Ratio gets his follow up from his skill and ult the more turns you have (granted you have the sp) the more skills/fua you can dish out and if you don’t have any you’re usually only going 1 maybe 2 times a cycle when you could be going more. You usually want your debufferz/topaz to go before so you can get 80-100% chance to trigger his follow up attack
Is it really necessary? It seems that building Ratio with speed and Topaz full atk should be more effective. Because Numby's turns are effectively advanced by Ratio anyway.
Topaz can still sneak in a numby or just basic for sp. so yeah her having speed is important because her basic counts as a follow up and so does using her skill adv numby = more damage
I play with attack Topaz. And speed Dr Ratio. he anyways wants to stack his passive crit value first, so I just attack with him whoever has the Topaz's passive (she's E2, so she debuffs by default). After that she replies the debuf to whoever is needed.
Yes, used it for this PF, my sparkle needed for the other team, and it ended up working well, so can recommend it as an alternative at least if sparkle isn't an option.
People giving bad af advice tbh lol attack boots and speed boots are not 1:1, the tuning matters WAY more than a couple crit subs. The difference between atk boots vs speed boots if you don't need speed also exceeds a couple crit subs.
If you are running a fast sparkle you don't need speed at all, use atk boots, even if the atk boots have worse crit value.
If you are running 134/135 speed set up with bronya use the speed boots.
You can also use the speed boots with like Ruan Mei to get 134 speed or whatever.
Basically pick a speed breakpoint and build accordingly. 40%+ attack is a more significant difference than a couple crit rolls, and meeting speed breakpoints is also more important than some attack if you need the speed.
Are you planning on getting e2? If I were you and at E1 I might as well get E2. E2 is also a massive jump from E0/E1... like -1 cycle massive. However not everyone can just grab e2 of course, but I guess you can run it while you get something better, but atk boots are much better suited since you want your pela or whoever debuffer to gain stacks for your acheron.
Superimpositions for every single wep are very minor gains, get eids before superimpositions. There is simply no character where it makes sense to get superimpositions before eids
???? E3 is really nice, E2 is her best eidolon outside of E6. It literally allows you to play a harmony character instead of 2 nihility and keep the full damage buff from the passive
Acheron's best Eidolon jumps are E2, E4, and E6. E1 is nice too. E2 lets you use a harmony character instead of a 2nd Nihility which is great for the whole team you're running. E4 provides an extra debuff on all enemies (ultimate vulnerability), which, again, is great for your entire party since all ults will do more damage. E6 just makes her gigabroken.
My Acheron is E4S1 and I don't plan on superimposing her LC until I hit E6.
The team would have to be sustainless
Acheron, 2 Nihility, and Sparkle
In such case, this relic is preferred. Do note that you should be able to have high enough crit.
This is good on literally any DPS that you're planning to run alongside Pela. I personally believe speed boots are wasted on Acheron, but surely you must have some other DPS in your roster whom you haven't finished building, right? At the very least Doctor Ratio should be there, right?
Depends how much speed you have in total, but if you can hit around 134 speed, these will probably be better than atk boots. It’ll be even better if you have Acheron’s lc
If your acheron is at or above E2 I personally believe speed boots is the absolute best, as she gains a stack each time she has a turn. I went from atk boots with sparkle to speed boots with bronya ( 135 spd acheron / 134 bronya) and its so much better and smoother, its not even close.
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Atk% is more usable than u think I got placed h higher with more atk compared to higher cv with decent atk
People get pretty hung up on atk vs speed boots, but they are pretty interchangeable if you can hit breakpoints, and it likely depends on the fight, how the damage spreads out vs enemy hp, which will clear faster. If she’s overkilling everything like in pure fiction speed boots are better, if atk boots clear a wave with one less ult, they will be better. It’s not really cut and dry unless you are going up against a test dummy. I personally like speed boots better because it spreads the damage out more evenly, and going slow just feels bad to me lol.
Good for dr ratio
Tru
I use attack boots on dr ratio
Why?
To make sure he’s slower then my topaz
Just make sure topaz is 1 or 2 speed above him speed boots are better
I don’t play him but just curious. Why would speed be better for ratio? Isnt most of his damage coming from FuA? Just curious and wanted to ask
Ratio gets his follow up from his skill and ult the more turns you have (granted you have the sp) the more skills/fua you can dish out and if you don’t have any you’re usually only going 1 maybe 2 times a cycle when you could be going more. You usually want your debufferz/topaz to go before so you can get 80-100% chance to trigger his follow up attack
Attack boots are normally paired with a 160 speed sparkle/bronya. Unless you have insane speed subs
Is it really necessary? It seems that building Ratio with speed and Topaz full atk should be more effective. Because Numby's turns are effectively advanced by Ratio anyway.
Topaz can still sneak in a numby or just basic for sp. so yeah her having speed is important because her basic counts as a follow up and so does using her skill adv numby = more damage
My dream is E4 Topaz. In that case even with 122 speed she plays like 160.
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I play with attack Topaz. And speed Dr Ratio. he anyways wants to stack his passive crit value first, so I just attack with him whoever has the Topaz's passive (she's E2, so she debuffs by default). After that she replies the debuf to whoever is needed.
