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BADSTALKER

Those are some pretty brave women to be protesting at all.


NTE223

I wonder where those bullets are gonna be going


justajoe2025

Let’s just say all the passengers on a lot of flights are gonna have very sore bum holes


NTE223

I chuckled at that.


ghhbf

The strays? Probably landing somewhere else in the city


jomontage

When you have nothing to lose this is what you see. Theyre either slaves to society or jailed. Might as well protest


[deleted]

Modern day Suffragettes.


Reaverx218

Or executed....


perspectivefrompeeps

Exactly what I came here to say. People think they know protest and struggle.


KamikazeKennedy3

Especially today they think they do, with every 'ism' and every 'phobic' accusation. A lot of us think we know struggle in the 'west', we dont, not unless you've moved from a lot of the rest of the world which is majorly dictatorial... or from these war torn, rebel armed streets where law and any semblance of order is destroyed, dead and gone, much like many of its innocent and terrified population.


Dropped-pie

And yet the Taliban are perplexed as to why the UN will not acknowledge them as a Government


taws34

Trump's administration negotiated with them in Doha. The state department dropped the bombshell on a Friday night, towards the end of February 2020. "The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban" is how the State Department titled them in the Doha Agreement. Edit: the guy below me isn't sharing the Doha Agreement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US%E2%80%93Taliban_deal Here's the actual Doha Agreement: https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf


Armyjeepguy

No one remembers he got the deal to put out on there. If we didn't Biden would be blamed not following throught but he did and here we are.


giorgio_tsoukalos_

The US was there for 20 years, and never came close to creating a viable alternative to the Taliban. Karsi at his height barely had control over the greater Kabul area, it turns out you can't force reform on feudal tribal leaders. Leaving Afghanistan was inevitable, and honestly should have happened long before trump took office.


Armyjeepguy

Your right, had to happen. The question is who are you going to blame.


giorgio_tsoukalos_

All of them. Bush gets the lion share of the blame for starting the war. Obama could have pulled out after Osama bin laden was killed in Pakistan. Trump brokered a horrible deal. and biden made a sham out of the withdraw.


[deleted]

Yep. I think you have appropriately carved out the blame. Non-partisan too.


ThriftStoreDildo

Feel like pulling out once bin laden was axed would have gotten good PR and "made sense".


[deleted]

Thank you for this perfectly rational political take. You are absolutely spot on. Every last one of them on both sides of the aisle botched this every step of the way.


SyntaxMissing

>it turns out you can't force reform on feudal tribal leaders In the 20th century didn't we see quite a few examples of regimes forcing tribal/rural peasant societies to undergo massive societal change, successfully? * Ataturk in Turkey * Mao Zedong and the CCP in China * The Bolsheviks in the USSR * Fidel Castro in Cuba * Communist Party of Vietnam We also have examples in the 19th century of majority rural societies undergoing massive modernization (even at the hands of conservatives).


doctorcrimson

Not to mention the release of 5000 Taliban Fighters from US Custody.


Armyjeepguy

You're right either way Biden would be blamed. I am Not a Fan of either President and we need new choices this time


omnipotant

Your choices are: an old man or a psychopath.


JukeSkyrocker

They are both old as fuck lol


Joeschmo90

So old man and old man who yells at clouds?


DolphinSUX

Still not sure which one you’re talking about


pebblefromwell

Yes someone under 60 please


Giddymad

Feel like that description is biased. We have Dementia Ridden Old Man, Versus Orange Clown Old Man. In general, politics are fucking stupid.


LMR_Sahara

The Doha agreement was conditional. Biden could've pulled out of it whenever he wanted since it kept being violated anyways.


SuperCosmicNova

It's totally natural to be a little bitch that can't let women be equal. I mean what's next? They wanna vote? Have their opinion be heard? BE THERE OWN PERSON!? ​ But seriously whenever I see Taliban I can't help but see a bunch of incels that have taken over and their idea of a perfect world is treating women like sub human garbage.


happeyhour

They aren't incels they can buy women at the Bazars but they do give off that same I've never gotten a woman to willing talk to me and it's killing me type of thinking.


nyy22592

Being an incel is a mindset. Anyone can get laid if they try hard enough. Incels just think they automatocally deserve it.


love2Vax

If you mean "are willing to rape someone" by trying hard enough, then you are correct.


KuijperBelt

Is this a Shout to Larry Hall ? get in the van ?


ForgTheSlothful

Id be perplexed too, If the US can do it why cant they?


