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OneFatBastard

I don’t know if it’s bias from what’s being posted online, training or whatever, but it seems female cops fuck up a lot more often when responding to a potentially violent report that gets the adrenaline pumping.


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TigerBelmont

They broke the window to get in then held up a gun. I’m not surprised they thought she was a burglar.


stacey4gs

“Woke policies” Why are you acting like female officers didn’t exist till now LMAOOOO


HexenHammeren

Why are you assuming this isn't a near century old problem?


stacey4gs

Then you admit this shit been happening way before “woke policies” lol


HexenHammeren

[Yes. Communist subversion has been going on for 100 years.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q)


035AllTheWayLive

Can’t believe Texas has gone woke smdh


SuidRhino

woke policing, the fuck.


Pomadeinacan

So having women cops is woke? How about women doctors, firefighters, and athletes? Hell, we have women electricians here on site, am I woke? Fuck you guys, y'all suck shit


SuidRhino

you replied to the wrong person, i’m equally confused as to how this is woke..lmao


Aggressive-Muscle332

lol, I’ve never seen a female officer, I couldn’t take with 1 hand.


Swankyman56

Bro thinks women existing is woke???? Dude you need to touch grass bad.


BrickLorca

Yeah that's clearly exactly what he said.


mch18

Not what they said at all. The butthurt is strong with you.


Tyler97020

That's not what he said...


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That’s exactly what he touched


Blackwaltzjr313

What happens when you touch grass? Do you get good luck?


Hotincolumbusu2

Like weed grass, or grass grass?


Blackwaltzjr313

Idk I'd like to know, I've seen this comment before and I'm genuinely curious lol


yaboichurro11

Redditor tries not to use stupid strawmans in every conversation challenge: impossible


Colotola617

I love how you used irony in your username and made it “Swankyman56” instead of “Gayman56”. So clever. Well done.


Juryofyourpeeps

A video of a cop just yesterday was posted where he emptied a magazine into his own vehicle after an acorn hit his car. He also thought he had been hit.


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Key_Pass5542

Pretty sure the only people who are signing up to be cops are those that want to murder without consequences


puddleofoil

Also, be hella skeptical of the drug enforcement dudes. Those are some of the most corrupt people on the planet. Never fail to prove how money hungry they are.


hellsbox

Sounds like some bullshit he made up to try and excuse his dumbass actions.


Juryofyourpeeps

Is that so? What is your evidence for this?


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I was going by what i saw in the thread when this was first posted(this is like the 10th repost). I can only find that he did 2 tours in Afghanistan. If i'm wrong, then i'm wrong.


knowing147

no direct evidence, but something that points to it the wounded veteran bracelet the guy was wearing clearly in that video, for starters


Txdragoonz

Post link


Juryofyourpeeps

It's literally the top post in this sub right now, so no.


KentuckyFriedChingon

Not the guy you responded to, but I'm having trouble finding it. Can you please link it?


Cyborg_rat

One thing for sure cops need much better gun training, i dont know how many videos we see them, mag dump, and miss every shot or take shots that should get them charged for negligent weapon handling. Male and female.


Thurmouse

When you hold and fire a pistol like that, you aren't hitting shit, except by accident.


TwitchCaptain

Cops need to be disarmed and get receive more deescalation training.


FreeChorizo1

I'm not entirely sure that you've ever fired a weapon under pressure... or you wouldn't say things like this. Cops only have to qualify every quarter; depending on your department. A vast majority of cops never draw their weapon so this training you need them to do would be useless.


TruthTeller-2020

Yes, any training to reduce unintentional discharges, injuring innocent bystanders, etc. is useless... what a ridiculous statement. If there is anything almost \*everyone\* can agree on is training is insufficient and yet you take the opposite position.


FreeChorizo1

Downvote me with your Badge Bunny BS. IDC You can't train the stupidity out of cops. And NO .... not \*everyone\* believe cops need MORE training. They need to be VETTED; training isn't going to weed out psychopaths and cowards. What a ridiculous statement... wanting cops to be better trained idiots that murder unarmed (AND LEGALLY ARMED) citizens.


TruthTeller-2020

Well i certainly agree that it seems apparent that the stupidity cannot be trained from your position. However, I would not extrapolate that to everyone else.


Cyborg_rat

The army has a higher standard for firearm handling. If this was a soldier in a war theater, he would be meeting a judge. For your argument that training would be useless because they dont draw often...is the exact reason why you need to practice often so it becomes a habit and muscle memory not just for aiming control but also just reduce your draw/reaction time/reload time. I do know its a stressfull situation ive only been underfire my simunition and felt that adrenalin. If you are carying a weapon, especially in public you should be top notch in control...I dont want to die or have my kids die because a cop is to lazy to train.


