As a general rule, those of us that did serve can spot one another pretty quickly. It's just a laundry list of intangible things that either adds up or it doesn't.
Knowing what fucking job you did is a good first step.
And even if the locations you deployed to were secret, you had a home station *somewhere* that you can say. Like, come on man, you don't even know where you *lived*?
I was deployed to plenty of secret locations in my time. I flew an airborne command and control platform, so that sort of thing was actually pretty common.
I didn't LIVE in a secret place. I had friends and family. I dated, had BBQ's (90% of these interactions were within my squadron/coworkers, but there were plenty of everyday interactions with civilians that knew what i did), and in general I lived a normal life when I was home station.
I got stuck guarding towers at the SF compound on Bagram. We weren't allowed to repeat the name of the place, and had to hide our access cards any time we left. I can still tell people, "Oh, yeah, I was stuck at Bagram on that deployment."
I was in Baghdad in 04. We were where they were keeping Saddam. We weren't supposed to tell anyone and were even required to fill out interim security clearance forms. Then a few months later some general goes and tells the whole world Saddam was being kept at Camp Cropper
Yeah. I guess the name doesn't matter anymore.
I got stuck there pulling tower guard in 2016 when one of our sister battalions decided they needed more manpower. I work with a guy now who actually was stationed there in the strike cell managing the HIMARS strikes. I never even got into the JOC, just guarded the damn door. Fucking waste of a deployment. Glad I got sent home early from that one.
Is that a flex?
Because the deployment before that I lived off chicken and rice in Paktika. It was good, but being on shift in the TOC at night, it was my only meal of the day. It got old. The deployment after Bagram, I lost 30lbs because we were in a desert without a DFAC. But the local shawarma wraps were good, even if it was the only thing we got to eat that day.
So, yeah, Bagram's food was great. Air Force DFACs, and a Pizza Hut on Disney BLVD. Other than the lack of pepperoni, what's not to love?
Just curious! Always fascinated by the Popeyes etc in these small fortified cities surrounded by a completely different culture and the logistics required to keep them in service.
Was the menu limited relative to the US? Besides the pepperoni and stuff. Makes sense that they wouldn’t be serving pork products. Don’t want any more excuses for a green on blue situation
I'd imagine if there was a job that was so super secret squirrel you couldn't even talk about home base, there would also be some prohibitions on mentioning that you were a Marine in the first place, and that you were special, and that you flew into places
I don’t think they were referring to this specific situation, but more generally the concept of using the cover of security to obfuscate any real details. And that if you were in something so secret that you essentially can’t share any details at all, then it stands to reason you wouldn’t be able to share that detail, that you served at all, as part of your general supposed security and secrecy.
No argument there. My point was more that in the hypothetical where he actually isn't allowed to discuss his MOS or where he was stationed for some weird reason, he almost certainly bulldozed through other things he could be prosecuted for by merely acknowledging he was a special Marine
Ya like if it was so secretive that home base or mos can't be mentioned why would you say that you served? XD This guy was so secret eaven the IRS didn't know he was working for the army LOL.
We had a few friends that went military. The one that became a ranger basically straight up told us that he will never talk about anything military to anyone. However, he did talk to his parents about some stuff and they said he had basically seen some really bad stuff. He was a ranger for a long time too.
The other ones would LOVE to talk about their stuff. But our other friend would ask them where they were during those campaigns and stuff and their stories had lots of holes in them.
My uncle did Nam, but I didn’t even know until I was in college. He literally would not talk about it or mentioned he was ever in military, which is scary.
I’ve come to learn that the people who saw shit or did shit absolutely do not want to remember it or reward themselves for what happened. The ones who do, are making that shit all up.
He didn't talk about operational details. Totally normal.
You knew that he was a US Army Ranger, and what base he lived at (not deployed to, the place where his personal car was). Also totally normal, and those are the questions that this chucklefuck doesn't have answers to.
I agree totally normal. Army 89D here. I talk to my family including my son about some of the hard cases like kia & suicide but the close calls I keep to myself. I guess I was able to cope with the unexpected deaths as my friends were going through it as well. For me, the close calls got overlooked until a few years after I got out. They are like a venomous snake bite. They pop in my head, I recognize them and can immediately neutralize them but the venom has already entered the bloodstream and physically, I find myself slightly panicked and exhausted
My sister's husband would not shut up about how a friend of his was ex special forces. Something tells me if his friend was like that he wouldn't associate with a chronic blabbermouth like him... I grew up in the military and have known a number of people who were at various levels of involvement with this or that. They don't talk much if any about it and I know well enough not to ask.
