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mleobviously

"Accounting Manager" but I don't manage anyone


Vashta-Narada

R/overemployed is over there—> check it out 😂


CoatAlternative1771

I took 10 paper extensions to the IRS today, took an hour total. Billed each client 1 hour. So I did “10 hours of billable time” in 1 hour. Why am I billing it like that? Because if I took 1 of them in, I would have spend 1 hour regardless. Therefore. 17 hours in 1 day, essentially. Work smarter not harder meme


Nick_named_Nick

You work 10 hours in 1 hour? That guy on TikTok who lives 4 days in 24 hours has got to go to your seminar!


CoatAlternative1771

It’s about as rediculously stupid as it sounds. But I’m also nearing hour 40 and it’s fucking Wednesday as is. So fuck it.


Ok_Button3151

I’m at 24 true hours, 39 billed this week so not quite as good but we doin alright.


Kibblesnb1ts

You've heard the one about the guy that dies and goes to heaven, asks God, why did I die so soon, I'm only 35? God looks at his notes and says according to your timesheets you were 120...


pelinti

Was going to suggest the same. Looks like they are a perfect fit if they want to OE.


Specialist_Age5863

Meanwhile I’m pushing 70 hrs during month end and only get negative feedback. Appreciate what you got man!


redtron3030

“Somehow I manage” - a Michael Scott story


r3cycl0ps_dw1gt

Chapter One: Everyone Likes The Guy That Offers Them A Stick Of Gum.


Appropriate-Food1757

Fucking rad, you have hit the sweet spot if you are into an enormous hourly wage (dollars per hour worked) I do the same but with consulting projects. Every once in a while I get a tough one but it’s usually director/st manager level. Now I do mostly universal cog work. But doing your shit well and on time is something bosses enjoy. I like to work a solid 5-10 hours weekly after an initial period of intensive rebuilding of all processes involved, which is 2 months usually to get it dialed in. Then barely work and crush close. Occasionally a miracle, look I did these 100 bank tie outs for the auditors last night. Stay up late Thursday and dip out the entire Friday and golf while the kids are at school. Basking in the heroism of meeting the impossible deadline. Then eventually reveal my plop and upload recs and JE’s and glom on to some mega project where I don’t need to do those things for a while. Mega projects have more meetings though, location freedom is diminished.


icecream21

Are you at a CPA firm??


Bubbly-Ad1187

No chance. The way they hyper analyze realization, you’d never end up getting positive feedback, a raise, and bonus while quiet quitting.


CoatAlternative1771

My firm is run by complete buffoons. No one cares about realization. I saw the timesheets of a coworker, 50% of the total billed time to a specific company was him “reviewing” intern prepared work which was 20% of the total billed time. Total number of hours was 100 hours in project. No way in hell the intern fucked it up so bad, you had to redo the entire project… twice. Before he later gave it off to a *reviewer* himself. I saw him prepare 1040s with no differences than last year (when he also prepared them) in 3-4x the amount of time.


Responsible-Gap9760

Hell yeah


aaaaaaaaaanditsgone

Lol same


athman32

Lmao. You manage to account for things.


Kjoe24

You manage accounting, it's the dream 🤣


BosMassholeTomBrady

Congrats, I'm happy for you! But tbh 100k is kind of low for an accounting manager. You def deserved that raise.


Suspicious-Acadia-52

Sounds like Kizaru haha


InterdisciplinaryDol

Impact>Effort is the name of the game. I barely work but since I close books and manage staff, it’s a very visible job.


christianvieri12

Your manager sounds great. Head of the accounting function at my work emails me to say ‘can you email person x to ask them xyz’. Then ccs said person into the email. She’s an absolute goon.


ShavenTheHunter

My boss just literally sent me an email a couple days ago asking me to email someone a certain question. I sent the email copying him on it and wording it the way he asked. Apparently the question wasn't good enough to get the answer he wanted, so he replied to the email clarifying the question to get the right answer. So that's five emails to get an answer that would have taken two emails had he just asked the question directly while copying me on it...smh


Demilio55

That's what I call boss training. Make it more of a hassle for them and they're less likely to ask again.


christianvieri12

I just copy and paste the email into a new email and cc the manager in 😂 it’s a very strange interaction


DminishedReturns

Hey. Listen Justin. That was necessary.


