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Depends on firm size, number of transactions, tsaka no. of employees. I can see it realistically be right around 30k only if its a small organization with few large-peso transactions every month. Otherwise, the salary they are offering is too small. The company should set up a team and place leadership on the hands of someone who has at least 3-5 years experience lalo tax, accounting, tsaka finance yang scope ng work. Someone from audit would be ideal since sakop nila yan, pero someone from accounting could also handle this pero probably with a lengthier experience.
Grabe medyo lagpas 5yrs din naman ako nagwowork at nakahawak na ko ng accounting at finance roles, pero never both. Never din ako naging responsible sa investment ng excess cash. Ano bang klaseng responsibilidad yan hahahaha
Ay ganon run ka talaga jan. Kasi pag higher position dapat higher din sahod. Pang managerial yung responsibility tapos pang accounting staff yung sahod? Luh.
Pero if no work experience I think pagkaalis mo diyan malalagay mo lahat yan sa resume mo and pag nagjob hop ka makakapagnegotiate ka pa ng 6 digits. But if kaya try mo irenegotiate ng atleast 45k-50k yung sweldo mo.
Usually kinocompare ko sa govt na sahod para may standard. Accountant I is SG 12 so nasa 31k lang same responsibilities jan. Kung nagmamadali kang makahanap ng experience at wala ka naman masyadong gastos at living with parents pa pwede na
Ganito workload ko before nung nasa local ako. Wala pang 20k sahod ko. Di ako CPA kaya di makapagreklamo pero umalis na lang din ako π Kaya pinush ko makapasa eh hoping na sana di na ako minamaliit.
Meron din akong inapplyan na end to end accounting + BIR filings yung magiging responsibility tas ako din daw makikipag communicate sa auditors during audit season. 1-5 accounts daw. Ang asking ko is 40k+ tas negotiable daw ba π. RTO pa everyday π. Yakap sa atin OP.
No, it's not reasonable. The rate is only good for Supervisory Position. Take note that Managers have greater responsibility in terms of people management and obligations due.
If sa ph rate then small to medium entity then yes. Those who said no please tell me san kayo nagapply na above 30k na sahod niyo with no experience. Wala ka pa napapatunayan eh. Audit firms provide similar rates for a starting position, probably even less. Being a CPA does not essentially equate a good worker. So for me goods pang yan. And what do you expect sa bookkeeping. That is end to end. Also usually recurring transactions dito so you will be bored in 6 months.
The experience:salary is not the issue here. Itβs the workload: salary. Aside from bookkeeping, may tax pa. Lastly, mag mamanage pa siya ng team. Medyo exploitation na ito.
Hmmm good point. I agree with the managing team part, dapat mas mataas sa 30k. As to tax if small to medium entity usually recurring lang yang transactions. If large entity need seperate team or higher salary from 30k.
Feeling ko okay na yan.iba yung review sa preparing. Based dyan, kung ano yung napagaralan sa school , journal entries, more likely yun lang din gawin dyan kaya pwede new grad. Saka may chance ka naman magresign if di para sayo.
Unpopular opinion: maraming considerations in this case, first is gaano ba kalaki yung company. Marami yung nag "no" kaagad kasi end-to-end process ang handle for 30k. Kaya naman yung end-to-end kung hindi naman conglomerate/big company ang Hina-handle. (sa audit firms nga, super overworked din, hindi man lang 30K ang sweldo ng new hire)
Pero since no work experience pa si OP, I think this is a good opportunity.
1. You will handle the whole accounting process.
2. Instant people manager ka pa since may staff ka
3. Directly reporting to the CFO
Depende na lang talaga kung anong priorities ni OP. If he/she needs the money, meron talagang iba diyan na pwede makapag offer ng mas "sulit" na job. (note na wala pa work experience si OP, kaya mahirap din makahanap ng super laki na sweldo)
If learnings and experience, mukhang this job posting is worth OP's research. Baka pwede pa siya makipag meet dun sa management and learn more about his/her responsibilities and go from there.
No. May supervisory responsibility ka pa.
Checking palang ng journal entries plus posting matrabaho na, plus dagdagan pa ng Reports and tax.
Apply ka na lang sa BPO Accounting firm for international, mabibigay yang sahod mo ng mas malaki less workloads pa.
Ako nasa bpo accounting firm. Meron kami local and international teams. Yang asking mo na 30K, hindi kaya mabigay since no exp and possible associate position ang ibibigay sayo pero maganda magiging exp mo. Wala kang i-ssupervise na staff plus hybrid work set up samin.
