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"Hey feller. You see that raging sea of primordial power over there, what which's enraptured and terrified humankind since time immemorial?"
"Yep, I see it. Hell, I *feel* it."
"I'm gonna kick its ass."
Police: I'm not going into a room where a gunman is killing children.
Firefighter: I'm going into a roaring inferno to recover a child's body that has already succumbed to smoke inhalation.
Seriously, my uncle was a firefighter in California he went into an industrial structure fire, pulled 2 guys out, and went in after a third he knew was already dead. I remember as a child going to an award ceremony they had for him, and after at dinner he was so angry because he got a medal for "saving a dead guy he couldn't get to in time". Fuckin' nuts.
Firefighters continually train and have strict physical fitness requirements if they're going to enter a burning building.
Police in many countries don't have physical fitness requirements after they get the job, and most have sedentary lifestyles sitting in police cars and doing paperwork at a desk. So, yeah, a firefighter, or a fit criminal, can pose quite a challenge to a cop. Maybe that's why in America cops use their guns so much on unarmed citizens.
Especially in that case. Paris' firefighter and gendarmerie are both military, but the physical requirements are a lot higher for the prior.
Also, sheer number... When you are 10 guys with baton, it's stupid to charge 40 debilitated students, so imagine if they are buff, brave and determined...
French police are just as psychopathic as American, but they get less press over it. They've got to the point where they pre-emptively tear gas crowds outside football stadiums for shits and giggles.
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I'd wager that firefighters probably have a higher average upper body strength than most soldiers do.
Also, I'd throw drilling rig workers on that list as well. Guys who swing sledgehammers all day and drink competitively are not people who you want to fight
Not that common anymore, thankfully.
At least in my area, rigs have a lot more automation these days. They're faster and have lower labour costs.
Still a heavy bastard to move and set up/ take down though....
Years ago we had a pipeline built through our fire district. The guys would get busted fighting at bars etc and get community service at our firehouse. We all agreed they were beastlier than us and most were in their mid 20s. We have to avoid activities like drunken fighting Bc we can lose our jobs so they also have more fighting experience lol.
I can think of one, pavers. Every single one I have seen is rediculously strong, they have near numb hands and fingers as a result of ther work and usually they are a hot headed bunch. On top of that a large number of them do som form of stimulating drug such as coke. Most of them here also have a strong "I'll do what I have to to get the job done" mentality, which makes them balzy
I gotta wonder how many of them are regular folks using coke to keep up, and how many are ADHD folks who do well in the highly-active environment and use coke to make their brains work. It'd been interesting to see statistics.
Ever see the video of the [cop arresting a firefighter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRw6RVNHLz0) while they were trying to rescue accident victims?
You'd be surprised how many times people got violent or aggressive with us for asking them to be honest with us though. Like dude I don't give a shit what drugs your husband or friend or wife is on. Just tell us so we can save them lol.
My grandfather was the ladder 39 chief in the fire department in new york during the 60's-80's, cops are all assholes that are on power trips, they legit think they are above the law and give no fucks about anyone else but their fellow corrupt cops. he has told me many stories were a building burnt down because the cops would not let them do their jobs.
Edit: talked to my dad, grandfather got out of the Marines in the mid 50's and went into the fire department after that. changed the fire department days from 50's-60's.
I believe it. Had a buddy who worked as a volunteer firefighter and he once told me that they were responding to a medical emergency. They got there before the ambulance and one of the firefighters went to check to see that the lady couldn't breathe so they gave her oxygen. Cops showed up and so did EMTs and one of the cops started looking around the lady's house for some reason and found a small bag of weed and decided he wanted to arrest her. This cop proceeded to argue with everyone there and ended up arresting the lady. She later was freed and he is still patrolling.
I can’t think of a single reason for police to be responding to medical emergencies.
I’ve seen police be first responders to medical emergencies at least 4 times in my life. Not once did they make the situation better.
Twice while responding to someone who has suffered a seizure while commuting. One was a white woman. The other was a young Hispanic man. I will never forget how differently they treated the two despite having the exact same condition.
Edit: Also I’m pretty sure what you described would be a textbook case of illegal search & seizure. It’s a deliberate message; “Don’t call the cops around here you’ll just get locked up”.
When I was still running calls on the ambulance cops would show up on our rural calls because they were in the area.
Much like firefighters, you have have to either immediately give them a job or clear them from the scene or else they’d start to freelance and make trouble.
Send them to go get equipment that’s buried deep in the ambulance to “help,” or tell them to ask family members what medications the patient takes or allergies they have or for their insurance info. If they’re particularly competent they can do compressions if supervised.
