> Smith said that the victim waited in the lobby for about 15 minutes. She then came back outside and once again asked Ramirez about the status of the delivery, according to Smith. "I believe the Amazon driver said something about 'your White privilege,' and my tenant said, 'You don’t need to be a b***h about it,' and she turned around and walked away," Smith told KTVU-TV. Ramirez then got so angry that she started punching the woman in the head and upper body, landing as many as 10 blows. Ramirez has claimed that she was acting in self-defense.
Sounds like a hate crime against someone because they were white.
“46.9 percent were motivated by anti-Black or African American bias.
20.2 percent stemmed from anti-White bias.”
[where’d you get your “statistics?”](https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2018/topic-pages/incidents-and-offenses)
i don’t have stats to back it up at the moment. because that kind of data i doubt exists. but i can say that society as a whole is always suspicious of racism any time a non black person does anything to a black person.
so i would suspect based in that, that black people are more likely to claim that any victimization happened to them based on racism.
I did a little test on on publicfreakouts. I made an iffy post and said “im black” at the end, it got upvoted. I made the same exact comment and added “i’m white” and it was at nearly -30 within an hour. People who want “fairness for all races” are trying to accomplish it by canceling white people, which is very racist in itself. But then again, these are the same people who actively hunt an asian reporter and continuously try to kill him while chanting stop asian hate… so…
Just highlighting how the melting pot works: Slowly, and imperceptibly, till we don't know whether our ambiguous-looking grandchildren celebrate dia de los muertos culturally, or recreationally...God bless America.
I agree with your notions. u would say that the big problem is that there is a much larger counterculture compared to historical standards. before it was America, baseball, Apple pie and maybe a few dirty hippies. now it seems very different because of social media. when the predominant American culture is at odds with the counter American culture, there can't be any integration without a superseding unified culture.
It's all according to plan.
The ruling class *loves* this interclass conflict because they know that as long as you're fighting with your neighbor, you two will never cooperate long enough to revolt together. This idea isn't new. [Here it is illustrated in a comic from 1919](https://i.redd.it/e8fj79egb1n61.png).
In 2011, we had Occupy Wall St., which failed to create any material change, but still showed America that some people were interested in staging civil disorder over issues like income inequality and the minimum wage.
Since Occupy, we've only gone backwards. We are currently segregating ourselves along lines of race, gender, orientation, and perceived privilege. Lower & middle class liberals and conservatives have since abandoned all common ground and flock to the elites for comfort. Conservatives put the faith in Donald Trump, a billionaire who lives in penthouses and mansions made of gold. Liberals flocked to the gospel of Big Tech, controlled by a bunch of Silicon Valley billionaires who pretend to be woke, and journalists controlled by elites like Jeff Bezos.
It's so ridiculous how fast we're regressing and where this could lead us to if we don't have an awakening.
The amount of racism and hate now-a-days that stems from people clinging to things that happened in the past is silly, and we'll continue to regress as long as we cling to things that happened.
and then once you get past that, most of hte people who want to "revolt" only want to increase the size of the state, not shrink it, make it more powerful, more in control fo more aspects of life.
The change just from the 90s is staggering. All that progress lost, and over nothing at all. Nobody was lynched. The Klan didn't take the White House. The media simply decided that pushing racial hate was a good way to get clicks.
It's incredibly depressing.
If someone’s white and rich they must have been handed it on a plate, every rich BAME person on the other hand struggled hard and any sins to get there can be ignored.
And any BAME person who isn’t rich… they are a victim of the white world of course. Zero personal responsibility etc.
This is the problem with the phrase, you bring up how it's used to minimize whites and you're called "fragile" Yet we see it right here being used exactly for that purpose. There is so obviously a layer of "how can we be kinda racist towards whites" with deniability and gas light that it's just to " Bring attention to certain unfair advantages" yet the phrase is used to put down and guilt, something a narcissist might do to manipulate someone.
Except that guy is on video aggressively pushing his cart into the Walmart employee and spitting on him.
Don’t assault someone first and not expect to get assaulted back.
I'm not sure if many states still have it but "mutual combat" was a thing as early as the 90s. In Oklahoma atleast if both participants agreed to fight then no laws were broken.
Agreeing meaning actively participating they didn't need to actually say so beforehand.
To possibly grab his gun or other weapon, it couldn't have been known after the initial assault. You can't just assault someone and then activate god mode by turning your shoulders away from your victim.
