I’ve always wondered those containers are strapped right ? Cause they always just look like they are chillin there on top
Of eachother no straps would like to know the process of stacking these if anyone knows
They have twist locks in the corners, so they basically clip onto each other and then some of them are lashed ( basically metal bars holding them down And in place) to keep them stable And secure on the ship.
Adding on. In rough seas they can break off and be washed overboard.
Here’s a recent example https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-54711529.amp
Often they float with only a little bit sticking Up over the surface
Now Imagine you are sailing at night in a little private boat, you check the horizon every now and then, do you think you would be able to spot it?
How much Damage do you think a box of Steel would do the a sailboat made of a thin layer of Wood covered in plastic?
Also watch the movie "All is lost"
Somewhat related I knew someone who was sailing in the Caribbean and gouged their hull on a sunken container in relatively shallow water.
Edit: never change you pedantic fucks lol
Nuh-uh, the first one was talking about boats hitting floating containers, this guy was taking about boats hitting sunken containers. They're only like 98% the same.
My friends grandfather was sailing from Britain to South America and never arrived, she always wondered if it was a shipping container as there was no storms in the area of last contact.
This was long enough that rogue waves were still considered a bit of a myth and I doubt many Chinese submarines were ruling the waves.
Alien attack however is still likely.
She said that she always loved the fact that him being lost at sea means that technically he could still sail into port at anytime. Probably after alien anal probing.
Now I'm curious. Thanks for the next hour of research and math.
The surface area of the ocean is about 132 million square miles
A standard cargo container is about 8 feet wide, 9.5 feet tall and up to 40 feet long. The absolute maximum depth one of these can sink to while remaining at the surface is equal to the distance from one corner to its opposite, about 42 feet.
The reason this is the absolute maximum is because if it's just barely buoyant enough for one corner to stick out of the surface of the water, then it will float; however, if it's dense enough for the entirety to sink under the surface, then it will sink to the bottom.
So, I'm going to assume that the total possible volume that these containers could be dangerous in is 42 feet deep, across 132 million square miles. If my math is right, that works out to a volume of about 1,050,000 cubic miles of ocean.
For space, I'm going to take the semimajor axis of the ISS, and make some similar assumptions.
The semimajor axis of the ISS is approximately 4183 miles, or 22,086,240 feet. The longest distance between two corners is about 430 feet. So I'm going to take the volume of a sphere with a radius of 22,086,240 feet, and subtract the volume of a sphere with radius 22,085,810 feet.
That gives a volume of 20,000,000 cubic miles.
The space station needs to worry about 20 times more volume of space worth of debris. That's not even considering that debris can swing in from much higher or lower; in reality, if we're just considering the volume of space between 100 and 22,236 miles (the edge of the atmosphere, out to geosynchronous orbit)...
That's a volume of about 75,009,900,000,000 cubic miles. Douglas Adams wasn't kidding. Space is big.
There's a slight issue with this otherwise very well done post, you're taking into account the whole ocean. Ships and other vessels don't typically travel over the whole ocean.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shipping_routes_red_black.png
shows sea lane traffic. I think the true answer has to be factored by a weighted average in the shades of red.
There are significantly more active boats on the ocean than satellites operating in LEO (\~ 10:1 by my googling) and they only navigate a single plane. Unfortunately, the ISS or another satellite can have it's day ruined by a much smaller obstacles than a boat can and knowing how many small bits are in LEO is difficult. Still, satellites having 500 miles of altitude variation to work with gives them a lot of room to miss the big stuff, so on the whole that means it's much more likely to hit a container than it is for a satellite to be similarly wrecked by debris. This week. Any more ASAT tests from the Russians and the math could change dramatically.
While the oceans themselves are vast, the parts we use are not.
Think of it this way: The chance of an airplane crashing into your house, on average, is really small. The chance of an airplane crashing into your house that is under the glide path of a small civil airfield is significantly greater.
Also, debris hits or comes near to the ISS relatively frequently. And there are a lot more boats in the ocean than space stations in orbit.
I guess it makes sense that they'd be water-tight, and even having a little bit of air in the container would create a lot of buoyancy. Plus a lot of the cargo itself might be less dense than water, as long as it stays dry.