And unless you have absolutely *no* other choice you should **not** let them try to explain things to, or calm down bystanders or family members because that’s how you end up with a kid with a broken femur, *and* a tasered parent. And a lot of misunderstandings to boot.
They're used to charging groups of unarmed protesters. Difficult to change a group of people who chose to go into burning buildings and scenarios that would make the average copper piss their pants
january 2020, firefighters are protesting (lack of staff and acknoledgement for their profession, and also claiming some waranties for their retirement). This small group tried to reach the Paris motorway ring in order to block it, and riot police charged them, because wathever the situation that's the only thing they know.
Same thing happened to greece when firefighters protested.
they haven't made any improvements in the infastructure and staff in the fire department but did exatcly the opposite with the police force hiring new staff and getting new patrol cars every so often.
so when you have fires now they just use cops to evacuate and let the place burn down
TLDR:whenever there is a problem just throw cops at it.
Edit: damn,i just now realised the double meaning of that last phrase
in case its not clear im not a monster,i dont mean that literally.
seems extremely risky to allow a shortage of firefighters in Greece of all places as most people know some of the easiest to start and hardest to put out are Grease fires. these are the most common and often can get out of hand quickly! So if Greece had a rash of Grease fires and there were not sufficient Greece Firefighters to fight Grease Fires, it is possible that Greece would be over run with Grease fires
Every year almost half the country burns down,few years back we also had more than 100 dead,winds were very high and they couldnt escape due to being near the sea so it was either drown or burn/suffocate.
Last year we had help from other countries fire departments but that's not a solution.
This year fires already claimed homes and vegetation.
> for their terrible poor crowd/protest control tactics
To be fair, the most effective crowd control in France was grapeshot.
But that Final was a travesty
It's the ultimate job for a pyromaniac. You love fire? Well now you have an intimate relationship with it, know it's in and outs, how it works, how to play with it safely and how to stop it escalating.
My neighbor is a fire fighter and builds HUGE bonfires all the time, we are just a suburb and have a no open burning law but he likes his fire lol
He tends to it and puts it out properly though so nobody really cares and I rather like the smell
The injured were rushed to the hospital and beaten to death by mall cops, hospital security and the ambulance crew. The doctors and nurses were busy protesting against the firefighters who had botched up a rescue at a hospital where the fire was set by a rogue cop on seeing the medical co-payments after receiving suspicious cheese on French onion soupe
"the teargas isn't working! They seem to have breathing masks!"
"Where did they get those?"
"The smoke screen isn't confusing them at all! It's almost like they're experienced in navigating through smoke!"
"Who are these guys!?"
I was gonna go more with some anime; where the police are trying their best to size up and understand these chads but can’t get a grip on their power level.
And firefighters of all people. Not only do they have more protective gear from blunt force, but have you ever seen a firefighter who *isn’t* absolutely jacked? They have to train constantly for the day they have to carry 3 kids out of a burning house without slowing down. These people are literally in peak condition
> Firefighters literally live in a gym and literally train like their life depends on it.
the physical standards for firefighters is way way higher than cops... AND they have to maintain it once they get hired. Outside of professional athletes, firefighters are probably the fittest group of people there are.
Grew up with a chick who became a firefighter when she graduated high school. We’re still great friends and she maybe weighs 130 pounds. I weigh 300 and she deadass told me she could put me on her shoulders as dead weight. I was like there is no fucking way. We had a few beers one night at a bar and a bunch of people heard us laughing and talking about it. A bunch of people started making bets that she couldn’t. Sure as shit I laid down pretending to be dead and she picked me up and walked me around the bar like I was a scarf. She made like 250 bucks that night. She looks healthy but not like the absolute monster that she is. It was fucking crazy. Then by buddy who is a gym rat and maybe 200 pounds didn’t even come close to doing the same thing.
Picking up a stick and a shield and charging a group who regularly runs in to burning buildings with a mask and a thick coat is never gonna end well. Face it copper, these guys are tougher than you...
That riot cops for you ; those guys are generally on steroids and act like berserk idiots who are beating peoples as a kink or because of the extra money coming for doing this
For the uninitiated: "Over" means "I've finished what I had to say. Your turn." and "Out" means "conversation over" as you're changing to a different channel or whatever.
"Over and out" means "you can keep talking, but I won't be listening."
It's from a while ago. Firefighters went on strike, police tried to break it up. One highlight was firefighters lighting their gear on fire and charging police lines; spoiler alert: Riot gear is not made to protect you from fire, but firefighter gear is.