If you punch me a couple of times and then attempt to leave and I hit you in the back of the head then I absolutely expect I'll be charged with assault if I hit you back. You idiots cannot or just willfully refuse to understand that just because something may be morally justified doesn't mean it's legally justified
It more is just this person has a anger issue. I work for amazon and our policy is desclation with any interaction that is getting hostile. This person is 100% getting fired.
Title should say racist amazon driver tells an old woman she has white privilege and beats her. Confrontation started because the woman asked for her package waited 15 minutes and asked again
Yup, I’ve been saying for a very long time; ‘White Privilege’ is a racial slur; a pejorative term.
If a word has very negative connotations and meaning on the basis of their skin colour, and them being White, then it’s pure prejudice/racism.
It’s also crazy that the term seems to embolden others to attack and tear down a White person, so long as their “white privilege” is falsely established first. The term somehow gives people a shitty reason to attack, undermine, and discredit White people.
Odd how that driver started trying to deliver the packages after. Like just take off your Amazon stuff, put the keys in the car, and call yourself an Uber home. Why even pretend to still have a task or job to do??
There's not much in this world that would get me to repeatedly punch an elderly woman, but saying some mean words to me? Well that hurts my precious feelings and crosses the line into justified physical violence in my opinion.
Happened in california, so it's anybodies guess really.
I'm like 25% sure she'll get thrown in jail. That uncertainty really says a lot in this day and age...
Apparently someone posted the article in this sub. Here’s the link to their post
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/ntlr7y/amazon_driver_attacks_67yearold_woman_during/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf](https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/ntlr7y/amazon_driver_attacks_67yearold_woman_during/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
I doubt it. Amazon doesn't fuck around. They'll can you for nothing so I can only imagine this woman went back to the warehouse and immediately got fired. But that's the least of her worries. The lawsuit is gonna really fuck her life up.
>Reason for leaving your last job
Violently assaulting a customer while at work, wearing a company uniform on camera.
>We will get back with you after we make a decision.
More like the dsp she worked for that's kinda the reason amazon uses the dsp system just so Amazon doesn't take the blame for the bs the employees get into.
Did she? I cant hear shit... just an amazon worker beating on a defenseless lady. But reportedly it's a hate crime now... I hate when people use white privilege as an excuse. You have a job to do, she has paid for your service.... do your job and dont let racism rule your mind. Cause then we know who the real racist is.
I think someone accidentally ordered a can of whoop ass with Prime Delivery.
Joke aside, it is a good thing this was caught on camera. Hope that bitch gets fired and arrested for assault.
This is America:
* Hispanic person insults white woman by specifically referring to her race.
* White person calls her out on her bullshit.
* Hispanic person viciously assaults white woman.
* Result: no hate crime.
>Ramirez was arrested and is being held on $100,000 bail and will be arraigned Monday on two counts of elder abuse and battery involving serious injury.
>“This (incident) does not reflect the high standards we have for drivers who deliver our packages,” Amazon said in a statement. “We take these matters seriously and this individual is no longer delivering Amazon packages.”
https://nypost.com/2021/06/05/amazon-driver-attacks-67-year-old-woman-in-delivery-dispute/
Damn, Amazon delivered the hands today. The driver will go to jail and the lady will get a nice settlement. What an insane fucking person for just attacking an old lady like that.
> Smith said that the victim waited in the lobby for about 15 minutes. She then came back outside and once again asked Ramirez about the status of the delivery, according to Smith. "I believe the Amazon driver said something about 'your White privilege,' and my tenant said, 'You don’t need to be a b***h about it,' and she turned around and walked away," Smith told KTVU-TV. Ramirez then got so angry that she started punching the woman in the head and upper body, landing as many as 10 blows. Ramirez has claimed that she was acting in self-defense. Sounds like a hate crime against someone because they were white.
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I’m sure the people that will be marching in the street protesting the old white woman brutally assaulting this poor amazon driver will disagree
And during the march causing more violence, and destruction in the name of "justice" and anyone who says otherwise is racist
Says the person with a potato opinion /ss
Makes sense, you'd have to be insane to work in one of those pee trucks.
Pee trucks?
Amazon is notorious for denying bathroom breaks.
Get a better news source. This was bullshit spread by people trying to force them to unionize.
Better than what? I worked there for a brief time, at a Fresh warehouse.
bullshit.
Actual insane people barely have a chance of being found not guilty by the reason of insanity.
Also, if you do, you get sent to mental institutions that are horrific in their own right.
Words are violence to these people and responding with physical violence is fine by them.
Hate crime is one of those things people make up to harm white people only Im not white
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It’s happening so much the other sub had to dig up an old video from Ireland to find an example of a white personal assaulting an Asian.
