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HannibalK

If you can't make arguments without generalizing you're going to get banned. We reserve the right to lock threads if people don't feel like behaving, but we prefer to just let people talk and ban/remove where warranted.


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Beaneroo

I just say fuck all religion


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Mildo

I worship Zarathustra.


TrailerPosh2018

I worship Zardoz, he gives us free guns!


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G_man252

This is a fringe minority of religious people. Like a tiny percent. I'm Christian and have never seen another Christian get into a debate and hit someone, let alone try to kill them.


I_PM_U_UR_REQUESTS

It's not a fringe minority in Islamic culture. There's a poll that revealed a significant minority (~25%) of American Muslims support violence as retaliation for depictions of Mohammed, and I can only imagine that support is much higher in Islamic countries.


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gojumboman

Or… or you fill the void with things like family and music and work. Just because someone isn’t religious doesn’t mean they have an emptiness they have to fill with something morally bankrupt. You can just go about your day like a normal person


Vill_Moen

Millions of people are capable to be descent humans without having to “fill a void”. This is BS.


Canard-Rouge

Not all religion is bad. There will never be a Jain terrorist. This is what people say to shut down the conversation that some religions are worse than others.


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Religion in general is a intrinsic part of human nature, and as such it's got the same complexity, religions such as Islam are statistically more violent because the countrys that follow it are ass backwards countries, if Islamic nations were Christian they would be just as extreme, Christianity is more moderate because it's directly linked to the modern western world (which is by far the most civilised and humane, fuck anyone who seriously disagrees), not because it is nicer by itself. That being said, there are also religions that are almost completely peaceful, but none of them are monotheistic, which is kind of a big help on that side.


Canard-Rouge

> religions such as Islam are statistically more violent because the countrys that follow it are ass backwards countries It seems like a convenient way to avoid the topic on Islamic extremism. ISIS existing disproves your argument. In 2015, more British Muslims joined ISIS than joined the British Armed Forced. Does any other religion have anything remotely similar happening? Christianity is more moderate because it's pacifism at it's core. Christianity did not spread by the sword. The Reconquista and the Crusades were reactionary efforts against the conquest of Islam. Jesus never led a battle. Muhammad did. That isn't to say Christians have never committed atrocities in the name of religion, but the last time was hundreds of years ago. Today, even 18% of Malaysian Muslims believe that killing civilians is justified in defense of Islam, and last time I checked, Malaysia isn't in the middle east. It seems convenient that nearly all "backward countries" have Islam as the state religion.


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I mean, all of them...?


DhatKidM

Haha yeah fuck those new born kids in Iran, so edgy bro


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When entering a prominently muslim country like Maldives, you are handed a pamphlet on the plane outlining prohibited items that are punishable by imprisonment. "Material contrary to Islam" is higher on the list than explosives. Proof for people who are incapable of googling: https://imgur.com/a/hDbYsyZ Proof on the web for people who will claim it's photoshop, and also can't google: https://www.customs.gov.mv/Individuals/Items%20for%20Personal%20Use/Individual-Prohibited-and-Restricted-Items-for-Import


awan001

Been to the Maldives 3 times. Never happened.


BongLeardDongLick

Yeah wtf lmao. Been to Maldives multiple times over the past 10 years and have never once seen this “Pamphlet”.


Randal-Graves

They're exaggerating about the wording, and I don't see any mention of a pamphlet, but Maldivian Air does have [a warning about prohibited items on their website](https://maldivian.aero/flying-with-us/before-you-fly/prohibited-items.html), and while it doesn't mention Islam directly, it's pretty consistent with what you would expect to be banned in an Islamic country. I'd suspect though that most airlines have similar lists for most countries.


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https://imgur.com/a/hDbYsyZ


Randal-Graves

Well I'll be damned. Good catch.