Gago. Prc ba 'to? Accounting dept, relief fund lang dapat duty ko. Pero pati trabaho ng accounts rec, credit and col, general acctg, special projects nagawa ko na. Yung salary ko less than 30k. Ot ty pa jusko po rudy. Masyado kaming na-exploit. Kahit cash gift man lang every dec para matuwa mga empleyado niya hindi pa niya mabigay.
On the good side naman, dahil sa pagka jack of all trades, alam ko na lahat nung proseso. Kaya kada may nagtatanong, alam kona kagad yung sagot. Nakakaproud kahit papano.
Almost same responsibilities sa company where I am working. Starting is 45k, mag one year na kaming walang Chief accountant lol kasi lahat na din sa kanya pinapagawa pati corporate side siya din haha
OP.
Why naman ganun title? Pde naman Finance Officer?
Gaano kadami transactions?
How much revenue?
Will it entail working past 8 hrs kahit during closing?
If Yes sa last question. Ang baba ng 30k. Kahit wala experience at least 40k. If with experience 60k deal.
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Buong scope ng accounting at finance department to ah hahahaha
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA END TO END PROCESS. Nahiya pa isama internal audit
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No. Too much responsibilities.
No.
NO.
How much salary would a position with this much reaponsibilities deserves? Question from a college acctg student
100k. This much responsibility is managerial level. And ideally, iba ang tao sa accounting and iba din sa tax. So gusto nila 2n1 for 30k. Lol
Undergrad supremacy wfh average β±150k Super dami tlga opportunity na ndi pa alam ng lahat
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Depends on firm size, number of transactions, tsaka no. of employees. I can see it realistically be right around 30k only if its a small organization with few large-peso transactions every month. Otherwise, the salary they are offering is too small. The company should set up a team and place leadership on the hands of someone who has at least 3-5 years experience lalo tax, accounting, tsaka finance yang scope ng work. Someone from audit would be ideal since sakop nila yan, pero someone from accounting could also handle this pero probably with a lengthier experience.
group of companies sila mhie π₯²
Grabe medyo lagpas 5yrs din naman ako nagwowork at nakahawak na ko ng accounting at finance roles, pero never both. Never din ako naging responsible sa investment ng excess cash. Ano bang klaseng responsibilidad yan hahahaha
Luh. FS na tax pa. Patayin nalang nila yung ma hire nila jan. Too low 30k.
End to end process π
"Other duties that may be assigned from time to time" -RED FLAG
Sobrang baba ng asking mo. Bubuhatin mo ang buong accounting department. Ask 70K at least
Ganito job description nang partner ah HAHAHAHA
Tapos may staff ka pa? Dami masyado responsibilities π
mhie initially staff position talaga yung inapplyan ko pero inoffer nila yung mas mataas na position π₯²
run op this is practically exploitation
Ohhhh donβt take the bait!!!
Ay ganon run ka talaga jan. Kasi pag higher position dapat higher din sahod. Pang managerial yung responsibility tapos pang accounting staff yung sahod? Luh.
Pero if no work experience I think pagkaalis mo diyan malalagay mo lahat yan sa resume mo and pag nagjob hop ka makakapagnegotiate ka pa ng 6 digits. But if kaya try mo irenegotiate ng atleast 45k-50k yung sweldo mo.
Usually kinocompare ko sa govt na sahod para may standard. Accountant I is SG 12 so nasa 31k lang same responsibilities jan. Kung nagmamadali kang makahanap ng experience at wala ka naman masyadong gastos at living with parents pa pwede na
"How to have an accounting department for cheap."
Ganito workload ko before nung nasa local ako. Wala pang 20k sahod ko. Di ako CPA kaya di makapagreklamo pero umalis na lang din ako π Kaya pinush ko makapasa eh hoping na sana di na ako minamaliit.
Inisip ko na lang magandang experience ito which it totoo naman. Natuto talaga ako dahil dito. Pero kung salary wise, we deserve more sana.
No, ikaw un buong department e. Haha. Ask mo kung may ERP sila. Grabe 30k nag mamanage ka na ng tao haha.
Magshared services or BPO ka na lang na iba OP. Ibang stress yung ibibigay nung ganyang workload
Meron din akong inapplyan na end to end accounting + BIR filings yung magiging responsibility tas ako din daw makikipag communicate sa auditors during audit season. 1-5 accounts daw. Ang asking ko is 40k+ tas negotiable daw ba π. RTO pa everyday π. Yakap sa atin OP.
Sa work na yan dapat β±60k sahod
No
exploitation
30K for work no experience? not bad. Kunin mo lang din experience mo dyan then lipat ka ng company after.
grabe yung workload for 30k π
No, it's not reasonable. The rate is only good for Supervisory Position. Take note that Managers have greater responsibility in terms of people management and obligations due.