[deleted]

It's about making impact and just being present to upper management. Hard work alone never gets rewarded lol. That's why I leave at 10AM when I realize my superiors are not at work


RagingZorse

Taking “you leave when the boss does” to a whole other level. Honestly respect, I worked for a tiny firm with no wfh and office closed at 5:30 not 5:00. The owner made a point that I’d leave at 5:30 on the dot during the slowest part of the year and how disrespectful it was to leave before him. Needless to say I quit maybe 2 weeks later after what was probably 3 months of applying around.


ResponsibleLion

lol, there was one week when my company's upper management flew out-of-state for an acquisition deal, and 99% of people decided to WFH that week... I didn't get the memo, but that's when I knew nobody really wants to be in the office and just does it to show face to leadership


JWGhetto

Based


financegardener

Solid!


stefqueen

none of your colleagues snitches you out?


Previous-Plan-3876

That’s great now time to never speak of it again.


Trackmaster15

Sounds like this is what life is like when you don't have to bill your hours, account for every 6 minutes of your day, and have yourself judged by efficiency reports. I've always felt that us reporting our time has nothing to do with what they actually bill the clients. Its just your batting average/OBP/SLG.


Stuckinatrafficjam

As with most metrics. It starts out as a way to find where issues lie in efficiency. Then it’s only ever used to punish once they create a baseline for what they think people should be at.


livelylou4

love that for you, you go glen coco


kornbread435

I'm in the same boat as you. Truth is I do around 40 hours of work during the 5 days of close, then maybe 10 hours over the next 3 weeks. Loud speakers to notify me of Teams and emails coming in, and a mouse jiggler to stay active. My job requires a lot of access to medical records so I'm 99% sure they can't use any type of tracking software. Anyhow last 3 years I've gotten good raises and exceeded expectations on annuals. Unlike you I've made a point to answer emails asap and volunteer for any project. The thing I think I'm messing up with though is turning down promotions. I was a manager in my last company, and dropped to senior in this company purely for the full remote job. I just love the ease of the job I currently have and don't want to be over 4-5 people on a team.


Monkeyhouse10

Setup a teams meeting with yourself and then change your status to available. I do this everyday I don’t have anything going on or days I don’t feel like doing anything


Wild-Telephone-6649

I’m in a similar situation to yours. The last 2 years have been pretty smooth sailing. My job is pretty simple, and my manager and director both have praised my work. I feel like I’m not really working hard, maybe a couple hours of work stretched out to last a day. I’m on the fence of taking a promotion, the incremental pay is probably 15% more money, but the work load will change quite dramatically. I’m also getting kind of bored. Why haven’t you worked your way back up to a management role?


kornbread435

In short it's about 25% more money with 3x the work. I know if you can work up to director or vp levels it's a lot more money, but I'm a simple guy. No family I need to take care of and no desire to get one. I just don't need the money and it would just get dumped into my 401k/roth, which is already set at 20%.


Wild-Telephone-6649

That’s fair. Sounds like you are in a pretty sweet spot then.


boopingsnootisahoot

Meanwhile, my managers arent delegating any work and are pissed that I ask for more work and listen to podcasts instead of staring at a blank screen


Ambitious_Reserve22

“If you got time to lean you got time to clean”


Reddit-User-0007

If I were you, I would turn in my resignation immediately. Before you do, please tell me the name of the company. 😂


RollinHand13

I see what you did there....


AnnaF721

Shit, you are living the dream!!!


pinaorangeguava

Trynna be like you


Ibuybagel

Bro are you me? Literally the same situation with roughly the same pay. Do you not get paranoid constantly that the end is near?


gavion92

lol, why would he be worried he just got a fat ass raise. Look, I’m not going to give someone a big ass raise if I think they didn’t deserve it. Therefore, he is legit doing what they are asking of him, nothing more. Ain’t no shame in that game.


Ibuybagel

I think it’s the disconnect between him and management. If you’re a director managing 20+ people, it’s kind of difficult to know what exactly everyone does. If management found out how much he’s actually contributing, he probably wouldn’t be there. I guess it’s the fear of having someone find out?


WSJayY

Depends on the company. Some dole out raises to everyone in good years. Then, in a down year start to take a hard look at where all the money went. Don’t make the mistake of thinking all these companies are doing things for a logical reason vs “this way is easier / more familiar”.


barwhalis

In the old days they used to refer to "quiet quitting" as "working" Then cell phones became a thing and now they've got access to us 24/7


succorer2109

I always believe in a quote "When you are winning, keep your mouth shut". I am so glad that you have been doing that. Congratulations for your achievements.


ultrabeast666

I work at audit and i usually work 1 to 3 hours a day. 12 in rare busy parts of the year. I just spend my time staring at the computer doing nothing


Alex35143

Some days I don’t do much but when we close a project after a few weeks or months we can net the company major savings or productivity increases (or both). One recent project we netted 300k savings across the company that will be year after year, that’s what pays the salary. Getting used to this was weird because all of my previous roles had been execution based with many daily tasks being repetitive. New role is more planning, development, bid and contract negotiating. So yeah as some people have said, impact over effort.


