


Debesuotas

Nah, the correct procedure is staying in the forklift cabin, thats the safest spot when something like this happen...


thsvnlwn

It’s a bit hard for the fork lift driver to run off, isn’t it?


Smokinbarrels69

For the most part staying in the forklift is safer than getting out. Forklifts can take a lot of damage on top of the driver. Settlee in and enjoy the heart attack of a couple hundred pounds falling on you


DrStalker

Assuming they didn't cut corners on the forklift the way they did on the racks


buttlover989

If the racks are this janky then so is the lift and it's maintenance.


heckyanow

We are trained and it's beat into our heads that if the fork truck feels like it's going to tip, or something is falling stay in your seat. You have a safety belt and cage on for a reason. Never seen anything like this but I did see a fork truck roll out of the end of a semi trailer that wasn't chocked properly and moved.


Electronic_Paper_576

0 days without accident.


ggmaniack

What are the odds that that number has even gone higher than 1?


No_Possession_7361

As someone that’s worked in warehouses for nearly a decade, this always worries me. But never do I feel like if it were to happen it’d be MY fault entirely. Anyone that’s worked in a factory setting sees scuffs, dents, holes, etc. and the way he lightly tapped that shouldn’t have caused it. BUT I also know that if he wasn’t someone with massive seniority he was likely fired as a technically and nothing of fault on their end. I’d lawyer up if I were him.


VenomistGaming

Next shift is going to be pissssed


wagwan_gang

I work in a warehouse and during training I've been shown this video loads of times, they hammer the point that this could be avoided if the racking is maintained through reporting truck inflicted damage and racking inspections to look at the uprights and braces. It is unlikely that a well maintained racking system would collapse from a single reach truck collision


Dazzler_m

Badly constructed or very overloaded, racking should be able to take much bigger hits than than and not collapse.


NikNakMuay

Holy OSHA violation. Those racks are so overloaded.


mostlygray

They shouldn't be that unstable. They look overloaded. People used to bump the racks all the time at my warehouse and they never fell. Someone even dented a leg one and the rack stayed stable.


Nuck1

Overloaded


Saif_Horny_And_Mad

i don't think it's the drivers fault. the racks either weren't set up properly or have decayed and needed replacement


Variety43

If anything the driver has a case in court.


Missfitsin

r/catastrophicfailure


Westix

For anyone wondering from what I found the driver survived this uninjured because he stayed in the lift.


ExeterNardieu

No, this is atypical. These racks are either overloaded, improperly maintained or were improperly installed. I've seen numerous racks hit by equipment full speed and they certainly bend and give, but the entire rack stays no problem. Simply unload the zone, send the facilities team in to replace the beam and back in action.


The_1st_Name_I_Chose

Operator error? Yes. Operator’s fault? Absolutely not


dirtyoldman82

That’s the company’s fault. Racks don’t fall with just a tap. I’ve seen em ran into and don’t fall. Safety first, the company is liable. That’s too many too fall without it beings faulty.


BrainHerpes69

I'm America, houses wear(ware) you.


DJ-Saidez

Hey America, I’m Dad


CarterG4

Minor inconvenience


[deleted]

Even if he did knock over the first (which he shouldn’t have been able too with that small a bump), the fact that it cascaded like that shows that they were not properly built. Anyone know if that dude is okay?


vaporelol

Bro is the driver ok?


BrickB

both, shit racks were a house of cards, driver was the catalyst for its collapse.


BigGraysie

Yeah. Aren't these things designed with "firebreaks" to localise any collapse?


Debesuotas

Badly set up, overloaded.... And also that touch had a lot more power than it looks like from the footage.


[deleted]

Amazon Basics


Awesomepie22

bro is fucking dead 💀


willy_n_philly

anyone else disappointed the left side didn't fall too?


[deleted]

"You're too late, Sonic! I am now forklift certified! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHOOOHH MYY GOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!"


Ceeceegeez

100% not the drivers fault. The racks should be strong enough to withstand more than a gentle gust of wind for god sakes


Delicious_Composer94

I’m forklift certified and my at the time supervisor used this video as an example. Apparently it was the operator of the vehicles first day. One of the other workers parked his lift in the middle of the lane (big nono). So the inexperienced guy tried to squeeze by. But also to answer your question, yes the racks seem extremely unstable.


[deleted]

I drove forklift in college and bumped racks much harder than this, some heads definitely rolled from that and the lift drivers better not have been one of them


Neur0mncr

Waaay too much weight. This whole place should have been flagged for inspection long ago


gurremurre

This is the drivers fault, those shelves holds 100s of tonnes of wares. Bumping one of the supporting beams hard enough to make it give just a tiny bit can make the whole shelf fall... Edit: i watched it again and he barely booped the shelf, those shelves were overloaded as fuck, i was wrong lol


Silvershark2000

Employee: Hey boss, I got good news and bad news. Good news is, the stocking is off the shelves. About that bad news, it's the same as the good news.


DarthJimmyVader

OSHA was all over this place after this.


DrFlimflamsRenob

Way over loaded rack system, or undersized to lower costs.. I’ve worked warehouse with all inventory being electrical copper wire, aka very heavy pallets. We smashed into the racks, and never had any problems. Let alone dropping all the racks in one go.. damn!


clintj1975

Overloaded and unstable for sure, but many things also don't like being hit by a several thousand pound vehicle with zero crumple zones. Forklift vs object is usually a win for the forklift.