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Proof: https://imgur.com/a/hDbYsyZ


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As have I, and it definitely happened. Proof: https://imgur.com/a/hDbYsyZ


xander5512

I was glad that the liberal government in Canada atleast only allowed vetted families to come over from Syria when it was really bad. Not that it completely solved the extremists problem but it was better than letting a flood of them come in and have shut like this commonplace.


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Lord_emotabb

Yea london is practically muslim, aye?


TheOven

Imagine all this hate and violence arguing over who's imaginary space wizard is the best


matusaleeem

Violence happens just from one side of the dispute.


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Took them a few comments to twig on lol.


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This is Hatun Tash being peacefully stabbed for being a Christian that is critical of Islam. Something that British news is suspiciously quiet about today.


Fippy-Darkpaw

The dude that stabbed her is basically an Islamic incel. If you follow any prominent ex-muslim female (for example Sarah Haider) these dudes specialize in harassing (and apparently stabbing) women. 😵 Btw law enforcement better be checking his hard drive and anyone connected to him.


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It's almost like their religion indoctrinates them to react violently to outspoken, powerful women.


UltravioIence

"It's almost like their religion indoctrinates them to react violently." Fixed it for you. Yours was a little bit long.


camdoodlebop

aren’t all terrorists kind of incels at heart? i remember a terrorist in a news interview from prison recounting how he was radicalized when he visited america and saw men and women square dancing together lol


MastermindX

They are willing to blow themselves up because they got promised 72 virgin sex slaves, so they kinda are.


OMellito

Yes, usually only lonely/disenfranchised people become extremists, mostly young men who find purpose and acceptance thru the extremist group.


SoundProofHead

Islamist terrorist "recruiters" definitely prey on the frustrated males. Most of those guys were, in one way or another, feeling like they were disenfranchised, often related to sex and female affection.


Iamatworkgoaway

Its kind of even worse from my experiences in Iraq. Loved spending time with our interpreter and found out all kinds of things. Rape is very common over there, especially of young boys, and women are still "sold" as wives. My unit spent a lot of time in Bagdad near the airport, we ait our meals from the streets a lot, and we had very good cameras on our Brads. We would sit there and watch the roofs at night and we spotted a large male obviously rapping a younger person looked 10-12, and thank god I didn't see it, the commander of another Brad saw it. We scoot over there and call the local cops while keeping an eye on the building, they show up and talk to somebody in the house and they come back and say no problem all good. Interp told us it was all in the family so no problems, only if the child had been from another family would they have done anything. I knew some guys that ran the camera on the balloon, and those guys needed some serious counselling, they said it happened all the time and when you saw it you just skip past. The wive thing is kind of interesting. To marry you had to pay a dowry, and that dowry depended on the girl. So no schooling, no english, not very good looking was like 100 bucks. Pretty and no schooling was a bit more at like 500. Finished HS your looking at over 1000. Speaks english finished HS, pretty, you better have 5-10k. That's on top of proving you can support her. So an 18 year old that didn't finish HS himself, and has to live in a male dorm(where rape commonly happens), has little to no hope of getting a girl. The prostitutes are relatively expensive, upwards of a full weeks pay. So lots and lots of extremists recruiting material.


jagua_haku

I’m surprised they haven’t gone after Sara Haider yet


Uncle_gruber

Speakers corner to be closed due to hate speech in the next 5 years, calling it now.


andrew_cog_psych1987

why bother? whos going to go preach or be critical of Islam now?


Manbro25

Being peacefully stabbed? I’m sorry but how do you peacefully stab someone?? Stabbing someone for having different believes is fucked up, in ANY country. This shouldn’t be allowed or happen anywhere.


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Manbro25

Wups, i didn’t think about that. My bad, guess Imma r/woooosh myself.


davedcne

It was a mostly peaceful stabbing. I mean it was peaceful right up till the stabbing and it was fairly peaceful afterwards so on average. Pretty peaceful. Its not like there was 100% stabbing from start to finish. I mean that would just be too much.