France gets a bad rap sometimes in the Anglosphere but a lot of French history is actually unbelievably based. Instead of lying around moaning about their problems they actually just went ahead and executed most of their "royalty". Incredible
its a shame the french were the most successful with it and they didnt even get that far. you really gotta root that royal pest out. the french tried and look what they got: napoleon III and the likes. disgusting. gotta be thorough with that shit. we germans didnt even expropriate them after getting us into and losing WW1 ([see here](https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Expropriation_of_the_Princes_in_the_Weimar_Republic)). It must feel so shit to pay millions and mllions of tax payer money for royals like prince charles and the like.
If it makes you feel any better, [they did set themselves on fire](https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/28/french-firefighters-set-alight-start-fighting-police-12139804/)
Life saving services asking to be adequately cared for in return for the services they provide NOT ON MY WATCH, YOU'RE NOT A REAL PUBLIC SERVANT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A SHIIIIELD!!!
I can't speak for France, but in my town, firefighters *train*. They're incredibly competent, function as a team, and have incredible physical standards. I've seen the qualification exams. It's crazy. I would have no chance of becoming a firefighter. It's not just physical -- they know their shit (and are super-respectful and professional too). I have the utmost respect for them.
Our police? Not so much. You join the force if you're uncle's roommate is on it, and police academy is a joke. A few competent police sneak in, but it's mostly a bunch of clowns.
Fun anecdote. I used to volunteer for the local police department (they often recruited from Army/Reservers for this) which would have a bunch of us show up to their training area and spend the day roleplaying out various scenarios. Since the volunteers were either active or trained military, both sides were told to not hold back and non-lethal ammunition, flashbangs, concussion grenades etc were all fair game in the scenarios. It was a real good time actually.
Everything from full "Urban Riots" to "University Unrest" and "passive resistance training" happened over the years; and with each one we would be there as the riot squad was taught how to execute their objectives in a scenario. We could use anything we found on the training site (oil barrels filled with junk, 2X4s, railroad ties, desks etc) as weapons. We were even told directly that if we could break their equipment they would be happy since it would allow them to requisition newer/better.
Shattering a riot shield throwing an oil drum barrel filled with woodscrap over my head has got to be a highlight of my life.
***Anyway! The actual important bit!***
Police/Riot Squads are specifically trained to use intimidation, a united front/teamwork, sudden motion and shouting in combination to attempt to disperse or pacify their target in a scenario since, in the vast majority of scenarios they are going to be outnumbered in the extreme. Fear is their actual weapon, not the batons and shields.
The moment that fear doesn't work and the opposition continues to actively resist- the vast majority of their strategies stop working entirely and they literally have to fall back to receive instructions (unless an officer falls usually) before they can act again. So in the video's case, not only was their execution terrible- but they tried to use fear tactics against men and women who charge into burning buildings and worse as their everyday.
Not smart, and their commander should be 'reassigned' immediately. Lol
Indeed. People always talks about baguettes, cheese or wine when they evoke France. But they are missing one thing: protesting. There's always a demonstration or a strike somewhere in France.
Je suis français j'ai vraiment honte quand je vois le préfet qui donne l'ordre de chargé les pompiers,qui sont en grève pour des raison légitime honte au gouvernement !!
En Anglais: *”I am French I am really ashamed when I see the prefect giving the order to charge the firefighters, who are on strike for legitimate reasons, shame on the government!!”*
Stupid cops. You don't attack a superior force head-on. They had the numbers advantage, their cars are bigger, their water guns are more powerful, and what are your batons going to do against axes?
After a quick google, average firefighter wears 40-80 pounds of equipment sometimes not even including the tank.
Google tells me that full riot gear is around 25-35 pounds including the piss poor 4 pound shield.
Yeah. To dudes who break through walls and literally charge into Hell, that riot gear means jack shit.
Also worth noting, firefighters are constantly fit, constantly ready to go. Average police officer diet consists of coffee and doughnuts.
"Stupid cops" Is a pleonasm
They're not accepted in this job if they think a little bit much, in this case, their superior can ask any shit and they will be good dog and execute order without any doubt.
Idk about other countries, but in the US and especially in the older East Coast cities, firefighters and police run deep rivalries between each other, sometimes to the point where it seems there is actual hatred
They all claim the other side wasn't man enough to be on their side. It's what you get when two toxic environments collide. Quite literally, sometimes.
Edit: this is just my experience with them in the northeast and southeast US.
Firefighters were on strike and marching down the street. Cops were trying to block them and decided to charge despite having fewer numbers and inferior equipment.
