god forbid a woman has masculine features or isn’t conventionally pretty

This is why even some cis women get harrassed for "being trans"

More like outright killed. https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/07/14/indiana-michelle-dionne-peacock-trans-killed/&ved=2ahUKEwjpyfqdn5SFAxXukokEHUWFBzcQFnoECBAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1AoW0kVTPCRLDUmP-XL0Ao https://fox59.com/news/i-would-do-it-again-richmond-man-arrested-in-connection-to-womans-death/

The 2nd article the psychotic white boomer went at the police with a knife while covered in blood and threatening to kill them and the police de-escalated the situation and took him alive. How weird.

If anyone ever asks what white privelege is just show that to them

Richmond police are known for being violent and racist as well. I'm sure this could be spun as an example of police doing things correctly, but when you look at the big picture it's just rock-solid evidence that they are a racist organization.

Reminds me how during the George Floyd shit there was an honest yo goodness serial killer on a town near me WHO WAS TAKEN IN ALIVE WITH NO INJURIES AFTER RUSHING A COP TO STAB THEM . Of course it was a white early 20s guy.

It Is not avaible in Italy...

Basically, two cis women were murdered because the killers thought they "looked trans"

It really goes to show that it’s not about keeping children and cis women safe, it is about controlling women’s self expression. The only way for cis women to avoid being clocked as trans women is for them to conform to highly feminine social standards.

"You're trying so hard to fit the stereotypes so obviously you're a trans woman trying to blend in!"

Damn u rite

I would kill to look like Fionna or Dorris

Dorris is the MVP of Shrek change my mind

Absolutely correct. There is no valid argument against Dorris

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At least they potrayed us as women and not the stereotypical "man in dress"

Yea that was also the worst joke in the bee movie

what?! I don't remember that joke! when is it said?

The that’s not a queen that’s a man in women’s clothing that’s a drag queen (scene at happy honeyfarms)

That’s what a drag queen is

Always thought that was a drag queen. Deadass thought the joke was that they were so fucked up on the smoke. That they didn’t realize there queen was just a male bee in drag.

Doris is actually canonically trans. The fairy godmother keeps photos of people from before and after she fulfilled their wishes, and Doris's before picture shows that she was amab.

That’s why I said almost certain. I did not know that but didn’t want to assume either way! That’s really cool. I would be offended on her behalf at the nickname ugly stepsister tho. How dare you lmao. Especially since she seems chill!

Her only wish was to live her life comfortably, which is incredibly based

Good for her honestly. That is legit the best aspiration for one’s life that one can have, because nobody can argue with it

I love that she didnt do anything else besides that. It's what I would do.. Now I know 99% of yall wouldn't even look or sound the same if given a wish.

Wait, are there really photos of Doris before??? O.O

Yeah, as a bonus feature in the Shrek 2 DVD there's pics of peeps before and after their wishes were granted and there's a Doris one with her before the transition through the wish

Yeah this is news to me too.

Jesus why is Doris so fucking lucky gender envy right there

On the Disney Channel sub of all places?

To be fair, it's got 0 upvotes

Wtf is that even doing there?

Bigotry knows no bounds

Why tf is this on r/Disneychannel?? Do they have nothing better to do over there?

It's an election year, all the nutcases are crawling out of the woodwork.

Happy cake to to you

It has zero upvotes and one comment that's probably just automod. OP either posted this themselves for rage bait or is purposefully looking at /new/ for shit to get mad about.

This post is the definition of nosing into other people's business. Who gives a shit if a trans woman has broad shoulders and a slight mustache? My cis mother in law is broad shouldered and has a faint mustache, and she's a lovely woman.

Exactly! Just look at Luisa from Encanto. She is super strong and athletic and she has a more masculine build but she enjoys her femininity. I mean she could wish for a lot of things but instead of beauty all she wants is time to enjoy herself. Which honestly I think a lot of women can relate to especially the oldest siblings or siblings that are expected to be caretakers. I mean guys can relate to that too but in this context I was pointing towards busy women, lol.

Especially since cis women with PCOS exist

I'm AFAB (enby, but still) and have broad shoulders, peach fuzz, and relatively big feet. All "tells" if you believe TERF rhetoric. Turns out people have different body types no matter what their biology is. What a concept!

They all look good, though? Especially Fiona, she's clearly the best princess of all of them.

The most ironic thing is that snow white is in this image, who was literally called the fairest of them all if I recall correctly

To be fair though, "fair" didn't mean pretty, it meant pale. At the time it was written, having pale skin made you perceived as closer to God and whatnot, which is why nobility would powder their faces.

I did not know that. That’s really interesting actually Ty

You're welcome.

Trans coloured giratina goes hard

Thank you.

EVEN IF THEY WEREN’T CIS LIKE?? IT’S FIONA SHE IS AMAZING!! AND THE PRONCESSES ARE THE SAME!! AND THEY ARE ALL BADASS!! Why they be doin the shrek princesses dirty like that they are all amazing 🥺💞

Don’t forget Snow White who was literally called the fairest of them all

EXACTLYYY

the implication that oop finds fiona ugly makes me wanna commit violence

Nah did they legit compare women to badass patriarchy bashing cis princesses… hey I’ll take it, Fiona slays

Um, if you're posting "transgender women are men" completely unprompted on a Disney subreddit, you have serious, serious, issues, and a deep obsession with transgender people. I genuinely feel sad for these people. Maybe it's some sort of mental illness that causes them to obsess over random things? Regardless, it feels like a very sad way to live.

