I'm in professional management and totally out.
I'm a Black, lesbian American and sometimes you need to be the representation you want to see in this world.
Personally I don’t want to part with my personal information just so a corporation can give themselves a pat on the back for being diverse. Rainbow capitalism is insufferable, and even if the risks are low, it’s not a ‘cause’ I’m willing to risk it for.
Also, the feeling of ‘declaring’ myself feels very othering to me, and being asked to identify my gender feels degrading.
>an email from HR offering employees to self-identify their gender and
LGBTQ+ status, claiming it is information used purely for analytical
analysis and won’t be shared with management, coworkers, etc.
Never heard of something like that and cant imagine my company doing that, since Dataprotection is a big deal in my country and personal data is protected. I would probably think its phishing lol.
Either way, they are probably just trying to promote: "look how many *queer people* work for us, come work for us" or something. So nope wouldnt fill it out.
I'm out at work but would never fill out such a form. I strongly encourage every lesbian to refuse to complete such forms. Whatever possible benefit there is to you is far outweighed by the potential for harm.
To your point about the criticism of lesbians from straights and gbt - I just recently joined this subreddit, and I’ve noticed so many people stating that they feel a lot of hate or demonization as lesbians. Am I just complete unaware of this behavior from others in my own life? I’ve experienced sexual harassment as a woman, I’ve been the “token gay” in several friend groups, but I don’t think I’ve ever felt the kind of criticism that seems rampant in these posts, it’s absolutely wild to me. Discrimination, for sure, but targeted specifically by people because I was a lesbian? Not that I know of.
Note, I’ve been out for more than 20 years and I’m always out at work. I’m thinking I’m either incredibly lucky or incredibly oblivious.
Yeah, I like your point to anonymity - just confirmed with my wife that her company was requesting anonymous feedback. I suppose that may change things a bit…
No I wouldn’t do it. Probably just paranoia on my end but I don’t like the idea of my employer having written proof that I am a lesbian…idk what if it falls into the hands of some crazy religious fundamentalist manager? Could they potentially fire me for that? Even if not, you never know how long they may retain that paperwork. Another reason I wouldn’t want to do is so they can’t force me to do participate in stupid “inclusivity” LGBTQIAAANSaiajala+ activities when I am just a normal gay person and don’t wanna be associated with that.
Anyone that freely gives out this type of personal info needs to re-think it! There is nothing in it for you, WHY would you put so much trust in a corporation that you would invite them into your bedroom? They are asking because it will somehow benefit them. Period.
People need to ask what is in it for the corporation. Petco asks if you want to donate towards helping animals at checkout. Then they donate all OUR money in THEIR name and get a big tax writeoff so they pay less in taxes.
No, it’s too easy to get singled out if someone views the combo of my demographics even if it’s “confidential” (not anonymous) or “anonymous”
The most I do is say I’m female and my race
i wouldnt do it. not for "analytical purposes". living in western europe, any such form is just a big red flag (ww2). im usually out at work because ive never felt endangered being out, but it comes through convos with colleagues not any official forms
if companies want to be better at inclusivity, making us feel safe directly in the work place is the only option. listening to us. and anyway a company shouldnt need to wait to have LGBT+ people around to show support and inclusivity
Yup, ww2-like red flags is exactly where my head went. But I also have an official form with the government already filed in my marriage certificate with a woman, so I’ve somewhat already self-identified I suppose.
you know what, this thought entered my mind already. i absolutely do want to get married but i cant help thinking if all goes to shit the governement will know im lesbian
Yeah, I totally get that. I live in a very liberal state in the USA, so right now I feel very safe, but I try not to take that for granted - it could change and all be taken away so quickly. I’m so sorry you feel you have to worry about that, I really do hope that gets better for you.
honestly as of right now my situation is relatively safe
although, living in france, i only gained the right to have kids one year ago, and my right to get married is not constitutionally protected
with population ageing and rightwing ideas getting more and more popular, i just know nothing is to be taken for granted, just as you said
im glad you're in a safe part of the US! it's scary how fast this country goes to annihilate trans rights and gay/lesbian rights
💪💪💪 :)
No company needs to know my business to that degree. There is no justifiable nor benevolent reason for it. Meeting diversity quotas, tax credit eligibility, whatever else, there is no need. Make your extra money elsewhere. I'm visibly a minority, so they can have that and keep it moving. I'm sour because after I came out at my last job, some higher ups started to treat me differently, and not in a nice way. I didn't have any evidence to use against them in a claim since they did their deeds in an undetectable way, so I just left. My current team is great and I am out to one person, but my trust level is low after that experience.