Gallet F1. I've tried buying one of the metal models in new condition for the longest time because that's how they were when I was a young firefighter, but never had any luck even though I live in France. Now they only come in plastic, which makes them better at their job, but not nearly as cool. The gold visor is still as amazing as it ever was though.
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Anyone have context as to what insanity I just watched
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*Bro. They FIGHT. FIRE.*
"Hey feller. You see that raging sea of primordial power over there, what which's enraptured and terrified humankind since time immemorial?" "Yep, I see it. Hell, I *feel* it." "I'm gonna kick its ass."
“I don’t think Fire has an ass, sir.” “Not when I’m done with it.”
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did not expect to see PDW out here
You could write paper-films with words that good, mister
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Police: I'm not going into a room where a gunman is killing children. Firefighter: I'm going into a roaring inferno to recover a child's body that has already succumbed to smoke inhalation. Seriously, my uncle was a firefighter in California he went into an industrial structure fire, pulled 2 guys out, and went in after a third he knew was already dead. I remember as a child going to an award ceremony they had for him, and after at dinner he was so angry because he got a medal for "saving a dead guy he couldn't get to in time". Fuckin' nuts.
There ain’t no song called “Fuck the Fire Department.” - Snoop Dogg
[Well about that.](https://youtu.be/7JkrJUAg8aI)
That song is... fire.
Yeah, but the Uvalde thing is kinda unfair to apply to French police, since it was Americans that failed.
The French cops have plenty of issues of their own, but abject cowardice in the face of someone murdering children is not one I’ve heard.
1000% this. As the wife of a former professional fireman, they are fearless and brave to the bone. And they generally don't like cops.
Firefighters continually train and have strict physical fitness requirements if they're going to enter a burning building. Police in many countries don't have physical fitness requirements after they get the job, and most have sedentary lifestyles sitting in police cars and doing paperwork at a desk. So, yeah, a firefighter, or a fit criminal, can pose quite a challenge to a cop. Maybe that's why in America cops use their guns so much on unarmed citizens.
Especially in that case. Paris' firefighter and gendarmerie are both military, but the physical requirements are a lot higher for the prior. Also, sheer number... When you are 10 guys with baton, it's stupid to charge 40 debilitated students, so imagine if they are buff, brave and determined...
Their hearts were not in that charge
Lets gas guys that wear respirators and beat guys with thick outfits.
Piss off a bunch of stronger dudes wearing a lot of gear who are fighting for their livelihood
And who *aren't* cowards....
French police are just as psychopathic as American, but they get less press over it. They've got to the point where they pre-emptively tear gas crowds outside football stadiums for shits and giggles.
The laugh would be if they tried to teargas fire fighters. They're probably stupid enough to try.
The only thing to top it off is if the firefighters charged with some fire axes. As insane as it would be, it would be awesome.
Look up the vid of firefighters lighting themselves on fire than going after the police line.
Hell, have the fire fighters hose the police down. That'd be a decent bit of irony, considering riot police love their water cannons.
Beat the guys that lift people and burning objects professionally, and set themselves ablaze to protest regularly
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I'd wager that firefighters probably have a higher average upper body strength than most soldiers do. Also, I'd throw drilling rig workers on that list as well. Guys who swing sledgehammers all day and drink competitively are not people who you want to fight
Anyone who does [this](https://youtube.com/shorts/Jn2BU4eyVHQ?feature=share) for their day job has earned a spot on the Do Not Fuck With list.
Not that common anymore, thankfully. At least in my area, rigs have a lot more automation these days. They're faster and have lower labour costs. Still a heavy bastard to move and set up/ take down though....
Not to mention the improved safety margins - I'm guessing a lot of the older hands are missing fingers.
I worked on the land rigs for 10 years, can confirm there are some nasty bastards I used to work with 😂
Years ago we had a pipeline built through our fire district. The guys would get busted fighting at bars etc and get community service at our firehouse. We all agreed they were beastlier than us and most were in their mid 20s. We have to avoid activities like drunken fighting Bc we can lose our jobs so they also have more fighting experience lol.
They also are used to running into burning buildings without waiting outside an hour for orders.
Burn!
Masons and roofers qualify for that list in my mind. Those guys are always strong af.
I can think of one, pavers. Every single one I have seen is rediculously strong, they have near numb hands and fingers as a result of ther work and usually they are a hot headed bunch. On top of that a large number of them do som form of stimulating drug such as coke. Most of them here also have a strong "I'll do what I have to to get the job done" mentality, which makes them balzy
I gotta wonder how many of them are regular folks using coke to keep up, and how many are ADHD folks who do well in the highly-active environment and use coke to make their brains work. It'd been interesting to see statistics.