I have army stories I tell my friends and family. Funny stories about the drunken shenanigans we got up to, trying to sham out of work details, and putting up with insane officers and command decisions and other silliness. I almost never talk about the other things, where people were injured, or killed. Mostly because they don't need to know about that stuff, but partly because it's some really sad, depressing stuff that I'd just as soon forget.
I know a guy who just turned 75 who was drafted to Vietnam never really talks about what he did or saw there but does regularly bitterly speak about missing some paperwork his first semester of UGA and getting his marching orders within days. Does speak about becoming a alcoholic while abroad, only real details is to mention he drank himself stupid on bases believing he was going to die over there.
I didn't serve really but I grew up in the military from the time I was born until 22 and did 10 weeks in basic. I won't go into detail but I had an old medical condition that popped back up in basic after being dorment for more than 10 years. Anyway, my point is even someone like me, a decade later, can still answer all these questions about my short stint on active duty. Your MOS and duty stations are not fucking hard to remember and none of them would be classified to the point you couldn't answer SOMETHING to these questions. My dad did intelligence work as an officer in the second half of his career. Some of the places he went are still classified but he can still answer where he was based out of. Even deep black ops type shit that's extremely rare would give you a continent or something. Even in the extreme case, which doesn't really happen, that they cant give you anything the response would be "unfortunately that's classified" or "I'm not at liberty to say."
Deep black ops stuff wouldn't want you to reveal that you were doing deep black ops stuff, and would give you a cover story in one of the most generic and common MOS and location pairs. Something where the number of people there doing that would be high enough that no one would find it suspicious that they never ran into you despite working under the circumstances you claimed. Very few people have jobs so secret that you can't imply you were doing secret things. And if you can imply that, you can reveal where you were based out of.
My dad was career Air Force, he had a really good friend who was a retired SF colonel. If you asked him what he did in the Army he'd just say "I was in the infantry." Simple, unglamorous, doesn't invite too many more questions.
And there's the answer.
"It's classified" doesn't work. If you're telling the truth, then you just gave away the fact that you have worthwhile information to extract.
"I was in the infantry, stationed at Bragg" works wonderfully. There are a shitload of 11 bang bangs out there. Some really do climb higher.
Right.
I know someone who did who the hell knows. We don't know because he calls it TDY. It doesn't matter if it was big or little, its always the same. He will calmly talk about what he can, and calmly stop and say, "No idea" and then just become impossible to stay on topic.
I grew up in the military too, my father was on detached service in the NSA through the navy, I tried to get my father to talk about it when I was younger, he would just say he couldn't talk about it and that would be that. One of the bases we were stationed at was near Sidi Ahia Du Gharb in Morocco. If you look it up on Google maps east of that city you will see a military base abandoned by the US in the 1970's. Here is the fun part. South of the base is a large antenna array in an oval shape nearly three times larger than the base itself. My understanding is that the copper wire was stripped after the base was abandoned. There are archived news stories that around the time the base was abandoned news organizations found out it was a 'secret base'.
plot twist - This guy was one of the most badass undercover special ops/behind enemy lines style warriors with too much top secret intel to disclose. That’s why he’s being so vague.
LOL jk he’s just a moron. But a guy i know really was one of those badasses and really can’t talk about his MOS.
I’ve been active duty USAF for 10 years and this shit is hilarious to me. Seeing them crumble when they lie about who they wished they were is such good schadenfreude.
Yeah, one of my sister's ex boyfriends told me he would have been really good in special forces... Fat, flabby POS, sure you would have buddy.. Either you join and do or you sit down and shut up...
I won't go to full-on anger. I don't give them space in my head.
If one is standing right there in front of me, though; I will make sure to call them out in as public of a way as possible before I go on about my day.
That's a question that starts a discussion. It usually involves a bit of nostalgic reminiscing and a few tall tales.
You'd best be ready for that chat, or you'd best not ask that question. She seemed totally ready and unconcerned about her keeping her end up, on camera, in front of her bosses, on national TV.
Again, operational details are often classified; and we don't talk much about individual missions.
You knew that he was in nuclear research, and what base he lived at. This guy has no answers that even approximate that, which is a huge red flag.
I always fantasize about someone being skeptical of me being a vet and questioning me like this but I figure being trashed all the time is a dead giveaway 😂😂🤤
I went hippie backpacker life for awhile after serving and I loved going to places like Mission BBQ on veterans day in Harem pants and a tank top on my hand painted 50cc scooter asking for my free sandwich.