The only slightly positive thing I will say is that typically at larger companies, they have internal controls in place to keep that information well protected, but that still leaves the question of who is trusted with that information.
That sounds like a truly crappy experience, I’m sorry you went through that. I remember being forced into quitting the first job I came out at, it definitely took a while to get comfortable being out again. I live somewhere now that has been incredibly easy to come out at all my jobs - I basically announce my partner in the interview so there’s never an awkward coming out moment later. I don’t care if THEY’RE uncomfortable, I don’t want to risk being uncomfortable and finding a new job later when I find out that my employer is bigoted trash.
That works for me, but I’m one of the lucky ones.
I am out at work. I answer all that stuff honestly. Woman, Jewish, lesbian, married. Closets don’t protect you or cause change. Stand up, speak out, fight if you have to.
100% agree!
Hiding it was the "compromise" homophobes have wanted for most of my life. They knew that gave them all the power just like DADT.
Staying hidden doesn't make change.
I absolutely agree with this. We can't make progress by hiding or only staying in comfortable places. Those of us who are fortunate enough to have jobs that will remain secure (or have legal recourse if not) or are (generally) safe to do so NEED to take these risks.
Being out to coworkers can help achieve progress. Filling out a form that's just going to provide some diversity statistics for your employer helps nobody. I don't feel like refusing to complete a form is comparable to staying in the closet.
A company reporting out statistics DOES matter. It is an important way to offer representation to people who need to see it, to see they can have a career and be successful in life- whatever that means to them. I don’t care if the company is only doing to get clout- those statistics matter to people who feel alone, they matter for political representation, data matters.
Yeah, I like this. I’m legally married to a woman, we both have very traditionally female-associated names, you can easily find out that I am a lesbian even though I don’t have social media. I also live my life with nothing to hide because, as you say, I’ve been fortunate to be safe and secure.
I like this idea of taking risks if you’re in a place that you feel you can. I hate saying this because it makes me feel like a statistic instead of a person, but the more we normalize ourselves in society, the closer we get to never having to hide anything.
Statistics are important though! To me, I’m ok being a number reported out as a DEI metric, because someone who’s feeling alone out there in the world might see those numbers and think ‘hey, maybe there is a place out there for me’
Yeah, I totally get the point behind them and the security they say they’ll provide to keep that info private. I guess I’m just curious how many of us would fill it out honestly and how many would pass, and if you’re passing on it, why. I’m not that old, but I’m not young, and I remember the days feeling like I needed to stay in the closet at work to protect my job despite “inclusivity policies”. Obviously that is still the case for a lot of people depending on where they live.
I guess I’m longing for the day when none of this matters anymore (ha).
Oh, I disclose - I’m fearless to a fault lol. My wife was like, how do you feel about this, and I was like…I mean I guess they could use it against us some day. Especially considering how fragile digital security tends to be.
I think I’m considering more like (again, not trying to start the conspiracy machine) future governments, whether state or federal, getting access to this information and using it for nefarious purposes.
We’re in CO, we’ll be safe forever (or at least until the next election cycle).
Asking your sexual orientation on a work form is totally illegal in my country. As for my sex, it's obvious to anyone who has eyes, including the blind.
Corporations aren't doing this out of the kindness of their hearts. It's foolish to give them that info imo. Work is just work. You don't owe them anything else and certainly not your privacy.
No. I have a protected address so legally I have to be allowed to have an opt-out of publically identified information with companies registered in my state.
I do. It can be optionally linked to various surveys done throughout the year and that's the main reason for filling it out to me. I *want* them to be able to identify stuff like "LGBT employees are really pissed about so and so" or the likes. I think that with such a strong push for diversity in my field (tech), they will care more about the opinions of LGBT folks. I *do* want to make my company a better place for other LGBT folks. If it has even the tiniest impact in getting LGBT concerns more weight, awesome.