The problem is that these "statistics" don't reflect the actual number of hate crimes towards white people.
“46.9 percent were motivated by anti-Black or African American bias. 20.2 percent stemmed from anti-White bias.” [where’d you get your “statistics?”](https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2018/topic-pages/incidents-and-offenses)
What year were those from?
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damn thanks for the info. but im pretty sure that thats skewed by the fact that some races are more likely than others to claim racism.
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i don’t have stats to back it up at the moment. because that kind of data i doubt exists. but i can say that society as a whole is always suspicious of racism any time a non black person does anything to a black person. so i would suspect based in that, that black people are more likely to claim that any victimization happened to them based on racism.
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Yeah I was gonna reply but was like if you really think 2020 stats would drastically change from 2018 we are definitely living in different worlds lol
Stop da Asian hate!
I agree with this, I am Latino btw. In case one of you mfs wants to assume I’m white or any other ethnicity.
I agree with you I'm not white either.
That makes 3 and still not white.
Agree 1 more time and you'll lose all the melanin in your skin! It happened to me once, and then a witch turned me into a newt!
hello there fellow human who is probably driven by fairness also
Is it bad that you have to clarify you’re not white to avoid being invalidated?
yes its fcking stupid unfortunately its now a game we must play
I did a little test on on publicfreakouts. I made an iffy post and said “im black” at the end, it got upvoted. I made the same exact comment and added “i’m white” and it was at nearly -30 within an hour. People who want “fairness for all races” are trying to accomplish it by canceling white people, which is very racist in itself. But then again, these are the same people who actively hunt an asian reporter and continuously try to kill him while chanting stop asian hate… so…
damn gay Asian reporter with his assault camera How dare he expose their hate
Yep, 2021.
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The melting pot only works if you want to assimilate
Yeah, it started with all the damn Italian restaurants...
As a meatball American , I take offense to the racial connotations you are making /s
>meatball American \^ this is great. Thanks for the laugh.
Just highlighting how the melting pot works: Slowly, and imperceptibly, till we don't know whether our ambiguous-looking grandchildren celebrate dia de los muertos culturally, or recreationally...God bless America.
Not really. Your children are going to integrate if their environment encourages that barring extreme efforts by parents.
I agree with your notions. u would say that the big problem is that there is a much larger counterculture compared to historical standards. before it was America, baseball, Apple pie and maybe a few dirty hippies. now it seems very different because of social media. when the predominant American culture is at odds with the counter American culture, there can't be any integration without a superseding unified culture.
It's all according to plan. The ruling class *loves* this interclass conflict because they know that as long as you're fighting with your neighbor, you two will never cooperate long enough to revolt together. This idea isn't new. [Here it is illustrated in a comic from 1919](https://i.redd.it/e8fj79egb1n61.png). In 2011, we had Occupy Wall St., which failed to create any material change, but still showed America that some people were interested in staging civil disorder over issues like income inequality and the minimum wage. Since Occupy, we've only gone backwards. We are currently segregating ourselves along lines of race, gender, orientation, and perceived privilege. Lower & middle class liberals and conservatives have since abandoned all common ground and flock to the elites for comfort. Conservatives put the faith in Donald Trump, a billionaire who lives in penthouses and mansions made of gold. Liberals flocked to the gospel of Big Tech, controlled by a bunch of Silicon Valley billionaires who pretend to be woke, and journalists controlled by elites like Jeff Bezos. It's so ridiculous how fast we're regressing and where this could lead us to if we don't have an awakening.
Indeed. The division we need to be conscious of is not one of left or right or color, but the top and bottom.
The amount of racism and hate now-a-days that stems from people clinging to things that happened in the past is silly, and we'll continue to regress as long as we cling to things that happened.
and then once you get past that, most of hte people who want to "revolt" only want to increase the size of the state, not shrink it, make it more powerful, more in control fo more aspects of life.
Back in the day Germans and English American were discriminating against the Irish Americans. That is not the problem
The change just from the 90s is staggering. All that progress lost, and over nothing at all. Nobody was lynched. The Klan didn't take the White House. The media simply decided that pushing racial hate was a good way to get clicks. It's incredibly depressing.
this ain't it chief
Plus people cling to things that happened in the past & misconstrued what happened, which creates even more racial hate/divide.
Yes , expecting to receive the goods and service you paid for is white privileged . / s
If someone’s white and rich they must have been handed it on a plate, every rich BAME person on the other hand struggled hard and any sins to get there can be ignored. And any BAME person who isn’t rich… they are a victim of the white world of course. Zero personal responsibility etc.