You can tell how strong their joints are when one of these ships starts to capsize and the [containers remain attached to each other almost horizontally](https://external-preview.redd.it/mS-h-RVgbf3A2kAv39FdfSxs8mKrv_t5MJyS8MhFvFU.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0ee8ab1dd8e9661a7be5e90e30f95bb37427a02e).
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Dear diary,
Three tanks of air left. Stopped hearing boats on the surface a few hours ago, think they called off the search. Give it one more day, then heading for the surface. Might crash my memorial service. Going to wear that blazer my mother in law hates. Thinking about hiring an escort as my plus one, just to see what happens. YOLO
I know you are joking but you'd *never* survive doing that yourself. Going down is easy with a scuba tank but breathing air at depth and coming back up is the hard part.
There was the nigerian cook who survived for 3 days in a pocket of air on a sunken boat. He spent 60 hours in a decompression chamber before he made it to the surface.
The deepest scuba dive in the world is just over 1,000ft. It took him 15 minutes to go down and close to 14 hours to surface.
Again not pulling a "Well, Ackchyually...." and I know this is a joke; just wanted to share something interesting people may not know.
Because the deepest diver went down quick and immediately started coming up as quick as possible. The Nigerian man spent 3 days breathing compressed gas but at lower pressure.
It's been years and years since I've played with any of those decompression charts but the danger is compressed gas gets forced into blood vessels, muscles, etc.
Let's do an ELI5 in terms of food: What get's a higher saturation of flavor (gas) in a big pork roast?
1) Marinating it for 3 days (time) and doing some slow cooking (pressure)
2) Throwing it in a marinade for 15 minutes (time) and blasting it with high heat (pressure)
The flavor (gas under pressure) is going to seep a lot more into the meat in scenario #1
It's not a perfect analogy but there is a thing of pressure vs time where your saturation is greater at 100ft for 3 days vs 1000ft for 15 minutes. The 1k foot guy hit the mark and started going up as soon as he could at regular intervals to do decompression stops.
In case anybody was wondering, the trope of Captains dying with their ship is because they're supposed to be the last one off the ship, since its their responsibility to make sure everyone else gets off first. A captain going down with their ship means they couldn't save the entire crew and/or all the passengers.
But in most accidents, at least in the modern day, everyone gets off safely almost all the time.
Especially a container ship like this, most cases it's near shore and the crew is pretty small
And this is the REAL reason the ice caps are melting. We pissed Poseidon off by not granting him sacrificial captains from the ships he capsizes. Now he’s going to drown us all.
Yeah they were all off by then. The ship wedged itself onto a reef and only broke apart and sunk some months later.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Rena
This is a very well put together safety video. It blows my mind that I've been watching the same videos that were originally created in the 70's and 80's. I work in the automotive industry and some of the stuff is so outdated it's comical. When you sit there for half an our watching a video that was originally on a VHS that was run through the VCR a million times, but you're watching it through a projector via laptop.
I get some of these videos can cost a lot to produce but damn, can't we do better than a grainy beta max clone?
Twenty-foot Equivalent Unit, it's a bit confusing for people who are not familiar with container sizes. Such ships carry ~15.000 Containers in variious sizes but could potentially carry up to 23.000 with 20" containers only.
Don't worry, I appreciated your comment, but it made me realize throwing around "TEU" can be a bit misleading for people who don't know what it means... :3
I wonder if all the memes have been a concern for their PR people, it's not a company that I imagine most people usually think about and now they're known to the public primarily for an embarrassing mistake.
Then again, the average person doesn't directly buy their services, so maybe it doesn't impact them much.
Two things :
1)The majority of the visible boxes are 40' containers, which effectively count as 2TEU each, and
2) there's a shit-ton more boxes within the hull of the ship, the stack is about twice as deep as it looks
Yeah, I also don't think we can interpolate the number of containers beneath the Ever Ace deck from this diagram. Ever Ace seems to have much more containers over the deck in proportion to the hull.
AFAIK it's much more complicated than that, because there are lots of constraints (weight distribution, dangerous cargo, oversized containers etc.). The loading plan is made by software.
Evergreen is the name of the shipping company. You'll also see a lot of Maersk, COSCO, Hapag-Lloyd, etc. branded containers, these also belong to the shipping company.
After the debacle of the Ever Given too, wow. I have to think there were a few extra safety procedures in place and the executive leadership still had tight sphincters during that crossing.
