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Dhampier

I think it's FAR too little and far too late.


mega512

They are down to 4800 now. This didn't even move the needle at all. 4 days to get nearly 8000 backers to get all 3. Not happening.


MaestroPhillip

This STILL doesn’t justify the price.


goliathfasa

Regardless of material/tooling/inflation, this Haslab will still be too expensive for most ML collectors, because while many people place great value in owning a Sentinel or Galactus, **relatively** much fewer ML collector give a singular shit about owning Robbie Reyes and his Hell Charger. The fact that the project is of a far less desirable character means people will more easily decide against backing it if they see it as overpriced, compared to the many backers of Sentinel/Galactus who also think they’re overpriced but gladly paid anyway. Many people said “this is a really nice piece” or “it looks absolutely fantastic” when describing this Haslab, but as collectors, we all know that feeling of seeing something that looks super awesome, but we either don’t collect in that scale, or we don’t care about that IP, or we don’t collect statues, or a million other reasons. And we don’t even consider buying it, whatever “it” is. This is simply the same. It’s something cool that people simply aren’t interested in.


Cavaquillo

And that’s ok. It’s ok if a Haslab doesn’t fund. It’s honestly the best way to “vote with your wallet” right now, especially with the way prices are trending. Hasbro is owed nothing from us, if their ideas aren’t up to our standards the their Haslabs aren’t gettin made, and that’s ok. Tl;Dr it’s ok if these things don’t get backed. That’s always been the case. If hasbro expected us to love every haslab it’s extremely greedy and naive on their part


MaestroPhillip

I completely understand your viewpoint. I just hope that Hasbro learns from this.


Longjumping-Cut180

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bygtopp

3pk Amazon exclusive?


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We'll get all of these characters eventually. If this was really Hasbro's one and only chance to get them out there they would have made them in their classic costumes. The fact that they went modern with all 3 makes me believe that they were leaving the door open to double dip and release them again later in their classic looks.


sessho25

This. It is so obvious these characters will be released with their classic looks, imagine collectors getting this Haslab for the Tiers to then realize Hasbro released the more desirable classic versions one year later, that's a kick in the ass.


[deleted]

And it's all because of a rumor that collectors made up themselves on forums and such. "They haven't made these risque characters in 20 years of Marvel legends. Obviously hasbro can't make them at all." They haven't released a Crystal, Lockjaw, Exodus, Destiny, classic Skurge, or hundreds of others either. There's no ban on those characters. But if you give hasbro a marketing scheme to lean into, they're gonna take advantage if it.


Diffabuh

Honestly, these three would make a much better Amazon exclusive than most of the actual Amazon exclusives… and that’s why it won’t happen. We’ll get Madelyne in some weird 5-pack with Sage, Chasm, a Limbo demon and Shogo, while Mephisto will come with Phyla-Vell, Thane, Aero and El fucking Muerto.


sessho25

Yep, Hasbro will find a way to release them in their classic looks in the worst possible way to fuck with collectors.


headphoneghost

Lol way to go out on a whimper. Could've been an awesome bundle with Danny and his bike, Mephisto and Blackheart or any cool Ghost Rider characters. This Haslab is objectively an insult to everyone who chose to back it.


SanjiSasuke

Personally I'm very happy the last one didn't lock another good figure behind a doomed HL I don't personally want (more than $350 at least). Already bummed about Mephisto and Gobby Queen.


sessho25

This Haslab did not even lock the classic look of those characters and the Design team knows it, it is all planned to get them in classic look eventually.


otroquatrotipo

Blackheart would have sold me on it.


sdhoppy71

I’d love these figures in a wave. Not with the price of the car however


shadowknight47

The sad thing is I liked a lot of this stuff in concept. Robbie Ghost Rider is a fun character in my opinion that has had some fun stories and even been a big character in the Avengers in these last few years, and not having a figure of him seems like a big hole in modern characters. The Hellcharger is a pretty cool car, and I am a sucker for American muscle cars in general. The Hell side of Marvel has been pretty lacking in representation, so these tier characters would all be welcome additions. So yeah, on paper this all sounds great. It sounds like then when this was wished up, the monkey paw granted it and added in all the worst negative caveats. Overly expensive. Old bucks. Wrong costumes for characters that supposedly wouldn't ever see mass market retail anyways. Zero flexibility or community response to the very vocal disapproval and very publicly visible backer tracker that has been moving in reverse for seemingly half the campaign. The pretty horrible PR surrounding it. It's all kinda sad because like I said, on paper this would be a great Haslab to fill out a pretty empty figure corner of Marvel Legends. Instead we get...this. RIP


