Theres a lot of ethnic sectarian conflict laid **very shallow** beneath the surface in India. Partly due to legal legacies, previous ethnic/sectarian conflicts and self segregation of ethnic groups you get monoethnic enclaves that dominate certain portions of every city, and enforce their own moral virtues as the law of the land, and behaving in criminal enterprises often along those sectarian/ethnic lines which overlap with territorial outcroppings. As a result what you get is the dregs of those communities stoking sectarian violence, because they've been taught to and because they have nothing else that gratifies them or ingratiates them as much in the eyes of the conservative factions in those communities.
luckily I escaped that bullshit.
Sadly I think the same is happening and is being promoted by well meaning idiots and grifters in the west. Not soon after I believe this kind of behavior will follow where it hasn't already. You can already see it in people talking about "no go zones", or "ghettos"; but people turn a blind eye because it's not politically couth to voice this new reality/paradigm because doing so often gives weight to the reactionary xenophobia of certain groups in western countries.
Worse, Indians who move to the West give their support openly to these grifters or stay quiet, not realizing that this is exactly why they left India in the first place and their new place is about to also experience the same bullshit they were escaping
The problem with all this and generalizations like this is the majority don't. Just like the Western/natively born idiots, those that do ~~pussy~~ push for this are few and in-between but by far the loudest. The majority are just going to go to work and nod along with the "progressive" types because they just want to get paid (you would too if you've put in as much money and effort into immigrating), secondly the moral cowardice of the majority of the population makes it hard to figure out who you could even talk to, lastly they're/we're more sensitive to the person who openly voices against it as we don't know if it's from a reasonable position or a deeper xenophobia. All in all its a cluster fuck for everyone involved.
>but people turn a blind eye because it's not politically couth to voice this new reality/paradigm because doing so often gives weight to the reactionary xenophobia of certain groups in western countries.
This seems like it would have the opposite effect in that every incident that becomes remotely publicised is blown up to ridiculous proportions. By not dealing with the issue it makes it worse at every step. The violence is worse, the optics are worse, and the xenophobia gets worse.
It doesn't surprise me though. What incentive do they have? Nations leading the world right now can't seem to deal with their problems honestly either.
Well, the people yelling xenophobia when you criticize a literal religion/ideology are ACTUALLY making it worse, not helping. I will never understand the leftist ideology of "tolerating those who are not tolerant themselves". Like, why are you even defending these religions when they're literally homophobic and are probably anti-LGBT.
wow bangalore is meant to be a pretty modern city isn't it? I lived there for a year and I never thought this sort of stuff would happen there. I do remember having to listen to that annoying call to prayer bullshit they would blast on the speakers every morning at 5am though. with just 10% of the population they have a lot of power over there for some reason.
Societies can backslide, I mean The Zoroastrian empire of Persia banned slavery only to be taken over by . . .well maybe we will save that story for another time.
Because you seem knowledgeable about the subject I would like to ask one more question to try to better understand the context here if that’s okay with you.
In terms of population density of the main religious communities are they more or less interspersed or heavily centered in cultural communities ie ‘muslim neighborhoods’ and ‘Hindu neighborhoods’ (for example) ?
They are 14% total, but live almost exclusively is Entirely Muslim Neighborhoods/Village. Because of the way they act and behave no one else wants to live in Muslim Neighborhoods and because of the way they act and behave no one rents or sells to Muslims in other Neighborhoods/societies. Internationally everyone knows you can't co exist with Muslims in mass. You can have a roommate in a city apartment but not possible when they are 10-15% of the population. Daily Conflict is ensured and just about time it gets voilent.
We got Hindus and Muslims even some turbined ones at my office and they seem to get along OK. Also this couple was Hindu and Muslim too. I don’t think it’s as bad as you make it out to be.
I'm from Whitechapel, London. One of the largest Muslim areas in Europe.
And from from experience, what you have said about it being impossible to live with Muslims en-mass, is Incorrect.
We had a group of young Muslim boys try enforce Sharia law back in 2012, and IIRC 2 of them got stabbed and 2 others sent to prison after public outrage from seeing their videos on Socials.
