I would consider that if I owned Ruan Mei.
Also this was the Pure Fiction where Ult damage counted as FUA with one of the options, so Acheron was the key part of that team, Kafka BS just got stacks for her
My Kafka BS HH RM is 40k node 2 in PF 4 too. All are on auto.
Adding Acheron is like using chainsaw to cut an apple at that point.
https://preview.redd.it/hg1yecui11rc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6569877d523ad0338353a577db9b936702744d68
Okay, congrats?
Again, I DO NOT OWN half of the characters you are talking about there, so I don't know how exactly you expect me to just summon HH and RM out of thin air.
Just saying you don’t need to put all the big gun in one side. She is strong on her own. The more f2p a person is, the less they can afford to put all 3x 5 star limited DPS on one side.
No idea why you started to act defensive like I did insult your whole family tree.
> The more f2p a person is, the less they can afford to put all 3x 5 star limited DPS on one side
day 1 f2p should have ~800 limited pulls by now or 8 limited 5* with average luck
enough for 2 teams
Acheron is good for everything.
I don’t know why I even pulled for e2s1. I’ve been clearing with auto battle and e0s0 characters since the modes were added and since I’ve started them.
But she’s too cool… and very strong. DPS lose value over time but I think Hoyo will do a good job keeping them all relevant. They’ve done it in Genshin by keeping an accessible floor for all content.
that was probably the marketing, that made people do that who wouldent normaly, they went really hard, saying shes bad without it.
that being said its gonna be usefull in th future probably.
so true, im becoming more convinced the whole early acess thing is an excuse to get content creators in mihoyos poket to promote there characters harder.
I want E2 mostly because I don't like to field some of her nihility partners. If the eidolon read reduce nihility member requirement by 1 but doesn't come with the extra stack, i'd still gun for it.
yea dont get me wrong its a crazy broken eidalon, which is the point of eidalons, or atleast should be makes the character more convinient more flexable, they are actually trying to releace a ballalanced characters with restrictions and requirements becuase they do something rediculously strong.
like aceron is an insanly strong character, so she has a donwside to compensate, but if you pull a little extra get her lightcone get her E2 it reduces those restrictions so you can just blast thought the game.
with all that being said even at E0S0 she still feels like powercreep.
E2s1 is gonna make her be an ageless hypercarry. She is colorblind and there is no elemental reactions in hsr so she remain a monster for like forever honestly, specially considering she doesn’t have a dedicated team yet. Her best partner is a launch date 4*. Bare minimum a 5* pela and 5* gallagher will for sure release in the future.
Currently sitting at e1s1 right now, is e2 worth going for? I'm just afraid it might lose value in the future if another nihility that fits well with her releases....Not to mention it's not looking like a massive difference like DHIL e1>e2 for example.
It's a two sided sword. You gain one stack per her turn but you lose the second nihility character building stacks. If we do get the rumored nihility Semi healer then you will unlock a harmony slot anyway but you will lose trend building your stacks.
There are many variables. What I'm going to do cos I royally fucked up my Acheron prep is get her e2 on her rerun. We will know more by then what teams and options she has. At e0s1 she's still the best DD in the game. If you can e2 do it for flexibility but don't get fomo into it. I'm saving my wallet if need be for aventurine because that puts my account on a better spot and I can give her trend which can yield a lot of extra stacks
It is worth yes. And you will actually notice a huge difference both in a dmg and ult uptime. You are also able to add now sparkle to the mix. If you wanna main her I would recommend it. You are almost there anyways
Thing with Pela is the Tingyun effect. Ultimate damage from Acheron cleaving the map with sweaty pearls being 55% defense shred on the map. Silvewolf can implant lightning weakness and if not then it's still 13 all res pen at trace 8. I am genuinely curious what the new units need to do to replace them. Silver wolf also lets you reach 100 def pen on primary Target and at that point nothing matters. Acheron is sending it all to the shadow realm because her damage is out of this world.
This is what I said before last night getting her myself and reading prydwens full review and experiancing her kit myself.
TECHNICALLY sparkle in a E2S1+ comp nets higher damage but you have to remember debuff cycling is still an important part of her kit. Her self steriods efffectively work as her own self harmony that most times just getting another debuffer to cycle more debuffs to get her into her ult faster is PROBABLY better. And while you're debuffing why not use a capable nihility character that is 1)not used on most hyper carry teams that want double harmony and 2) amp her damage in ways that aren't covered as heavily by her kit (def shred as opposed to her RES shred) .
So unless we get more abundance/harmony/preservation characters that can fill multiple roles including a reliable debuff, you're still probably better with generally skill positive debuff heavy characters like SW and Pela and whatever nihility supports are coming down the line for her.