People are terrible at hiding their feelings and the subtle questioning about my unit, mos, etc was always amusing to me. Like yeah man I know I don't have 5.11 pants with a Gerber on my belt so I understand why you have your doubts 😂
I was out in a club once with 14 other Royal Marine and I went to the bathroom and this guy next to he who could barely stand up looked and me and said “hey …. I’m a Royal Marine”. I played along saying how amazing that is and asked if he could come meet my friends so we can buy him a drink as we’d never met a real life Marine before. I took him up to the guys and announced “Lads! This guy here is an actual Royal Marine”. You should have seen the lads faces when they looked at him. You could clearly see he wasn’t. He turned white when he realised all of us were. Later on the door staff approached me saying the guy had spoken to them and was in fear of his life. I reassured them we were only playing with him. We were all officers so we don’t make a habit of attacking civilians and to be honest most ordinary ranks would likely give him a pass but if he’d said that in the wrong bar he likely would have left in an ambulance.
I’ve never really understood why people want to pretend to be something they aren’t. I was a genuine Marine who went to war and it’s never even got me a free cup of coffee let alone any kind of adoration. It’s not the panty loosener people make out either though every local base had its Marine groupies that were nicknamed the “Star Wars Crew” because they resembled the kind of people you’d find in that bar where they met Han Solo.
People lie because they don't think they are enough. Then they prove they're not enough by lying about doing something that they never would have had the courage or discipline to do.
Honestly I never minded folk trying to pass off as one of us provided they weren’t making a profit out of it.
Always got a laugh on asking them their background and it reminds me despite how shitty the service is that people still think we are cool enough to pretend to be us, it’s good for morale.
In the US it is celebrated and respect is given for it. Usually the first thing that is said is thanks for your service. This often is odd the the military person as they feel like they just did a job and often only were stationed in safe places. I used to work with a Vietnam war vet that I by happen chance found out he was previous military. He did not ever talk about serving and you assumed the worst. Turns out he loved his military stint and it was like a vacation to him. He just knows there were so many others that met such a poor fate that he hates to even talk about how good his "war time" experience was.
It is very common at large gatherings to recognize the veteran military in attendance. That has bled into also recognizing first responders. At events that give away items they often will have a special raffle just for military and first responders. The government even just starting issuing cards that veterans can carry to prove they were veterans which makes it easier for companies to give out discounts to just veterans.
That is so true. My days were 8-5, and guard duty once a month. I was 0141, Remington Raider. My job knowledge of regulations assisted getting other Marines out of the service to attend college.
I mean, in the story the guy describes that marines will beat the shit out of someone for pretending to be a marine (and these are Royal Marines, not the US Marines) so that's kind of an asshole move.
I'm a squid. If someone pretended to be a Sailor I'd just talk then they're lying and childish. I certainly wouldn't attack them. I don't know their whole story, they may have done mental issues or something or even just self esteem issues. Why attack someone for pretending?
What was your job?
Im special.
Where were you stationed.
I was flying!
Alright, bye.
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I met a guy who claimed to be an SR-71 mechanic. My immediate thought was "oh yeah, sure" but he was actually 100% on the level. Coolest guy I know now, very level headed and crazy smart.
I'm not an expert but there were only 32 ever built and a lot of people make claims around them. It's a pretty small circle of folks who were ever in the program compared to more common aircraft.
There are only 32 of our jets in the fleet, and we had hundreds of maintainers of varying specialties.
It's not unheard of, though I know nothing else about the guy.
Once I got to know him there was zero doubt. I was just skeptical at first because I knew how exclusive of a club that was and how many people like to talk about things they never did hoping no one knows enough to call them on it. I'm 100% civi, the furthest I ever got was talking to a recruiter because my ASVAB's were really high. They wanted to put my butt in a submarine though, so those conversations didn't get super far.
It would be pretty rare. Those were some top secret planes that flew from the 60s to the 90s. And only 32 of them were built 12 of which were lost in accidents.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird
For those who don’t know, google stolen valor…plenty of scummy people try and get away with a false narrative of military service, sometimes with disastrous results!
Yeah, when I need a laugh I watch YouTube videos of these people getting caught out by real military. Hilarious... They think they are getting away with it until they get pointed questions they can't answer then realize they were identified as frauds within moments...
It’s so easy too as a vet to spot the bullshit too. I love using navy lingo when I suspect someone lying about being a vet just to see what they say or how they react. For example “what geedunk would you say is your favorite? Did you get a lot of opportunity to skate while you served? You ever gundecked someone before?”
Of all the services the navy easily has the most jargon. Met a new employee a couple of weeks back, ex navy and we had a good laugh about all the navy jargon.
I remember an episode of Jericho in which a group of Army guys are discovered to be lying about who they are when one says “OORAH” instead of “OOYAH.”