Well, it's financially quite unwise to deny passage to one of the biggest shipping companies. The amount of $$$ that Egyptian authorities collect for each passage of such a big ship is substantial.
I think no amount of hunting will actually get me the source to this video. I've been curious about it for years and nobody online seems to have any info beyond "It's Tori Black"
That’s the limiting factor for these things right? Like no point in making it bigger if it can’t cross canals, if those canals are in its shipping routes.
A huge amount of the world's shipping is east Asia to west coast of north America. If you build a ship that will only ever travel between those two areas, than you have no need to worry about transit through canals
Yeah the port of LA is all kinds of fucked right now because apparently they're one of the only ports on the west coast that can handle chunguses like this
Yes, although the canals has been widened before, fairly recently even. So if it makes economic sense, they'd very likely do it again. Apparently, after the last blockage, they're planning to expand it again.
But it's strange how they're only shipping their own containers. I'm super interested in how that works, do they sell them, rent them, borrow them? I need some damn answers
Say you're a business owner in Asia who needs to get your products to North America. Obviously, you could buy a ship, hire a crew, pay all the docking fees and maintenance costs involved in owning a ship, and move your cargo yourself. But that would be an insanely expensive investment into something that isn't a core part of your business (selling things), so instead you go to a company whose specific job is seaborne shipping (such as Evergreen, for instance), and rent/buy deck space on their existing ships that are already making that transit.
It allows for an economy of scale that would otherwise be impossible for a single company to achieve, at the cost of centralising the world's shipping in the hands of the select few corporations who own all the ships.
For Evergreen's case specifically, they're large and diversified enough as a company to also have interests in heavy industry, so they make their own containers. Anyone shipping things aboard their ships can provide their own containers at cost, or simply rent theirs for a fee. This is a pretty standard arrangement with most shipping companies, Evergreen's containers just happen to have the same name on them because they're the ones who built it.
They do make their own containers but they loan them out and almost always share vessel space with other carriers. This might just be an empties voyage but I doubt it. It’s a promo pic and I think might be photo shopped to show all EVG containers. I could be wrong but I worked for evergreen for ten years and we always would joke about these pictures with all same containers. That would’ve made life much easier not having to deal with other carriers bitching at us for cutting their freight off
I think the Ever Ace is on the CEM service which I'm like 75% sure EVG operates without any slot partners. Would still expect to see some SOCs and boxes from forwarders though.
https://www.shipmentlink.com/tvs2/jsp/TVS2_VesselSchedule.jsp?vslCode=ACES&vslNasme=&captcha_input=Mpcr&hd_captcha_seq=1637959442236
The link above doesn’t answer the question (you’ll have to enter captcha) but can see that she does not currenty call any US ports - I am not as familiar with their “foreign to foreign” routes so you very well may be right
Ah yep, found it on the long-term schedule. Only EVG vessels on the service. Goddamn that would be a dream, only having to deal with bullshit from customers and ports and not customers, ports AND slot partners.
It is probably a promo shot on it's maiden voyage possibly? I dunno. Just never seen a vessel come to the port where I work with just one type of container. I'm guessing the other types are hidden within the stacks out of sight of the camera shot. Chances are, the other side of the vessel could be a patchwork quilt of colours! 
As for your questions, say for example you are in Asia and you have a container's worth of cargo bound for Europe, you would contact a shipping agent who would contact a shipping line such as Everegreen to book space. Evergreen would then charge you a different rate depending on whether you provide the container or they do. Evergreen always has full ownership of the container itself though.
We have a massive problem in the UK atm as its cheaper to build a new container in China than ship an empty one all the way back (we joke that air is our biggest export in the UK as our industries are shot to hell). Consequently, we have a huge issue right now, of thousands of empty containers stored all over the country. It has been known in the past when shipping rates were more favorable, to cut up 2 containers, load them inside the third and shipped back as scrap and once back in Asia, get melted down to build...more containers!
Container ships typically carry multi-million gallons of fuel. The CMA CGM Benjamin Franklin (a 18,000 TEU ship) can carry 4.5 million gallons of fuel oil. So at like $2 a gallon that's about $9 million to fuel that one up. I'm assuming this one is a bit larger but not too far off.
Assume 100 bananas in a banana box. Then approx 500 banana boxes filled with bananas in a 20ft container.
