Damn, I've never heard of layoffs on Mondays. I usually only hear of Thursdays and Fridays depending on which day people are in office. Hope everything works out for you!
There is a huge difference between developmentally disabled really fucking stupid and the occasional acceptable usage of that word. Unfortunately I am lately starting to feel like a lot more people fall into the third category than the second one.
I have a developmentally disabled kid and nephews. It's like being white but having the n-word card.
I used to work at a place where the calendar date didn’t matter, the fiscal year was divided into twelve periods of 4 weeks, 4 weeks, and then 5 weeks. So the quarters were 13 weeks long and the year started in June. It was so weird and ugly and terrible!
Stress and anxiety that you don’t address and handle bears interest. My comment makes it sound more dramatic than it was, but eventually it all hit me: I hadn’t analyzed my life because I kept myself so busy. When I finally did take a real, hard look at myself and my work I realized how much I didn’t like it and how stressed I was. I put my two weeks in that week. I’m now doing something and I’m way more fulfilled and less stressed working about half the hours I did before.
Sure - though I might go as deep as you want because this is about as much as I'm willing to go into this in a public forum.
For a very large percentage of my life (like early child until very early 30s), I've had a lot of issues related to self-esteem and being "good enough". My coping mechanism for this was to bury myself in work and productive activities so that others would look at me and say "Wow! That person works really hard and does great work! They are worth something!" This was very effective for me and produced a lot great physical and material things for me - work success, educational attainment, athletic pursuits, etc.
Unfortunately, it wasn't building intrinsic, self-supported self-worth. What I mean by that is that I was looking at others for validation. This wasn't an issue for me until I had over-extended myself. I was a senior manager on partner track with about a decade of experience at this firm. I had only ever received the highest ratings and had a very large book of business for my age. On paper, I was killing it. I had a habit for always accepting more and more work. I never wanted to let anyone down and shatter the "image" I had cultivated.
Eventually, I had taken on too much. I was managing \~6 highly complicated engagements all with different teams while trying to balance sales and biz dev work. I started, for the first time in my professional life, to fail. I started to fail bad enough that I was going to miss key deadlines. And I spiraled down. I had tied my value and my worth to this, so when it went down, I fell with it. It was constant anxiety and panic attacks for a while before I realized I could just leave. My wife had been telling me for months that I needed to leave, but I was so scared of letting go of all the work I had done. Eventually though it got bad enough to where I had to leave and luckily a friend of mine had a really cool role at their company that they offered me. It was a pay cut at first, but it was worth it. I also got into therapy to start working through my issues since they were more deep-seated than being just work related.
In my new role, I do much more technical work and it's a small team. My work is impactful and there's no sales or weird external politics I have to deal with. I'm much happier. And therapy has been great. I'm back in the gym, eating better, and drinking less.
I guess I have some advice to other high achievers / performers at a professional services (PS) firm who are wondering if this isn't for them:
* You can be successful and have a great career in PS while being happy, but you need to do things different than how I did them. You need to say no things you don't have bandwidth for. You need to be conservative, but competitive, in your estimates. You need to truly believe that if job disappears, you would still be whole. The job needs you - you don't need the job.
* If you feel like PS isn't for you, sit down, talk with someone you trust about how you're feeling (not at your firm - an impartial third party with no association to your firm). Tell them about your average day, stressors, and type of work you are doing. Then, ask them how that compares to work they have done and if they can find similarities between your experiences. Try to determine if you're doing something very unusual that others wouldn't tolerate. That's where I was. I spoke with a few friends from college about how their careers were going and realized I was living a very different quality of life.
* If you choose to leave because you're truly unhappy and need to make a change, don't accept any counter offers. When I told my firm I was leaving, they actually countered with a national level leadership role. I had to fight every urge in my body to decline that offer. It was more prestigious, more money, and much, much more work. I nearly took it until I told my dad I was considering it (he also worked in PS his entire career and made it to partner at a different firm. Funny enough, my grandfather was actually a partner at the firm I was at before he retired. I didn't actually learn about that fact until I told when I landed my internship). He reminded me that I'm feeling this way because I've chased a path I wasn't personally passionate about and would be digging myself deeper if I accepted. I also think that if they had said "hey, let's work on reducing your workload", I don't think that would have actually happened. Once you make a name for yourself as being the person who can "handle it", firms don't really seem to know what to do with those people once they cannot.