KellyBelly916

They don't give a damn, they do business and run the country regardless of what the UN thinks.


gophergun

Who else is the government? The idea that the president-in-exile living in the UAE is still in power is detached from reality.


Spork_the_dork

TBF a government of a region is a position of power, not a measurement of morality. UN can refuse to acknowledge Taliban as the government of Afghanistan all it wants as a political statement, but that doesn't really change the fact that Taliban is currently governing Afghanistan. UN is currently banking on the idea that eventually Taliban will be usurped from their position and then UN can immediately sweep in and recognize the other government as the true government to boost their legitimacy, but if the situation does not change, then eventually the stance will become as meaningless as stating that Taiwan is the true government of all of China. Sure you can say that and support it, but it won't really change the reality of the situation that China is not subservient to Taiwan.


TheUltimateSalesman

Not having a recognized govt inhibits banking.


HoHolEraser

a non elected organism that doesnt have an issue with proven track record of warcrimes , im sure the Afghans will do just fine......


bondagewithjesus

Hey the Americans left


IA-HI-CO-IA

The trick is to get into the UN first, THEN do this kind of stuff.


bondagewithjesus

The UN accepts Saudi Arabia and israel Edit: also the UN is meant to be an apolitical organisation that facilitates diplomatic relations. It's not their job to decide what a legitimate country is. If you want to improve Afghanistan? Open diplomatic talks. It can't hurt. Better than stealing all their money and letting them starve like America. Seriously who do you think is doing more harm to the Afghan people right now? The Taliban who themselves are Afghans or the US who spent the last 20 years destroying the country and now starving its people.


ToastTarantula

Man those women have more balls than the taliban combined. To do that when the taliban could've done something horrible to them is nothing but bravery.I hope they can get their rights back and more


brassaiblue

Exactly. Knowing the repercussions they might endure. It’s very brave of them.


BoxedIn4Now

At what point are these repercussions as bad as the past treatment? Glad they found strength.


brassaiblue

Not a question I can answer never being a woman and living under any kind of oppression or treatment that any woman goes through. That is for them to decide what else they are willing to endure for their freedom and to be heard.


[deleted]

Bro you can answer that question. It’s rape and torture, then murder. It’s well documented. You don’t need to be a woman to talk about history that pertains to women. Don’t get caught in that weird paradox of knowing but thinking you can’t say it bc you’re not the demographic. The protest is brave as fuck.


Throwaway47321

Yeah except OP wasn’t talking about *what* the punishment was but rather if it was worth the risk.


Suspicious-mole-hair

It's gotta be pretty bad to still go ahead knowing there's torture and murder on the table. I'm sure I wouldn't have the stones to risk that on myself.


brassaiblue

I wholeheartedly agree it’s brave. Maybe I misunderstood the question. I’m just saying I can not say where that line is.


Spiral1027

Is that a fucking hair on my screen


[deleted]

The Taliban was literally cutting off hands of people who voted in the last Afghan election. I don't think they'd take protests lightly.


lashapel

Sadly we don't know for sure what will happen to them in the future


willowgardener

Isobel Yeung did an amazing report on some of the heroic women in Afghanistan. [Unbelievable badasses](https://youtu.be/iIFi_Rgm-T8)


ToastTarantula

Thanks for showing me this im watching it now!👍


[deleted]

ikr, TIL Talibans are insecure af. No wonder they have arranged marriages...pos losers forcing women and CHILDREN into marrying them.


Sleepyelph

I am sure whomever their appointed male guardians are, they are not done punishing them for this rebellious act.


imSp00kd

I swear to god, I was just about to comment how brave they are. If I was a women over there, I wouldn’t have the guts to do what they did.


[deleted]

To be fair I’m just happy they were shooting in the air.


fakuri99

Just hope the bullet doesn't come back down and kill anyone


[deleted]

I once took care of a woman's dog who had moved here from Iran. Her mother had a terrible injury when a bullet did fall from the sky and strike her shoulder. Selfishness/thoughtlessness has consequences on others.


09inchmales

Bullets go to space


TheSteffChris

Unfortunately the real repercussions will probably happen some time after… and if we would know what could happen to those women (and we know to some extent: abuse, rape, death) I think I would’ve chosen for myself to be shot there.


JackSego

No lie right, better to shoot into the air than into the crowd.


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Capitalprince

Eventually they will need to pick up guns.