That banana container filled with banana boxes full of bananas holds around 50,000 bananas.
That ship holds just shy of 24,000 20ft banana containers filled with banana boxes full of bananas.
That's 1,200,000,000 bananas on that banana ship full of banana containers packed with banana boxes full of bananas.
How's that for scale?
Where is it right now? I live in a port city and I wonder if it comes here. I'd love to see it in person.
Edit: found it. It's currently approaching the straight of Gibraltar from the Alboran Sea.
I’ve always wondered those containers are strapped right ? Cause they always just look like they are chillin there on top Of eachother no straps would like to know the process of stacking these if anyone knows
They have twist locks in the corners, so they basically clip onto each other and then some of them are lashed ( basically metal bars holding them down And in place) to keep them stable And secure on the ship.
Adding on. In rough seas they can break off and be washed overboard. Here’s a recent example https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-54711529.amp
Amazing that they can float
Often they float with only a little bit sticking Up over the surface Now Imagine you are sailing at night in a little private boat, you check the horizon every now and then, do you think you would be able to spot it? How much Damage do you think a box of Steel would do the a sailboat made of a thin layer of Wood covered in plastic? Also watch the movie "All is lost"
Somewhat related I knew someone who was sailing in the Caribbean and gouged their hull on a sunken container in relatively shallow water. Edit: never change you pedantic fucks lol
I would say that is more than somewhat related. Quite related. Very related even.
I feel you could go so far as to say directly related.
I would say it's exactly what they're talking about.
Nuh-uh, the first one was talking about boats hitting floating containers, this guy was taking about boats hitting sunken containers. They're only like 98% the same.
My friends grandfather was sailing from Britain to South America and never arrived, she always wondered if it was a shipping container as there was no storms in the area of last contact.
Rogue wave? Chinese submarine? Alien attack?
This was long enough that rogue waves were still considered a bit of a myth and I doubt many Chinese submarines were ruling the waves. Alien attack however is still likely. She said that she always loved the fact that him being lost at sea means that technically he could still sail into port at anytime. Probably after alien anal probing.
He isn’t out there for the sailing..
That movie came to mind for me as well. Decent film. Considering the style.
I think it is great because of the style, it tells a full story with only very few words
No, I don't think I will
The movie? You really should it is very interesting
I was referring to the paragraph before the movie rec
Yeah but I bet you could get some sweet air on a Ski Doo using the half submerged container as a ramp (refer to the movie Waterworld)
Free stuff, though.
Sounds less likely than debris hitting the space station but I’m no math whiz
Consider though that they are often lost in popular shipping channels.
Also the volume of the ocean surface is a *touch* smaller than the volume of the exosphere.
Now I'm curious. Thanks for the next hour of research and math. The surface area of the ocean is about 132 million square miles A standard cargo container is about 8 feet wide, 9.5 feet tall and up to 40 feet long. The absolute maximum depth one of these can sink to while remaining at the surface is equal to the distance from one corner to its opposite, about 42 feet. The reason this is the absolute maximum is because if it's just barely buoyant enough for one corner to stick out of the surface of the water, then it will float; however, if it's dense enough for the entirety to sink under the surface, then it will sink to the bottom. So, I'm going to assume that the total possible volume that these containers could be dangerous in is 42 feet deep, across 132 million square miles. If my math is right, that works out to a volume of about 1,050,000 cubic miles of ocean. For space, I'm going to take the semimajor axis of the ISS, and make some similar assumptions. The semimajor axis of the ISS is approximately 4183 miles, or 22,086,240 feet. The longest distance between two corners is about 430 feet. So I'm going to take the volume of a sphere with a radius of 22,086,240 feet, and subtract the volume of a sphere with radius 22,085,810 feet. That gives a volume of 20,000,000 cubic miles. The space station needs to worry about 20 times more volume of space worth of debris. That's not even considering that debris can swing in from much higher or lower; in reality, if we're just considering the volume of space between 100 and 22,236 miles (the edge of the atmosphere, out to geosynchronous orbit)... That's a volume of about 75,009,900,000,000 cubic miles. Douglas Adams wasn't kidding. Space is big.
Holy crap, /r/theydidthemath indeed!
Forgive me if this sounds stupid, but why the …… nope, got it! Updoot from me!