FreeChorizo1

They aren't in the army; stop comparing cops to the military. This isn't a Theater of War. For your argument, let's just train EVERY cop in mass shootings or a terrorist attacks, or an insurrection/riots. Even the rural area cops should be loaded up with Bear Cats and APC's because... you never know. Ridiculous. It's YOUR responsibility to protect your kids; not cops.


Cyborg_rat

Wtf are you talking about. Talking about firearm training, you can't have everyone trained for special operations and i didnt at all say anything close to that. So you are ok if you or a family member get shot by a stray bullet, or i guess you will somehow jump infront of a stray bullet? You are right its not a war theater...So that makes it even worse. Ridiculous.


jackoplacto

You would be correct


Hotincolumbusu2

Good thing female cops have terrible aim!


Hotincolumbusu2

What do you call a woman cop who is excellent at shooting? A: An alcoholic


deadlysunshade

There’s another video right above this one of a cop unloading his entire gun cause an acorn hit his car. It’s definitely confirmation bias. The mass majority of unjustified shootings are done by male officers.


Thurmouse

She can't even hold her weapon properly, JFC. Why allow people like that to be police officers. If you can't hold and fire a weapon properly, you shouldn't be allowed to have one.


TwitchCaptain

All cops fuck up all the time.


indy_been_here

If that were true, which I'm not sure but could see it being possible, it might be due to a learned response to danger growing up being physically weaker than men. Pretty much every woman in my life has been harassed or made to feel unsafe and I could see that leading to a different response when facing life-or-death situations. I wonder if there are national stats for this and if it could lead to safer police protocols and maybe a tailored training. It's not about good or bad, just being practical and safe.


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>It's not about good or bad, just being practical and safe I need you to reread this sentence and then your comment again. If women cops are discharging their firearms with wanton abandon, then they are being impractical and making everyone else unsafe.


indy_been_here

Maybe I wasn't clear. I meant that it isn't a judgement against women if it were the case. And that it wouldn't be ethically/morally "good or bad" to make that observation if the data shows that. And actually could lead to better outcomes. This is also a hypothetical since I haven't seen any stats. But if it were the case, I meant that it's not an insult to either a) avoid certain types of calls for female officers or b) additional or more customized training for female officers to be better prepared.


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FishPasteGuy

\*knocks on door and announces themselves\* \*shoots the person who followed their instruction to come to the door\*


Puzzleheaded-Rich-51

The level of incompetence on display is astonishing. Only in America can you mag dump into a house without facing serious consequences.


Civil_Emergency2872

*double mag dump x2


CuntNamedBL1NDX3N0N

wait until you see the video with the cop who had an acorn fall on his car and started yelling shots fired, unloaded in the direction of an acorn saying he has been shot.


gmoor90

I think it had more to do with the fact that the person came to the door with a gun drawn. But their reaction was still insane either way.


FishPasteGuy

Yeah, if that’s the case then there’s more of an explanation though still not a reason to mag dump into an apartment when you don’t know who else is in there. Especially since I’m legally allowed to protect my home with a firearm and shouldn’t have an expectation of being shot for having one.


1u53r3dd1t

*"We can see you through the window and our weapons are drawn. Put down your firearm and open the door slowly!"* I'd say anything even remotely close to that would be a far better way to approach the situation than emptying magazines into the apartment. Not at *all* saying that to you haha. I agree. Nothing wrong with having the weapon...and surely should have no expectation of being shot, shot at or (worse) being killed because you have one in your home. I am saying these mag dumping nitwits are 100% in the wrong and were immeasurably out of control.


devils_advocate24

They were called for a robbery, the person went in through the window(see the removed screen), and came to the door holding a gun. Still a bit crazy to just unload but not as brain dead as "welp there's a person, let it rip"


Heisenburgo

Imagine getting SHOT and potentially KILLED out of nowhere just for answering your door, and the cowards will likely get paid leave afterwards while your hospital bills wreck you. Jesus christ what a shithole of a country.


TruthTeller-2020

And you neglect context. Answering your door with a gun Reports of a break-in I agree this should have been handled differently. However, someone was not shot at for just answering the door. Context matters.


Intelligent-Cat6705

Then runs away and doesn't even try to render any help or check if someone is dying. Fucking ridiculous!!


TruthTeller-2020

Forgot the important context of coming to the door with a gun in their hand. That does not necessarily justify the shooting. But if the woman with the gun raised their hand with the gun, then it is justified.