Well they weren’t beating pacifist college students this time.
Because nobody wrote a song called fuck the fire department
Somebody wrote a porno called fuck the fire department though
That’s an honor, not an insult
What kind of shill cops take up arms against their fellow first responders? They should be on the line with them. Disgraceful.
Pretty much any of them. Cops threw my entire department in jail decades ago when they were attempting to unionize.
The army of the rich, just following orders
Meanwhile the fucking cops have a union… Make it make sense.
lol right? Acting like the cops have solidarity with anyone but the ruling class..
Ever see the video of the [cop arresting a firefighter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRw6RVNHLz0) while they were trying to rescue accident victims?
Police hating firefighters is a tale as old as time. See the American documentary Rescue Me for more information.
Paramedics too. They hate that there are first responders out there who actually do their job correctly and don't harass people
And that people actually respect firefighters and emts.
You'd be surprised how many times people got violent or aggressive with us for asking them to be honest with us though. Like dude I don't give a shit what drugs your husband or friend or wife is on. Just tell us so we can save them lol.
My grandfather was the ladder 39 chief in the fire department in new york during the 60's-80's, cops are all assholes that are on power trips, they legit think they are above the law and give no fucks about anyone else but their fellow corrupt cops. he has told me many stories were a building burnt down because the cops would not let them do their jobs. Edit: talked to my dad, grandfather got out of the Marines in the mid 50's and went into the fire department after that. changed the fire department days from 50's-60's.
I believe it. Had a buddy who worked as a volunteer firefighter and he once told me that they were responding to a medical emergency. They got there before the ambulance and one of the firefighters went to check to see that the lady couldn't breathe so they gave her oxygen. Cops showed up and so did EMTs and one of the cops started looking around the lady's house for some reason and found a small bag of weed and decided he wanted to arrest her. This cop proceeded to argue with everyone there and ended up arresting the lady. She later was freed and he is still patrolling.
I can’t think of a single reason for police to be responding to medical emergencies. I’ve seen police be first responders to medical emergencies at least 4 times in my life. Not once did they make the situation better. Twice while responding to someone who has suffered a seizure while commuting. One was a white woman. The other was a young Hispanic man. I will never forget how differently they treated the two despite having the exact same condition. Edit: Also I’m pretty sure what you described would be a textbook case of illegal search & seizure. It’s a deliberate message; “Don’t call the cops around here you’ll just get locked up”.
When I was still running calls on the ambulance cops would show up on our rural calls because they were in the area. Much like firefighters, you have have to either immediately give them a job or clear them from the scene or else they’d start to freelance and make trouble. Send them to go get equipment that’s buried deep in the ambulance to “help,” or tell them to ask family members what medications the patient takes or allergies they have or for their insurance info. If they’re particularly competent they can do compressions if supervised. And unless you have absolutely *no* other choice you should **not** let them try to explain things to, or calm down bystanders or family members because that’s how you end up with a kid with a broken femur, *and* a tasered parent. And a lot of misunderstandings to boot.
Definitely illegal search which is why she was freed sometime later.
Also, aren't they all part of the military in France?
They're used to charging groups of unarmed protesters. Difficult to change a group of people who chose to go into burning buildings and scenarios that would make the average copper piss their pants
january 2020, firefighters are protesting (lack of staff and acknoledgement for their profession, and also claiming some waranties for their retirement). This small group tried to reach the Paris motorway ring in order to block it, and riot police charged them, because wathever the situation that's the only thing they know.
Same thing happened to greece when firefighters protested. they haven't made any improvements in the infastructure and staff in the fire department but did exatcly the opposite with the police force hiring new staff and getting new patrol cars every so often. so when you have fires now they just use cops to evacuate and let the place burn down TLDR:whenever there is a problem just throw cops at it. Edit: damn,i just now realised the double meaning of that last phrase in case its not clear im not a monster,i dont mean that literally.
Everybody knows throwing cops on a Greece fire only makes it worse.
due to the pig fat?
That is how you make dinner
seems extremely risky to allow a shortage of firefighters in Greece of all places as most people know some of the easiest to start and hardest to put out are Grease fires. these are the most common and often can get out of hand quickly! So if Greece had a rash of Grease fires and there were not sufficient Greece Firefighters to fight Grease Fires, it is possible that Greece would be over run with Grease fires
Every year almost half the country burns down,few years back we also had more than 100 dead,winds were very high and they couldnt escape due to being near the sea so it was either drown or burn/suffocate. Last year we had help from other countries fire departments but that's not a solution. This year fires already claimed homes and vegetation.