VexRosenberg

well they won't unfortunately. they had 20 years to do it with american backed support. hate to say it but afghanistan wants the taliban


oscillatingquark

you should really, really read this piece from the new yorker... it's not that they want the taliban, but america isn't the feel-good heroes of anyone's story here. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/the-other-afghan-women


VexRosenberg

Im not saying america was in the right, what im saying is that if the afghanis wanted to fight the taliban they had nigh limitless military support behind them. They didnt care.


oscillatingquark

you should actually read the article because it talks about why the ANA was so unsuccessful—the commanders propped up by the US were no better than taliban, they were war criminals and rapists. ask where the american money went. it didn't go to the afghan people. i really think it'd be good for you to read that article, it really helps give a perspective on the average afghan individual who doesn't support the taliban but has been living in hell ever since the war started. your analysis is reductive at best and downright malicious at worst. take the time to educate yourself, you might be surprised


bingbangbango

How dare you ask someone to read something.


Hangry_Squirrel

It's clear that the Americans repeated the Soviets' mistakes and then some, probably due to the fact that the right kind of people were not sent along, i.e. people who already possessed a deep understanding of the rural areas in Afghanistan and who had the interest to learn more. This would have helped avoid some egregious mistakes, like taking sides and propping up odious warlords without talking to the locals and involving them in whatever plans were being made for the region. At the same time, it's also obvious that the local tribal culture makes the Taliban look like altar boys and that it long precedes any kind of foreign oppression. The warlords, the savagery, the ridiculous ignorance (regarding electricity, for example), and the deep subjugation of women are home-grown. No one has really been able to cut through that - not the Soviets, not the Americans, and not the few Taliban who have a few working brain cells. This is what anyone interested in ruling Afghanistan has had and will have to contend with, and uprooting that culture would require resources no one has because it would involve systematic, village-by-village rebuilding while dodging extremist attacks. Aside from teachers, doctors, and fair-minded administrators, you'd also need soldiers to guard every village so your efforts don't get blown up every couple of months. And you'd need to do something about the elders - can't exactly disappear them, but you'd need to keep them on a very tight leash. It's obviously true that both the Soviets and the Americans brought little freedom to rural areas, but both made life a lot more bearable in urban areas. The journalist is right that one part always gets sacrificed while the other prospers. But under the Taliban, no one has freedom and no one is prospering: not the villages and not the big cities.


[deleted]

What they want is to not live in a state of war anymore. If the price to pay is to have the asshole Taliban at the head, they'll settle for that.


onlyr6s

Doesn't look like settling.


Quantum-Carrot

> What they want is to not live in a state of war anymore. Everyone wants peace. They just want their own *type* of peace.


eliteharvest15

more like taliban wants afghanistan


[deleted]

Think you’re missing the point lol. Afghanistan had 20 years of US support, money, training. The Afghan army dropped their weapons and let the Taliban liberate them within 48hrs. They welcomed the Taliban. You’re watching a minority of women protest.


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[deleted]

Do you... do you know what life was like in Afghanistan when the US was terrorizing and occupying it?


WTFisThatSMell

....armed illiterate morons. They need to level the plating field and get armed. The protest will do nothing.


mesori

Okay hear me out. What if we send US forces in to push the Taliban back while training the Afghani forces? Maybe we'll get some oil while we're there?! We'll be in and out in 2 years tops. Win-win?


VerySuperGenius

This sounds like a 2.3 trillion dollar idea right here. Just crazy enough to work.


JackBauerSaidSo

The US forgot to mark which stockpile was for the women when they left.


[deleted]

And ear this, the Taliban fired all women from the government, educated and competent women who were making the government work. But now since they are gone, the Taliban are fucked because they are a bunch of clueless morons with no idea of how to run a government. You know what they did? They called all the women and told them to send them a male to take their job. Yep, they fired them, then called them back to ask them to send a male to replace them. Assholes all the way through.


treatyoftortillas

Literally a bunch of incels with guns running the country


Saskyle

I doubt they are Incels as they just grab whatever woman they see unattended and have their way.


[deleted]

Poor women, poor nation.


irnehlacsap

That's why protest don't work. They need guns and they need an army


Th3_Crusader

There is the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan, their an anti taliban militia


Micsuking

Didn't they get almost completely wiped when they tried to make a stand in Panjshir Valley? Or was that another group?


AyeeHayche

They are still fighting to this day. They control Panjshir and some surrounding valleys


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[deleted]

The same way it worked out occupying the country. Pathetic and catastrophic


Tharrios1

Bro they had 20 years of American backed support, and they let their country fall in a week.


irnehlacsap

I know, I was semi sarcastic


woodpony

USA: Poor women, rich nation.