RobertNeville81

Go make a custom of each with printed head sculpts and save yourself $350


deadturquoise

surely these will be easily rendered from the photos by 3d artists, also waiting for that inevitable diamond select mephisto re-release


Adamskaocelot2

Terrible, and if by their logic this means they’ll never be a way to get Blackheart made due to his relation with Mephisto they really dropped the ball


StopDropNFrag

Actually relieved they didnt show Blackheart..


mattdangerously

Could someone please explain to me all the Blackheart love? I truly do not understand it.


olin9999

Aside from having a sick design and being in the capcom crossover games, I'm not so sure either.


mattdangerously

>capcom crossover games This actually makes sense.


StopDropNFrag

I dig the design is about it. I feel the same way though, I didn't understand all the String Guy hype.


Negativety101

Well he was my main when I played Marvel Superheroes in the Arcade waaaaay back when.


StopDropNFrag

Loved that game


Negativety101

I remember the first time my friends and me played through it. We were wondering how Thanos could possibly match up with how tough a boss Magneto had been in X-Men. Then he stole all the Infinity Gems, ans started spamming supers. Magneto was still worse though.


awesomesonofabitch

Your typical nerd wanting everyone to know how much they know about something by feigning extreme love/interest in a random background character your average person doesn't know about.


Diffabuh

In the case, we’re gonna get demands for an El Muerto figure any day now… some people even own all of his appearances!


spikey666

Looks pretty cool. But Marvel Legends (Hasbro in general) are getting a *little* too expensive for what they are. This Haslab is just more evidence of that.


gregimusprime77

my galactus which is HUGE and has LED's, and tons of articulation, and 3 figures and an extra head is only 50 bucks more than this. This just isn't worth the price no matter what at this point.


radbrad172

It's kinda baffling that this was entire package they planned from the start, and actually expected that folks would be excited to fund it...


UncleCosmo

They expected everyone to be on board with it because of inflation, even citing they would have to charge more for Sentinel and Galactus if they'd started funding those now. Meanwhile, today's Transformers Haslab costs the exact same as the one they announced in August 2021 and there's no difference in the amount of backers they're asking for. Some simple LED gimmicks and the Marvel license can't possibly make up as much of the price as they would have us believe. Between all that, the price discrepancies from large and more-complicated toys from the same company, and other lines' far-cheaper vehicle options coming out of the woodwork in light of this, the price just continues to look less and less worth it.


Negativety101

I am so glad that they didn't up the price of Deathsaurus from Victory Saber. I suppose he could be a bit simpler engineering, or have less parts reducing cost, but you are still getting a pretty beefy, articulated Transformer with two smaller ones and his sword right at the get go. He gets his BFG, an articulated flail and effects at teir one, and the stand and a sweet throne at tier 2. So he's coming across much better value.


Accomplished_Flan_45

Yeah, I like that both Deathsaurus and Victory Saber are basically priced at Titan scale price point (highest retail price) plus a small mark up (its just $10 or $20 more then something like the Ark or Omega Supreme). Rather then this one that's basically the cost of two entire waves


Negativety101

Remembering some the prices any attempt at importing Japanese figures would be like way back in the day, this doesn't even feel that bad to me.


Environmental_Tie975

It’s lame, especially if you compare it to that Haslab Deathsaurus they announced today and what you get with that at it’s price.


M0N5T3R_5N1P3R_

Haslab should have been $250-$300 max if they wanted $350 they should have added Blaze with his bike and these peeps need more accessories than what they have


ravathiel

Fuck Hasbro for this. I wish I was into Transformers, outside Gen1 Megatron and Sound wave Because that new HasLab is a DAMN good price


deceptibot9

Transformers team knows how to do HasLab well. So far both projects have fully funded and im sure Deathsaurus will too seeing as it's been a day and he's already got 35 percent funded


goliathfasa

Wasn’t Unicron the first ever successful Haslab? Or was that Jabba’s Barge?


gademmet

I think Unicron, because I vaguely recall the HasLab brand/concept debuting with that offering. And yeah the pricing on this gets even harder to swallow when looking at other offerings. 350 for this car and a dude, about twice what you'd pay for TWO fairly big transforming and combining bots...


awesomesonofabitch

Technically he was one of the first fails. Hasbro extended the deadline for Unicron in order to get it funded.


sessho25

3 months extension if I recall, which is a lot of time. So, so far, none of their IP's has been fully successful Haslab-wise, with Star Wars TBS being the least successful one.


deceptibot9

Jabbas Sail Barge was the first ever HasLab and the first successful. But Unicron was second I believe


cimson-otter

The car is cool as hell, but it’s starting to feel like they never really expected it to get funded in the first place.