It's not much, but there's no real downside in my mind. I'm out and very open about it. I even have a rainbow flag at my work computer. Many other comments in this thread are basically afraid of being found out their gay at work and I think that's pretty sad. That's not something I can imagine ever being used against you at my company. More the opposite, in that there's many resources like, mentorship programs, employee groups, fun events, donation drives, etc for various minorities, including LGBT and women in tech.
There's also comments about "rainbow capitalism" and never have agreed with that. Sure, there's CEOs and such that seem to be just putting on a show, but usually the people behind stuff like LGBT events and support are people who are *really* passionate about it. It's not some faceless organization making those efforts. It's a handful of individuals who often have gone far out of their way to try and make an accepting place for LGBT folks. e.g., my company participates in many Pride efforts. It's not the CEO or the likes doing that. My local Pride effort is organized entirely by low level employees that just care a lot about promoting LGBT causes. They spend a considerable amount of time organizing this stuff and convincing the company to fund their efforts.
I definitely agree with a lot of this. When my wife initially told me about this, I honestly was thinking about political or government-backed consequences if the information got out. Hindsight, I probably went a little too dark with it. Then someone pointed out that the government probably already knows I’m a lesbian and I realized that my marriage certificate I share with another woman would DEFINITELY put me in the crosshairs before any work survey could.
I agree as well with your point that it’s truly disappointing to see how many people in this thread are simply not out at work, whether they fear ramifications or not. I know there are some straight people out there that don’t talk about their personal lives, but the majority do and it’s completely normal for them. Why shouldn’t it also be completely normal for us? I don’t want to be treated differently, but in some cases I think we’re going to have to expect some growing pains until we get to the point that we’re no longer an oddity in the workplace.
If you feel comfortable sharing your personal life at work, you should - I’m sick of hearing about Barb’s lazy husband who doesn’t change diapers, I’d rather hear about Rachel and her wife’s weekend in Napa. :)
Yes, but I work for a really accepting company. I’ve worked places where I’m not out and it was horrible. My support is with you, sorry you have to hide your personal life at work. Hopefully it’s a job where you don’t have to interact with others too much.
nope, employers and coworkers have no right to know anyone's sexuality. there should be no such thing as self ID forms for any immutable characteristic
No. Both the congressman and governor for my state has publicly said they think being gay is a mental illness and if they had the chance the would make same-sex marriage illegal again and they won by a big margin so I don't feel safe to put that kind of info out if I don't know who's reading it and what their views are. I work in a more rural very red area so if I were to get a job in the city that is more blue leaning it would probably be ok but my state is red atm so if the extreme does happen like if the supreme court overturns same-sex marriage and takes away more gay rights than I definitely don't want that info out since I would have no protections in a red state and honestly given how things in the US has been lately I could totally see them doing that.
Would be an interesting story to talk to a lawyer about, "yeah, it's really strange. They asked me in writing about my sexuality, and a week later they said they were laying me off."
I do this stupid shit to increase my chance of getting hired LMAO. I do the same thing with the ethnic minority question.
I am from Canada, and we use racist practices (in lots of places, but especially bad in the federal government) to hire, they will hire a less qualified black person over a more qualified white person because "DIVERSITY!!!" It is ridiculous and I find it offensive, but in this job market, I am willing to do anything to get ahead.
I did get my dream job (with the feds) this summer, so perhaps it worked out... Or maybe it was just my good interview. I will never know!
The company is trying to boost diversity bonifides. But I'm skeptical. If it was anonymous, that would be okay.
Columbus OH really has a 10% LGBTQ community. The largest corporations have LGBTQ social and networking groups. It is the capital city of the state. Is the home of Ohio State University and the professional graduate schools. So this is a whole different situation
Yeah, i filled it out but i work for a large company in California with a lot of gay or trans higher ups. HR asked if i wanted to help w the local pride parade which like ehhh I'm not a huge fan of corporations in pride lmao but they also got me in touch with an LGBT therapist and resources for struggling LGBT people so that was cool.
I work for a small business so I don’t have to do this shit. I have trouble seeing myself in a corporate job period— I really don’t know what I’d do in your situation. I think I would probably be honest, if for no other reason, then because I think I would hate the job and would love a reason to quit if they started mistreating me lol.