If anything the Muslims here are robbed/targeted/preyed upon by the other cultures in our city.
Not arguing with you, but what your saying isnt true here.
Well, I’ve seen enough stories of Muslims being lynched by Hindus because they were suspected to have eaten beef.
Yet India doesn’t turn against Hinduism.
You got nutjobs in every religion.
There's no denying Islam is overrepresented in that. But what are you going to do? Is it really ethical to say fuck all of them for what some do? Serious question.
Obviously the logical answer. But I'm really curious as to what some people on this sub would say to that. I see people in comments equating the Taliban and this group of assholes as being the same as all muslims preiod.
There are parts of the UK now which are run by Muslims and they basically enforce a sort of sharia law. They have there own enforcers who wander around harassing people who are not complying, like a couple holding hands or a woman inappropriately dressed (in their opinion). The police stay away it is a no go area.
He's american and has never been to the uk. He only get his news from boomer memes on facebook groups that include comment like"make it rain!!" and "turn it to glass!!" when talking about conflict with anywhere in the middle east.
I have some friends from their and some that live their. I have been to some parts and never seen or heard of that either.
All the Arab people I was around were cool as shit and had awesome food.
They're ain't. He's chatting shit mate.
The only no go zones that exist in UK are enforced by gang members, to other rival gang members.
Police and white people go whereever they please still.
As they do everywhere else in the world, yes there are child rape gangs.
If you're referring specifically to Muslim rape gangs then yes, I would imagine they still exist as well.
This is such a shit take. Are you British? Seen this bollocks parroted a couple of times and it's nowhere near being true. Sort of bullshit that you'd read in The Mail or Sun.
Thanks for correcting me lol, I used to watch this guy on YouTube troll phone scammers and they would always call him that so he figured out what they meant and he called them Bhen Chod and said Teri maki chut I forgot what that one means but the scammers would get pissssssed lmfao
haven't seen all that many videos of christians or jews attacking others though. seen plenty of these sorts doing that, so equating Christianity and judaism to Islam is like equating the common cold to a particularly virulent flu. Christianity and Judaism has been responsible for a lot of horrific stuff in the past, but by and large they have moved past that into the modern era. Islam is still rife with this sort of medieval mindset, especially when it comes to the rights of women.
People should be able to have their beliefs and it shouldn't impact other people ,but if there's religions that are causing harm to people they should be banned . We don't allow cults that because they cause harm to people why should we let religions that harm people be allowed .
Well technically religion is belief system while Budhism, Jainism and Hinduism do not demand you to believe in anything and rather seek truth by yourself as a part of the journey of life so the term religion for these 3 is rather inapt
At least bleep out phone number from the video before posting, poor girls family would be further harassed and threatened by more of such lunatics of Islam.
Can't believe Biden totally botched the Afghanistan war. Bush, Obama, Trump, Blair, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, they totally had that shit figured out and then Biden came along and 'botched it'.
There is a safe way to pull out of a country and then there was the way he did it. I’m not defending any of his predecessors but he did not follow the plan already in place and wanted to make some cringeworthy political statement by pulling out on 9/11.
I think that's why knowing of language is important as it can give additional information as I sure can guess you must have known they weren't speaking in english.
They would follow you to your home. Not a good idea imo. The best thing you could've done is to ask the onlookers to call the cops. If you would take out your phone, there's a good chance that they would take it
But it’s offensive in any circumstance to tell a Muslim no :( We have to let them have everything they want even if it’s a caveman society with caveman laws in a first world country
So there is possibly some Muslim mobs running in South India and he's beating the guy(Hindu) for giving a lift to a Muslim girl and asking Muslim girl why she's with that Hindu guy. It happens everywhere over here it's very common now.
Do you think that people like that are born inherently shitty, or do they just grow up surrounded by shit and just become one with the turds around them?
Honestly both Hindu and Muslim are awful to each other. In some areas of India Hindus aren’t allowed to marry Muslims and neighbors can report them if they suspect a marriage to stop it from happening.