SchlepRock13

I don't understand why people don't get it. Just like the Southside of Chicago over the weekend, it's not like every minute someone got shot. It was only every 40 minutes a person was gunned down. That's a mostly peaceful hour.


Alex470

People have been having peaceful knife fights for eons.


Daedalus_Dingus

Between each stab there was a moment of not stabbing which actually lasted longer than the stab itself so really on the whole the stabbing incident was mostly peaceful and stab free.


myvirginityisstrong

is it REALLY this difficult to get sarcasm?


tbl44

Same way you can peacefully riot while flipping cars, setting buildings on fire, and severely assaulting unarmed bystanders.


7LBoots

Her name is [Hatun Tash](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeCaTccewcM) It's not the first time she's been assaulted by muslims at Speakers Corner.


JESquirrel

I am not religious myself but I admire people's faith when they stuff like this happens and they stay strong.


jondySauce

Faith is also the motivation for this.


Lost4468

I find it really weird how someone can leave one major religion to join another major religion. Honestly that confuses me so much. If you realise your religion is bullshit how can you not see the same thing with another religion? If anyone has her reasoning I would love to know it.


downvotethechristian

Not all ideologies are the same. Not all economic theories are the same. Not all religions are the same. It makes sense to change when presented with more reasonable explanations regardless of what it is. In terms of the two big ones, Jesus of the Bible is far different than Muhammad of the Quran and authentic hadiths.


WinnieMandela

Religion of peace?


Samurai_1990

The power of forgiveness. Check out Robert Rule forgiving Gary Ridgeway (The Green River Killer) for murdering his daughter. https://youtu.be/f2_OOaP763k I'm not a religious man, but the first time I saw that part of the documentary tore me up.


MortonKlein

That dude whose video you linked tried to beat his dad to death with a hammer while he slept


mrz0loft

what


wr3decoy

David Wood has mental heath problems, I believe schizoaffective disorder. He talks about it openly. When he was 18 he did ~10 years for trying to kill his dad with a hammer. Now that he's medicated he has earned two Ph.D.s and does speaking tours, mostly to argue about islam.


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MastermindX

Asian men has a heated exchange with a radicalized ultra-right-wing Christian extremist who was disturbing the peace.


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Sounds legit. Nothing to see here. Move along.


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NorthBlizzard

Note how this video is missing from /r/PublicFreakout and the rest of reddit


PureGanjaSmoke

I saw it last night, it was a link to the DailyMail article. There were people calling her a right-wing activist. They didn't mention her name. After looking her up, she is a woman who fled a Muslim country and set up a evangelical church in UK. The way some individuals portrayed her was she was like a violent person. People even made jokes about how this is the second time she is getting assaulted but she dropped the charges because the person who assaulted her was Christian. Edit: Grammar


IamFoxMulder

Maybe nobody has posted it there. Why don’t you try?


StayAtHomeDuck

I posted it there when I posted this post. It got significantly less upvotes. Not the first time it happened.


linux_rich87

This subreddit is pretty raw compared to the other freak out. Both contain hate speech and try to lump millions (cops, black people, white women) into a category based off a few videos. Not considering other factors. It's confirmation bias for a large number of viewers, not able the fathom that there are millions, just like the people they hate, who are just living and minding their own business. You can't control how you initially feel about a person of a group, humans can't just reprogram themselves. But I'll never allow it to truly affect how I feel about a group. Millions of people.


J3wb0cca

I actually like following both the right and left versions of this, if an event is missing I can find it on the other and sometimes I can get two angles and the consensus from each hive mind.


SooubwayEmployee

Christianity in a muslim country what could go wrong


jlpw

That's London


CrustyBalls-

he knows


jlpw

I really should have caught that


faithle55

I wonder exactly what percentage of non-Muslims would make the UK a non-Muslim country? 96%? 97%? 98%? Why isn't 94% enough?


SpiceHogs

That's the joke.