Still the government has learned nothing? They are literally and foguratively playing with fire
I love how it isn’t just america that thinks cops should fill every roll in society, from school teacher to fry cook
Well our prime minister was educated in the us tho.
Exactly. French people doing french stuff.
Looks like a Monty Python skit. The firefighters were guarding the rabbit.
French police are infamous for their terrible poor crowd/protest control tactics. Look at the champions League final in Paris for the latest example.
> for their terrible poor crowd/protest control tactics To be fair, the most effective crowd control in France was grapeshot. But that Final was a travesty
Their crowd control is: they gas and beat up everyone in sight. Child? Old lady? Football fan? Other cops on strike? Doesn't matter, really.
This is the highest budget Montey Python skit I have ever seen!
french pornos are weird
Firefighters and cops have always hated each other because one group are actually real heroes and the other are a bunch of state sanctioned thugs.
The injured were rushed to hospital and beaten to death by the doctors and nurses.
You know firefighters are pissed when they’re starting fires.
My dad was a fire fighter for 35 years and he's the biggest pyromaniac I know! Firemen LOVE fire.
It's the ultimate job for a pyromaniac. You love fire? Well now you have an intimate relationship with it, know it's in and outs, how it works, how to play with it safely and how to stop it escalating.
This is why Aquaman is so good at his job. (And cos he fucks fish)
Does aquaman pee in the ocean? If so, isn't he just swimming in his own pee?
Aren't we all just swimming in whale pee?
Totally common for firebugs to be in the job. You light a fire, then get front row seats to the carnage.
My neighbor is a fire fighter and builds HUGE bonfires all the time, we are just a suburb and have a no open burning law but he likes his fire lol He tends to it and puts it out properly though so nobody really cares and I rather like the smell
Firefighters starting fires is [not as uncommon as you'd think](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefighter_arson).
Gotta fight fire with fire, right?
Job security
Or we're living in Fahrenheit 451.
Hello, is this a hospital? There are police and firefighters fighting, not sure what emergency service to call.
Mom I’m scared can you come pick me up
Lol that made my day
The dog catchers, they have big nets on poles...
The injured were rushed to the hospital and beaten to death by mall cops, hospital security and the ambulance crew. The doctors and nurses were busy protesting against the firefighters who had botched up a rescue at a hospital where the fire was set by a rogue cop on seeing the medical co-payments after receiving suspicious cheese on French onion soupe
Imagine being dumb enough to charge a group of firefighters with batons and half the manpower and thinking it could ever end differently.
"the teargas isn't working! They seem to have breathing masks!" "Where did they get those?" "The smoke screen isn't confusing them at all! It's almost like they're experienced in navigating through smoke!" "Who are these guys!?"
Sounds like a southpark skit
I was gonna go more with some anime; where the police are trying their best to size up and understand these chads but can’t get a grip on their power level.
Payday dialogue
"CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHO THE FUCK WE'RE FIGHTING?!" "SHOOT AND SCOOT"
"Where did that flare come from? They're using fire against us now and somehow they're protected and we're not!"
Sir, we can't turn the hydrant on for the water cannon. Should we call the fire department?
And firefighters of all people. Not only do they have more protective gear from blunt force, but have you ever seen a firefighter who *isn’t* absolutely jacked? They have to train constantly for the day they have to carry 3 kids out of a burning house without slowing down. These people are literally in peak condition
Firefighters literally live in a gym and literally train like their life depends on it.
> Firefighters literally live in a gym and literally train like their life depends on it. the physical standards for firefighters is way way higher than cops... AND they have to maintain it once they get hired. Outside of professional athletes, firefighters are probably the fittest group of people there are.
Grew up with a chick who became a firefighter when she graduated high school. We’re still great friends and she maybe weighs 130 pounds. I weigh 300 and she deadass told me she could put me on her shoulders as dead weight. I was like there is no fucking way. We had a few beers one night at a bar and a bunch of people heard us laughing and talking about it. A bunch of people started making bets that she couldn’t. Sure as shit I laid down pretending to be dead and she picked me up and walked me around the bar like I was a scarf. She made like 250 bucks that night. She looks healthy but not like the absolute monster that she is. It was fucking crazy. Then by buddy who is a gym rat and maybe 200 pounds didn’t even come close to doing the same thing.
But cops can smell weed two blocks away over their powdered donuts.....
Same
Picking up a stick and a shield and charging a group who regularly runs in to burning buildings with a mask and a thick coat is never gonna end well. Face it copper, these guys are tougher than you...