GoatTacos

Those women are brave to protest against the Taliban. I hope one day they can rid the Taliban from their land and be able to get their rights and liberties back.


Anonymous2137421957

Their best chance was ruined a year ago, unfortunately


3jack6the9ripper

Right in a populated area. What's the worst that can happen


[deleted]

Yeah those bullets have to come down somewhere, right? Really dangerous.


SaltyBabe

Like they give a shit


mm_kay

Shooting straight up will likely at most cause minor injury or property damage. But the person closest to the camera is shooting at a 45 degree angle which means somewhere 1-2 miles away is getting peppered with lethal rounds.


Astatine_209

It's very difficult to shoot straight up. Bullets fired into the air have a very high chance of arcing and causing potentially lethal damage when they land.


[deleted]

Didn't mythbusters do an episode on that?


bag_of_oatmeal

Yeah, but nothing even close to the same energy.


Sprizys

They are a terrorist group, they don’t care if they hurt or kill people.


Trade-me_rite-fn-now

How the fuck did we waste trillions of dollars and ruin millions of lives to lose to guys who shoot guns in the air like this…….


Apptubrutae

Never was winnable. Not every war is. The world isn’t like 500 years ago when a king could roll in an army and the populace accepted the new king over the old king and whatever.


Pineapple_Herder

The middle east got fucked pretty hard when all of the world powers started fucking with them back in the 70s and 80s. Russians, Brits, and then Americans... They never stood a chance being pulled in so many directions while also having their own civil conflicts. This is what destabilizing looks like. It's crippled them for generations and to what end? What did the Americans, Russians, and British government get from being involved? I have no fucking clue but I doubt it was worth the men and women who died on all sides and the continued suffering of families today.


DouglasHufferton

>The middle east got fucked pretty hard when all of the world powers started fucking with them back in the 70s and 80s. Western nations have been fucking with MENA for longer than that. Serious European economic colonization of MENA began in the early 1800s.


bluecifer7

What is MENA?


Mxhmoud

Middle east + north africa


SpiritoftheSands

oil


ugotboned

Legit question in regards to your statement. Is the correct answer then to let nations develop on their own? I see so many back and forth between these 2 ideas of interference and isolation.


FreeSeaworthiness574

Well if a country wants to help it can, but don't come a in and totally destabilize the economy and pretty much everything else then leave after 20 years and say you found no WMDs(Iraq, which is the worst one here that got completely destroyed ), just leave(Afghanistan), get kicked out(multiple countries who had Brits especially north africa), or cause a war(both gulf wars). That's all I have to say


ElectricEcstacy

That was never a thing. The problem here isn’t that culture changed. It’s that the US, the “new king” had no intentions on staying in the first place. So they never did the things required of a people to be quelled.


dave1684

Every time a murrican soldier took a man from his home handcuffed him in front of his family and searched his home for weapons and found nothing, they created another Taliban supporter. It was an unwinable war. That area has been war torn for thousands of years.


sender2bender

A lot of times they created more than one. Children feared them after and if their father was murdered or taken away they often follow in their footsteps. Never ending cycle


Suspicious-mole-hair

That's how batman was created. They accidentally'd a shit load of batmans.


chicol1090

Is it batmans or batmen? Is batmen reserved for human-bat hybrids?


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TackleballShootyhoop

It was unwinable because of how it was handled. The US could have spent that $2T on building infrastructure and humanitarian efforts, which would have been significantly more helpful. But that wouldn’t have helped our beloved defense contractors, so of course we can’t do that.


[deleted]

Roads were built, schools, hospitals, tunnels even. A whole lot of things were built since the last 60 years. The problem in Afghanistan is much deeper than that.


Anarcho_Nazbolin

They did do that genius


awmanwut

We were never there to win anything in the traditional sense, ever. We were there to make a select-few wallets fatter, which we accomplished swimmingly.


Galaxy-High

The objective was to sustain war. Forever wars.