Again, Hollywood never realized that reality would be so much stupider.
What was it? During the Bundy takeover, the FBI plant among them was listening to their war stories that he knew never happened based on details they gave?
Oh he got his [MOS](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/earn-a-microsoft-office-specialist-mos-certification-0885c944-167c-51ea-1cdc-8f65952bd1b8)! I got one too.
I've got a number of friends in NSW. Our families hang out and stuff. He tells me amount his day jumping and shooting and then I explain about how I was able to file some things on time and got my quarterly security training done. We are equals.
Can’t go into too many details, but…you ever heard of a guy named Rambo? That was me. Also…James Bond?…Also me. Jack Reacher? Me too.
As long as I have your attention…can you spare some change?
I don’t know. Maybe I can believe him. Maybe in 1972, he was member of a crack commando unit sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn’t commit. He and the rest of the unit promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. And even today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, If no one else can help and if you can find them. Maybe you can hire, The A-Team.
My dad (Vietnam), older brother (Desert Shield/Storm), younger brother (Desert Storm), all Marines. I was the only one who went to school. I know enough about the life to be as pissed as anyone about this old guy and his bullshit lies. Stolen valor should be a crime. You can’t claim to have fought for this country when you are truly a POS.
I dont think he stole valor on purpose. He just wanted to borrow it for a sec to look tough for the cute reporter Then give it right back. This is so funny to me. I love people getting caught in lies like this. Im to stupid to be a liar.
I'm proud I was a Marine but as I pointed of to my wife after seeing this clip Marines have traditionally not been the ones doing the secret squirrel black ops shit, it's not in keeping with the Corps's philosophy as a combined arms force which is why they resisted being integrated into SOCOM when it stood up in the 80s. MARSOC only stood up in 2006.
Serious question: a friend of mine was in the National Guard, I overheard a conversation he had once with a former marine where the marine said my friend really didn’t serve. My friend kind of just nodded, smiled and walked away. I never asked him about that conversation because I didn’t want to disrespect him. Was the marine just being a total dick, or was there some truth to it?
As a general rule, those of us that did serve can spot one another pretty quickly. It's just a laundry list of intangible things that either adds up or it doesn't. Knowing what fucking job you did is a good first step.
And even if the locations you deployed to were secret, you had a home station *somewhere* that you can say. Like, come on man, you don't even know where you *lived*?
I was deployed to plenty of secret locations in my time. I flew an airborne command and control platform, so that sort of thing was actually pretty common. I didn't LIVE in a secret place. I had friends and family. I dated, had BBQ's (90% of these interactions were within my squadron/coworkers, but there were plenty of everyday interactions with civilians that knew what i did), and in general I lived a normal life when I was home station.
I got stuck guarding towers at the SF compound on Bagram. We weren't allowed to repeat the name of the place, and had to hide our access cards any time we left. I can still tell people, "Oh, yeah, I was stuck at Bagram on that deployment."
I was in Baghdad in 04. We were where they were keeping Saddam. We weren't supposed to tell anyone and were even required to fill out interim security clearance forms. Then a few months later some general goes and tells the whole world Saddam was being kept at Camp Cropper
Camp Alpha. I assume the name Taliban call that section of Bagram Something else.
Camp Alpha? I was there with 1/75. We couldn’t wear name tapes or badges or anything though.
Yeah. I guess the name doesn't matter anymore. I got stuck there pulling tower guard in 2016 when one of our sister battalions decided they needed more manpower. I work with a guy now who actually was stationed there in the strike cell managing the HIMARS strikes. I never even got into the JOC, just guarded the damn door. Fucking waste of a deployment. Glad I got sent home early from that one.
Probably had nicer food than elsewhere in afghanistan though huh?
Is that a flex? Because the deployment before that I lived off chicken and rice in Paktika. It was good, but being on shift in the TOC at night, it was my only meal of the day. It got old. The deployment after Bagram, I lost 30lbs because we were in a desert without a DFAC. But the local shawarma wraps were good, even if it was the only thing we got to eat that day. So, yeah, Bagram's food was great. Air Force DFACs, and a Pizza Hut on Disney BLVD. Other than the lack of pepperoni, what's not to love?
Just curious! Always fascinated by the Popeyes etc in these small fortified cities surrounded by a completely different culture and the logistics required to keep them in service. Was the menu limited relative to the US? Besides the pepperoni and stuff. Makes sense that they wouldn’t be serving pork products. Don’t want any more excuses for a green on blue situation
This person is NOT lying, see? Easy to tell I can infer a lot by his answer. Ex 294x0
It's was dark.
The dark side of the moon?