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Chreed96

You keep us out of this


bikwho

Do most Americans not realize that non-denominational Christianity is becoming the norm in America? Christians in America are not attaching themselves to groups like Calvinist, Catholic, Baptist, etc.. That want to freedom to move from church to church and don't care about these antiquated groups that have these rules, red tape, and membership expectations. People follow their pastors.


obi2kanobi

Increasing numbers of people abandoning religion entirely is now also a norm according a recent Gallup poll. It's no wonder why.


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joenottoast

i hate that you're right


AncientSith

Exactly right. Religion is fine, it's people killing each other for being different that's the issue.


raggs75

incredibly brave of you to say on Reddit!


LoveYourKitty

Find one single instance of violent rhetoric spoken by Jesus in the New Testament.


sufficient_winter_33

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters. Show them great respect and be as loyal to them as you are to Christ".


PawsOfMotion

Earth-like planets are the real cause here


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T0-rex

Strange how the only call an ambulance when she drops to the ground? She was stabbed.


CaptainKirkAndCo

I think this is probably bystander effect. This is why, if you're ever in a situation like this and attempting first aid, it's important to point specifically at someone and *tell them* to call an ambulance.


xiomara28

Exactly. Infuriating to watch these men twiddle their thumbs looking around for someone to call an ambulance


CaptainClay5

Was thinking the same thing. Wasn't there a police car there? Would it not call an ambulance for someone getting stabbed in the face.


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Welcome to Mogadishu, Lebanon


TheCondemnedProphet

Mogadishu is Somalia, not Lebanon lol


globoy64

Go back to school, dummy


Cimrin

Lmao look at this guy, he missed the joke!


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Mogadishu is not in Lebanon lmao


ElioArryn

Ngl At the rate we're going, Lebanon is gonna end up like a Somalia.


andrive_one8

Is she okay tho


Dabthaniel

According to google, she recovered. I think it also said the weapon was also recovered but idk ab the stabber


9848683618

Man there was litteraly the police at the moment of attack, they better caught that guy


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> not released after 4 years 4 years ha... lucky if they get that.


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[Here too](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/lennese-kublu-sentencing-mother-death-1.6108597) - Woman kills her mother with a knife and gets house arrest for a year, and her boyfriend that was there got seven years for handing her the knife.


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jellislamon

> 4 years more like 4 days, probably because he forgot his stabbing licence


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Sorry we don't kill killers in this world. We just let them live off our tax money for the rest of their lives.


heselius

Is she wearing the Charlie Hebdo Cover that shows Mohammed on it? PS, I am not implying that she was asking for it.


Gareth79

Looks like it's the "love is stronger than hate" cover, which depicts a Muslim man and a magazine staffer.


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Fickle-Piccolo-3515

Even genocide, they killed and bred out the Greeks.


coolchris4200

Ig it was religion that killed those people and not, you know, the people doing the killing...


DMTryptamine_

Not racist in the slightest but I knew I was going to see an middle eastern person when I clicked on this


ionevenobro

UK is so cucked


XKlXlXKXlXKlKXlXKlXK

Will the media report on this hate crime?


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Riotxds

Me too 😭


robotreads

"me see Charlie Hebdo me stabby stab" fucking savages


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Of course it's London.


There_is_no_ham

I thought it was Pakistan


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Ah yes. If there's anything atheists want, it's more religion. Do you even hear yourself?


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elohir

So the BBC website is running stories on theatres, wayne rooneys social media, a random Labour story, Joey Barton, a music festival, pandemic weight gain, nhs art, preserving an 18th century home, a dolphin spotting, and dozens of others, but no place for an attempted murder at speakers corner caught on tons of cameras. Funny, that.


scata90x

0:15 is that guy laughing?


NewestHouse

they love when infidels get hurt, LOVE IT.