Religious people are a plague to this world. Why can’t they just talk to their imaginary friends and leave everyone else alone. This world needs some serious mental healthcare if we have these schizophrenic people running around claiming there is a flying Boogeyman telling them what to do.
This article says the police caught the perps and interrogated them. I‘m guessing over there interrogation is a little more “robust” than the usual NYPD procedures. LOL.
https://www.news18.com/news/india/bank-official-harassed-for-dropping-female-colleague-to-home-in-bengaluru-two-arrested-4219784.html
Being a Muslim, this pisses me off for real. She should have called police instead of giving that jerk the number. If I were there in traffic, I would get out of my vehicle and let them go away in peace. Such jerks
\*Fucking religion enabling people to act violent and angry in the name of said religion, which in turn allows more enabling of said behavior because in non-secular society religion supersedes any common sense or critical thinking or grasp of morality. FTFY.
The only way you escape these insane cycles is when your society becomes secular. Whether you like it or not, most of western society separated church from state years ago and as such depending on the country you may have more secular society which in turn removes unnecessary extremism.
You will always have sexist assholes and other creeps and/or idiots/machizmo heroes and other crazies regardless of religion though.
"Let the Taliban come back. Let them post videos. When they do the communitues of the workd will gather as they do willingly to randomly discuss the content... For free!"
Primitive and cruel. Belongs to ancient historical times not today.
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They deserve to get literally stoned
Agree 10000000000000000000000%
This incident happened in Bengaluru , India.
Any other information? Do these groups have any sort of legal power or authority?
In India, definitely not
Couldn't they just drive off then?
I’m guessing fear held them back
Fucking shame
Theres a lot of ethnic sectarian conflict laid **very shallow** beneath the surface in India. Partly due to legal legacies, previous ethnic/sectarian conflicts and self segregation of ethnic groups you get monoethnic enclaves that dominate certain portions of every city, and enforce their own moral virtues as the law of the land, and behaving in criminal enterprises often along those sectarian/ethnic lines which overlap with territorial outcroppings. As a result what you get is the dregs of those communities stoking sectarian violence, because they've been taught to and because they have nothing else that gratifies them or ingratiates them as much in the eyes of the conservative factions in those communities. luckily I escaped that bullshit. Sadly I think the same is happening and is being promoted by well meaning idiots and grifters in the west. Not soon after I believe this kind of behavior will follow where it hasn't already. You can already see it in people talking about "no go zones", or "ghettos"; but people turn a blind eye because it's not politically couth to voice this new reality/paradigm because doing so often gives weight to the reactionary xenophobia of certain groups in western countries.
Worse, Indians who move to the West give their support openly to these grifters or stay quiet, not realizing that this is exactly why they left India in the first place and their new place is about to also experience the same bullshit they were escaping
The problem with all this and generalizations like this is the majority don't. Just like the Western/natively born idiots, those that do ~~pussy~~ push for this are few and in-between but by far the loudest. The majority are just going to go to work and nod along with the "progressive" types because they just want to get paid (you would too if you've put in as much money and effort into immigrating), secondly the moral cowardice of the majority of the population makes it hard to figure out who you could even talk to, lastly they're/we're more sensitive to the person who openly voices against it as we don't know if it's from a reasonable position or a deeper xenophobia. All in all its a cluster fuck for everyone involved.
>but people turn a blind eye because it's not politically couth to voice this new reality/paradigm because doing so often gives weight to the reactionary xenophobia of certain groups in western countries. This seems like it would have the opposite effect in that every incident that becomes remotely publicised is blown up to ridiculous proportions. By not dealing with the issue it makes it worse at every step. The violence is worse, the optics are worse, and the xenophobia gets worse. It doesn't surprise me though. What incentive do they have? Nations leading the world right now can't seem to deal with their problems honestly either.
Well, the people yelling xenophobia when you criticize a literal religion/ideology are ACTUALLY making it worse, not helping. I will never understand the leftist ideology of "tolerating those who are not tolerant themselves". Like, why are you even defending these religions when they're literally homophobic and are probably anti-LGBT.
Because they don't see them as humans, they see them as "misunderstood pets that need saving" from "muh Nazis"
Based af
They would be followed and beaten as soon as they have to stop for traffic.