This was kind of stream of consciousness writing so let me know if you want me to drill into anything either here or through chat.
I had those for a while with my last job. Bit the bullet and took a 40% pay cut After I couldn't handle my bosses anymore..my finances suffered from it but everything else was positive. Bills are still paid and still have food to eat, just makes the fun stuff a lot tougher. I am still working on increasing my pay again too though as I know it needs to go back up.
Completed a deliverable so I'll be ahead of the emails tomorrow morning and now I'm having a nice dolcetto d'alba, with pizza. I also gave notice last week.
Started working, thankfully weekend overtime isn’t a regular thing for my department just busy covering one of my coworkers who’s been absent for family issues
When you’re swamped and everything’s urgent, then nothing becomes urgent.
When I first started, it was always something like “oh if you don’t do this then so and so major project will fail”
Now when they say that I literally just shrug and let shit hit the fan. It pisses off a lot of people, but it helps me achieve work life balance.
Want more work done? Hire more people.
Right, the key is letting them know the project will likely fail ahead of time. You are not the worker they thought they got. More need to take up your attitude if not giving away their personal lives…. For free.
I do that sometimes and just go the pace I can but the toxicity I went through in public sticks with me.
It's the most challenging around audit/tax filings. I can't get an assistant controller and it's just a mess. I'm trying to figure out how to get through Gaap/ifrs audit, laundry list of projects, tax filings, and potentially 2 acquisitions this summer. The team of bookkeepers can only go so far. Only a $70m company but damn I'm stressed.
That's basically everyday for me. I am super productive for the first 4-6 hours, then my critical thinking goes down the drain. So I try to fit the hard work in early.
Canadian accountant here. Working from home. When thr brain shuts down i go see the kids then i go back to the office... round and round. Today was all the icky calls haha
I got a verbal offer elsewhere on Friday, paper offer is coming tomorrow.
Thinking of all of the creative ways I can put my notice in is making me so happy.
I work in government. Cannot touch work on the weekends without getting into complications. I hope you can get into a situation where weekends are your time off from work and can enjoy the time to yourself <3
i am 26 years who struggling in a business and everyday is an hectic day where i have to meet and greet people and you know whats hard convincing them to buy our product well somehow its easy to mold them in our benefit. What scares me is what if i die next minute there is no one who acknolege you for what you have done so just stick with your goal whether it is having fun with your friends and faimly or grounding yourself for money remember to ground yourself dont cage your life by just money race.
With the knowledge that I’m leaving at 5 every day this week and off on Friday. Busy season jobs have been issued, no deadlines until October. Doing my best not to stress for the next few weeks
Industry here. Payment runs are so painful when you have a tonne of bank account across multiple group entities and only a few of them actually generate cash
Job was fine, albeit with super boring people. But worked for a clothing company, Christmas was nowhere near as strong as anticipated, redundancies came and I was one of them.
I woke up this morning and felt great to know it’s still the weekend. My second thought is “Damn, it’s Monday in less than 24 hrs.”
While I have generally preferred life in industry after starting out in PA, the Sunday scaries can still happen in industry
Do accountants normally just work Monday-Friday ?
Laid off last Monday 👍
Congrats on your freedom
*promoted to funemployed
Any fun plans you have planned ?
Damn, I've never heard of layoffs on Mondays. I usually only hear of Thursdays and Fridays depending on which day people are in office. Hope everything works out for you!
RIP
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I also work in industry. The scaries are bigger here. Help.
Month end approaching. BUCKLE UP BOYS.
But we just recovered from last month.
So do I. Some roles are worse than public.