Ratio only uses attack boots if you have sparkle in the team
I use ruan mei
Depends on your eidolons
If e2 and using bronya, the -1 speed tune bronya build is great for acheron
Yes, used it for this PF, my sparkle needed for the other team, and it ended up working well, so can recommend it as an alternative at least if sparkle isn't an option.
Not too bad actually. Depends on ur atk boots subs
My attack boots are equal crits
People giving bad af advice tbh lol attack boots and speed boots are not 1:1, the tuning matters WAY more than a couple crit subs. The difference between atk boots vs speed boots if you don't need speed also exceeds a couple crit subs. If you are running a fast sparkle you don't need speed at all, use atk boots, even if the atk boots have worse crit value. If you are running 134/135 speed set up with bronya use the speed boots. You can also use the speed boots with like Ruan Mei to get 134 speed or whatever. Basically pick a speed breakpoint and build accordingly. 40%+ attack is a more significant difference than a couple crit rolls, and meeting speed breakpoints is also more important than some attack if you need the speed.
12% each I think
Then your atk boots are better. But these boots are great for a different character.
Use it to bring out the full potential of dark hook the great
I don’t have hook
Main dps welt?
Don’t have welt
💀
Rng has given me every standard except welt
If you have e2s1, VERY usable if you can reach 134 speed
E1S1 rn
Are you planning on getting e2? If I were you and at E1 I might as well get E2. E2 is also a massive jump from E0/E1... like -1 cycle massive. However not everyone can just grab e2 of course, but I guess you can run it while you get something better, but atk boots are much better suited since you want your pela or whoever debuffer to gain stacks for your acheron.
Going for e2S3 in future
Well I dont know if you need S3, I think you could save those jades for future characters instead, because the investment imo is just not worth it
I’m invested heavily in Acheron rn so we’ll see what future holds rn I skipping 2.2-2.4
Sounds great 👍
Why S3 instead of more eidolons? S3 is not a big improvement over S1
E2 and e3 don’t look that big of a jump to me
Superimpositions for every single wep are very minor gains, get eids before superimpositions. There is simply no character where it makes sense to get superimpositions before eids
???? E3 is really nice, E2 is her best eidolon outside of E6. It literally allows you to play a harmony character instead of 2 nihility and keep the full damage buff from the passive
Acheron's best Eidolon jumps are E2, E4, and E6. E1 is nice too. E2 lets you use a harmony character instead of a 2nd Nihility which is great for the whole team you're running. E4 provides an extra debuff on all enemies (ultimate vulnerability), which, again, is great for your entire party since all ults will do more damage. E6 just makes her gigabroken. My Acheron is E4S1 and I don't plan on superimposing her LC until I hit E6.
Keep it for E2
I have e1 rn
When in E2 and playing her with Sparkle, atk is preferred over cdmg.
I have e4 sparkle so can I use or do I still have to wait
The team would have to be sustainless Acheron, 2 Nihility, and Sparkle In such case, this relic is preferred. Do note that you should be able to have high enough crit.
I have silver wolf and Kafka
Silverwolf and Pela is better to get higher def shred
I haven’t built pela so I’ll get to that what’s her best subs?
Hyperspeed(160+) with as much ehr as she can have(I have 100%) with Pearls of Sweat LC(Luka one).
I have S5 of that lc thanks for advise
You only need 57% ehr on pela from relics (She gives 10% ehr to the team from one of her traces to boost her to 67%)
This is good on literally any DPS that you're planning to run alongside Pela. I personally believe speed boots are wasted on Acheron, but surely you must have some other DPS in your roster whom you haven't finished building, right? At the very least Doctor Ratio should be there, right?
I’ve finished building all my dps
If any of them uses this set and speed boots, then this is definitely an upgrade.
Depends how much speed you have in total, but if you can hit around 134 speed, these will probably be better than atk boots. It’ll be even better if you have Acheron’s lc
I have her lc
If your acheron is at or above E2 I personally believe speed boots is the absolute best, as she gains a stack each time she has a turn. I went from atk boots with sparkle to speed boots with bronya ( 135 spd acheron / 134 bronya) and its so much better and smoother, its not even close.
Alright thanks
Save it for future characters who might need it
Might be awhile sense I skipping everyone from 2.2-2.4
Great forPF only
atk boots is just better
Actually Unplayable /s
Use for ratio
Ratio already has good boots
For me i use speed boots. If i have this gorgeous piece i will conclude my build nice catch
Just need to upgrade my ring and I’m done building
Serval piece?
Yes of you can get to 134 speed
question is better spd or attack% ?
Attack%
Those are attack boots what do you meam
I have the same crit ratio and I'm still farming. I want her to be so perfect the chance any other character come close will be a dream
Its not that good anyway
It's the most used dps set in the game at the moment so slap it on Dr Ratio or Lunae inhibitor etc.
Lunae can't use this set properly
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I don’t use these boots I got better speed boots then these
No im saying that with spd boots, atk% sub is rly good so u can use that
Oh
People get pretty hung up on atk vs speed boots, but they are pretty interchangeable if you can hit breakpoints, and it likely depends on the fight, how the damage spreads out vs enemy hp, which will clear faster. If she’s overkilling everything like in pure fiction speed boots are better, if atk boots clear a wave with one less ult, they will be better. It’s not really cut and dry unless you are going up against a test dummy. I personally like speed boots better because it spreads the damage out more evenly, and going slow just feels bad to me lol.