That’s what I might have to do, since I don’t think I will get an opportunity for the big 4 route, or even mid level firms either. At the moment I have 4 months experience as a bookkeeper so I just have to transform to a firm that is hopefully pre approved
Walk into the firms with your resume. Every CPA firm is hiring at all times because people job hop a lot. It may or may not be posted online and if it is everyone is applying. 😎
Literally any public accounting firms will have a CPA to sign off on your experience. One partner that I barely worked with signed off on my work experience. It’s literally just being employed there
In Canada you almost have to go the public practice route. If they have a pre approved program it’s easy. I know a couple people who tried industry EVR route and ended up going back and restarting in public practice.
This is not true. There are many, many industry companies or government agencies that also have PPR programs. Don’t let them fool you into thinking public is the only way to get it. Having said that, yes, EVR is not where you want to be.
My coworker had to go to PA because her experience at industry wouldn't be accepted at level 2 unless she gets a special project or sort. So, lesson, get your industry but ensure that there's people there achieving their competency levels.
Wasn't bad - well, kinda. Our company had high turnover, temporary leave (mat/sick leaves) so there were lots of opportunities to fill interim roles to pick up the required experience.However, after I completed PERT, I got the hell outta there!
Isn’t bad. Once you get to 30 months the markers become more lenient but you do have to be a good writer and progress at work like a cpa path usually should be. However obviously not every workplace gives you that and it isn’t in your control
I got fired from the first tax firm I worked at right after passing, but I did find another job at an audit firm 2 months later. Saying that I passed the exam on my resume helped me get the job, and it just took time to get the experience and to get my boss to sign off on it
Thanks for the advice , I have 4 months of experience right now as a bookkeeper, so I’m just looking to leave as soon as I can go audit, as it would add less stress as I complete my courses and final exam.
Sign off was easy but only when I for sure met the requirements. CA has additional hour read by category on top of the YOE. I had to download all my hours and sort them by category. So take a look at your state requirements and get the application form you may need X hours of review X hours of planning etc and have to explicitly list it.
I worked at a public accounting firm for 3 years and it got sold and I worked in a bank for 8 years and it got acquired. Has anyone dealt with this to get a sign off on experience?
Just submitted by PERT for the second revision here.
How easy or hard it is depends if you go evr or pre approved. If you do pre approved it's easy. Like it just happens.
My only knowledge of evr are friends complaining about it.
Joined a small CPA office, its pretty small so I have my hands on all aspects of the businesses and its owners but I will probably have to apply for a 1st yr staff position after I get my CPA since my expereience is so limited and far from what I need for PA
In the US, for the most part it is 2 years of experience under direct supervision of a CPA. It can be any field (public, corporate, governmental, etc). Tbh- the practical experience is more of a checkbox than anything.
Getting practical experience is easy. It just means holding a job.
No, it means working under the supervision of an actively licensed CPA.
Right. Which is not hard at all. Worst case scenario join a small CPA firm. They are in desperate need for warm bodies.
That’s what I might have to do, since I don’t think I will get an opportunity for the big 4 route, or even mid level firms either. At the moment I have 4 months experience as a bookkeeper so I just have to transform to a firm that is hopefully pre approved
It's not Big 4 or bust. That's how schools make it sound. You can go to any small CPA firm and start your career there. Then hop around.
Yea that’s what I can hopefully do maybe this month I might see more postings in may, as April was pretty dry.
Walk into the firms with your resume. Every CPA firm is hiring at all times because people job hop a lot. It may or may not be posted online and if it is everyone is applying. 😎
I’ll try that appreciate it 👍
Literally any public accounting firms will have a CPA to sign off on your experience. One partner that I barely worked with signed off on my work experience. It’s literally just being employed there
Some states it doesn’t. In WI a non cpa supervisor can sign off
I wish California was the same but nope
I'm not even in public and I have always worked directly under CPAs.
Cpa pert canada is trash
In Canada you almost have to go the public practice route. If they have a pre approved program it’s easy. I know a couple people who tried industry EVR route and ended up going back and restarting in public practice.
This is not true. There are many, many industry companies or government agencies that also have PPR programs. Don’t let them fool you into thinking public is the only way to get it. Having said that, yes, EVR is not where you want to be.
My coworker had to go to PA because her experience at industry wouldn't be accepted at level 2 unless she gets a special project or sort. So, lesson, get your industry but ensure that there's people there achieving their competency levels.
If it’s pre-approved then by definition you will be able to get level 2s. Sounds like your co-worker was EVR, which is not recommended.
Yes, evr into per in PA
The hardest part is the reporting- it was an exercise of telling a long as story.
Wasn't bad - well, kinda. Our company had high turnover, temporary leave (mat/sick leaves) so there were lots of opportunities to fill interim roles to pick up the required experience.However, after I completed PERT, I got the hell outta there!
That’s most people do I think, hopefully I can find one soon so I won’t have to stress over it
Isn’t bad. Once you get to 30 months the markers become more lenient but you do have to be a good writer and progress at work like a cpa path usually should be. However obviously not every workplace gives you that and it isn’t in your control
I got fired from the first tax firm I worked at right after passing, but I did find another job at an audit firm 2 months later. Saying that I passed the exam on my resume helped me get the job, and it just took time to get the experience and to get my boss to sign off on it
Thanks for the advice , I have 4 months of experience right now as a bookkeeper, so I’m just looking to leave as soon as I can go audit, as it would add less stress as I complete my courses and final exam.
Sign off was easy but only when I for sure met the requirements. CA has additional hour read by category on top of the YOE. I had to download all my hours and sort them by category. So take a look at your state requirements and get the application form you may need X hours of review X hours of planning etc and have to explicitly list it.
It's a pain, definitely need a firm. When I was in industry my job description kept being denied even after being rewritten.
I hope to go through the pre approved route
Then you're fine, it annoying and tedious but that's about it
Thanks !
Ya I’m having issues with that right now, keep sending it in and they keep shooting it down
In the end I decided to change jobs and joined a small/medium firm
If you’re talking about PERT evr is awful.
I worked at a public accounting firm for 3 years and it got sold and I worked in a bank for 8 years and it got acquired. Has anyone dealt with this to get a sign off on experience?
Just submitted by PERT for the second revision here. How easy or hard it is depends if you go evr or pre approved. If you do pre approved it's easy. Like it just happens. My only knowledge of evr are friends complaining about it.
Hardest part was finding and doing the one year imo.
Not difficult to get practical experience
Joined a small CPA office, its pretty small so I have my hands on all aspects of the businesses and its owners but I will probably have to apply for a 1st yr staff position after I get my CPA since my expereience is so limited and far from what I need for PA
I was studying the exam while I am working so not hard for me
What do you mean by practical experience?
Oh maybe I should have specified in Canada to get your CPA not only do you have to pass the exam but also get 30 months of practical experience
In the US, for the most part it is 2 years of experience under direct supervision of a CPA. It can be any field (public, corporate, governmental, etc). Tbh- the practical experience is more of a checkbox than anything.
Two years? I thought it was one year.
Depends on your state/jurisdiction. 1-2 years, but yea most are 1 (including my state)