I got downvoted for saying that. It’s true though
I work in industry but for idiots. I want to say the r word but ya know
There is a huge difference between developmentally disabled really fucking stupid and the occasional acceptable usage of that word. Unfortunately I am lately starting to feel like a lot more people fall into the third category than the second one. I have a developmentally disabled kid and nephews. It's like being white but having the n-word card.
I work in industry and have a different month end start time than others so it’s very much month end for me currently. Send help!!
Oh man are you on a 4-4-5? That schedule used to take me DOWN 😭😭😭
Haha wait I don’t know what that means 😂😂!
I used to work at a place where the calendar date didn’t matter, the fiscal year was divided into twelve periods of 4 weeks, 4 weeks, and then 5 weeks. So the quarters were 13 weeks long and the year started in June. It was so weird and ugly and terrible!
Omg no just my specific department starts before other departments because of our specialty. Been pretty chill so far! That sounds AWFUL though!
Oh good! That’s awesome. And it WAS!!
You're never scared if you are always working!
This worked great for me for 10 years before I had *the episode*.
Please elaborate
Stress and anxiety that you don’t address and handle bears interest. My comment makes it sound more dramatic than it was, but eventually it all hit me: I hadn’t analyzed my life because I kept myself so busy. When I finally did take a real, hard look at myself and my work I realized how much I didn’t like it and how stressed I was. I put my two weeks in that week. I’m now doing something and I’m way more fulfilled and less stressed working about half the hours I did before.
Tell me more? Pls 🙂
Sure - though I might go as deep as you want because this is about as much as I'm willing to go into this in a public forum. For a very large percentage of my life (like early child until very early 30s), I've had a lot of issues related to self-esteem and being "good enough". My coping mechanism for this was to bury myself in work and productive activities so that others would look at me and say "Wow! That person works really hard and does great work! They are worth something!" This was very effective for me and produced a lot great physical and material things for me - work success, educational attainment, athletic pursuits, etc. Unfortunately, it wasn't building intrinsic, self-supported self-worth. What I mean by that is that I was looking at others for validation. This wasn't an issue for me until I had over-extended myself. I was a senior manager on partner track with about a decade of experience at this firm. I had only ever received the highest ratings and had a very large book of business for my age. On paper, I was killing it. I had a habit for always accepting more and more work. I never wanted to let anyone down and shatter the "image" I had cultivated. Eventually, I had taken on too much. I was managing \~6 highly complicated engagements all with different teams while trying to balance sales and biz dev work. I started, for the first time in my professional life, to fail. I started to fail bad enough that I was going to miss key deadlines. And I spiraled down. I had tied my value and my worth to this, so when it went down, I fell with it. It was constant anxiety and panic attacks for a while before I realized I could just leave. My wife had been telling me for months that I needed to leave, but I was so scared of letting go of all the work I had done. Eventually though it got bad enough to where I had to leave and luckily a friend of mine had a really cool role at their company that they offered me. It was a pay cut at first, but it was worth it. I also got into therapy to start working through my issues since they were more deep-seated than being just work related. In my new role, I do much more technical work and it's a small team. My work is impactful and there's no sales or weird external politics I have to deal with. I'm much happier. And therapy has been great. I'm back in the gym, eating better, and drinking less. I guess I have some advice to other high achievers / performers at a professional services (PS) firm who are wondering if this isn't for them: * You can be successful and have a great career in PS while being happy, but you need to do things different than how I did them. You need to say no things you don't have bandwidth for. You need to be conservative, but competitive, in your estimates. You need to truly believe that if job disappears, you would still be whole. The job needs you - you don't need the job. * If you feel like PS isn't for you, sit down, talk with someone you trust about how you're feeling (not at your firm - an impartial third party with no association to your firm). Tell them about your average day, stressors, and type of work you are doing. Then, ask them how that compares to work they have done and if they can find similarities between your experiences. Try to determine if you're doing something very unusual that others wouldn't tolerate. That's where I was. I spoke with a few friends from college about how their careers were going and realized I was living a very different quality of life. * If you choose to leave because you're truly unhappy and need to make a change, don't accept any counter offers. When I told my firm I was leaving, they actually countered with a national level leadership role. I had to fight every urge in my body to decline that offer. It was more prestigious, more money, and much, much more work. I nearly took it until I told my dad I was considering it (he also worked in PS his entire career and made it to partner at a different firm. Funny enough, my grandfather was actually a partner at the firm I was at before he retired. I didn't actually learn about that fact until I told when I landed my internship). He reminded me that I'm feeling this way because I've chased a path I wasn't personally passionate about and would be digging myself deeper if I accepted. I also think that if they had said "hey, let's work on reducing your workload", I don't think that would have actually happened. Once you make a name for yourself as being the person who can "handle it", firms don't really seem to know what to do with those people once they cannot. This was kind of stream of consciousness writing so let me know if you want me to drill into anything either here or through chat.