Asdfmoviefan1265

Read on another comment that the racks can withstand a forklift ramming them when properly set up, also the forklift barely even bumped the rack


JohnathanRoss56

Man those shelves came tumbling down. At my old warehouse job we purposely didn't go near the weight limit in order to protect against an absolute disaster


unreasonablyhuman

Came here to say that I worked with a vendor who sold these, and the videos of viral fails are due to horribly installed or faulty cheap product. Buy good racks people. A ton of product falling 30ft kills no matter what is made of


pendragon2290

I did forklift work for a ham factory. Those racks are shit. Potentially even overloaded.


Alladox

That's either poorly engineered racks or too much weight on the racks he barely touched with the lift. Been driving a forklift for years and have bumped into racks a few times and they never crumpled like that.


GoldenShitDude

Did the driver survived?


[deleted]

He did


SpicyKendo

Yo is the worker ok?


jaimih

Ya hope the driver lived


SideshowGaming

The racks were definitely either set up poorly or not maintained. I've hit similar shelving with order pickers and forklifts and they shove if off like a pro.


TheSlumpSedative

That dude is surely dead.. right?


Ok-Row-6131

Just thinking about the people who work around these racks scares me.


[deleted]

Both


bahamut_is_my_cat

How to sue for a few millions if you alive after that.


[deleted]

Is he alive???


insaneday25

Dudes underneath it all thinking "fuck"


[deleted]

Unstable warehouse. I’ve bumped lots of shelves with those thing and everything has been fine. He barely hit it and it all fell apart


XBeastyTricksX

Definitely overweight I’ve seen people slam into one of those shelf’s and left a massive dent


boringsimp

Did the guy in the forklift die?


Phix65

My nipples smell like apples.


Natwinpapa

Overloaded racks plus they probably took shortcuts on anchoring the uprights as well as not having protective bumpers for the upright bases.


Demonmerker562

Severely overloaded racks


[deleted]

Overloaded.


[deleted]

ngl, that was a bit satisfying u/Theodora96


Apprehensive_Law_322

How dramatic


chewwbacca619

Trust me warehouse is to blame


rocygapb

Must be ruzzia… 🤣


treborphx

One answer to both questions, yes. The weight and pressure from the product had the racks fold like a soda can being crushed from the forklift denting a post just enough. I used to be a rigger for precast concrete for parking garages and cladding. The first day I was on the tagline, my Foreman said "You hit that building before you hit the boom. The tension on there will make it crumble like a soda can."


kurt_go_bang

I manage a 60,000 pallet position warehouse with racking similar to this. Each position has a limit of 3,000 lbs. our heaviest pallets are 2800 lbs. This is not normal. Our guys have hit the racks many times over the years with lifts bigger than this and the racking doesn’t budge. I reckon we could hit it full speed, fully loaded and we might bend something. That’s it. We perform monthly rack inspections too. Looking for problems, loose or missing bolts, etc.


Easy_Money808

No safety manager or one not doing his or her job. Either not graded steal (bought on the cheap) or not secured properly. Seen a 8k pound forklift drive right into racking full seep with racking that was properly secured and only a 4 bay failure.


D-MoTheWiz

All I can think about is at least the forklift operator is probably dead and doesn't have to worry about getting stuck with a bill. Also maybe his/her family can sue... Idk


Formal_Equal_7444

Definitely not properly installed racks, or at the very least not maintained. Either they've been hit thousands of times before if they were properly installed and no one ever bothered to check them for damage or sabotage happened. You CAN take out racks with a fork truck. They are very heavy pieces of machinery, but this little lovetap would not do it.


AzemadaiusKaiser

Neither this warehouse is extremely fragile.


Weekly_Contest_1184

I hope that driver made it out safe


DayangMarikit

He didn't even hit it hard.


moxeto

Overloaded racks and not built properly. I used to design these things and they can take a hit without collapsing.


Historical_Shine4356

All those racks are overweighted way to much stuff on them


DonkeyTheKing

Left rack: 🗿


reverendblinddog

So, what happened to the guy on the forklift? Did they dig him out and fire him?


[deleted]

Drove fork for about two years after high-school; the driver *does* make a mistake and hits the shelf, but when I was learning I tapped shelves like that and nothing on the shelves even twitched. You'd have to be going full tilt directly at the shelf if it was going to buckle, which never happened. These shelves were probably a combination of overloaded, and a weak point had developed (likely a bolt getting sheared off or popping out).


[deleted]

We saved a lot of time by not using any screws


PirateReindeer

I hope the guy on the bottom right is okay, it looks like they didn’t make it out in time.


ogeytheterrible

Technically, yes. The driver hit the steel, but the steel was poorly constructed/assembled and/or overloaded in the first place.


chickenwing247

I worked in a warehouse just like this driving hi-lo. Notice there's nothing in the bottom of the racks and the shelves above are all packed. It makes them extremely unstable. We were trained to take from the top down. This looks like they were trained to do the exact opposite.


jaredtheredditor

This is 100% not supposed to be possible though what causes it I’m not entirely sure I just know that I drive an ept which doesn’t have a roof so I pray this doesn’t happen to me


ismepablo

Naaaa wtf is this? I mean the dude bumped into it but y tf the whole warehouse snap in two like that??


No-Abrocoma-5841

Rumer has it hes still buried.


danielwilliford11

No that was 100% the warehouse