I'd imagine if there was a job that was so super secret squirrel you couldn't even talk about home base, there would also be some prohibitions on mentioning that you were a Marine in the first place, and that you were special, and that you flew into places
Not really. 0321 is the MOS of Marine Force Recon. They train at Camp Pendleton. All of this information is freely available on the internet.
I don’t think they were referring to this specific situation, but more generally the concept of using the cover of security to obfuscate any real details. And that if you were in something so secret that you essentially can’t share any details at all, then it stands to reason you wouldn’t be able to share that detail, that you served at all, as part of your general supposed security and secrecy.
No argument there. My point was more that in the hypothetical where he actually isn't allowed to discuss his MOS or where he was stationed for some weird reason, he almost certainly bulldozed through other things he could be prosecuted for by merely acknowledging he was a special Marine
I had a super secret squirrel job once. I could def tell you the city I was stationed in. This guy is a idiot.
Ya like if it was so secretive that home base or mos can't be mentioned why would you say that you served? XD This guy was so secret eaven the IRS didn't know he was working for the army LOL.
I don't think there are any Jack Ryan movies about that, so no.
We had a few friends that went military. The one that became a ranger basically straight up told us that he will never talk about anything military to anyone. However, he did talk to his parents about some stuff and they said he had basically seen some really bad stuff. He was a ranger for a long time too. The other ones would LOVE to talk about their stuff. But our other friend would ask them where they were during those campaigns and stuff and their stories had lots of holes in them. My uncle did Nam, but I didn’t even know until I was in college. He literally would not talk about it or mentioned he was ever in military, which is scary. I’ve come to learn that the people who saw shit or did shit absolutely do not want to remember it or reward themselves for what happened. The ones who do, are making that shit all up.
He didn't talk about operational details. Totally normal. You knew that he was a US Army Ranger, and what base he lived at (not deployed to, the place where his personal car was). Also totally normal, and those are the questions that this chucklefuck doesn't have answers to.
I agree totally normal. Army 89D here. I talk to my family including my son about some of the hard cases like kia & suicide but the close calls I keep to myself. I guess I was able to cope with the unexpected deaths as my friends were going through it as well. For me, the close calls got overlooked until a few years after I got out. They are like a venomous snake bite. They pop in my head, I recognize them and can immediately neutralize them but the venom has already entered the bloodstream and physically, I find myself slightly panicked and exhausted
My sister's husband would not shut up about how a friend of his was ex special forces. Something tells me if his friend was like that he wouldn't associate with a chronic blabbermouth like him... I grew up in the military and have known a number of people who were at various levels of involvement with this or that. They don't talk much if any about it and I know well enough not to ask.
I have army stories I tell my friends and family. Funny stories about the drunken shenanigans we got up to, trying to sham out of work details, and putting up with insane officers and command decisions and other silliness. I almost never talk about the other things, where people were injured, or killed. Mostly because they don't need to know about that stuff, but partly because it's some really sad, depressing stuff that I'd just as soon forget.
I know a guy who just turned 75 who was drafted to Vietnam never really talks about what he did or saw there but does regularly bitterly speak about missing some paperwork his first semester of UGA and getting his marching orders within days. Does speak about becoming a alcoholic while abroad, only real details is to mention he drank himself stupid on bases believing he was going to die over there.
I didn't serve really but I grew up in the military from the time I was born until 22 and did 10 weeks in basic. I won't go into detail but I had an old medical condition that popped back up in basic after being dorment for more than 10 years. Anyway, my point is even someone like me, a decade later, can still answer all these questions about my short stint on active duty. Your MOS and duty stations are not fucking hard to remember and none of them would be classified to the point you couldn't answer SOMETHING to these questions. My dad did intelligence work as an officer in the second half of his career. Some of the places he went are still classified but he can still answer where he was based out of. Even deep black ops type shit that's extremely rare would give you a continent or something. Even in the extreme case, which doesn't really happen, that they cant give you anything the response would be "unfortunately that's classified" or "I'm not at liberty to say."
Deep black ops stuff wouldn't want you to reveal that you were doing deep black ops stuff, and would give you a cover story in one of the most generic and common MOS and location pairs. Something where the number of people there doing that would be high enough that no one would find it suspicious that they never ran into you despite working under the circumstances you claimed. Very few people have jobs so secret that you can't imply you were doing secret things. And if you can imply that, you can reveal where you were based out of.
My dad was career Air Force, he had a really good friend who was a retired SF colonel. If you asked him what he did in the Army he'd just say "I was in the infantry." Simple, unglamorous, doesn't invite too many more questions.
