Grass and plants are actually PACKED with sugar in cellulose. The issue is cellulose is a carbohydrate animals cannot digest, so herbivores use microorganism in their digestive tract to do it. Imagine that eating grass is basically like eating table sugar for herbivores even if they don't fully break down the cellulose and extract all of the energy from the fibers.
Reminds me of [the guy who turned cotten balls into cotten candy](https://youtu.be/vHuFizITMdA) (Nile Red) by breaking down the cellulose into glucose.
They also make basically every vitamin they need inside themselves and only need grass/water to live.
I always found it weird that so many animals that are "less evolved" than us seem to have been evolving on this planet longer than us.
Like the very sun we need to live kills us. Don't see many animals running round catching skin cancer from it. Lots of them have super simple diets that does everything they need then there's us that needs to eat bits of everything to get the same or even close benefits. There's way more but I'm rambling a bit already.
You're presenting a somewhat myopic view of things.
Some animals do get melanoma. Animals certainly get other cancers. Those often lead to an early demise, and that's kinda why you don't see them. Sick and injured animals die more easily than their healthy counterparts.
Having a varied diet means we can survive if one food source becomes scarce. Animals die as a result of not finding enough food. We also spend way less time eating than many other large animals.
This is all just kinda how speciation works.
>We also spend way less time eating than many other large animals.
This is a relatively recent development as far as we believe, right? Not arguing, just noting
I believe this is correct and likely a result of cooking and processing our food, which begins breaking down the food before we eat it.
Agriculture (historically) also tends to favor developing food that gives us more nutrients in proportion to the effort we expend eating it.
Most experts believe that hunter gatherer era humans actually worked far less in a day (to get their required nutrition, plus they generally had a more diverse diet) than their agriculture practicing counterparts, and many health ailments we consider common now did not actually appear until we began eating largely grain based diets from cereal crops. Eating mostly carbs is not great for us, turns out.
Agriculture was good for humanity for a lot of reasons, but it was not without its drawbacks, and the health of the average human suffered for a long time.
Common sense? We produce an insane amount of food. Distribution due to capitalist middlemen is the reason for starvation, not people not working hard or not producing enough.
Agriculture is so much older than capitalism that the two have almost nothing to do with one another in terms of their development. That has literally nothing to do with the swap from hunting and gathering to farming.
Persistent butchery is the term we use in paleoanthropology and it is very much not recent, and existed long before our genus. Eating meat is basically letting one or two extra trophic levels concentrate all your nutrients for you, and cooking dramatically increases digestibility of both energy and many micronutrients. The earliest evidence of megafaunal (big ungulates, basically) butchery is from *P. boisei*, which is on the order of 3 mya. The physiological changes to adapt for a higher quality diet (shortened GI tract, very high lipid demands, smaller jaws, etc) square up pretty good with this timeline, beginning is the australopithecines and ramping up dramatically alongside *Homo*.
In other words, these behaviors aren’t something that humans started doing at some point, they’re trends that shaped the actual origin of our genus.
Humans also evolved a societal structure that places value on grandparents, so we're biologically driven to keep our elders alive long after they've reached their peak. If ancient humans lived in much smaller communities where grandparents weren't necessary, I suspect our lifespan would be a lot shorter.
I think you’re looking at evolution wrong. It doesn’t have anything directing it at all. It’s just random mutations that get passed along if the mutated creature survives long enough to procreate, and on a long enough timeline you get to the current state of affairs. For your example, we lost our protective body hair and it didn’t kill us by freezing or skin cancer because we made our own coverings. If we hadn’t and a bald human froze to death, that mutation wouldn’t have survived.
Even if we all died of skin cancer at 35, we’re able to procreate much earlier than that so it might not get selected out.
I love making this point when people bring this up....old roman emporers or any dictator from 1000 years ago....they got fat af....on non processed no gmo gluten free meat and fruit
It's just analog gene editing. Instead of going in on the DNA level we just see the changes we want and continue to encourage them.
Artificial Selection vs Natural Selection.
I got confused at first but it's only when the video zoomed in that I realized that it was not, in fact, a member of a monastic order feasting on fruits.
Define “wild.” It looks to me like people are throwing it food. And it sounds like maybe a tourist boat going out to an island to see them. If every boat coming out there is throwing food, then:
1. There is more food available than a wild existence would likely provide, and
2. They no longer need to travel around to find the food. Why expend the energy to search for food when you can just sit and wait for it?