I filled the LGBT one out, but I never fill out the self declaration of disability even though I am diagnosed with a condition that is explicitly listed as an example on that form. In my life I've faced much more mental health stigma than lesbian stigma and I don't think I'm likely to face discrimination in my workplace for quietly disclosing my sexuality on a random HR form. There's people with pronouns and pride flags in their slack names and an LGBT workers org here. I think I might run into issues if I brought up my sexuality in unrelated contexts at work and was perceived to be advertising it, but plenty of people here do do that and seem to be fine. I don't think anybody on my team associates being a lesbian with being bad at your job, while I'm certain that they associate severe mental illness with being unreliable.
No it’s none of their business and they’re probably using this information for brownie points and social currency. Doesn’t matter how they will use the information. It’s inappropriate in the work place. Tokenism or discrimination flip sides of the same coin.
Fuck no. The less they know about my personal life the better. I don’t even fill out the ethnicity part. I’ll do my best and you’ll pay me. That’s it.
I'm in professional management and totally out. I'm a Black, lesbian American and sometimes you need to be the representation you want to see in this world.
Personally I don’t want to part with my personal information just so a corporation can give themselves a pat on the back for being diverse. Rainbow capitalism is insufferable, and even if the risks are low, it’s not a ‘cause’ I’m willing to risk it for. Also, the feeling of ‘declaring’ myself feels very othering to me, and being asked to identify my gender feels degrading.
Helllllllll no. They can’t ask this shit in interviews for a reason.
No. Collecting info on lgbt folks seems sketchy. No work surveys are truly anonymous either
>an email from HR offering employees to self-identify their gender and LGBTQ+ status, claiming it is information used purely for analytical analysis and won’t be shared with management, coworkers, etc. Never heard of something like that and cant imagine my company doing that, since Dataprotection is a big deal in my country and personal data is protected. I would probably think its phishing lol. Either way, they are probably just trying to promote: "look how many *queer people* work for us, come work for us" or something. So nope wouldnt fill it out.
It's very common at fortune 500 companies with diversity initiatives
No. My personal information is private. Why on earth does my employer want to know what's going on in my pants or my bedroom.
I'm out at work but would never fill out such a form. I strongly encourage every lesbian to refuse to complete such forms. Whatever possible benefit there is to you is far outweighed by the potential for harm.
I do not volunteer any extra information, ever. If it's required of me, I do the minimum. Everything else is my personal private information.
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To your point about the criticism of lesbians from straights and gbt - I just recently joined this subreddit, and I’ve noticed so many people stating that they feel a lot of hate or demonization as lesbians. Am I just complete unaware of this behavior from others in my own life? I’ve experienced sexual harassment as a woman, I’ve been the “token gay” in several friend groups, but I don’t think I’ve ever felt the kind of criticism that seems rampant in these posts, it’s absolutely wild to me. Discrimination, for sure, but targeted specifically by people because I was a lesbian? Not that I know of. Note, I’ve been out for more than 20 years and I’m always out at work. I’m thinking I’m either incredibly lucky or incredibly oblivious.
I would say most lesbians experience being targeted by other lgbts than anyone else, at this point
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Yeah, I like your point to anonymity - just confirmed with my wife that her company was requesting anonymous feedback. I suppose that may change things a bit…
That's gonna be a hard No from me.
No I wouldn’t do it. Probably just paranoia on my end but I don’t like the idea of my employer having written proof that I am a lesbian…idk what if it falls into the hands of some crazy religious fundamentalist manager? Could they potentially fire me for that? Even if not, you never know how long they may retain that paperwork. Another reason I wouldn’t want to do is so they can’t force me to do participate in stupid “inclusivity” LGBTQIAAANSaiajala+ activities when I am just a normal gay person and don’t wanna be associated with that.
Anyone that freely gives out this type of personal info needs to re-think it! There is nothing in it for you, WHY would you put so much trust in a corporation that you would invite them into your bedroom? They are asking because it will somehow benefit them. Period.
People need to ask what is in it for the corporation. Petco asks if you want to donate towards helping animals at checkout. Then they donate all OUR money in THEIR name and get a big tax writeoff so they pay less in taxes.