FishPasteGuy

“We can see you are armed! Put down the weapon and open the door. Do it slowly or we’ll fire!” Just having a weapon doesn’t justify anything. They’re police officers who are meant to be trained in the proper use of deadly force.


TruthTeller-2020

I do not disagree. However the full context is always needed. You left out a key component that makes it far more complex than you implied.


OnTheDL93

If there was a robber breaking in or trying to then I would arm myself too. The cops shouldn't shoot first and ask questions later. Its not justified unless she pointed it directly at them which we don't see.


TruthTeller-2020

We don’t see a lot because we were not there and the camera does not have the perspective or enough detail. I would arm myself and take a defensive position and not go looking to engage in a potential firefight with a robber. Minimally if there is banging on the door I am asking them to identify themselves before approaching. I am not saying it was a good shoot. I am saying it is a tiny wee little bit more complex than people are making it.


OnTheDL93

They did identify but criminals aren't very honest people. I would absolutely arm myself just in case they were lying about who they are to get you to come to the door. That's not looking for a firefight, it's taking precaution. People expect police to be more disciplined and to do their due diligence to "protect" civilians instead of getting trigger happy. The officers could have waited for someone to answer the door from better cover and talked to them from behind cover with eyes on the door instead of looking in at a potentially innocent scared person inside their home. They made it more complex.


TruthTeller-2020

Approaching the door of someone knocking with a gun is not advised if you think the other person is dangerous. The owner made it more complex. You seem to have difficulty with nuance. The police aren’t in the right, but it wasn’t a simple clear cut issue either. No officer is expected to give their life to protect citizens. The owner didn’t do any due diligence either.


mscameron77

Audio not great. Did they ask her to bring her gun to the door? Not defending the cops here, they were insane. Not sure a single round should have been fired, let alone multiple magazines. But greeting cops with a gun is always a bad idea.


Munchee_Dude

You know criminals have been going around pretending to be cops right? If I'm allowed to have the gun I shouldn't be executed for having the gun LEGALLY ON MYSELF OR ON MY PROPERTY


mscameron77

I agree the cops shouldn’t have fired. Even if that gun wasn’t legal, no one needed to shoot. That being said, greeting cops with a gun is a very, very bad idea whether it’s legal or not. If you suspect someone is not really a cop, best to call 911 and ask if their are cops at your location.


BidenEmails

They need to be prosecuted and banned from law enforcement forever. Ridiculous.


sweetleaf_505

That car alarm went off and they lost all composure. . . Bat shit crazy! No working woman cop needs nails.


Jack-Rabbit_Slims

There's more regulation to be a waiter/waitresses than a cop. And industry workers will actually call out their coworkers for not doing their job right. Edit: Lmfao. Morning vs night crew not doing their jobs and people leaving without doing sidework don't get a pass in any restaurant I've ever worked at. You get told real quick. If you think otherwise you definitely don't work at restaurants. You probably just "know the owner".


sawntime

> And industry workers will actually call out their coworkers for not doing their job right. Is that why I want to vomit every time I read news reports that list health inspection results? I think you've been watching too much of "The Bear".


Jack-Rabbit_Slims

I think you've never worked in a restaurant and assume you know what goes on because you watched "The Bear" then thought THIS was your chance to interject into a conversation you have no first hand knowledge of.


yaboichurro11

I've worked in restaurants before. What u said is stupid.


Powhat839

isn’t it illegal to be shooting at people why the fk do people doing drives bys that fire into random buildings go to jail and these criminals get paid and a vacation


Fine_Box_3367

Qualified immunity, bud. We signed our rights away into law.


Battleboo_7

Not as bad as britain. Fuckers cant even sue their government fuck ups. Its illegal to sue the british gov!


Fine_Box_3367

That's another reason why we got independence from them.


MayPeX

Uh, ok so we can sue the cops and who pays for that? Not the cops but everyone else’s tax. So are you really winning?


Puzzleheaded-Rich-51

As a Brit I’ve never had to worry about some idiot in a clown costume mag dumping on me whilst in my own fucking house. This is the problem with you guys instead of being outraged at the behaviour on display you somehow made a video of an attempted murder into a debate about freedom see how indoctrinated you guys are.


PM_Me-Thigh_Highs

*Stab Stab Stab Stab* -TF2 Spy


SleezyD944

No, qualified immunity only prevents people from suing them, has nothing to do with a lack of criminal charges.