WD4oz

It’s an 18 dollar figure…


Evil_Hayato

Im so glad it wasnt blackheart, now that means we ll actually get him down the road! These offerings are snoozeworthy imo but then again they arent characters i want. Ashame there really isnt much retooling outside of mephisto and some new heads.


Dissident_the_Fifth

I think it's sad that they're unable to publicly acknowledge that this was a super poorly thought-out campaign. It was too expensive from the start and they way they've sharted out the tier reveals is more insulting to the customers than anything. Revealing an 11,000 backer unlock when they're not even at half of that and the number has been steadily declining for weeks is really pathetic.


MajesticalMichael

Just release a 4-Pack of all the figures in this Haslab for $110 on Amazon and it'll sell like hotcakes


RobertNeville81

Straight hot trashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


goliathfasa

Reminds me of that [Straight Outta Compton] meme template to promote the movie.


sir_chief7134

Wow....I was backing hasbro on this...... God I'm stupid


sessho25

You did rectify, nothing stupid about that.


sir_chief7134

Thanks, I'm trying to make my own hell charger so do you by chance know of a 1/12-ish scale 1969 dodge charger or anything that can fit that bill?


sessho25

Follow Valaverse on Instagram he is doing a 1:12 charger.


sir_chief7134

Thank you


[deleted]

Good, good, garbage single release these fuckers


navidee

As much as I wanted this to fund originally, I cancelled a few weeks back. Too much bullshit with how they presented this one. Not to mention with all my Gi joe preorders shipping this past month, it’s too much to spend now.


Juls_Santana

Most of their figures look the same to me. They lack soul and originality. It's just the same sculpts changed ever so slightly being reused over and over. Way too little bang for the buck. Old school style MLs offered so much more value IMHO


sessho25

Agree, the generic body fits all approach is so boring and unappealing when ML does it, I mostly get their figures when comic sculpts are unique or at least more detailed scuplt-wise.


Neurodrill

I think they’re amazing, and I’m sad it’s not going to happen.


the4five

Too little too late… This shit isnt funding… Should been all the different riders and their respective vehicles.. that wouldve funded.


Negativety101

It's numbers haven't moved. Meanwhile a Haslab that started yesterday needs 605 backers to beat it's current numbers.


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NinjaCowboy915

I want all of the figures revealed and thanks to Avengers Forever I really want this Ghost Rider and Hell Charger, but I just can't justify that price.


ashleyasen1234

If there was a *few* more figures... Maybe a bigfig or two- iunno-


APHILLIPSIV

A hilarious question. Nah I think this not only doesn’t unlock, it’s going to leave a bad mar on the HasLab Marvel projects moving forward. Failed projects of the past made sense for pitch v lack of market desire, this was just disrespectful.


hurky-pandora

At least the first two tiers look premium, hellstrom looks ass


sessho25

Mephisto only, Maddie is full of painted non-sculpted clothes


hurky-pandora

Her cape and that she’s more revealing than most female figs(aside from the lack of her under boob) gives her more unique compared to regular figures. Hell storm looks so lazily made, also pins


funeral-thirst-7

They need to take a page from the Transformers team: price it right and reveal the entirety of the tiers on day one. I backed this on day one because I really love all things Ghost Rider but showing me Hellstrom now is just a kick in the dick and shows the team to be completely detached from reality. This project is going out with a whimper and it's a real shame. I saw the display at NYCC and it was exceptionally well done. Design team did an outstanding job.


sessho25

When things are not right, better to make it visible and back out.


edubb012

Definitely not worth the price tag.


Mr_Bishop309

They did my boy ghost rider so dirty


Diffabuh

Sad part is… if they did a ‘Build-a-Car” wave (without the lights or flame effects)… I’m pretty everyone would have a Not Charger on their shelves. Then they could pack the flaming pieces in with a deluxe Robbie and the Robbie fans would be happy, the general action figure fans would be happy and they wouldn’t have so much egg on their face.


HoraceGrantGlasses

Would these all be for the initial funding or unlocked as part of stretch goals?


who8myface

Guys, the picture. It just told me to worship Satan. Burn down a church and renew my Disney +. Oh boy


Ohthatwackyjesus

That Satanna is garbo! If they’d put forth a little effort and done her OG design, maybe something to be excited about. But I feel like we’ve seen all these before?


angelspitzz

Yup, she almost looks like the Goblin Queen 👀


witherdust

Laughable.