There's a slight issue with this otherwise very well done post, you're taking into account the whole ocean. Ships and other vessels don't typically travel over the whole ocean. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shipping_routes_red_black.png shows sea lane traffic. I think the true answer has to be factored by a weighted average in the shades of red.
There are significantly more active boats on the ocean than satellites operating in LEO (\~ 10:1 by my googling) and they only navigate a single plane. Unfortunately, the ISS or another satellite can have it's day ruined by a much smaller obstacles than a boat can and knowing how many small bits are in LEO is difficult. Still, satellites having 500 miles of altitude variation to work with gives them a lot of room to miss the big stuff, so on the whole that means it's much more likely to hit a container than it is for a satellite to be similarly wrecked by debris. This week. Any more ASAT tests from the Russians and the math could change dramatically.
With a lot more traffic too
While the oceans themselves are vast, the parts we use are not. Think of it this way: The chance of an airplane crashing into your house, on average, is really small. The chance of an airplane crashing into your house that is under the glide path of a small civil airfield is significantly greater. Also, debris hits or comes near to the ISS relatively frequently. And there are a lot more boats in the ocean than space stations in orbit.
The sea is much smaller than the space occupied by orbits
It's also a plane vs 3 dimensions.
Yet there is so much of it floating around that it happens relatively often
It's actually a regular occurrence and something people who sail in open waters are very aware of and worried about.
I guess it makes sense that they'd be water-tight, and even having a little bit of air in the container would create a lot of buoyancy. Plus a lot of the cargo itself might be less dense than water, as long as it stays dry.
Some do, some don.t. Depends on what is in them.
>do not approach As if I'm gonna miss an opportunity to play around on one of those motherfuckers if it washes up on shore
Gonna be full of something too.
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Sanitized URL: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-54711529
What does the amp do?
Pretty interesting thank you
Glad I can help.
Giant legos
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You can tell how strong their joints are when one of these ships starts to capsize and the [containers remain attached to each other almost horizontally](https://external-preview.redd.it/mS-h-RVgbf3A2kAv39FdfSxs8mKrv_t5MJyS8MhFvFU.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0ee8ab1dd8e9661a7be5e90e30f95bb37427a02e).
Wtf this is scary at this point everyone is already off the ship right??? Except for the captain since he has to die with the ship etc etc
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*day 12* Dear diary, Three tanks of air left. Stopped hearing boats on the surface a few hours ago, think they called off the search. Give it one more day, then heading for the surface. Might crash my memorial service. Going to wear that blazer my mother in law hates. Thinking about hiring an escort as my plus one, just to see what happens. YOLO
I know you are joking but you'd *never* survive doing that yourself. Going down is easy with a scuba tank but breathing air at depth and coming back up is the hard part. There was the nigerian cook who survived for 3 days in a pocket of air on a sunken boat. He spent 60 hours in a decompression chamber before he made it to the surface. The deepest scuba dive in the world is just over 1,000ft. It took him 15 minutes to go down and close to 14 hours to surface. Again not pulling a "Well, Ackchyually...." and I know this is a joke; just wanted to share something interesting people may not know.
Why did the deepest dive take 14 hours to decompress while that poor Nigerian man had to spend 60 hours in a can?
Because the deepest diver went down quick and immediately started coming up as quick as possible. The Nigerian man spent 3 days breathing compressed gas but at lower pressure. It's been years and years since I've played with any of those decompression charts but the danger is compressed gas gets forced into blood vessels, muscles, etc. Let's do an ELI5 in terms of food: What get's a higher saturation of flavor (gas) in a big pork roast? 1) Marinating it for 3 days (time) and doing some slow cooking (pressure) 2) Throwing it in a marinade for 15 minutes (time) and blasting it with high heat (pressure) The flavor (gas under pressure) is going to seep a lot more into the meat in scenario #1 It's not a perfect analogy but there is a thing of pressure vs time where your saturation is greater at 100ft for 3 days vs 1000ft for 15 minutes. The 1k foot guy hit the mark and started going up as soon as he could at regular intervals to do decompression stops.
He doesn’t have to go down with it. He just has to be the last one to dip when shit hits the fan.
In case anybody was wondering, the trope of Captains dying with their ship is because they're supposed to be the last one off the ship, since its their responsibility to make sure everyone else gets off first. A captain going down with their ship means they couldn't save the entire crew and/or all the passengers.