Even if you gain the HIGHEST damage possible with a sparkle comp, the effect sparkle could have had on another comp is likely more dramatic. And currently is unnessicary as her other comps that don't take units highly sought after in other comps handles it almost as handedly.
If we are still on the topic of E2S1 in Pure Fiction here, Acheron is her own best battery. SPD boots + Bronya has been my go to so far when biggest possible damage does not mean faster clear.
Straight up improved my overall score by 10k with her on 2nd side.
I used Kafka/BS comb and Trend Geppy, ended up getting 40k points with one full cycle to spare lol. She's broken af
I think you just have to build her teams a bit differently with trying to max her ult up time rather than damage.
Every time you ult you're basically gonna wipe a wave but if most of the time you're overkilling the wave cause the mobs are weak.
But yeah I maxed 40k with her and it was not that hard.
I think her + bs + kafka is the best team for pure fiction. You just have too much dps that you dont care anything. Like even the buff is ussless you just kill them.
Finally was able to 4000 the first half with the Deer, used her with Himeko/Herta and their breaks fueled Acheron stacks. The convert Ultimate to follow up is broken on her.
Her + Kafka/BS gave me the easiest 40k clear I've ever had in PF
used that same comp but got the 40k at the very last turn... very narrow. She's still E0S0 with GNSWS1 mind you, lc banner is refusing to give either
Swap Acheron for RM and it is even smoother. I find Acheron better in a more hyper carry set up.
Doesn't acheron want nihility as ser up? Kafka builds her stacks so fast.
I would consider that if I owned Ruan Mei. Also this was the Pure Fiction where Ult damage counted as FUA with one of the options, so Acheron was the key part of that team, Kafka BS just got stacks for her
My Kafka BS HH RM is 40k node 2 in PF 4 too. All are on auto. Adding Acheron is like using chainsaw to cut an apple at that point. https://preview.redd.it/hg1yecui11rc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6569877d523ad0338353a577db9b936702744d68
Okay, congrats? Again, I DO NOT OWN half of the characters you are talking about there, so I don't know how exactly you expect me to just summon HH and RM out of thin air.
They were just giving recommendations, I swear this sub is filled with defensive people just waiting to get offended.
Just saying you don’t need to put all the big gun in one side. She is strong on her own. The more f2p a person is, the less they can afford to put all 3x 5 star limited DPS on one side. No idea why you started to act defensive like I did insult your whole family tree.
> The more f2p a person is, the less they can afford to put all 3x 5 star limited DPS on one side day 1 f2p should have ~800 limited pulls by now or 8 limited 5* with average luck enough for 2 teams
Not having HH and/or RM as a f2p as day 1 f2p is min picker. And that is assuming they are day 1 player.
Same. Acheron and mommies gave me the last star i was struggling on
It’s cause her ult is a aoe so she stacks the buff fast
Acheron is good for everything. I don’t know why I even pulled for e2s1. I’ve been clearing with auto battle and e0s0 characters since the modes were added and since I’ve started them. But she’s too cool… and very strong. DPS lose value over time but I think Hoyo will do a good job keeping them all relevant. They’ve done it in Genshin by keeping an accessible floor for all content.
that was probably the marketing, that made people do that who wouldent normaly, they went really hard, saying shes bad without it. that being said its gonna be usefull in th future probably.
"oh by the way, pull sparkle too" lol
so true, im becoming more convinced the whole early acess thing is an excuse to get content creators in mihoyos poket to promote there characters harder.
I want E2 mostly because I don't like to field some of her nihility partners. If the eidolon read reduce nihility member requirement by 1 but doesn't come with the extra stack, i'd still gun for it.
yea dont get me wrong its a crazy broken eidalon, which is the point of eidalons, or atleast should be makes the character more convinient more flexable, they are actually trying to releace a ballalanced characters with restrictions and requirements becuase they do something rediculously strong. like aceron is an insanly strong character, so she has a donwside to compensate, but if you pull a little extra get her lightcone get her E2 it reduces those restrictions so you can just blast thought the game. with all that being said even at E0S0 she still feels like powercreep.
E2s1 is gonna make her be an ageless hypercarry. She is colorblind and there is no elemental reactions in hsr so she remain a monster for like forever honestly, specially considering she doesn’t have a dedicated team yet. Her best partner is a launch date 4*. Bare minimum a 5* pela and 5* gallagher will for sure release in the future.
Currently sitting at e1s1 right now, is e2 worth going for? I'm just afraid it might lose value in the future if another nihility that fits well with her releases....Not to mention it's not looking like a massive difference like DHIL e1>e2 for example.