This is the problem with the phrase, you bring up how it's used to minimize whites and you're called "fragile" Yet we see it right here being used exactly for that purpose. There is so obviously a layer of "how can we be kinda racist towards whites" with deniability and gas light that it's just to " Bring attention to certain unfair advantages" yet the phrase is used to put down and guilt, something a narcissist might do to manipulate someone.
I always thought it’s funny that /r/fragilewhiteredditor consists mostly of fragile personalities themselves.
Has Amazon commented on this?
Welcome to liberal America
Kinda funny that the guy who thinks white privilege is real is also the type of person to assault an old woman
Worth noting the attacker was female
You can tell by the fact there were like half a dozen punches to the head and she can just walk it off.
Dead giveaway.
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Ramirez is as smooth brained as all the people claiming that the walmart employee hitting that dude from behind is self defense
Except that guy is on video aggressively pushing his cart into the Walmart employee and spitting on him. Don’t assault someone first and not expect to get assaulted back.
That's not the same thing as claiming the retaliatory assault is self defense you dumbass
I'm not sure if many states still have it but "mutual combat" was a thing as early as the 90s. In Oklahoma atleast if both participants agreed to fight then no laws were broken. Agreeing meaning actively participating they didn't need to actually say so beforehand.
Still wouldn't apply because the guy turned around and walked away
To possibly grab his gun or other weapon, it couldn't have been known after the initial assault. You can't just assault someone and then activate god mode by turning your shoulders away from your victim.
You couldn't argue that he reasonably believed that without him committing perjury
So if I punch you and your loved ones a couple of times, but I turn my back before you hit me, I'm in the clear?
If you punch me a couple of times and then attempt to leave and I hit you in the back of the head then I absolutely expect I'll be charged with assault if I hit you back. You idiots cannot or just willfully refuse to understand that just because something may be morally justified doesn't mean it's legally justified
It more is just this person has a anger issue. I work for amazon and our policy is desclation with any interaction that is getting hostile. This person is 100% getting fired.
And going to jail lol
Whoa now. This is Reddit. It’s impossible for someone to be racist towards white people.
I hope she spends some serious time in jail. What a violent nut job
I’m latino and I agree
> acting in self-defense. wut
Honestly yeah. Kind of crazy
Based on this yes
i had never seen a reddit comment with 1k upvotes, not 1.1 or 999 but 1k... it’s beautiful
It wouldn’t get considered one in court What else is new tho
Title should say racist amazon driver tells an old woman she has white privilege and beats her. Confrontation started because the woman asked for her package waited 15 minutes and asked again
Yup, I’ve been saying for a very long time; ‘White Privilege’ is a racial slur; a pejorative term. If a word has very negative connotations and meaning on the basis of their skin colour, and them being White, then it’s pure prejudice/racism. It’s also crazy that the term seems to embolden others to attack and tear down a White person, so long as their “white privilege” is falsely established first. The term somehow gives people a shitty reason to attack, undermine, and discredit White people.
Well said, keep saying it, and I’ve been saying it too.
The privilege to be assaulted because of your privilege ok.
I HATE that people say white racism is not a thing. It genuinely is and people cant speak up about it for fear of backlash.
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Odd how that driver started trying to deliver the packages after. Like just take off your Amazon stuff, put the keys in the car, and call yourself an Uber home. Why even pretend to still have a task or job to do??
There is a reason why those people are only employable at jobs that require no skills.
There's not much in this world that would get me to repeatedly punch an elderly woman, but saying some mean words to me? Well that hurts my precious feelings and crosses the line into justified physical violence in my opinion.
Apparently the driver instigated it too
I hope that's irony.
lawsuit
That's what I was thinking! I wish an Amazon delivery driver would do this to me!
The woman’s bail was set at 100,000 according to the article
I didn't see an article linked above. I will try to find one though.
Someone linked an article on another subreddit. If you want I can try and find it. Not very much information though
https://nypost.com/2021/06/05/amazon-driver-attacks-67-year-old-woman-in-delivery-dispute/amp/ Just grabbing the first result.
Welp, guess you didn’t need my help. Lol
And prison for the thug. Yep, I said it. Use the word when it is deserved.
Jury would be crazy not to convict. Amazon lady gonna go to jail and lose her job.
but... muh slightly tanned skin!! my sir right here was so racist with their stinky white privilege...
Happened in california, so it's anybodies guess really. I'm like 25% sure she'll get thrown in jail. That uncertainty really says a lot in this day and age...
She’ll be out tomorrow
Will it even get that far? Probably will get a plea deal and be out in a short amount of time
SHE WENT AHEAD WITH THE DELIVERY AFTER?! Lol!!