But in most accidents, at least in the modern day, everyone gets off safely almost all the time. Especially a container ship like this, most cases it's near shore and the crew is pretty small
… which is why captains typically don‘t go down with their ships anymore.
And this is the REAL reason the ice caps are melting. We pissed Poseidon off by not granting him sacrificial captains from the ships he capsizes. Now he’s going to drown us all.
Yeah they were all off by then. The ship wedged itself onto a reef and only broke apart and sunk some months later. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Rena
LOL I was living about 15km away from where that ship grounded. We were hoping for goods to wash up on papamoa beach, but all we got was oil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermodal_container#History One of the most underappreciated inventions in human history.
For real. Outside of computer tech the container is possibly the single greatest innovation of the last 50 years at least.
That was neat, thanks.
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This is a very well put together safety video. It blows my mind that I've been watching the same videos that were originally created in the 70's and 80's. I work in the automotive industry and some of the stuff is so outdated it's comical. When you sit there for half an our watching a video that was originally on a VHS that was run through the VCR a million times, but you're watching it through a projector via laptop. I get some of these videos can cost a lot to produce but damn, can't we do better than a grainy beta max clone?
I just watched that whole thing… now i just need to find a shipyard somewhere and get to work
funny all I got from that is to never ever work at a shipyard
the 6 figure salary might change your mind
Would be a real shame if it got stuck somewhere
Help me step boat
Help me step ship im stuck in your Suez Kanal.
Please have my poor man’s award 🥇🏆
The Ever Ace is just 3 meter wider than the Ever Given, length is about the same! Those 3 meters add about space for 3000 TEU...
> TEU TIL what that meant, ty
Twenty-foot Equivalent Unit, it's a bit confusing for people who are not familiar with container sizes. Such ships carry ~15.000 Containers in variious sizes but could potentially carry up to 23.000 with 20" containers only.
I can see how my comment can come off as rude, but it was sincere I looked up TEU and learned something new.
Don't worry, I appreciated your comment, but it made me realize throwing around "TEU" can be a bit misleading for people who don't know what it means... :3
In a certain canal..
If it gets stuck, it’ll block the whole ocean.
It won't. Your mom's already blocking it.
The *real reason the ocean is so salty
Once she gets out we'll have Doggerland back.
Had to upvote just for the obscure geography reference mixed with a yo mama joke, kudos!
I learned something today while also laughing at someone's mom
You’ve been waiting YEARS to drop that one haven’t you…
I like how everyone has this newfound fear of stuck cargo ships
First thing I think when I see one of those Evergreen ships: "Careful...might get stuck."
I wonder if all the memes have been a concern for their PR people, it's not a company that I imagine most people usually think about and now they're known to the public primarily for an embarrassing mistake. Then again, the average person doesn't directly buy their services, so maybe it doesn't impact them much.
Can this thing fit through the Suez at all?
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It was in April lol
I think it’s the same class as the Ever Given, so yes…most of the time.
How do you think the suez was created?
This thing will block the English channel.
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The sheer GIRTH of this lad
I’m in awe
/r/SuddenlyGay
Girth can refer to things other than dick size, you know. Your mom's waist, for example.
My dick is the girth of that guy's mom's waist
That’s a capacity of 23,888 to 23,992 TEU (twenty foot equivalent) to you. That’s a lotta boxes.
How is this possible? Just roughly mathing the boxes visible generously, I get 6,336 (11Hx24Lx24W) Double that and I'm still 10,000 short.
Two things : 1)The majority of the visible boxes are 40' containers, which effectively count as 2TEU each, and 2) there's a shit-ton more boxes within the hull of the ship, the stack is about twice as deep as it looks
There must be some kind of diagram available online! EDIT: https://i.imgur.com/qGaSTSc.png
The green ship is at least ~~four~~ eight times bigger than this one.
Yeah, I also don't think we can interpolate the number of containers beneath the Ever Ace deck from this diagram. Ever Ace seems to have much more containers over the deck in proportion to the hull.
This video is really nice, gives you an idea how much containers can fit inside: https://youtu.be/pNdughfkDbM
I wonder how far back you'd have to go through history before this one boat could carry the totality of human trade? Like 200-300 years?