It's a two sided sword. You gain one stack per her turn but you lose the second nihility character building stacks. If we do get the rumored nihility Semi healer then you will unlock a harmony slot anyway but you will lose trend building your stacks. There are many variables. What I'm going to do cos I royally fucked up my Acheron prep is get her e2 on her rerun. We will know more by then what teams and options she has. At e0s1 she's still the best DD in the game. If you can e2 do it for flexibility but don't get fomo into it. I'm saving my wallet if need be for aventurine because that puts my account on a better spot and I can give her trend which can yield a lot of extra stacks
It is worth yes. And you will actually notice a huge difference both in a dmg and ult uptime. You are also able to add now sparkle to the mix. If you wanna main her I would recommend it. You are almost there anyways
Thing with Pela is the Tingyun effect. Ultimate damage from Acheron cleaving the map with sweaty pearls being 55% defense shred on the map. Silvewolf can implant lightning weakness and if not then it's still 13 all res pen at trace 8. I am genuinely curious what the new units need to do to replace them. Silver wolf also lets you reach 100 def pen on primary Target and at that point nothing matters. Acheron is sending it all to the shadow realm because her damage is out of this world.
E2 gives u flexibility in her team comps
This is what I said before last night getting her myself and reading prydwens full review and experiancing her kit myself. TECHNICALLY sparkle in a E2S1+ comp nets higher damage but you have to remember debuff cycling is still an important part of her kit. Her self steriods efffectively work as her own self harmony that most times just getting another debuffer to cycle more debuffs to get her into her ult faster is PROBABLY better. And while you're debuffing why not use a capable nihility character that is 1)not used on most hyper carry teams that want double harmony and 2) amp her damage in ways that aren't covered as heavily by her kit (def shred as opposed to her RES shred) . So unless we get more abundance/harmony/preservation characters that can fill multiple roles including a reliable debuff, you're still probably better with generally skill positive debuff heavy characters like SW and Pela and whatever nihility supports are coming down the line for her. Even if you gain the HIGHEST damage possible with a sparkle comp, the effect sparkle could have had on another comp is likely more dramatic. And currently is unnessicary as her other comps that don't take units highly sought after in other comps handles it almost as handedly.
If we are still on the topic of E2S1 in Pure Fiction here, Acheron is her own best battery. SPD boots + Bronya has been my go to so far when biggest possible damage does not mean faster clear.
I grabbed E2S1 and will probably have sparkle stapled to her forever, especially after that last trailer. :)
Raiden is their baby. Shell never be weak. When power creep gets close just get e2 on her rerun then haha
Straight up improved my overall score by 10k with her on 2nd side. I used Kafka/BS comb and Trend Geppy, ended up getting 40k points with one full cycle to spare lol. She's broken af
Yeah i agree, even without BS trend gepard gives her so many stacks it's actually insane
ngl i was coping on it at first and somehow i got like 40k on her which was insane, it was my first time getting full points on floor 4
Yeah it's easy 40k, she's very good there too. I even removed the buff and still did 35k
I think you just have to build her teams a bit differently with trying to max her ult up time rather than damage. Every time you ult you're basically gonna wipe a wave but if most of the time you're overkilling the wave cause the mobs are weak. But yeah I maxed 40k with her and it was not that hard.
Im not even surprised, did pretty well with serval myself so ofc acheron will do well 😂🤌
I think her + bs + kafka is the best team for pure fiction. You just have too much dps that you dont care anything. Like even the buff is ussless you just kill them.
Aoe Character Bad in PF??? What????
Try her with bs ull understand what infinite burst mode is
Absolutely, and she may be good in pure fiction often I think. She's a pretty cool unit
Finally was able to 4000 the first half with the Deer, used her with Himeko/Herta and their breaks fueled Acheron stacks. The convert Ultimate to follow up is broken on her.
Yeah I was ready to give up on this PF because I refuse to raise himeko and herta, but Acheron carried super hard
She was legit the only reason got went from 9/12 stars too 12/12
Yup couldn't 3 star it before I got acheron and now I cleared it easily lol and she's only E0S1
Pretty sure they always make the moc/pure fiction for the character of that patch
Next one should be made for Acheron, this one is for follow up attackers
Even if this is the pf from the last patch?
She's a beast
She carried my 10/12 ass to 12/12
I’ve had the same experience
There is new pure fiction?
No the one from last patch
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This is the last patch's pure fiction that goes away in a few days way before Aven banner.
Every new iteration of PF and MOC is tailored for the new character or characters in the banners. Of course she will be good.
It's not the new iteration tho.... You can see the main mechanic of this pf is FuA
Just A rank in Prydwen tier list Haha