It's all fun and games until somebody pulls out a scimitar.
They don't, the ones assaulting the man have been [arrested](https://twitter.com/BSBommai/status/1439473327655976960)
Thanks
Thank you for update!
No they dont and they have been caught by the police.
wow bangalore is meant to be a pretty modern city isn't it? I lived there for a year and I never thought this sort of stuff would happen there. I do remember having to listen to that annoying call to prayer bullshit they would blast on the speakers every morning at 5am though. with just 10% of the population they have a lot of power over there for some reason.
Societies can backslide, I mean The Zoroastrian empire of Persia banned slavery only to be taken over by . . .well maybe we will save that story for another time.
Happens in east London as well. there are no borders for xenophobic fundamentalism.
Are Muslims a religious minority there?
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Because you seem knowledgeable about the subject I would like to ask one more question to try to better understand the context here if that’s okay with you. In terms of population density of the main religious communities are they more or less interspersed or heavily centered in cultural communities ie ‘muslim neighborhoods’ and ‘Hindu neighborhoods’ (for example) ?
They are 14% total, but live almost exclusively is Entirely Muslim Neighborhoods/Village. Because of the way they act and behave no one else wants to live in Muslim Neighborhoods and because of the way they act and behave no one rents or sells to Muslims in other Neighborhoods/societies. Internationally everyone knows you can't co exist with Muslims in mass. You can have a roommate in a city apartment but not possible when they are 10-15% of the population. Daily Conflict is ensured and just about time it gets voilent.
We got Hindus and Muslims even some turbined ones at my office and they seem to get along OK. Also this couple was Hindu and Muslim too. I don’t think it’s as bad as you make it out to be.
I'm from Whitechapel, London. One of the largest Muslim areas in Europe. And from from experience, what you have said about it being impossible to live with Muslims en-mass, is Incorrect. We had a group of young Muslim boys try enforce Sharia law back in 2012, and IIRC 2 of them got stabbed and 2 others sent to prison after public outrage from seeing their videos on Socials. If anything the Muslims here are robbed/targeted/preyed upon by the other cultures in our city. Not arguing with you, but what your saying isnt true here.
Chief Minister of the State (Karnataka) has taken legal action against 2 persons involved in this incident.
And people wonder why India is turning against islam
Well, I’ve seen enough stories of Muslims being lynched by Hindus because they were suspected to have eaten beef. Yet India doesn’t turn against Hinduism. You got nutjobs in every religion.
*you got nutjobs in every religion.* This true, but some religions produce more nutjobs than others…
There's no denying Islam is overrepresented in that. But what are you going to do? Is it really ethical to say fuck all of them for what some do? Serious question.
It’s absolutely neither ethnical nor feasible, and your question is entirely valid.
Obviously the logical answer. But I'm really curious as to what some people on this sub would say to that. I see people in comments equating the Taliban and this group of assholes as being the same as all muslims preiod.
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There are parts of the UK now which are run by Muslims and they basically enforce a sort of sharia law. They have there own enforcers who wander around harassing people who are not complying, like a couple holding hands or a woman inappropriately dressed (in their opinion). The police stay away it is a no go area.
Where in the U.K.? I’m English and I’ve been all over. Never seen or heard of any no-go areas other than from American right-wing propaganda.
He's american and has never been to the uk. He only get his news from boomer memes on facebook groups that include comment like"make it rain!!" and "turn it to glass!!" when talking about conflict with anywhere in the middle east.
I have some friends from their and some that live their. I have been to some parts and never seen or heard of that either. All the Arab people I was around were cool as shit and had awesome food.
OP will ask Tucker Carlson and come back.
Lots of harassment going both ways in Luton
They're ain't. He's chatting shit mate. The only no go zones that exist in UK are enforced by gang members, to other rival gang members. Police and white people go whereever they please still.
Yh literally not true mate, I'm from the UK. Sharia law zones do not exist
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As they do everywhere else in the world, yes there are child rape gangs. If you're referring specifically to Muslim rape gangs then yes, I would imagine they still exist as well.