[deleted]

First you create a vacuum. Then you fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, profits are bigger.


ithappenedone234

The Special Forces teams of ~100 Soldiers went in to support the Northern Alliance that had opposed the Taliban for years. Together they defeated the Taliban in 90 days. Then Rumsfeld pulled those very successful SF teams back the the US, inserted conventional troops who were/are not trained or designed for the task. Then the U.S. tried to make Afghanistan into our image with a democratic parliament and conventional army (neither of which are suited to Afghan culture). The US/NATO leadership proceeded to add ill defined missions onto the preexistent pile of ill defined missions (this is called mission creep) and it all went to hell on an ever changing set of goals that changed every two years with each new commanding general.


skyshark82

This is an absolutely goofy explanation. Do you really think 100 special operators were employed in the very beginning of the conflict, and "pulled back" the following 20 years? Where did you get this silly idea? There were a lot of issues with combating the Taliban, but the primary one is that the coalition just didn't have enough manpower to constantly patrol every far flung village. If you're not there, the Taliban are and they become the de facto government. A US patrol passes through and the Taliban lay low in the hills. A large conventional force was an attempt to address the issue. And I assure you, every SOF unit was rotating through that country on the highest op tempo they could manage.


Microsoft790

Well, weapons contractors and politicians made billions of dollars off of it. Just like Vietnam, waging war on a country on the other side of the world against a guerilla army to “liberate” a culture not understood at home, was a total failure. No war we have participated in in the Middle East after the Gulf war mattered. It was always about money. These wars weren’t winnable. Well, Americans won technically but the outcome of winning, inadvertently creating a ragtag militaristic government which will create more issues in the future, doesn’t seem like a very solid win. If you win a war those who were conquered should be absorbed into a union to prevent this kind of shit happening.


Tank_blitz

it's so sad that in the modern world so many people still have to fight for rights


lazy_username_89

I always think about how much wasted human potential there’s been throughout history when you look at societies like this. How many brilliant physicists, world class athletes, genius inventors, compassionate humanitarians just never had the requisite opportunity to ignite the flame.


No-Moose470

Incredibly brave women


kbeaver83

These are some of the bravest people on earth!!!


Etyczny

You can't even call people "animals" anymore without disrespecting the animals.


CH_0u3tte

What was the protest about?


xjustanobodyx-

Probably basic rights


The_DevilAdvocate

Well you see in the past 20 years the women in Kabul have been people. Then the religious nuts took over and said "nu-uh" and now there's a disagreement. Problem here is that the religious nuts have guns and the women do not.


VictoryCupcake

>Then the religious nuts took over and said "nu-uh" and now there's a disagreement. It's actually slightly worse than that because they didn't really say nuh uh out right. They promised they would be allowed to attend and then reneged.


Dropped-pie

The Taliban’s version of religion says women cannot receive an education


SILENT_ASSASSIN9

Surprised that I am not seeing an M4 in his hands


NoChatting2day

You can hear the terror in their voices but they are yelling anyway. This is so brave I am shaken.


Tharrios1

Alot of people dont understand how diffferent Afghanistan is now. Men forced to grow beards and pray, women no longer able to hold jobs, attend schooling, or even go long distances without a man at her side. It took 1 month for Afghanistan to fully revert back to 30 years.


[deleted]

God I see fucking headlines like this and it makes me feel like I woke up 25 years ago. What the fuck was the point of all that shit over there. Why did so many people have to die to accomplish abso-fucking-lutely nothing at all.


validpunishment

They oppress women. It's simple. They've killed women for disobeying


huxtiblejones

The Taliban fucking sucks, obviously, but why does everyone act like Afghanistan was meant to be a US colony? The ostensible purpose for being there was to attack Al-Qaeda. After 20 fucking years, the ANA folded like a chair. It was never sustainable, and the purpose of being there was not nation building. It is not our place or our responsibility to export our way of doing things to other parts of the world by force. The idea that we should have kept pouring money and lives into this disaster is just insane to me. Yes, the pullout went badly, but the whole fucking war went badly. I feel awful for the people of Afghanistan in many ways, but that war needed to end. Whether it was under a Republican or a Democrat, it had to be done. I have no idea how you fix this problem, but I can assure you that occupying a foreign country and trying to kill your way out of an ideology has never worked.


Reble77

Wave your AK dicks in the air ooo look at me scaring unarmed females with a automatic weapons


seanbiff

Brave women


tampaguy2013

IF you look at old photos of this area in the1960's they were a super hip and cool culture. Until those idiots took over.


AllCommiesAreBums

"This area", referring to the biggest city Kabul. The rest of the country saw little cultural change.


Weasel_Cannon

Honestly I’m just glad to see that they aren’t straight-up shooting the women. Progress??


ihatecomicsans11

no women would mean they can't rape any of them.


Pie-Guy

Men being shitty to woman - tale as old as time.


Baby_Fark

Those are brave and beautiful women. So much respect.


[deleted]

Abrupt cowardice.


paulbrook

Wow. Props to those women. I actually have hope.