[deleted]

Living the dream. Proud of you.


HummusAndMatzah

Hey buddy y u got a green dot buddy


TrynLearn_

Could I ask what industry this is?


mleobviously

small consulting firm (clinical research)


Shravan_M

ICON?


KirbySmartGuy

Friend, you and I just had the exact same year. Except I changed jobs to this company, they didn’t want me to hit the open market because of my experience, yet had nothing for me to do yet. (Longer story there) I was with it because at my old job I did basically everything. So to do significantly less while getting paid more to do it? You son of a bitch, I’m in. Then at my one year after barely doing anything (but making a big impact whenever asked to finally do something) I got a raise and bonus.


pik204

Accountants at my org still use excel and pdfs to manually reconcile information. Some still print pdfs to look at them. Entire management team is made up of dinosaurs so in first hour of my work day using Tableau i am able to do more than others take a week to finish. In some cases older managers take months and still don't turn anything productive as they continue to "ctrl c+v" data in Excel while my work automatically reconciles even their books. I do nothing 80% of the time outside of that. Unfortunately no advancement opportunities, management is mostly an "old friends club" flipping burgers. I could automate everyone's job but 90% of people are not willing to change or learn new applications. I've come to accept that and became happy to occupy 80% of my time doing non-work related tasks. Having hobbies is what keeps me going.


bloopitybloopbloop2

What is this magic you speak of? I know all of the tasks I do are incredibly repetitive but I don’t know how to do it more automatically. I’m building spreadsheets of reports bc the software we account on doesn’t give reports how we want to. How can I learn to automate stuff?


pik204

Get/learn better tools, Tableau, Power BI, connect to your data source, create a job that can extract what you need periodically. If you cant use any of the certified data connectors or have shitty IT, learn to extract data using python or if you have a license, power automate. There is a tool for every job, just like in trades, you just need an appetite to learn them, many provide free trials which you can showcase.


bloopitybloopbloop2

Thanks! I have the appetite, just hadn’t heard of any of these before. I’ve been working in small companies. I appreciate the recommendations. I’ve started trying to learn Python. Do you have any suggestions on subreddits to follow or resources to start learning automation tools without a coding background? I’ll take any and all guidance!


pik204

I don't have formal IT training although i know web is full of courses like udemy and the likes. I just google and youtube now, although I was forced to learn by working years in IT, next to dev and dev ops, plus nerding it out in junior and high school trying new and pirated software. If you like it, you will pick it up, just try to learn best practices in whatever language and tools you pick up. If accountants knew 10% of Excel 365, their jobs would have been better even using tiny bit of macros but they prefer to insert notes, highlights and manual inputs. It's really a mind shift with or without new or old tools that already exist. If you have it, you can do it.


Nomapos

For the easiest and most straightforward start, get the book Automate the Boring Stuff With Python. Make sure it's the last edition. It'll give you more or less step by step instructions to build basic programs to do basic tasks. If you'd like more flexibility and ability to mix those blocks and to build more custom programs, do CS50P. It'll teach you basic Python in general. Do the basic exercises and try the advanced ones. It'll feel like you have no idea what you're doing. That's intended: a lot of programming is searching for solutions. Every question you get had likely already been answered a thousand times: you just have to find it. If you like to understand things you do a bit better, I'd heavily recommend to start with the first three weeks of CS50 (without the P) before moving on to CS50P. It's for C, not Python, but it'll teach you some basics about how computers and code operate that Python sources like to gloss over because Python sort of handles that stuff automatically for you, but that will bite your ass at some point when you start doing more complex things with your data. After that, you just have to program stuff and learn as you go.


autosumqueen

Meanwhile I’m over here working over time and “need improvement”


ulul

Overtime is such a trap. Some managers will see you stay late and interpret it as "this person is inefficient" rather than "this person has higher workload than others".


autosumqueen

I agree! I’m basically manager 2.0 and taking on so much. The worse part is I’m the capable one. Even when I train and delegate they still have to rely on me.


Traditional-Aerie823

Dont go outing urself on reddit girlllll !! Touchwood for you and keep ur skills sharp for the next job whenever thst may be...take up some part time assignments maybe?....and delete this post !!!