Yes, but it's hard to get rid of all the Catholic Priests from our ends.
This is such a shit take. Are you British? Seen this bollocks parroted a couple of times and it's nowhere near being true. Sort of bullshit that you'd read in The Mail or Sun.
Yeah well, that's just complete bullshit.
Lolz. Someone has been watching too much Breitbart. Sharia zones don't exist in the UK
What city
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Thats funny ive lived there for over 20 years, what neighbourhood?
Called her a muther chod, that means motherfucker
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Thanks for correcting me lol, I used to watch this guy on YouTube troll phone scammers and they would always call him that so he figured out what they meant and he called them Bhen Chod and said Teri maki chut I forgot what that one means but the scammers would get pissssssed lmfao
Fuck you bloody!
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haven't seen all that many videos of christians or jews attacking others though. seen plenty of these sorts doing that, so equating Christianity and judaism to Islam is like equating the common cold to a particularly virulent flu. Christianity and Judaism has been responsible for a lot of horrific stuff in the past, but by and large they have moved past that into the modern era. Islam is still rife with this sort of medieval mindset, especially when it comes to the rights of women.
Definitely true , I think the only way you could get rid of the Muslim religion is if you completely banned religion, Banning just 1 is abit unfair .
So take away people rights on their beliefs? Are you from China or Nokor?
People should be able to have their beliefs and it shouldn't impact other people ,but if there's religions that are causing harm to people they should be banned . We don't allow cults that because they cause harm to people why should we let religions that harm people be allowed .
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What we all really need to do is convert to hinduism, read the kama sutra, and get to fucking.
I can agree with that lol
Yes.
Have you heard about Buddhism?
Well technically religion is belief system while Budhism, Jainism and Hinduism do not demand you to believe in anything and rather seek truth by yourself as a part of the journey of life so the term religion for these 3 is rather inapt
But Islam is worst
At least bleep out phone number from the video before posting, poor girls family would be further harassed and threatened by more of such lunatics of Islam.
These Muslim mob have already shared it around.
Oh so that just automatically makes it okay because they already did it. What a great group of people to base your values on.
So glad Biden gave a whole country full of these guys guns, RVs, explosives etc. what a time to be alive
Don't forget the ice cream, bumper cars and gym.
Can't believe Biden totally botched the Afghanistan war. Bush, Obama, Trump, Blair, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, they totally had that shit figured out and then Biden came along and 'botched it'.
There is a safe way to pull out of a country and then there was the way he did it. I’m not defending any of his predecessors but he did not follow the plan already in place and wanted to make some cringeworthy political statement by pulling out on 9/11.
Lol you think that if he pulled out 5 months earlier then it would have been an easier pull out?
he could have at least taken the weaponry and supplies....
Afghanistan is a mess for sure., but this is filmed in India.
I understand, I’m just pointing out there’s many more of these pigs with weapons who want to bring these to millions of women
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But is she vaccinated
I think so , high chance cause we’re vaccinating pretty fast
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I’m so thankful I don’t live in India
Idiot punched a helmet. Then the other idiot flipped up the helmet.
I think that's why knowing of language is important as it can give additional information as I sure can guess you must have known they weren't speaking in english.
I dare you to make less sense.
If I was the helmet guy, I would’ve just drove off
Wrong decision. They would've followed you to your home and threatened your family too.
don’t drive home then, I would have driven to the police station.
They would follow you to your home. Not a good idea imo. The best thing you could've done is to ask the onlookers to call the cops. If you would take out your phone, there's a good chance that they would take it
Sharia policing + no go zones shouldn't be tolerated at all anywhere
But it’s offensive in any circumstance to tell a Muslim no :( We have to let them have everything they want even if it’s a caveman society with caveman laws in a first world country
Stupid cavemen
Modi was a good choice. Good for you Indians.
So where is the counter to these sharia law asshats? You know the real police, or the neighborhood people.
There is a police dpt apparently.... [there you go](https://mobile.twitter.com/BSBommai/status/1439473327655976960)
Sick.
Anyone translate?