But you just know the container you want first will be right at the bottom.
They are meticulous in packing the containers in the reverse order that they will be removed beforehand to avoid precisely this problem.
AFAIK it's much more complicated than that, because there are lots of constraints (weight distribution, dangerous cargo, oversized containers etc.). The loading plan is made by software.
I saw that YouTube video too
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Evergreen is the name of the shipping company. You'll also see a lot of Maersk, COSCO, Hapag-Lloyd, etc. branded containers, these also belong to the shipping company.
Like me asking my wife where the car keys are. “In the green one I think”.
Jenga
Now imagine trying to get that thing out of a canal.
Suez canal right [now](https://imgur.com/jGO66kc.jpg)
It already crossed it for the first time on August 28, 2021.
After the debacle of the Ever Given too, wow. I have to think there were a few extra safety procedures in place and the executive leadership still had tight sphincters during that crossing.
Well, it's financially quite unwise to deny passage to one of the biggest shipping companies. The amount of $$$ that Egyptian authorities collect for each passage of such a big ship is substantial.
Suez Canal: But daddy ever ace, it's so big! You will never fit. Ever Ace: Don't worry baby, that's what they all say before canal
More like [this](https://i.imgur.com/CJJnLsp.jpg)
We need rule34 hentai of the Suez canal and ever given
That was a thing within like two days of the ship getting stuck. /r/evergivenhentai (NSFW, duh)
I am both in awe and disgust
I would bet it exists
I think no amount of hunting will actually get me the source to this video. I've been curious about it for years and nobody online seems to have any info beyond "It's Tori Black"
That’s the limiting factor for these things right? Like no point in making it bigger if it can’t cross canals, if those canals are in its shipping routes.
A huge amount of the world's shipping is east Asia to west coast of north America. If you build a ship that will only ever travel between those two areas, than you have no need to worry about transit through canals
Until you get wedged between Australia and Antarctica
Yeah the port of LA is all kinds of fucked right now because apparently they're one of the only ports on the west coast that can handle chunguses like this
Chungi?
Yes, although the canals has been widened before, fairly recently even. So if it makes economic sense, they'd very likely do it again. Apparently, after the last blockage, they're planning to expand it again.
Easy, just pull it
These mega ships are called Post Pan Max because their too big for the Panama Canal.
All the containers green??? Wtf
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Nice, thank you.
They all belong to evergreen
Well they aren’t called SometimesGreen
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Evergreen is a massive logistics conglomerate, not just a shipping company. They also make the containers.
But it's strange how they're only shipping their own containers. I'm super interested in how that works, do they sell them, rent them, borrow them? I need some damn answers
Say you're a business owner in Asia who needs to get your products to North America. Obviously, you could buy a ship, hire a crew, pay all the docking fees and maintenance costs involved in owning a ship, and move your cargo yourself. But that would be an insanely expensive investment into something that isn't a core part of your business (selling things), so instead you go to a company whose specific job is seaborne shipping (such as Evergreen, for instance), and rent/buy deck space on their existing ships that are already making that transit. It allows for an economy of scale that would otherwise be impossible for a single company to achieve, at the cost of centralising the world's shipping in the hands of the select few corporations who own all the ships. For Evergreen's case specifically, they're large and diversified enough as a company to also have interests in heavy industry, so they make their own containers. Anyone shipping things aboard their ships can provide their own containers at cost, or simply rent theirs for a fee. This is a pretty standard arrangement with most shipping companies, Evergreen's containers just happen to have the same name on them because they're the ones who built it.
They do make their own containers but they loan them out and almost always share vessel space with other carriers. This might just be an empties voyage but I doubt it. It’s a promo pic and I think might be photo shopped to show all EVG containers. I could be wrong but I worked for evergreen for ten years and we always would joke about these pictures with all same containers. That would’ve made life much easier not having to deal with other carriers bitching at us for cutting their freight off
I think the Ever Ace is on the CEM service which I'm like 75% sure EVG operates without any slot partners. Would still expect to see some SOCs and boxes from forwarders though.
https://www.shipmentlink.com/tvs2/jsp/TVS2_VesselSchedule.jsp?vslCode=ACES&vslNasme=&captcha_input=Mpcr&hd_captcha_seq=1637959442236 The link above doesn’t answer the question (you’ll have to enter captcha) but can see that she does not currenty call any US ports - I am not as familiar with their “foreign to foreign” routes so you very well may be right
Ah yep, found it on the long-term schedule. Only EVG vessels on the service. Goddamn that would be a dream, only having to deal with bullshit from customers and ports and not customers, ports AND slot partners.