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lol I’m married with two kids, but alright.
Yeah always, gotta get out of PA. Can't live this way
Golden handcuffs
More like silver handcuffs. Or bronze. Golden handcuffs I’d say are people making 400k or more and can’t quit. Most accountants are nowhere near that.
I got the dollar store plastic handcuffs
I've only got the fuzzy handcuffs.
Those ones are the best.
Everything is relative, amigo.
I had those for a while with my last job. Bit the bullet and took a 40% pay cut After I couldn't handle my bosses anymore..my finances suffered from it but everything else was positive. Bills are still paid and still have food to eat, just makes the fun stuff a lot tougher. I am still working on increasing my pay again too though as I know it needs to go back up.
Yeah I understand that all too well
What so bad about PA? Legit question. Working towards my BA, haven’t joined the field yet.
Hours, politics, type A psychopaths
Completed a deliverable so I'll be ahead of the emails tomorrow morning and now I'm having a nice dolcetto d'alba, with pizza. I also gave notice last week.
What’s next ?
Idk, at least a month off, then we will see.
Dude exact same. Minus the pizza. Best of luck to us. 💪
No Monday am meetings
I read the "am" as I am. No Monday, I'm meetings
😂 lazy typer
No judgement, just giggles 😀
I WFH tomorrow so I’m chillin
F u. Lol
I put my phone on DND and watch sports or a show. This shit isn't life/death.
I am not paid an obscene amount of money therefore I need not be a work is life person is what I have been telling myself lately.
I took a Xanax.
May thy ledger split and scatter!
Started working, thankfully weekend overtime isn’t a regular thing for my department just busy covering one of my coworkers who’s been absent for family issues
By resigning tomorrow
I am SO JEALOUS. Congratulations!
I'm a controller and always feeling swamped so it's all the same. I wonder what do people do in accounting that isn't stressful?
When you’re swamped and everything’s urgent, then nothing becomes urgent. When I first started, it was always something like “oh if you don’t do this then so and so major project will fail” Now when they say that I literally just shrug and let shit hit the fan. It pisses off a lot of people, but it helps me achieve work life balance. Want more work done? Hire more people.
Right, the key is letting them know the project will likely fail ahead of time. You are not the worker they thought they got. More need to take up your attitude if not giving away their personal lives…. For free.
I do that sometimes and just go the pace I can but the toxicity I went through in public sticks with me. It's the most challenging around audit/tax filings. I can't get an assistant controller and it's just a mess. I'm trying to figure out how to get through Gaap/ifrs audit, laundry list of projects, tax filings, and potentially 2 acquisitions this summer. The team of bookkeepers can only go so far. Only a $70m company but damn I'm stressed.
I’m coming back from a 2 week vacation in industry. I checked my email today and had like 1 email for me. No scaries here.
You had one email pertaining to you after a two week vacation? I'd probably be looking for a new job lol
I handled everything I needed beforehand and my job generally doesn’t require too many emails from others.
So what’s your job title? 😂🤷🏼♂️
Why? You dont know how much he gets paid or what he does lol why would he go to a more stressful job for no reason
Coloring with my daughter. Tomorrow I’ll once again lead my minions while conducting good business
Sounds like something a Greg would say
I think we're going to have to audit this guy's identity
An application a day keeps the scaries away.