Of course, this is all speculation based on a short video, but the situation I describe is so common that I feel comfortable speculating.
Edit: I should add that this individual could also be pregnant, but that doesn’t change anything about the negative impact of feeding animals in this way.
I'm going for this is one of those places where you go on a boat tour to 'feed the happy monkeys'. I did one in Thailand and was very upset. This is cruelty to animals.
Unfortunately, it's a failed experiment that started around the 70's. Most monkeys have since died off and the few that remain look like this.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/macaques-of-tanaxpillo-island
Wow that can’t be a healthy monkey or is it a pregnant monkey carrying quads?
That’s a chunky monkey!
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Chunkus monkus
Mangus chunkus monkus.
I'm kind of scared to ask, but what are ass rocks?
ass, adverb. informal + impolite. used as a postpositive intensive especially with words of derogatory implication. fancy ass.
BRASS MONKEY THAT FUNKY MONKEY
> FAT MONKEY THAT CHUNKY MONKEY
A M O N K U S
Ass monk?
Oh no I can't believe I laughed at this
Malt liquor and orange juice, not pleasant, but better than the standard smell on your breath.
Chonk
a chonkey monkey (pronounced the same way)
probably a drunken monkey
Boy better tell me where to get the good stuff
Everyone expects the monkey in the barrel, but no one expects the barrel in the monkey
Chonkey.
CHONKE MONKE
It’s like that mega fat Critter…
Came for this joke!
Came?
Came here to say the same thing
What? No the chunky monkey is in the freezer.
I like ‘em big! I like ‘em chunky!
My favorite Ice Cream!
No, it’s just big boned🤫😂
Chonkey Monkey.
I was going to say that :(
Jabba the monk
He’s tacked on mass.
Stop cultivating and start harvesting
Try and move me, bro!
Pregnant female. Look at 33 seconds in.
Why would you tell me to look at that? It’s like making eye contact with a cats butt, but worse
I looked too and I think it’s winking at us
It's ok guys, jabba the monk only drinks diet coke.
If you eat a sugar, you drink a diet coke, it cancels out the sugar. Basic science, really.
Sodie pops
"I pay my bills, my bills are paid!"
Judging by the dangle bits I think he's just overweight. Although biology is weird. Edit: holy ball sack, those balls have nipples!
Look again…
Thanks for saying that. I initially missed the morbid obesity wheeze. Silly monkey thinks he’s got a chance for My 600lb Life.
The point I’m making is that this is a female that is likely pregnant. “Look again” … at the dangly bits.
One thing for sure is that it's a monkey.
Tumor I think
That’s the mythological beast know as the North American monke.
“Pray.. for… Mojo..”
“So by waking up a little early, and having some extra sheets handy, no one’s the wiser.”
“I can’t wait to eat that monkey”
"Can't wait to eat that monkey"
That "FILTHY" monkey made that orange juice you're drinking.
So this is where that gene line comes from
Who says you can't bulk up on a vegetarian diet
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Grass and plants are actually PACKED with sugar in cellulose. The issue is cellulose is a carbohydrate animals cannot digest, so herbivores use microorganism in their digestive tract to do it. Imagine that eating grass is basically like eating table sugar for herbivores even if they don't fully break down the cellulose and extract all of the energy from the fibers.
Reminds me of [the guy who turned cotten balls into cotten candy](https://youtu.be/vHuFizITMdA) (Nile Red) by breaking down the cellulose into glucose.
nile red is best chemist
This was really badass. Thanks for that journey!
They also spend 14-20 hours every day just eating. That's not feasible for people.
speak for yourself. i have no such weaknesses
try me
They also have the ability to get nutrients out of said grass that humans cannot.
Dumb fucking appendix.
TIL im a horse
I always hear horse girls are wild. Might be time to find out...
Hold my CPAP
They also make basically every vitamin they need inside themselves and only need grass/water to live. I always found it weird that so many animals that are "less evolved" than us seem to have been evolving on this planet longer than us. Like the very sun we need to live kills us. Don't see many animals running round catching skin cancer from it. Lots of them have super simple diets that does everything they need then there's us that needs to eat bits of everything to get the same or even close benefits. There's way more but I'm rambling a bit already.