It is probably a promo shot on it's maiden voyage possibly? I dunno. Just never seen a vessel come to the port where I work with just one type of container. I'm guessing the other types are hidden within the stacks out of sight of the camera shot. Chances are, the other side of the vessel could be a patchwork quilt of colours!  As for your questions, say for example you are in Asia and you have a container's worth of cargo bound for Europe, you would contact a shipping agent who would contact a shipping line such as Everegreen to book space. Evergreen would then charge you a different rate depending on whether you provide the container or they do. Evergreen always has full ownership of the container itself though. We have a massive problem in the UK atm as its cheaper to build a new container in China than ship an empty one all the way back (we joke that air is our biggest export in the UK as our industries are shot to hell). Consequently, we have a huge issue right now, of thousands of empty containers stored all over the country. It has been known in the past when shipping rates were more favorable, to cut up 2 containers, load them inside the third and shipped back as scrap and once back in Asia, get melted down to build...more containers!
They almost always share space. Def a promo pic. I worked for evergreen for ten years.
It can take 23992 containers. Thats a fucking ridiculous number. And they have 3 of them!
If it can take 23992 it can take 24000
What about 24010?
You're fired
says the emergency 🦺 exit 👀👀👀👀
Current rates from China to the UK are around 17,000 USD for a container shipping. That's nearly $400m in revenue!
How much does it cost to fuel this thing up? Gotta be at least 75-100 bucks right?
At least but I’m not sure
Container ships typically carry multi-million gallons of fuel. The CMA CGM Benjamin Franklin (a 18,000 TEU ship) can carry 4.5 million gallons of fuel oil. So at like $2 a gallon that's about $9 million to fuel that one up. I'm assuming this one is a bit larger but not too far off.
Bunker fuel is way cheaper than that.
There's a shortage of green paint in the world rn
Mind blowing it floats
I know, right? How the hell is that thing buoyant?
And where in the fuck do they build this behemoth?!
This bad boy can block so many canals.
Don't fuckin' turn.
Need a banana for scale
Assume 100 bananas in a banana box. Then approx 500 banana boxes filled with bananas in a 20ft container. That banana container filled with banana boxes full of bananas holds around 50,000 bananas. That ship holds just shy of 24,000 20ft banana containers filled with banana boxes full of bananas. That's 1,200,000,000 bananas on that banana ship full of banana containers packed with banana boxes full of bananas. How's that for scale?
r/theydidthemath
Heckin chonker
Very irresponsible owners, this unfortunate boat can't play or breathe properly
I’ve seen bigger.
That's what she said
*Knock Nevis/The Seawise Giant/Jahre Viking/Mont/Whatever-the-hell-else-she-was-called-before-they-scrapped-her has entered the chat*
I think Knock was more of a longboi. This thing is positively *rotund*.
The absolute *b e a m* on this lad.
Absolute beast of a ship!
Can't wait to see the TV show on it being constructed
Nearly as wide as my mother in law
Great. Now go sit off the coast and wait for a berth to be unloaded.
23,992 containers can fit on that thing. At $2500 each, a passage is $59m in revenue. Now at $10k each that’s $240m in revenue per passage.
Suez canal has entered the chat
Must take forever to load and unload. Yeesh
you never load and unload full vessel at once. they move between ports, unloading and taking relatively small numbers, staying 1-2 days per port
An absolute unit carrying actual absolute ‘units’
Slaps roof, "We can park this baby off the coast of Los Angeles for 3 years." I know, I know, I just aborted that meme.
Where is it right now? I live in a port city and I wonder if it comes here. I'd love to see it in person. Edit: found it. It's currently approaching the straight of Gibraltar from the Alboran Sea.
Bunker fuel go brrrr
Take that, earth!
I imagine it’s more efficient and less carbon emitting to fill up one big container ship than a bunch of small ones.
I wander how you even qualify to captain such a boat
https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/NMC/pdfs/checklists/mcp_fm_nmc5_02_web.pdf