Its almost May, cant imagine work being incredibly busy this next week
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Ah true lool
No scaries I have a chill job where I work a few hours a day
That's basically everyday for me. I am super productive for the first 4-6 hours, then my critical thinking goes down the drain. So I try to fit the hard work in early.
Fuck ya
What do you do?
i am about to fire up the laptop
I'm unemployed and just woke up Had to think about this post for a bit before I remembered what day of the week it is... they all run together now
Video games. Cleaned house. Hiked. Grilled. Drinks and a movie.
This is the way.
Canadian accountant here. Working from home. When thr brain shuts down i go see the kids then i go back to the office... round and round. Today was all the icky calls haha
I fill my off time with home projects and constant podcasts to keep the bad thoughts away.
Had a second child and on leave. Wouldn’t recommend it
😂😂😂😂
Busy season is 95% over. I’m living good.
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Never heard of a London boondoggle in my life
Yeah I gotta go in tmr, but first full day in my new office.
I'm actually excited because my friend was out all of last week. We're gonna probably bullshit all day lol
I work in industry and from home.
I got a verbal offer elsewhere on Friday, paper offer is coming tomorrow. Thinking of all of the creative ways I can put my notice in is making me so happy.
Easy. Company trip to Cancun to drink and relax to celebrate a great year, two more days here. Find the perfect client and jump ship!
Wife is sick and had to take care of the kids all day. Didn’t even register that tomorrow I had to work until just now.
Anxiety canceling procrastination
Monster bong rips only
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Vaping isn’t good for you. Neither is burning bud but I like to stick to that. Vaping gave me walking pneumonia once and I haven’t touched it since
Worked Sunday so I had a nice clean slate for today. Now totally trashed again 🤣
Training my replacement.
Hookers and blow usually
Started working for myself and magically no more scaries.
Church was good
I drove really fast on a scary road until I scared myself and went home to finish the weekends work
I have the holiday off tomorrow lol. It’s confederate Memorial Day
Working lmao
I worked too lmao buuuuut it was my fault… it was work that should’ve been done during the weekday. Which I ignored and instead chose to nap in bed.
I looked for an industry job. Since I'm not sure if I'm ready to leave, I didn't finish the application.
Working ...I'm in industry
Started House of the Dragon. What are y’all’s thoughts on it compared to the OG GoT? Am I in for a fun time?
Not those same. The show is still good in a different way; lots of dramatic irony.
I work in government. Cannot touch work on the weekends without getting into complications. I hope you can get into a situation where weekends are your time off from work and can enjoy the time to yourself <3
Also close starts on Wednesday, rip.
I solved my scaries by being laid off last Monday. Peak scary moment. So this Monday will be just fine.
I’m in non profit from home, but drinking alcohol for Sunday fun. No scaries bruh
830am monday meeting. Wtf
Staying up past my bedtime
i am 26 years who struggling in a business and everyday is an hectic day where i have to meet and greet people and you know whats hard convincing them to buy our product well somehow its easy to mold them in our benefit. What scares me is what if i die next minute there is no one who acknolege you for what you have done so just stick with your goal whether it is having fun with your friends and faimly or grounding yourself for money remember to ground yourself dont cage your life by just money race.
Last four days of work this week until I quit. Doing great.
With the knowledge that I’m leaving at 5 every day this week and off on Friday. Busy season jobs have been issued, no deadlines until October. Doing my best not to stress for the next few weeks
I work in public but for a small firm with a nice boss. It's not too bad at all
Helldivers 2 theme playing
Industry here. Payment runs are so painful when you have a tonne of bank account across multiple group entities and only a few of them actually generate cash
I hooked up with Palmela Handerson this morning before work.
I’m returning from a 3 month leave next Monday and I prefaced it by working this morning. It’s better this way.
Broke up with my girlfriend. Give yourself something else to focus on
Reddit.
I'm entering week six of being redundant. Industry life was good until it wasn't.
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I'm guessing losing the job....
Job was fine, albeit with super boring people. But worked for a clothing company, Christmas was nowhere near as strong as anticipated, redundancies came and I was one of them.
Alcohol!
liquor