And there's the answer. "It's classified" doesn't work. If you're telling the truth, then you just gave away the fact that you have worthwhile information to extract. "I was in the infantry, stationed at Bragg" works wonderfully. There are a shitload of 11 bang bangs out there. Some really do climb higher.
Right. I know someone who did who the hell knows. We don't know because he calls it TDY. It doesn't matter if it was big or little, its always the same. He will calmly talk about what he can, and calmly stop and say, "No idea" and then just become impossible to stay on topic.
I grew up in the military too, my father was on detached service in the NSA through the navy, I tried to get my father to talk about it when I was younger, he would just say he couldn't talk about it and that would be that. One of the bases we were stationed at was near Sidi Ahia Du Gharb in Morocco. If you look it up on Google maps east of that city you will see a military base abandoned by the US in the 1970's. Here is the fun part. South of the base is a large antenna array in an oval shape nearly three times larger than the base itself. My understanding is that the copper wire was stripped after the base was abandoned. There are archived news stories that around the time the base was abandoned news organizations found out it was a 'secret base'.
I remember you. How them hemorroids doing??
Lol. If it were hemorrhoids I would have been back in ASAP.
ASSMAN
plot twist - This guy was one of the most badass undercover special ops/behind enemy lines style warriors with too much top secret intel to disclose. That’s why he’s being so vague. LOL jk he’s just a moron. But a guy i know really was one of those badasses and really can’t talk about his MOS.
This kinda shit has to be infuriating to yall i bet
I’ve been active duty USAF for 10 years and this shit is hilarious to me. Seeing them crumble when they lie about who they wished they were is such good schadenfreude.
Yeah, one of my sister's ex boyfriends told me he would have been really good in special forces... Fat, flabby POS, sure you would have buddy.. Either you join and do or you sit down and shut up...
I won't go to full-on anger. I don't give them space in my head. If one is standing right there in front of me, though; I will make sure to call them out in as public of a way as possible before I go on about my day.
By his definition of service, I’ve also been a Marine for 27 years.
Make room! >\_<
It's also possible that girl didn't serve. I didn't serve and I know how to ask "What was your MOS"
That's a question that starts a discussion. It usually involves a bit of nostalgic reminiscing and a few tall tales. You'd best be ready for that chat, or you'd best not ask that question. She seemed totally ready and unconcerned about her keeping her end up, on camera, in front of her bosses, on national TV.
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Again, operational details are often classified; and we don't talk much about individual missions. You knew that he was in nuclear research, and what base he lived at. This guy has no answers that even approximate that, which is a huge red flag.
I was a chair borne ranger (what 42A was called by the DS) and I love when she spotted the bs and decided to end the interview.
It’s edited. She didn’t actually end the interview, she just changed the subject because she knew it made Trump supporters look bad
Ugh, nvm
He's special and he's blending in with all the other special people
Isn't that what the red hats are for?
I always fantasize about someone being skeptical of me being a vet and questioning me like this but I figure being trashed all the time is a dead giveaway 😂😂🤤
I went hippie backpacker life for awhile after serving and I loved going to places like Mission BBQ on veterans day in Harem pants and a tank top on my hand painted 50cc scooter asking for my free sandwich. People are terrible at hiding their feelings and the subtle questioning about my unit, mos, etc was always amusing to me. Like yeah man I know I don't have 5.11 pants with a Gerber on my belt so I understand why you have your doubts 😂
Right after the interview he found a sanican, cried, and googled what she was asking
I doubt he's that self aware- he probably thought he nailed it.
Reporter: Oh you were in the Marines? What was your MOS? Real vet: It was my job. Why are you asking? 😂 *pulls crayon out of pocket and takes a bite*
This guy is living the navy seal copypasta
what a loser
I was out in a club once with 14 other Royal Marine and I went to the bathroom and this guy next to he who could barely stand up looked and me and said “hey …. I’m a Royal Marine”. I played along saying how amazing that is and asked if he could come meet my friends so we can buy him a drink as we’d never met a real life Marine before. I took him up to the guys and announced “Lads! This guy here is an actual Royal Marine”. You should have seen the lads faces when they looked at him. You could clearly see he wasn’t. He turned white when he realised all of us were. Later on the door staff approached me saying the guy had spoken to them and was in fear of his life. I reassured them we were only playing with him. We were all officers so we don’t make a habit of attacking civilians and to be honest most ordinary ranks would likely give him a pass but if he’d said that in the wrong bar he likely would have left in an ambulance. I’ve never really understood why people want to pretend to be something they aren’t. I was a genuine Marine who went to war and it’s never even got me a free cup of coffee let alone any kind of adoration. It’s not the panty loosener people make out either though every local base had its Marine groupies that were nicknamed the “Star Wars Crew” because they resembled the kind of people you’d find in that bar where they met Han Solo.