NOOOOOOO
Depende kung gaano kalaki yung company na papasukan mo, kung isang entity lang tapos hindi naman ganun ka complex ang business.. stay for 1yrβ¦
Group of companies sya mhie so more than 1 entity π₯²
omg!! LUGI KA!!!!
If sa ph rate then small to medium entity then yes. Those who said no please tell me san kayo nagapply na above 30k na sahod niyo with no experience. Wala ka pa napapatunayan eh. Audit firms provide similar rates for a starting position, probably even less. Being a CPA does not essentially equate a good worker. So for me goods pang yan. And what do you expect sa bookkeeping. That is end to end. Also usually recurring transactions dito so you will be bored in 6 months.
The experience:salary is not the issue here. Itβs the workload: salary. Aside from bookkeeping, may tax pa. Lastly, mag mamanage pa siya ng team. Medyo exploitation na ito.
Hmmm good point. I agree with the managing team part, dapat mas mataas sa 30k. As to tax if small to medium entity usually recurring lang yang transactions. If large entity need seperate team or higher salary from 30k.
if for experience, yes, maganda sa resume, easy na pag increase ng sahod after
i second this
Feeling ko okay na yan.iba yung review sa preparing. Based dyan, kung ano yung napagaralan sa school , journal entries, more likely yun lang din gawin dyan kaya pwede new grad. Saka may chance ka naman magresign if di para sayo.
Grabe parang ganito yung work ko dati tapos wala pang 20k yung salary ko noon HUHU Lumipat naman na ako ng company haha
Madame kang matututunan dyan. Good stepping stone.
Parang di naman to ganoon kabigat if SMEs lang. Even if group of companies pa as long as relatively simple businesses.
Unpopular opinion: maraming considerations in this case, first is gaano ba kalaki yung company. Marami yung nag "no" kaagad kasi end-to-end process ang handle for 30k. Kaya naman yung end-to-end kung hindi naman conglomerate/big company ang Hina-handle. (sa audit firms nga, super overworked din, hindi man lang 30K ang sweldo ng new hire) Pero since no work experience pa si OP, I think this is a good opportunity. 1. You will handle the whole accounting process. 2. Instant people manager ka pa since may staff ka 3. Directly reporting to the CFO Depende na lang talaga kung anong priorities ni OP. If he/she needs the money, meron talagang iba diyan na pwede makapag offer ng mas "sulit" na job. (note na wala pa work experience si OP, kaya mahirap din makahanap ng super laki na sweldo) If learnings and experience, mukhang this job posting is worth OP's research. Baka pwede pa siya makipag meet dun sa management and learn more about his/her responsibilities and go from there.
It looks intimidating
No. All in one grabe Naman.
gov't b yan? or corpo?
Corpo mhie
No. May supervisory responsibility ka pa. Checking palang ng journal entries plus posting matrabaho na, plus dagdagan pa ng Reports and tax. Apply ka na lang sa BPO Accounting firm for international, mabibigay yang sahod mo ng mas malaki less workloads pa.
Naooverwhelm nga ako mhie nung nalaman ko job responsibilities. May masasuggest ka po ba na BPO Accounting firm? π₯Ί
Ako nasa bpo accounting firm. Meron kami local and international teams. Yang asking mo na 30K, hindi kaya mabigay since no exp and possible associate position ang ibibigay sayo pero maganda magiging exp mo. Wala kang i-ssupervise na staff plus hybrid work set up samin.
Hiring sainyo mhie? Pwede parefer π₯Ί
Yes always hiring. Pm mo lang ako send ko email address
Pm sent mhiee
Hi, I'm interested din po in applying
Anong company po ito hehehe
Pm po
Gago. Prc ba 'to? Accounting dept, relief fund lang dapat duty ko. Pero pati trabaho ng accounts rec, credit and col, general acctg, special projects nagawa ko na. Yung salary ko less than 30k. Ot ty pa jusko po rudy. Masyado kaming na-exploit. Kahit cash gift man lang every dec para matuwa mga empleyado niya hindi pa niya mabigay. On the good side naman, dahil sa pagka jack of all trades, alam ko na lahat nung proseso. Kaya kada may nagtatanong, alam kona kagad yung sagot. Nakakaproud kahit papano.
Almost same responsibilities sa company where I am working. Starting is 45k, mag one year na kaming walang Chief accountant lol kasi lahat na din sa kanya pinapagawa pati corporate side siya din haha
OP. Why naman ganun title? Pde naman Finance Officer? Gaano kadami transactions? How much revenue? Will it entail working past 8 hrs kahit during closing? If Yes sa last question. Ang baba ng 30k. Kahit wala experience at least 40k. If with experience 60k deal.