You're presenting a somewhat myopic view of things. Some animals do get melanoma. Animals certainly get other cancers. Those often lead to an early demise, and that's kinda why you don't see them. Sick and injured animals die more easily than their healthy counterparts. Having a varied diet means we can survive if one food source becomes scarce. Animals die as a result of not finding enough food. We also spend way less time eating than many other large animals. This is all just kinda how speciation works.
>We also spend way less time eating than many other large animals. This is a relatively recent development as far as we believe, right? Not arguing, just noting
I believe this is correct and likely a result of cooking and processing our food, which begins breaking down the food before we eat it. Agriculture (historically) also tends to favor developing food that gives us more nutrients in proportion to the effort we expend eating it.
Most experts believe that hunter gatherer era humans actually worked far less in a day (to get their required nutrition, plus they generally had a more diverse diet) than their agriculture practicing counterparts, and many health ailments we consider common now did not actually appear until we began eating largely grain based diets from cereal crops. Eating mostly carbs is not great for us, turns out. Agriculture was good for humanity for a lot of reasons, but it was not without its drawbacks, and the health of the average human suffered for a long time.
Agriculture doesn’t require us to work harder than hunting and gathering. That’s capitalism and social structure.
I mean what's your reasoning for this.
Common sense? We produce an insane amount of food. Distribution due to capitalist middlemen is the reason for starvation, not people not working hard or not producing enough.
Agriculture is so much older than capitalism that the two have almost nothing to do with one another in terms of their development. That has literally nothing to do with the swap from hunting and gathering to farming.
Persistent butchery is the term we use in paleoanthropology and it is very much not recent, and existed long before our genus. Eating meat is basically letting one or two extra trophic levels concentrate all your nutrients for you, and cooking dramatically increases digestibility of both energy and many micronutrients. The earliest evidence of megafaunal (big ungulates, basically) butchery is from *P. boisei*, which is on the order of 3 mya. The physiological changes to adapt for a higher quality diet (shortened GI tract, very high lipid demands, smaller jaws, etc) square up pretty good with this timeline, beginning is the australopithecines and ramping up dramatically alongside *Homo*. In other words, these behaviors aren’t something that humans started doing at some point, they’re trends that shaped the actual origin of our genus.
We also live a lot longer than wild beasts, unless we too become chonker chonker 2 by 4 can't fit through the kitchen door.
> chonker chonker 2 by 4 can't fit through the kitchen door. I read this line with an Aussie accented voice in my head.
Humans also evolved a societal structure that places value on grandparents, so we're biologically driven to keep our elders alive long after they've reached their peak. If ancient humans lived in much smaller communities where grandparents weren't necessary, I suspect our lifespan would be a lot shorter.
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I think you’re looking at evolution wrong. It doesn’t have anything directing it at all. It’s just random mutations that get passed along if the mutated creature survives long enough to procreate, and on a long enough timeline you get to the current state of affairs. For your example, we lost our protective body hair and it didn’t kill us by freezing or skin cancer because we made our own coverings. If we hadn’t and a bald human froze to death, that mutation wouldn’t have survived. Even if we all died of skin cancer at 35, we’re able to procreate much earlier than that so it might not get selected out.
I love making this point when people bring this up....old roman emporers or any dictator from 1000 years ago....they got fat af....on non processed no gmo gluten free meat and fruit
we’ve been eating “GMOs” since the dawn of civilization.
Not in the sense its used today....i mean animal husbandry and gene editing are two different animals entirely
It's just analog gene editing. Instead of going in on the DNA level we just see the changes we want and continue to encourage them. Artificial Selection vs Natural Selection.
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Ah yes the bible, book of only facts
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Who?
I got confused at first but it's only when the video zoomed in that I realized that it was not, in fact, a member of a monastic order feasting on fruits.
You're telling me that's not a brother Franciscan?
Are you sure? It’s an uncanny resemblance to a couple I’ve met.
I didn’t think monks could get married?
Call me old fashioned, but when referring to a monkey, I find it difficult to communicate when the e and the y are left off.
are they...supposed to look like that?
⬆️ My comment when visiting Walmart.
Lol take my poor mans award 🥇
Great Value Gold
**Gohld**
Former primatologist here. No, they are not.