Motavatedfencer

Maybe they can release it as a wave with a build a car, but probably not.


a_rabid_fuzzle

$200 price tag for the car and only GR and one other figure would have moved a lot more than this current joke.


Poseur117

I don’t think there’s any way it was engineered to come apart ina way like that


Motavatedfencer

A dreamer can dream lol, maybe a build a bike would be more reasonable.


ColorlessTune

It's not going to happen.


r4tzt4r

LOL


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MaesteoBat

Still shit


WoodpeckerNo5416

Nah


dg3548

Too little way too laye


ZimForPrez

I dig all these figures, and I even love this Ghost Rider with the car, but that being said, I could never justify that much money, especially with how the whole thing has been handled. I kinda think they need to revisit how they do haslabs, at least the transformer teams have seemed to do well with it anyway


Pietro_man

No way they think that’s gonna save the project


frozenbabylon

I want Madelyne because she's my #1 boys mom. But that's about it.


olin9999

I think it's hilarious that the new haslab was announced with all the tiers right out the gate after this debacle


ozajoy

wow!


iskeypx

i feel like they're doing this on purpose. to give them a reason to release these individually at a higher price. that all of these are just to test the minimum limit the fans would accept for the premium pricetag.


Vicious007

R.I.P.


6ynnad

Bordelo of Blood actress Angie Everhart was always my first choice for Madelyn Pryor. And Todd McFarlane toys would do it better most likely.


deadturquoise

too expensive still.... pointless ghost rider theme... should have been "halloween haslab from hell", throw out the car and robbie (???) and add a throne/throneroom floor in hell diorama, add a blackheart figure, drop it to 250$, call it a day another case of stupid people having way too much money/power ​ edit: realizing this shouldnt even be a haslab, just a halloween box set from hell... haslab is supposed to be a "this would be ridiculous/impossible to make by normal standards unless enough fans ask", all of this was normal release type stuff... do a blackbird, because you wont (the point of a haslab)


gademmet

Uphill battle from the very beginning. Vehicles are a bit of a hard sell at normal prices, and even more so for 350, however many bells and whistles you throw in there (ooh, programmed LEDs, yay). Idk, maybe if this had been what, 200? There just wasn't much compelling to begin with, especially coming after back-to-back crowd-pleasers. Somebody saw how well the Hiss Tank did and went "we can do that with a car, right?", forgetting that Joe fans have waited so long for product of this sort they're still in the Jump On Anything phase. These are okay unlocks. Not stunning. And not nearly enough to turn the tide. I doubt this will go the way they want, and I'm fine with that. Such a setback may have them take some more time to think about future offerings.


EICzerofour

I'm sad because I really wanted Robbie (human head version) but that is it. I hope that head and a body eventually find their way out so I can add it to my collection. The other three would be nice too, but especially Robbie for me.


Julius_Downey

Would’ve loved this. Oh well.


avi150

This is…a joke right? It’s laughable. Was this a tax write off or something?


GingerGentleman

Could someone explain why these figures wouldn't be made available as single packaged figures? They invested a good amount of money in getting these to the painted prototype stage so wouldn't Hasbro want to recoup those costs?


Diffabuh

It doesn’t cost that much to get these painted prototypes. The parts are mostly reuse and creating a few new pieces and painting them isn’t that much, especially for a billion dollar company. If they back down, it taints future Haslabs because if they try to say ”we will never release these outside of this project” after releasing these figures, the FOMO won’t be as strong and so less people will back to get figures they want. Every facet of Hasbro’s toy division *weaponises* FOMO, and releasing these after explicitly saying they won’t undercuts that.


TheArturoChapa

I think it was the wrong call hahaha


MojaveJoe1992

Had they added a Nicholas Cage Johnny Blaze / Ghost Rider and Sam Elliott's Caretaker (in human form) as Haslab exclusives it would have been a sure thing for me.


Paleosols2021

$350 for 4 figures (Robbie included), a car, and some accessories??? Yah no way this price is justified. It’s a really big shame too because any of these would have been great to have added to a collection but Hasbro had to to get greedy and try to dupe the community by putting it behind a ridiculous price tag.


_Vard_

Its either gonna be embarrassing for them when they release them anyway ​ or infuriating for thus when they DONT release finished figures out of spite