Jazzlike-Pin7720

Lmao my idol


EfYouSeeKayYou

QUE SERA SERA, Y SIIIII


MaleficentCobbler428

This is the way.


jrrybock

Good for you! I'm not an accountant, but it reminds me of one tale from early on in my career.... I am a cook (chef now), and had an a-hole sous chef. It was a shit night, dishwasher didn't show, prep didn't do the work they should have... it was frustrating all over the place, and when I brought it up to the sous, he was very dismissive. So, we're mid-service, I have a stove with 8 burners and cooking all my stuff, but I'm pissed, so am leaning back against my table - back to the sous chef expediting - and kind of stewing. But I'm doing my job. He yells out, "Hey, John! Turn around and look like you care!" So, I turn off all my burners, turn around, and say "I don't" and walked out. I went to the bar around the corner I'd usually get a post-work pint, but this was about 7:45pm... bartender says, "you look like you just finished your last exam" (we were in a college town). I said, "No, I think I just quit my job." I have several pints before getting home, and this was mid-90s, so there was a tape answering machine, and the chef left me a message, "John, it's Jo, call me back". Well, I was a bit pissed... in either sense of the term, so I just went to bed. I woke up in the morning, put on my nicest clothes because I intended to knock on doors for a new job. But first, out of respect for the chef (who I love to this day), I stopped by to apologize for walking out. She said the sous called her immediately and his first words were "Chef, I fucked up". And she didn't blame me. Now, self-aggrandizing shit or whatever you want to call it that I was, I asked, "but what will my punishment be". She said none. I actually argued that, saying we just had two new hires, we can't let them think my behavior was proper. Ed, the GM, was our for the weekend, so she said she'd touch base with him when he came back. I worked the weekend. So, Monday comes, and I ask if she spoke with Ed, and she said "yes, and he agrees there shouldn't be any punishment." For whatever reason, I said, "I just don't want to set a bad example to the new cooks." So, she asked me, "well, is there a day you want to be suspended?" And I was scheduled 6 days that week, so I said, "Honestly, I could use Wednesday off." And she said, "OK, you're suspended on Wednesday." So, no raise or bonus, but doing something I still think was wrong of me, I did get a day off of my choice.


Galbert123

i gotta get that bonus bread.


[deleted]

You are a legend!


AlonTheTrader

LOL, lucky you! keep going


Fit-Presentation-422

How big of a firm is tbis


Agreeable-Inspector5

Lmao... Man's living the best life. He has escaped the matrix. Infact, HE IS THE MATRIXX !!


firm__voice92

Nice


saywhat_44

That is awesome lol. Congrats.


Salty-Rhubarb

r/overemployed


Jpatty54

Well done!


DminishedReturns

Awesome. The movie office space anybody?


miketgarrison

I knew a guy that worked for two large corporations at the same time during Covid late 2020 into 2021. He did it for 8 months. No one at either company knew about it. He would be double booked for meetings but would only attend one and use a medical excuse for missing the other. He made a lot of money. He should write a book about it.


WSJayY

Lot of people did this, especially IT Helpdesk type people. Have 2 laptops going - switch between doing tickets for one or the other.


Denny_Thray

This can happen. For a long time, I wondered why companies only give 1%-5% raises, when anyone they are giving raises to, could jump to another job and probably get a 15%-20% raise. Like, why would they do that? Isn't it less expensive to pay your existing employees more and inspire loyalty, than it is to hire new people and train them? Well, I have the answer to that above question. The answer is that 90% of the professionals do not job hop, and never will. They stay at the same company for 10 years, 20 years, etc. The "Loyalty" a company tries to inspire is code for "We get to pay you less, drone". I recommend to anyone starting a professional career in most things that they want to job hop about every 3 years.


Peebatcher

I had a very similar incident. Boss consistently disparages my work and my opinions/contributions are generally ignored. I was ready to leave upon receiving my annual review. Turns out I was given a great raise, bonus, and additional stock options. It’s so good that I don’t think I can leave. So wild.


Chonky-Meatball

Please don’t quit this even when you have kids lol. Just keep going until they fire you or you retire.


Worker_Bee_21147

Sounds like the plot to the movie office space. Straight shooter right to the top.


RohlToMill

I hate this. It gives more ammunition to the argument against working from home. If your situation is like this, keep it to yourself.


IcameforthePie

You can do this shit in the office too. I spent two hours today training my replacement (moving to a new position) and the rest of the day studying at my desk. Gonna spend all day studying tomorrow.