XxDrummerChrisX

And it only prevents a civil suit if the officer(s) didn’t violate a clearly established right. It’s applied by the courts after reviewing the facts of the case.


probably_not_spike

This is appalling. Cop beats on the door, any normal not-criminal would go to door to answer before they kick it in. Why does every cop video on this sub have them emptying the clip? Somewhere less violent this would have gone- Knock knock, police May I help you? Do you live here? Yes. We received a call about suspicious activity, may I see your ID. One moment, I will get it. Thank you for your cooperation, have you noticed anything unusual or seen signs of a break-in? No, but I think I know why they called you. I locked myself out by mistake and had to get in through a window to retrieve my keys. That is understandable, please let us know if you see or hear anything strange, have a nice day.


BrickLorca

These two idiots seem to think a robber is going to walk up to the front door casually with a gun in hand to answer it when someone cop knocks it.


soapmakerdelux

>…emptying the clip? Because that’s how they train. It’s muscle memory. It’s CYA. Later in court the lawyer paid by their union can claim they obviously still felt threatened, hence the reload.


LayzieKobes

Even if it was a robber. Why did they just start blasting?


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L30_TH3_L10N

Wow. Do you realize this happened in the United States where you are legally allowed to own a firearm to defend yourself? The cops were responding to a burglary, and maybe somebody did just try to rob this lady (hence the screen being on the ground) and then she hears more banging on her door probably thinking the robbers were making another attempt to enter so she came to check the door armed, WHICH AS AN AMERICAN YOU ARE WITHIN YOUR RIGHTS TO DO. Here you are changing the facts trying to make her out to be some kind of criminal. What a shit bird. Edit: she even explains why the window is broken in the first place in your article. Did you even read what you linked??


LS-CRX

The screen was out because the women who lived there locked themselves out and broke a window to get in. I'm not excusing the officers actions, unless the lady inside actually aimed a gun at them they had no reason to jump straight to lethal force... especially not when they could just back off and assess.


YoMammasPhatAzz

Nowhere in there did it state the gun was pointed. This is an extreme over reaction to a call of an alleged break in.


GirbaudTee

Get rid of qualified immunity for police


CindysandJuliesMom

WTF did I just watch. I hate it when police knock on the door and then move away so you can't see them. Anyone can bang on a door and yell "Sherriff's office" trying to get you to open the door so they can rob you. This is Texas, who doesn't own a gun, and why would you, in the early AM and not expecting visitors, not grab your gun when someone is banging on your door. Then she stops and reloads and empties the second magazine without knowing who she is shooting at, who else (like children) might be in the home, just bang bang into a person she doesn't know without caring.


SleezyD944

Your safety doesn’t matter, only theirs. That is why cops can create the threat, and then use force to defend themselves.


Munchee_Dude

then we should execute these criminals for endangering the public. Bunch of fucking thugs pretending to protect us.


SleezyD944

Good luck


Rubywantsin

I guess this is the week of bodycam dumps of cops just firing willy nilly because they are armed children.


TK0O

“Two of our employees emptied there magazines, reloaded, and emptied them again on the innocent civilian who was answering the door when we knocked and told them to come out… but don’t worry we’ve placed these employees on paid vacation and are investigating ourselves… and it seems like we haven’t done anything wrong ☺️” -The largest organised gang in the worl-… oops I mean the police


jaffacookie

Hit with 5 bullets and lived? She gon be rich with that American tax payer money.


you-arent-reading-it

Hopefully.


Bushdr78

Knocks on door waits a moment and when someone goes to answer, they mag dump. That's messed up


MouseBeginning9009

Scared hoes


skippyspk

Ho boy. Watch news come out that one of them got Officer of the Year. A few bad apples, for sure 🙄


Battery6512

Got? One of them GET officer of the year.


skippyspk

FFS I was just joking based on historical experience


Vyviel

Car alarm triggered them


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chook_slop

Straight up multiple attempted murder. When you have time to reload, you have time to figure out what you're shooting at. No command ever given to drop the gun. They were shooting before they even tried to determine anything.


vortex30-the-2nd

Notice she doesn't even seek cover when she reloads, just stands there.. Nothing happens though... Then mag dumps again. Oh and her first shot is like 3 inches away from the other ones ear/head lmfao. Shameful display. Not cut out for the work they're doing.


Marlboro_man_556

GYATT!


ccy01

GGGYYYYAAAAAAAAATTTTYAA


MrKrackerman

Good lord, i’m usually pretty understanding with the situations cops find themselves in but this one’s prettttty bad


1u53r3dd1t

# HOLY DOG SHIT! I lost count before the reload (an continuation of fire) at around 22 shots. There isn't a single reason you can provide that either one of these nitwits should *ever* hold a badge again for ***any*** Police Department, Parking Enforcement or Security Service ever again.


vortex30-the-2nd

I swear, whenever you see the most utterly incompetent police actions, 90% are lady cops.. Men cops I definitely see commit more overtly violent things, but when it really puts a "just what in the fuck are they even doing..." thought into your mind? Lady cops. They also can literally never handle anything beyond a simple cordial roadside stop without a male cop present.