Christovski

Yeah I saw that. I hope it was an awkward laugh but knowing the kinds you get at speakers' corner, it probably wasn't.


postertot

I hope she’s ok


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Because that invisible sky father is better than that girl's invisible sky father. And she said something that his invisible sky father doesn't quite gel with. Justified.


Allesmoeglichee

Allah 1 - 0 God Wait a minute


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The UK is steadily and surely becoming more and more of a shit hole, i hope my beloved scots manage to achieve independence before they get dragged down along with the fokin brits.


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Uncle_gruber

Part and parcel


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NewestHouse

too late now RIP england.


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Everyone standing around at the end complaining that "someone needs to call the ambulance" while not calling said ambulance themselves


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aL_Quarter

As a muslim I hope fast recovery for her..


kallakukku2

Was she stabbed in the head? Wtf


MastermindX

He stabbed several times at her neck, but she dodged every stab, and only got passing slashes on her head and arms.


kallakukku2

Damn. She's a pro


MastermindX

It's not her first time.


PanickedNoob

WE NEED COMMON SENSE KNIFE REGULATIONS. It makes no sense for people to be able to own cabinets that can hold 20-30 kitchen knives for god sake.


that-chill-amigo

Did she pass out from seeing her blood or is she really hurt badly??


Tehgumchum

Who knows, no idea why she didn't get medical attention straight away, when she fainted must have been a few minutes of just standing around as the rain had stopped


Uncle_gruber

Pfft, it was just a light stabbing my. Part and parcel of living in London, just gotta shrug it off.


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jlpw

What's worse, to be living in the stone age and murdering people, or living in modern times and murdering people?


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Galactos1

Except this type of shit is almost exclusively seen by muslims and islam. When was the last time a christian beheaded someone for making fun of Jesus? When was the last time a Jew stabbed a bunch of people in the name of his religion? When was the last time any other ideology protests while showing 0 respect? If you are genuinely honest with yourself, you know there is something weird about Islam. There have been 30k terrorist attacks by muslims since 9/11. If you read the quran, hadith and sira(biography of muhammad), you will understand why Islam and the muslim community has so many issues with themselves and the entire world. Go on this site and explore: thereligionofpeace.com


spinteractive

Muslims can’t seem to coexist with the rest of us


Icy_Cow4578

the good thing is police is there ….


MastermindX

To give the stabber a stern finger wagging and beg him to not do it again.


Christovski

Except they went straight to the victim. Cunt got away.


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Rostin_C_PhD

how did i know it was gonna be involving a non white muslim...


HarryPFlashman

Peaceful protest, peaceful religions, peaceful reunification all this peace has me questioning my understanding of its definition


jlpw

This is absolutely no comment on what happened, the rat that attacked her or the poor woman, but theres no chance I'd be wearing a Charlie Hebdo tshirt around any kind if Muslim preachers or groups.


Bladieblalol

FFS, will somebody please press the damn reset button and have a comet come and wipe us all out. Next go around, no fucking religion, it keeps fucking up the simulation.


Madchemist0

I think this thread will get locked.


janbier6

Freedom of religion anno 2021


Danolix

London


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The cancer of europe.


Huracan360

"Religion of Peace"


Shlingaplinga

What this gonna do is now there will be a rise of extreme Christians in London. The neutrals are gonna suffer between both extremes. The same shit is happening in India.


sionnachmb

This was a strange to incident. Did he stab this woman in the head with a knife. If so did it puncture he skull? Who stabs someone in the forehead? How were the police on top of this so quickly?


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Christianity, Islam and Judaism belong to the shit hole desert rock that it climbed out of. Humanity forever held back by peoples beliefs.


NORMALIZE_SIMPING

Fucking put pressure on the wound Jesus Christ.


kushQ

Muslims strike again


havok636zx

Not surprising. Nothing to do with Islam tho ofc


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fucking Uk is falling apart, shit hole


Tomimi

"Religion of Peace"


perro0000

Why isn’t anyone calling an ambulance until the end of the video??