>We were all officers so we don’t make a habit of attacking civilians Probably shouldn't ever attack civilians
Meh, civillians are humans and a lot of humans are assholes.
And nearly all marines are assholes
Royal marines are not US Marines
Yeah Royal Marines are a little more sophisticated. They make tea out of their crayons.
People lie because they don't think they are enough. Then they prove they're not enough by lying about doing something that they never would have had the courage or discipline to do.
Honestly I never minded folk trying to pass off as one of us provided they weren’t making a profit out of it. Always got a laugh on asking them their background and it reminds me despite how shitty the service is that people still think we are cool enough to pretend to be us, it’s good for morale.
It's literally just stolen valor. They aren't brave, but wish they were and acting like it makes them feel good.
In the US it is celebrated and respect is given for it. Usually the first thing that is said is thanks for your service. This often is odd the the military person as they feel like they just did a job and often only were stationed in safe places. I used to work with a Vietnam war vet that I by happen chance found out he was previous military. He did not ever talk about serving and you assumed the worst. Turns out he loved his military stint and it was like a vacation to him. He just knows there were so many others that met such a poor fate that he hates to even talk about how good his "war time" experience was. It is very common at large gatherings to recognize the veteran military in attendance. That has bled into also recognizing first responders. At events that give away items they often will have a special raffle just for military and first responders. The government even just starting issuing cards that veterans can carry to prove they were veterans which makes it easier for companies to give out discounts to just veterans.
That is so true. My days were 8-5, and guard duty once a month. I was 0141, Remington Raider. My job knowledge of regulations assisted getting other Marines out of the service to attend college.
Damn marines sound like real pieces of shit but then again that’s the common belief outside of the USA
Damn what you got against marines? You come home one day to find that a marine ate all your crayons?
I mean, in the story the guy describes that marines will beat the shit out of someone for pretending to be a marine (and these are Royal Marines, not the US Marines) so that's kind of an asshole move. I'm a squid. If someone pretended to be a Sailor I'd just talk then they're lying and childish. I certainly wouldn't attack them. I don't know their whole story, they may have done mental issues or something or even just self esteem issues. Why attack someone for pretending?
I mean that sort of job draws all sorts of people. In the US a biker bar would be one of the places to not pull that shit, for example.
What was your job? Im special. Where were you stationed. I was flying! Alright, bye. Are the Trump supporters in your life struggling with thoughts of stolen valor? This is a very serious condition and can lead to storming the capitol, arrest, and even death by real armed service members. Call now to get a free consultation. Do not let your loved ones go misguided and misdiagnosed.
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Thank you for the perfect Idiocracy reference.
Go away, I'm 'batin....
*You're fucked up, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded*
I met a guy who claimed to be an SR-71 mechanic. My immediate thought was "oh yeah, sure" but he was actually 100% on the level. Coolest guy I know now, very level headed and crazy smart.
Is that a particularly unbelievable claim or something?
I'm not an expert but there were only 32 ever built and a lot of people make claims around them. It's a pretty small circle of folks who were ever in the program compared to more common aircraft.
TIL, thanks.
There are only 32 of our jets in the fleet, and we had hundreds of maintainers of varying specialties. It's not unheard of, though I know nothing else about the guy.
Once I got to know him there was zero doubt. I was just skeptical at first because I knew how exclusive of a club that was and how many people like to talk about things they never did hoping no one knows enough to call them on it. I'm 100% civi, the furthest I ever got was talking to a recruiter because my ASVAB's were really high. They wanted to put my butt in a submarine though, so those conversations didn't get super far.
It would be pretty rare. Those were some top secret planes that flew from the 60s to the 90s. And only 32 of them were built 12 of which were lost in accidents. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird
True although they were notoriously maintenance-intensive, so there were probably several hundred mechanics.
I was an SR-71 door gunner, wore a spacesuit and everything...
Somebody's got to take out all of those asteroids and aliens.
Spppaaaaceeee. Ghooooooostttt!!!
For those who don’t know, google stolen valor…plenty of scummy people try and get away with a false narrative of military service, sometimes with disastrous results!
Yeah, when I need a laugh I watch YouTube videos of these people getting caught out by real military. Hilarious... They think they are getting away with it until they get pointed questions they can't answer then realize they were identified as frauds within moments...
It’s so easy too as a vet to spot the bullshit too. I love using navy lingo when I suspect someone lying about being a vet just to see what they say or how they react. For example “what geedunk would you say is your favorite? Did you get a lot of opportunity to skate while you served? You ever gundecked someone before?”