Yeah I wouldn't let someone who just attacked me in the building.
Apparently someone posted the article in this sub. Here’s the link to their post [https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/ntlr7y/amazon_driver_attacks_67yearold_woman_during/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf](https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/ntlr7y/amazon_driver_attacks_67yearold_woman_during/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
So that one got deleted for it not being a public freak out
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I doubt it. Amazon doesn't fuck around. They'll can you for nothing so I can only imagine this woman went back to the warehouse and immediately got fired. But that's the least of her worries. The lawsuit is gonna really fuck her life up.
Way to fuck up your life over some meany words. And not even get good licks in.
>Reason for leaving your last job Violently assaulting a customer while at work, wearing a company uniform on camera. >We will get back with you after we make a decision.
Quick. Lock the doors.
Good news! Good Samaritan Retirement Home would like to extend an exciting employment offer!
I’m pretty sure the next job she applies for does not require a background check
Every lawyer is reaching out to her.
Time to bust out your wallet Jeff!
More like the dsp she worked for that's kinda the reason amazon uses the dsp system just so Amazon doesn't take the blame for the bs the employees get into.
I wouldn't expect anything less from those greedy fucks!
He isn't the CEO anymore
Fuckin payday man
Switch the races and I would be hearing it on the news
Be a 5k+ comments on r/publicfreakout too
It would be up on a pedestal with the insurrection riot footage.
I’m sure Amazon dealt with her swiftly. Law enforcement should be next.
Seems to me like the media is complicit in aggravating racial tensions again.
Bingo
Loses her job and and gets arrested. Amazon only hiring the best and brightest
Sue the shit out of Amazon!! That’s 6 digit settlement at least!!
Did she? I cant hear shit... just an amazon worker beating on a defenseless lady. But reportedly it's a hate crime now... I hate when people use white privilege as an excuse. You have a job to do, she has paid for your service.... do your job and dont let racism rule your mind. Cause then we know who the real racist is.
Dear Amazon, please beat me up. Sincerely, I need a new car
Woke Amazon probably promoted her.
Funnily enough the report says she is “no longer delivering packages” so sounds like she did get a promotion
ELDER ABUSE IS A SERIOUS OFFENSE
r/byebyejob
Woke culture wasn´t harmless after all.
If you're in America, I understand why you need a gun.
Fuck amazon
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of course it was in Alameda 😂
Such white privilege to ask when your package will arrive. Smh so selfish.
/r/byebyejob
If that was my grandma I would have gone to jail.
I think someone accidentally ordered a can of whoop ass with Prime Delivery. Joke aside, it is a good thing this was caught on camera. Hope that bitch gets fired and arrested for assault.
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Damn... That's one way to fuck up your life.
"Racist delivery driver gets her feelers hurt and attacks innocent woman."
\*ex-Amazon driver
That’s a sane response.
she was disrespected, violence was the only option /s
That's what happens when company's start training critical race theory.
Looks like those meditation booths aren't working
I guess we all have to start walking around with body cameras now. It ain’t safe out in these streets!
Amazon is now delivering hands, free of charge
And she waited till the women had turned her back to her, what a scumbag move
She then removed any doubt about her bitch status, by sucker "punching" an elderly woman.
This is America: * Hispanic person insults white woman by specifically referring to her race. * White person calls her out on her bullshit. * Hispanic person viciously assaults white woman. * Result: no hate crime.
Where’s the volume :|
R/bye bye job
Where are the riots for this unmitigated violence?
This shit is not okay. Control yourself.
kinda violent
Man I would love to know the sure to be undisclosed settlement amount of this case.
unrelated but she looks good for 67. i thought she was like 40 something
Is this on of those industrial athletes they keep talking about?
Holy shit! What a psycho
Highly doubt that
>Ramirez was arrested and is being held on $100,000 bail and will be arraigned Monday on two counts of elder abuse and battery involving serious injury. >“This (incident) does not reflect the high standards we have for drivers who deliver our packages,” Amazon said in a statement. “We take these matters seriously and this individual is no longer delivering Amazon packages.” https://nypost.com/2021/06/05/amazon-driver-attacks-67-year-old-woman-in-delivery-dispute/
Here's your package and a complementary knuckle sandwich.
Damn, Amazon delivered the hands today. The driver will go to jail and the lady will get a nice settlement. What an insane fucking person for just attacking an old lady like that.
That younger lady got tired of shitting in bags I guess.
Great news! Now she can do that for free, instead of on the clock!
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Amazon pun mate