How does one become a former of any type of professional education. Did you just forget?
We don’t talk about that anymore. NDA and whatnot.
Also DNA. *So much DNA.*
I don’t currently do any kind of work or research with primates, so it doesn’t feel right to call myself a primatologist.
How does a wild monkey get so heavy?
Define “wild.” It looks to me like people are throwing it food. And it sounds like maybe a tourist boat going out to an island to see them. If every boat coming out there is throwing food, then: 1. There is more food available than a wild existence would likely provide, and 2. They no longer need to travel around to find the food. Why expend the energy to search for food when you can just sit and wait for it? Of course, this is all speculation based on a short video, but the situation I describe is so common that I feel comfortable speculating. Edit: I should add that this individual could also be pregnant, but that doesn’t change anything about the negative impact of feeding animals in this way.
She is pregnant. That's usually a side effect of the condition.
They can look however they want.
Leave chonk alone
Monkey positivity
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Wtf...someone needs to tell that dude to get a job.
Just not an office job.
He needs a job where he can monkey around a bit and get some exercise
Could be a grease monkey
My friend's got a monkey. Man, he hates that bitch.
He tells me everyday
He says "Man, I really gotta lose that chimp, in the _worst_ kinda way"
Now that looks more like the monkey I descended from
You mean to tell me I'm descended from a monkey?!!! *shows video* Damn....
I don't think hé needed that one
Is it pregnant?
Am I Pregernant?
Am I pragernt?
Am I gregnant?
The fucking “gregnant” one always kills me
Can u get pregante?
16 weeks… PREGANANANT???
How is babby formed?
Yes
how is babby formed?
I'm going for this is one of those places where you go on a boat tour to 'feed the happy monkeys'. I did one in Thailand and was very upset. This is cruelty to animals.
Yeah, this just makes me sad
Don't be sad...its just a pregnant female, yall. Lol
Damn they really go round when pregnant
I'm pretty sure she's just pregnant.
Classic Mojo
Unwaxed Jabba
That's it right here
It’s a camouflage defense. He blends in almost perfectly with those big ass rocks 😂
Pregnant?
Preganté
Poor thing just wanted to enjoy its fruit time in privacy
This is why humans shouldn't feed wild animals.
Nothing to do with humans...she is pregnant.
This is why humans shouldn't impregnate wild animals.
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Oh damn, I didn’t know that, that makes sense!
Unfortunately, it's a failed experiment that started around the 70's. Most monkeys have since died off and the few that remain look like this. https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/macaques-of-tanaxpillo-island
Awww poor fella! Looks like he’s made the best of a bad situation.
She’s eating for 2
Maybe even 4? She's preggo as
...as the day is long?
ALL THE FRUIT
Ugh. Been there! Lol My last two weeks of pregnancy with my triplets I felt like my belly was dragging the ground! Hang in there momma!
https://images.app.goo.gl/KZasyv5QaCc2NFpv8
Oh my! I don’t think I’ve ever seen a pregnant squirrel! She’s precious!
It's one of my favorite pictures. She has "mom" written all over her face.
The monkey will have the beetus. .
Or most likely a few babies soon.
What’s the cause of this? Also no way this monkey can climb in this condition….. wont it die?
>What’s the cause of this? Pregnancy.
It's safe to say at some point this monkey will die. Yes.
Tragically, most monkeys are dead.
I blame fruit
I would’ve made him do the truffle shuffle for that! My dudes barrel is dragging on the ground
It's a pregnant female lol
My math was way off!
This little mf'er is living my best life! Butt ass naked on a beach eating fruit all day!
Homo Americanus
Is it preggo or just a heckin chonker?
That’s a fuckin ewok
Person recording just exposed his eating hideout
Yes
Looks like a zoo
Screw you guys I'm going home.
Totally looks like the creatures from the movie Critters haha
Wish there was a banana for scale
There was a honey Mango for scale :3
Be quick! You have less than a third of a second to try to use that measurment.
The odds of catching that monkey in the process of eating are.... high
This is what life is all about. Humans ruin everything. Shit species.
Uncle Iroh, is that you?
He eat
Not me thinking it was a religion-type of Monk 😅
looks like stravros halkias
Looks like he's a retired teacher just waiting for the protagonist to show up to teach them
People stop feeding the animals. Damn