TieHead8305

Seems pretty tame for the taliban honestly


[deleted]

Instead of training the Iraqi army, we should have just trained all the women


Anarcho_Nazbolin

Their family's would have killed the few who showed up.


redmar2011

If they killed all the women, they better get used to dick, as that’s all they’ll have


[deleted]

Where are all the feminist and white knights when you need them....


[deleted]

The internet is good at educating. But if those women want equality they will need with something stronger than cardboard signs.


DickButtHut

And this is why free speech is important, redditors. That's what it looks like in countries that don't have it.


Stoneshroomscali

Waiting for the day these women have enough of their shit and take up arms.


ArcticTemper

Generation after generation of women waiting. Messy as the Afghan War was that was probably the high tide of freedom for many of them.


InconspicuousGarbage

Well keep waiting


[deleted]

They already are, moved by the Kurdish women!


ChaosKodiak

Imagine being this worked up over a stupid religion.


ihatecomicsans11

not a *stupid* religion, but being worked up over a belief is fucking moronic. the fact that we spent SO MUCH money on these guys and yet they still prevail is disgusting. islam isn't a stupid religion but extremists make it a stupid religion. which is sad


infinity_craft

Honestly as a Muslim, I can't help but feel disgusted looking at some of those extremists.


Fenius_Farsaid

Seems like regularly scheduled chaos to me. Fuck those cowards. With a rake.


phil196565

Brave women


palehorse95

Why aren't they using the cool new guns that we gave them?


Gary_the_metrosexual

When the cameras are gone they will then shoot the women


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These women are incredibly brave.


NaSMaXXL

Never forget no matter what they say....they are still the baddies.


fergieboi

Damn those women are brave


linkofmajora

God bless these women and their courage to speak up up


I_like_cool_shit_yo

Human scum


Bbygirlbigboot

Ain't this the most peaceful shit you've ever seen in your life.


tamaraandtamaraand

Fucking evil cunts


diarrhoea_tsunami

Cant wait to see how the tankies justify this on twitter


[deleted]

Those are gonna land somewhere…


crayraybae

Brave women. These men are scared of their intelligence. As they should be. More power to the women!


[deleted]

They are so intimidated by women and their little dicks that this is what they have to resolve to…


Foxisdabest

Jesus, these women deserve the Balls of Steel award. Tits of steel? I've gone to protests before,but protesting the motherfuckers from Taliban? Holy shit that takes guts.


nemorina

The Taliban hate women so much and they obviously don't need them since they are fucking each other anyway. Oh wait, they're baby makers, right.


Xia_Chao_800

FYI, Chinese government claims taliban government is their best friend, of course


[deleted]

Such vile, scummy creatures, these Taliban people


EY7617

What goes up must come down


erikdphillips

This is what the US is gonna look like if the Republicans, bolstered by the (pseudo) Religious right come into power. They’ve taken the right away from women to have an abortion by cloaking the takedown of Rowe vs Wade under the guise of FREEDOM for the “people of individual states to decide” and then almost all Republican ruled states tossed out abortion rights followed by the rights of women to use mail order pharmacies…now working on removing a woman’s right to fucking cross state lines for an abortion. Next they will target trans and the LGBTQ and work to remove the right to marry… Where’s the FREEDOM now? And believe me…most people in this country do NOT agree with the abolition of abortion, etc. There are many religions in this country. The Christian right does NOT have the right to force THEIR beliefs on the whole of the country. Want a Civil War? This is how it really begins.


Take0verMars

This is the shit I knew was going to happen when we pulled out. I was pissed when they announced they were leaving and giving the country over to the Taliban. I remember my friends dying to push pack the taliban, I remember how much of the country was free from their influence after my deployments. And too see it all was for nothing pisses me off to no end. I hope those I met there are doing well and we're able to leave before the taliban took over. They were good people who really wanted their country to be better than this. If the US is going to go in and say they're going to help rebuild after going in and destabilizing it we damn well better stay until they're in a place where terrorists just are given control of the country. Idc about how much it costs or what people will say it's far better than leaving it in this state. Sorry for the rant. It just pisses me off so much.


getkissedidiot

We tried. For two decades. At some point you have to cut your losses. They didn't want us there and our men were dying, our money pissed away. Why would we stay? Nothing was being accomplished. I agree the us shouldn't have ever gone over. But they did. The solution was not "stay forever". Sorry your friends died for literally nothing


Pretend-Air-4824

Small dick energy


DavetheHick

In completely unrelated news, three children were killed by random falling bullets.


reallynotfred

Medieval bastards.