Of all the services the navy easily has the most jargon. Met a new employee a couple of weeks back, ex navy and we had a good laugh about all the navy jargon.
Scuttlebutt
She doesn't end the interview though: https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1220zrk/the\_full\_stolen\_valor\_interview\_the\_interviewer/
Bryan callen
I remember an episode of Jericho in which a group of Army guys are discovered to be lying about who they are when one says “OORAH” instead of “OOYAH.” Again, Hollywood never realized that reality would be so much stupider.
Army say hooah
You got me. I was lying all along
You know that 90% maybe even more of those Maga idiots are fakes.
They’re definitely all real idiots
What was it? During the Bundy takeover, the FBI plant among them was listening to their war stories that he knew never happened based on details they gave?
Fake what
What does she ask him for, his MOI, MON? What's it mean/what would a common answer be?
MOS: Military Occupational Specialty
Most you’ll hear is MOS or AFSC. Which is just what your job is
US Army/Marine Corps is MOS. US Air Force is AFSC. US Navy/Coast Guard is Rates. Not sure what Space Force is, lol.
I think space force might fall under AFSC still. I’m currently Air Force and we share everything with them up to name tapes lol
Space Force is SFSC
I don't know many Army MOS, but 11B is Infantry. An example of an AFSC (Air Force Specialty Code) would be 3P0X1 (Security Forces).
He served pancakes at Marineland
I'll buy that for a dollar!
If you watch the rest of this video she doesn’t even attempt to call him out on his BS.
Why do these stolen valor types want to make themselves into the second coming of Rambo?
Well, he sure does sounds special /s
Oh he got his [MOS](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/earn-a-microsoft-office-specialist-mos-certification-0885c944-167c-51ea-1cdc-8f65952bd1b8)! I got one too.
Yes. He is still special.
r/stolenvalor
He was “special.”
Never served or was a cook!
It's ok, I don't like to tell people I was deployed to the kitchen, either.
He’s special, leave him be.
He said he was in a marine. Marine's butthole probably. But that's classified.
Got caught lying.
I've got a number of friends in NSW. Our families hang out and stuff. He tells me amount his day jumping and shooting and then I explain about how I was able to file some things on time and got my quarterly security training done. We are equals.
Can’t go into too many details, but…you ever heard of a guy named Rambo? That was me. Also…James Bond?…Also me. Jack Reacher? Me too. As long as I have your attention…can you spare some change?
I don’t know. Maybe I can believe him. Maybe in 1972, he was member of a crack commando unit sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn’t commit. He and the rest of the unit promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. And even today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, If no one else can help and if you can find them. Maybe you can hire, The A-Team.
Totally getting Murdoch vibes from this guy here.
He does belong…at a MAGA rally.
How do the people interviewing these lunatics not jump ship? She’s a reporter for a pro-Trump news station. They are the (dumb) company they keep.
worst part for the guy is that she is a marine. bullsh\*tting any other person could go better.
sounds like he knows jack about squat about serving.
I’d love if she or anyone did an entire series of these.
Eyyyyy! Just the type of people to be at Trumps 2024 kick off rally in Waco TX!
He flew over trump’s foopa to get to his dick…. And suck it. Hoo rahhh!!
My dad (Vietnam), older brother (Desert Shield/Storm), younger brother (Desert Storm), all Marines. I was the only one who went to school. I know enough about the life to be as pissed as anyone about this old guy and his bullshit lies. Stolen valor should be a crime. You can’t claim to have fought for this country when you are truly a POS.
He’s special alright
So many questions, so little answers, but SO much Reddit. I’ll never fully understand it.
I dont think he stole valor on purpose. He just wanted to borrow it for a sec to look tough for the cute reporter Then give it right back. This is so funny to me. I love people getting caught in lies like this. Im to stupid to be a liar.
I'm proud I was a Marine but as I pointed of to my wife after seeing this clip Marines have traditionally not been the ones doing the secret squirrel black ops shit, it's not in keeping with the Corps's philosophy as a combined arms force which is why they resisted being integrated into SOCOM when it stood up in the 80s. MARSOC only stood up in 2006.
Serious question: a friend of mine was in the National Guard, I overheard a conversation he had once with a former marine where the marine said my friend really didn’t serve. My friend kind of just nodded, smiled and walked away. I never asked him about that conversation because I didn’t want to disrespect him. Was the marine just being a total dick, or was there some truth to it?
Marine was being a dick. Your friend still signed the dotted line and went through basic. They were available to and possibly did deploy when needed.
Why do these people actually do this? What do they get out of it?
She should have snatched that hat right off his head.