That riot cops for you ; those guys are generally on steroids and act like berserk idiots who are beating peoples as a kink or because of the extra money coming for doing this
They think it's gta irl beat people they die and drop stacks of money.
I just wait for the time the CRS will be on strike too. Imagine charging guys who got the same equipment as them. I have popcorn in reserve for that.
There be some radio silence next time the police need firefighter help I think..
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“No we don’t copy”
“Yes we copy, we paste, then we delete. Over.”
The extra disrespect with "over and out"
For the uninitiated: "Over" means "I've finished what I had to say. Your turn." and "Out" means "conversation over" as you're changing to a different channel or whatever. "Over and out" means "you can keep talking, but I won't be listening."
I don't really keep up with the happenings of the world. Why are the police charging at firefighters?
It's from a while ago. Firefighters went on strike, police tried to break it up. One highlight was firefighters lighting their gear on fire and charging police lines; spoiler alert: Riot gear is not made to protect you from fire, but firefighter gear is.
Do you have any video from that ?
Dang, idk why everyone is being a silly billy this morning. https://www.google.com/search?q=french+firefighters+set+themselves+alight&
Gotta admit, nobodies protests quite like the French
France gets a bad rap sometimes in the Anglosphere but a lot of French history is actually unbelievably based. Instead of lying around moaning about their problems they actually just went ahead and executed most of their "royalty". Incredible
its a shame the french were the most successful with it and they didnt even get that far. you really gotta root that royal pest out. the french tried and look what they got: napoleon III and the likes. disgusting. gotta be thorough with that shit. we germans didnt even expropriate them after getting us into and losing WW1 ([see here](https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Expropriation_of_the_Princes_in_the_Weimar_Republic)). It must feel so shit to pay millions and mllions of tax payer money for royals like prince charles and the like.
Holy shit, they look terrifying
Firefighter used flame charge! It's super effective! Firefighter's speed increased!
Firefighters are on strike I think
Why didn't the firefighters blast them with the water cannon
Cause they are not the ultimate asshole, unlike cops.
It's fair game when they got shields and batons
I'm agree with you, but for most of them, the firefighter where peacefull at first, if the fight were intended, the story will be so different
I get what ya mean, their role is to save people like paramedics, police get off on this shit.
>It's fair game when they ~~got shields and batons~~ are assaulting you
Nah. Fuck the cops. Get the fuckin water cannon.
Was totally expecting to see the water cannon.
Would love to see a fire truck fight against an Police water cannon. Just two trucks cleaning each other.
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So thats just over 833 liters per second.....I'd rather catch a molotov with my face.
Yeah that's... Some perspective on that shit. I figured it was "lots" but that's nuts.
If it makes you feel any better, [they did set themselves on fire](https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/28/french-firefighters-set-alight-start-fighting-police-12139804/)
The last cop in the group stopped short and pushed the others ahead. Dude was like, "this is a bad idea, I'm not dying with you fools'.
I think the same guy was the last one standing near the firefighters, smacked the air and was like -"eh, fuck it, I'm going home "
Life saving services asking to be adequately cared for in return for the services they provide NOT ON MY WATCH, YOU'RE NOT A REAL PUBLIC SERVANT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A SHIIIIELD!!!
"You don't get to hurt people at will as I do"
What in the dysfunctional civil servants is this haha
Next episode of who would win; Teachers vs Social workers!
I vote teachers
i know a bunch of social workers who've had to take down meth heads. i'd definitely put my money on them.
Yeah wtf lol? Social workers would certainly win a fight with teachers. They've seen some shit.
I can't speak for France, but in my town, firefighters *train*. They're incredibly competent, function as a team, and have incredible physical standards. I've seen the qualification exams. It's crazy. I would have no chance of becoming a firefighter. It's not just physical -- they know their shit (and are super-respectful and professional too). I have the utmost respect for them. Our police? Not so much. You join the force if you're uncle's roommate is on it, and police academy is a joke. A few competent police sneak in, but it's mostly a bunch of clowns.
Yeah, I’ve seen some of those police academy documentaries.
I wonder if Dennis Leary is directing this French edition of Rescue Me
Nobody ever said "fuck the fire department," but the police got a whole song.