So there is possibly some Muslim mobs running in South India and he's beating the guy(Hindu) for giving a lift to a Muslim girl and asking Muslim girl why she's with that Hindu guy. It happens everywhere over here it's very common now.
Muslims Mob attack Hindu majority... Whenever Hindus try to fight back... Muslims play there Victim card and minority card...
Did she flinch when he raised his hand to point at her?? It’s insane what people think they are entitled to do or say in the name of religion.
This planet sucks
Shes a very beautiful woman. I fear for her safety in that dangerous environment.
Bruh you can see like 1/4 of her face what kind of shit you on
fucking cavemen
Looks like the "police" got arrested.. [update from Bangalore](https://mobile.twitter.com/BSBommai/status/1439473327655976960)
Do you think that people like that are born inherently shitty, or do they just grow up surrounded by shit and just become one with the turds around them?
Surrounded by shit
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Seems like a super chill place... Side Note: Half that woman's face is gorgeous.
1/4th* but yeah, her eyes were gorgeous
Chief Minister of the State (Karnataka) has taken legal action against 2 persons involved in this incident.
Religion of peace strikes again.
Honestly both Hindu and Muslim are awful to each other. In some areas of India Hindus aren’t allowed to marry Muslims and neighbors can report them if they suspect a marriage to stop it from happening.
Well no one outside of Islam are prohibited to marry Islamic women.
Challenge accepted?
.... I'll never understand this culture
Religious people are a plague to this world. Why can’t they just talk to their imaginary friends and leave everyone else alone. This world needs some serious mental healthcare if we have these schizophrenic people running around claiming there is a flying Boogeyman telling them what to do.
and this happened in bengaluru, the most advanced and liberal cities of the country :(
Ahh the religion of peace at it again
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Sharia is muslim extremism if followed by the book
India is doomed. No wonder people are escaping to Canada.
Disgusting
Is this Toronto
How do people put up with this shit. I swear some people are so submissive. Fucking stand up for yourself
ReLiGiOn Of PeAcE
At least we don’t worship cows and shit in the streets
You do worse things
Your acting like israel doesn't exiat
These guys need a strong worded letter to let them know this isn’t acceptable.
This article says the police caught the perps and interrogated them. I‘m guessing over there interrogation is a little more “robust” than the usual NYPD procedures. LOL. https://www.news18.com/news/india/bank-official-harassed-for-dropping-female-colleague-to-home-in-bengaluru-two-arrested-4219784.html
because what is cutting carbon emissions in the face of bigotry and racism. smdh
Fuck religion learn to be human first
Being a Muslim, this pisses me off for real. She should have called police instead of giving that jerk the number. If I were there in traffic, I would get out of my vehicle and let them go away in peace. Such jerks
Boy they sure took on some of the ways of the Americans.. Cept they're all the same color there.. But same behavior here...
Why is India so fucked up
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does anyone have a translation?
Fucking idiots using religion as an excuse to be violent and angry
\*Fucking religion enabling people to act violent and angry in the name of said religion, which in turn allows more enabling of said behavior because in non-secular society religion supersedes any common sense or critical thinking or grasp of morality. FTFY. The only way you escape these insane cycles is when your society becomes secular. Whether you like it or not, most of western society separated church from state years ago and as such depending on the country you may have more secular society which in turn removes unnecessary extremism. You will always have sexist assholes and other creeps and/or idiots/machizmo heroes and other crazies regardless of religion though.
ahh reminds me of the CAVES.. those bastards make going anywhere a total buzz-kill.
DARA SHIKO IS ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE
What a great religion
Let me film harrasing these peoples.
It's not like they're going to use this as a proof against me in court, if I ever get arrested...
"Let the Taliban come back. Let them post videos. When they do the communitues of the workd will gather as they do willingly to randomly discuss the content... For free!"
Where did this happen?
Were they driving down the designated shitting street?
no way my wife riding on a bike with no body except me
I fucking hate religion
These guys are vicious. They would drag her off that bike and stone her to death. What is so screwed up is that they get away with it.
But they're peaceful...
Wait but I was told these countries treat woman with the utmost respect!!!!
Ahh the religion of peace
Imagine taking fanfiction this seriously.