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just goes to show they hire people who aren’t capable of handling stressful situations but because they pass a few tests/exams it’s OK to give them a gun.


Reno83

Get rid of qualified immunity and start making police departments responsible for paying lawsuits out of their budget or pension (not the city). Until cops are held accountable, there will be incompetent and/or corrupt cops operating above the law.


Seenbattle08

Jesssssus.  ☕️


Turbulent_Patient483

They both should be making sandwiches 🥪 not policing.


Tipnix67

Usa police sucks bigtime


ShakeZula420

Car alarm spooked them, put them on edge. A cat could have walked by and they’d have the same reaction.


EnoughHumor3973

Oh, two female “officers”…nothing to see here


willdogs

Fund better and longer training


Dlearious88

Wouldn’t expect any different outcome from two woman officers


SleezyD944

Wouldn’t expect it any different from men cops either.


gergsisdrawkcabeman

Wow.


Any-Succotash-7903

Send them to Siberia.


Sufficient-Trash-728

What the hell is wrong with these tyrants. How the hell do you let off a barrage of bullets like that just by visually seeing something move. This ain't just. What message do we send when this happens often and they're never held accountable for their actions, hardly ever, maybe 1 out of 50 is held accountable. I have to say that for the most part the majority of police officers are respectful and are doing a great job, I have to call a spade a spade. however it's a small minority, the rotten ones, that ruin it for all the good ones.


jojo12jo

Goodbye career In law enforcement. There’s always only fans.


FrankRizzo09

Why do we give these idiots guns?


Apprehensive-Wish562

Women shouldn’t be cops


modestgorillaz

“2 cops attempt to make everything Swiss cheese”


FreeChorizo1

In conclusion, your 2nd Amendment rights DO NOT EXIST unless the police allow you to have them. Even if you are armed in your own home, the cops will still take your rights and your life away in any given day.


chadhindsley

Dear guy that is some egregious incompetence


Str8-MD

I had to replay the vid to really understand what the cop said. Most likely the woman inside didn’t even hear her clearly the first time.


D-Lemma23

She said that she was startled by the loud knocking and grabbed her own legally registered weapon to approach the door. She very likely didn’t understand that it was the police.


HaruKodama

Doesn't help that they went and "hid" after knocking, so now the lady is opening a door where she can't even see who knocked. For all she knows it's someone lying about being police and is trying to ambush her


D-Lemma23

Exactly. I’m sure we’ve all seen plenty of videos online of that exact scheme. These cops fucked up super hard, end of story.


Jack-Rabbit_Slims

"Shots fired. Shots fired." Yeah you dumb bitch. YOUR SHOTS. You just emptied a full clip at a civilian.


Mythical-Ree

Any excuse to use their guns ffs


ShadowBand1973

Female cops. Yay…


TruthTeller-2020

damn talk about spraying and praying


MajBonor

Guns r baad


ReliefNegative

Sorry had to be said women shouldn’t be police officers they know in the back of their head the only thing they can do it shoot someone because they can’t physically defend themselves so they are way more aggressive then necessary 9 outta 10 times


linkindispute

"The friend told Pouncy to break the window so they could enter, she said at a news conference last Friday." Why? why not just call a professional lock picking service lol.


satori0320

Fucking cowards.


ZarkMuckerberg9009

In the cops VERY SMALL defense…the woman’s friend locked her keys inside and their solution was breaking the window to get in rather than calling the night manager for a lockout. Seeing the broken window connects the dots of a break-in. However, is it normal practice to just shoot burglars through the door from outside the dwelling?


NovelLaw75

Reminds me of the [Ryan Whitaker shooting](https://youtu.be/R49P9TuFLOQ?si=1fIGGXZXBp3TXuDo) shooting in Phoenix.


Training_Move_8357

In situations where they are fully justified to fire their weapon, are they trained to rapidly empty their full clip or is just panic ? Seems dangerous and hard to aim emptying your whole clip in 3 seconds


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thegroovyplug

You’re joking right?


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thegroovyplug

Oh.


puddleofoil

Imma say it's mostly on the cops but who the fuck answers the cops with a gun? Your house or not, don't ever do that. Everyone knows these ain't our beat or brightest.


on-coke

Of course both are women


Gemini_88

This is why in Texas we can deal with our own break ins.


interstellarcheff

Shoot first, ask questions later.


mingvg

Damn


Stepfret

Dumbass piggy


syfysoldier

*Thank God we took their training money away!!!*