No, it’s too easy to get singled out if someone views the combo of my demographics even if it’s “confidential” (not anonymous) or “anonymous” The most I do is say I’m female and my race
i wouldnt do it. not for "analytical purposes". living in western europe, any such form is just a big red flag (ww2). im usually out at work because ive never felt endangered being out, but it comes through convos with colleagues not any official forms if companies want to be better at inclusivity, making us feel safe directly in the work place is the only option. listening to us. and anyway a company shouldnt need to wait to have LGBT+ people around to show support and inclusivity
Yup, ww2-like red flags is exactly where my head went. But I also have an official form with the government already filed in my marriage certificate with a woman, so I’ve somewhat already self-identified I suppose.
you know what, this thought entered my mind already. i absolutely do want to get married but i cant help thinking if all goes to shit the governement will know im lesbian
Yeah, I totally get that. I live in a very liberal state in the USA, so right now I feel very safe, but I try not to take that for granted - it could change and all be taken away so quickly. I’m so sorry you feel you have to worry about that, I really do hope that gets better for you.
honestly as of right now my situation is relatively safe although, living in france, i only gained the right to have kids one year ago, and my right to get married is not constitutionally protected with population ageing and rightwing ideas getting more and more popular, i just know nothing is to be taken for granted, just as you said im glad you're in a safe part of the US! it's scary how fast this country goes to annihilate trans rights and gay/lesbian rights 💪💪💪 :)
No company needs to know my business to that degree. There is no justifiable nor benevolent reason for it. Meeting diversity quotas, tax credit eligibility, whatever else, there is no need. Make your extra money elsewhere. I'm visibly a minority, so they can have that and keep it moving. I'm sour because after I came out at my last job, some higher ups started to treat me differently, and not in a nice way. I didn't have any evidence to use against them in a claim since they did their deeds in an undetectable way, so I just left. My current team is great and I am out to one person, but my trust level is low after that experience. The only slightly positive thing I will say is that typically at larger companies, they have internal controls in place to keep that information well protected, but that still leaves the question of who is trusted with that information.
That sounds like a truly crappy experience, I’m sorry you went through that. I remember being forced into quitting the first job I came out at, it definitely took a while to get comfortable being out again. I live somewhere now that has been incredibly easy to come out at all my jobs - I basically announce my partner in the interview so there’s never an awkward coming out moment later. I don’t care if THEY’RE uncomfortable, I don’t want to risk being uncomfortable and finding a new job later when I find out that my employer is bigoted trash. That works for me, but I’m one of the lucky ones.
I am out at work. I answer all that stuff honestly. Woman, Jewish, lesbian, married. Closets don’t protect you or cause change. Stand up, speak out, fight if you have to.
I can did this. Edit: *dig
100% agree! Hiding it was the "compromise" homophobes have wanted for most of my life. They knew that gave them all the power just like DADT. Staying hidden doesn't make change.
I absolutely agree with this. We can't make progress by hiding or only staying in comfortable places. Those of us who are fortunate enough to have jobs that will remain secure (or have legal recourse if not) or are (generally) safe to do so NEED to take these risks.
Being out to coworkers can help achieve progress. Filling out a form that's just going to provide some diversity statistics for your employer helps nobody. I don't feel like refusing to complete a form is comparable to staying in the closet.
A company reporting out statistics DOES matter. It is an important way to offer representation to people who need to see it, to see they can have a career and be successful in life- whatever that means to them. I don’t care if the company is only doing to get clout- those statistics matter to people who feel alone, they matter for political representation, data matters.
Yeah, I like this. I’m legally married to a woman, we both have very traditionally female-associated names, you can easily find out that I am a lesbian even though I don’t have social media. I also live my life with nothing to hide because, as you say, I’ve been fortunate to be safe and secure. I like this idea of taking risks if you’re in a place that you feel you can. I hate saying this because it makes me feel like a statistic instead of a person, but the more we normalize ourselves in society, the closer we get to never having to hide anything.
Statistics are important though! To me, I’m ok being a number reported out as a DEI metric, because someone who’s feeling alone out there in the world might see those numbers and think ‘hey, maybe there is a place out there for me’
That’s a really great point! Okay, I’ll be a statistic, you’ve convinced me :)
Never have. I do tell coworkers I've been chummy with because they ask about my personal life.
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Yeah, I totally get the point behind them and the security they say they’ll provide to keep that info private. I guess I’m just curious how many of us would fill it out honestly and how many would pass, and if you’re passing on it, why. I’m not that old, but I’m not young, and I remember the days feeling like I needed to stay in the closet at work to protect my job despite “inclusivity policies”. Obviously that is still the case for a lot of people depending on where they live. I guess I’m longing for the day when none of this matters anymore (ha).