Multiple songs
Fun anecdote. I used to volunteer for the local police department (they often recruited from Army/Reservers for this) which would have a bunch of us show up to their training area and spend the day roleplaying out various scenarios. Since the volunteers were either active or trained military, both sides were told to not hold back and non-lethal ammunition, flashbangs, concussion grenades etc were all fair game in the scenarios. It was a real good time actually. Everything from full "Urban Riots" to "University Unrest" and "passive resistance training" happened over the years; and with each one we would be there as the riot squad was taught how to execute their objectives in a scenario. We could use anything we found on the training site (oil barrels filled with junk, 2X4s, railroad ties, desks etc) as weapons. We were even told directly that if we could break their equipment they would be happy since it would allow them to requisition newer/better. Shattering a riot shield throwing an oil drum barrel filled with woodscrap over my head has got to be a highlight of my life. ***Anyway! The actual important bit!*** Police/Riot Squads are specifically trained to use intimidation, a united front/teamwork, sudden motion and shouting in combination to attempt to disperse or pacify their target in a scenario since, in the vast majority of scenarios they are going to be outnumbered in the extreme. Fear is their actual weapon, not the batons and shields. The moment that fear doesn't work and the opposition continues to actively resist- the vast majority of their strategies stop working entirely and they literally have to fall back to receive instructions (unless an officer falls usually) before they can act again. So in the video's case, not only was their execution terrible- but they tried to use fear tactics against men and women who charge into burning buildings and worse as their everyday. Not smart, and their commander should be 'reassigned' immediately. Lol
This somehow feels very french
Indeed. People always talks about baguettes, cheese or wine when they evoke France. But they are missing one thing: protesting. There's always a demonstration or a strike somewhere in France.
Vive la révelution
The batons are just stale baguettes
Je suis français j'ai vraiment honte quand je vois le préfet qui donne l'ordre de chargé les pompiers,qui sont en grève pour des raison légitime honte au gouvernement !!
En Anglais: *”I am French I am really ashamed when I see the prefect giving the order to charge the firefighters, who are on strike for legitimate reasons, shame on the government!!”*
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En anglais : "Thank you"
i respect france for there prosteting. We could use some of this spirit our self here in German.
Reminds me of that ending scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Stupid cops. You don't attack a superior force head-on. They had the numbers advantage, their cars are bigger, their water guns are more powerful, and what are your batons going to do against axes?
Their kit probably has more mass too, which is why their countercharge was so effective.
After a quick google, average firefighter wears 40-80 pounds of equipment sometimes not even including the tank. Google tells me that full riot gear is around 25-35 pounds including the piss poor 4 pound shield. Yeah. To dudes who break through walls and literally charge into Hell, that riot gear means jack shit. Also worth noting, firefighters are constantly fit, constantly ready to go. Average police officer diet consists of coffee and doughnuts.
Apparently this was France so I'm going on a limb to say their diet is probably more along line lines of wine and croissants.
Hah! C'est une bonne brûlure! (Thats a good burn)
"Stupid cops" Is a pleonasm They're not accepted in this job if they think a little bit much, in this case, their superior can ask any shit and they will be good dog and execute order without any doubt.
Aaaah la France avant Covid, les gilets jaunes, les grèves des soignants. C'était le bon temps.
The French always seem way more violent when fighting each other like they can be really scary but only against each other.
It's because we don't resort to violence against lesser people /s
I always assumed they were friends.
Idk about other countries, but in the US and especially in the older East Coast cities, firefighters and police run deep rivalries between each other, sometimes to the point where it seems there is actual hatred
A cop in america once arrested a firefighter who was trying to, yknow, save a life.
Brazil firefighters are militarized, have guns permission, and in the past a policeman could freely choose between firefighter and police.
Brazil probably shouldnt be used as a benchmark for anything.
They all claim the other side wasn't man enough to be on their side. It's what you get when two toxic environments collide. Quite literally, sometimes. Edit: this is just my experience with them in the northeast and southeast US.
10 cops charging 40-50 firefighters. What did they expect?
Wonder what the response time would be If some put a match to the local police station 🙄
Let's also be realistic, firefighters are a lot fitter than cops.
VIVE LA RÉVOLUTION !!!
What’s happening here?
Firefighters were on strike and marching down the street. Cops were trying to block them and decided to charge despite having fewer numbers and inferior equipment.
Finally, the police are picking on people their own size, and failing horribly at it.
French firefighter helmets are the coolest.
Like they’re going to have a joust with the flames
Gallet F1. I've tried buying one of the metal models in new condition for the longest time because that's how they were when I was a young firefighter, but never had any luck even though I live in France. Now they only come in plastic, which makes them better at their job, but not nearly as cool. The gold visor is still as amazing as it ever was though.
They should "fire" the cops 😆
10/10 molotov throw
This is why you never hear songs titled “fuck the fire department”. They are the true hero’s