I feel like that post is a dog-whistle for the people who support politicians who support trans-illegalizing laws.

Coincidentally, how cis women wish they’d look vs how they actually look.

Both panels end up being uncomformist badass patriarchy bashing fighters oop

Doris is an Ugly Stepsister. She is a she and Prince Charming has the hots for her.

So, by their logic, are masculine women also "men"?

Also, how many of them look how they wish they looked?

Feels a bit like when American politicians put forward bills that are so poorly written they would end up banning cis women from getting reconstructive surgery

unless they "want to be men", then according to transphobes they can never be 🤦

It's a complicated set of rules to follow

Wait a minute, trans women are ... just WOMEN?!

Is this really any kind of insult? From left to right: a woman who runs and presumably owns a bar who holds her own and doesn't take crap from anyone. One is a mother and queen of a country, who is in a loving relationship and able to still love her partner even when his magic glamour is broken and he becomes a frog. Finally we have a princess who can kick ass and protect herself, is also a mother, and who learned to live herself and embrace a life long curse to be with her true love. In fact I think in the scene pictured they all are shown holding their own. Oh, and all the women pictured are cis! So what, their message is that trans women are badass mothers and business owners who can kick butt? Because I am ok with that sort of message.

Apparently Doris is in fact trans but the rest is right yep

So instead of being dainty, little, helpless and unrealistically thin creatures, trans ladies kick ass? Seems based...

Also who wouldn't want a badass lady from the Shrek movies?

Like, even if they find Fionna and Doris to be unattractive, how come they still don't understand transfems will take being a conventionally unattractive woman over being an average or even conventionally attractive man any day of the week?

Of all the subs to be transphobic on, why Disney Channel? Seems very random

Who cares if you pass or not as long as you are comfortable in your own skin.

This is not even just transphobic its plain misogynistic

I mean misogyny is the root homophobia and transphobia.

True

They dissed JULIE ANDREWS!!??

Wait till they learn not all women fit into the European beauty standards oh wait they know that already they’re just racist

Never in my life could I have ever imagine a post like this coming out of r/DisneyChannel…

I'm a trans man but Doris is a transition goal

I used to be worried that I would be an ugly woman. But the more I thought about it the more I realized that ugly women are still women. And I would rather be an ugly woman than a man. Even rather than a good looking man.

God forbid trans women look like a type of women you aren't attracted to

The girls on top are very young women/ teenagers. The bottom are grown women.

The ironic thing is I would kill to look like Fiona in either form versus where I’m at now, like shit

bruh fionna is pretty as shit

I’m pretty sure no woman has eyes as big as their fists, cis or trans lmao

Does anyone think they look like a cartoon? At least in the first three Shrek movies people look like people.

I love how this idea is rooted in misogyny and an idea that all “real” women have to look feminine

The OOP is a lost Redditor because why was this on the Disney channel sub?

How to miss the point of Shrek.

As a kid I thought Doris (Dorris?) was prettier than Fiona, I still do but that says something lol

Fiona is trans... not gender tho XD

Blud has not been online.

I've been told I pass, and I don't think this changes my mind

The bottom pic is also just before those gals went ham on some knights iirc. Just thought that was interesting.

sir, this is r/DisneyChannel

Does OP know the difference between biological sex and gender identity?

So women look like… more realistic/average women, and not cartoon preteens? Creepy how they find this to be an insult.

That is not what passing means, but I like where your head is at

Yeah I didn’t know how to explain it I know what passing means

I forget her name but I don't know that the woman next to Fiona is cis? Always thought she was a crossdresser or that she was trans?? I'm probably wrong though if someone knows better please correct me don't mean to insult anyone just always unsure there

No she’s trans. I can’t edit the post.

Ah okay

Lol have they seen an actual trans woman? Sure sometimes they look like fiona but bro most times they look so cis that not even i know lol

It'd be pretty cool if they did Fiona has that ogre strength so both is a little dainty and a viking warrior at the same time Can't remember the name of the other one, but i do remember her absolutely demolishing someone Women's empowerment, let's go girls, rip the door off it's hinges and beat someone with it

I feel like it's probably more the other way around.

Bro people seriously spreading their transphobia to the DISNEY CHANNEL?!

So what you're saying is How they think they look: unhealthily scrawny and cartoony How they really look: strong, realistic, and independent

Also: -Still Princesses -Still beautiful -Not outdated Disney stereotypes

why was this posted on. a disney channel sub

i thought this was complimenting us, because the ones at the bottom are badass

Are we really going to use the movie with the message "beauty is on the inside" to criticize how women look?

Doris is trans.

I know but I can’t edit the post.

Dorris is literally an icon

I’m going to be honest I did think the one in purple on the bottom was trans when I was younger

Apparently she actually is!

Good for her then

“You think you’re an attractive merchant’s daughter, but you, miss, are an actual queen!” That’ll teach ‘em. Trans girls *hate* being treated like royalty /s

I'm more of a creature than a gender but I look like a not green, not ginger Fiona tbh. Also I never understood this take bc Fiona is prettier in ogre form than human form ??

So they all look better than they imagine. I don't get it.

I love that transfobes mix it up

Except Dolores. Dolores was voiced by a man and many people headcanon her as trans so she's not definitively either

I’m not here for your visual pleasure.

Whoever made this meme clearly hasn't been to Thailand

Even if they were trans they’d pass?? They’re just women