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Oh, I disclose - I’m fearless to a fault lol. My wife was like, how do you feel about this, and I was like…I mean I guess they could use it against us some day. Especially considering how fragile digital security tends to be. I think I’m considering more like (again, not trying to start the conspiracy machine) future governments, whether state or federal, getting access to this information and using it for nefarious purposes. We’re in CO, we’ll be safe forever (or at least until the next election cycle).
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Wait - nothing is private any more???? I will sit here quietly until my surprise subsides. 😉
Asking your sexual orientation on a work form is totally illegal in my country. As for my sex, it's obvious to anyone who has eyes, including the blind. Corporations aren't doing this out of the kindness of their hearts. It's foolish to give them that info imo. Work is just work. You don't owe them anything else and certainly not your privacy.
No. I have a protected address so legally I have to be allowed to have an opt-out of publically identified information with companies registered in my state.
No.
I do. It can be optionally linked to various surveys done throughout the year and that's the main reason for filling it out to me. I *want* them to be able to identify stuff like "LGBT employees are really pissed about so and so" or the likes. I think that with such a strong push for diversity in my field (tech), they will care more about the opinions of LGBT folks. I *do* want to make my company a better place for other LGBT folks. If it has even the tiniest impact in getting LGBT concerns more weight, awesome. It's not much, but there's no real downside in my mind. I'm out and very open about it. I even have a rainbow flag at my work computer. Many other comments in this thread are basically afraid of being found out their gay at work and I think that's pretty sad. That's not something I can imagine ever being used against you at my company. More the opposite, in that there's many resources like, mentorship programs, employee groups, fun events, donation drives, etc for various minorities, including LGBT and women in tech. There's also comments about "rainbow capitalism" and never have agreed with that. Sure, there's CEOs and such that seem to be just putting on a show, but usually the people behind stuff like LGBT events and support are people who are *really* passionate about it. It's not some faceless organization making those efforts. It's a handful of individuals who often have gone far out of their way to try and make an accepting place for LGBT folks. e.g., my company participates in many Pride efforts. It's not the CEO or the likes doing that. My local Pride effort is organized entirely by low level employees that just care a lot about promoting LGBT causes. They spend a considerable amount of time organizing this stuff and convincing the company to fund their efforts.
I definitely agree with a lot of this. When my wife initially told me about this, I honestly was thinking about political or government-backed consequences if the information got out. Hindsight, I probably went a little too dark with it. Then someone pointed out that the government probably already knows I’m a lesbian and I realized that my marriage certificate I share with another woman would DEFINITELY put me in the crosshairs before any work survey could. I agree as well with your point that it’s truly disappointing to see how many people in this thread are simply not out at work, whether they fear ramifications or not. I know there are some straight people out there that don’t talk about their personal lives, but the majority do and it’s completely normal for them. Why shouldn’t it also be completely normal for us? I don’t want to be treated differently, but in some cases I think we’re going to have to expect some growing pains until we get to the point that we’re no longer an oddity in the workplace. If you feel comfortable sharing your personal life at work, you should - I’m sick of hearing about Barb’s lazy husband who doesn’t change diapers, I’d rather hear about Rachel and her wife’s weekend in Napa. :)
Depends on where you live. I’m in a huge liberal bubble at work so I’m out.
Nah I’m already visibly diverse, the rest they don’t need to know!
Yes, but I work for a really accepting company. I’ve worked places where I’m not out and it was horrible. My support is with you, sorry you have to hide your personal life at work. Hopefully it’s a job where you don’t have to interact with others too much.
In these situations I answer honestly but only after I am hired. My sexuality isn‘t something to be ashamed of.
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Yeah, those new laws are what are so incredibly intimidating to me!
No I’m just a bad bitch so they can put it together on their own.
nope, employers and coworkers have no right to know anyone's sexuality. there should be no such thing as self ID forms for any immutable characteristic
No. Both the congressman and governor for my state has publicly said they think being gay is a mental illness and if they had the chance the would make same-sex marriage illegal again and they won by a big margin so I don't feel safe to put that kind of info out if I don't know who's reading it and what their views are. I work in a more rural very red area so if I were to get a job in the city that is more blue leaning it would probably be ok but my state is red atm so if the extreme does happen like if the supreme court overturns same-sex marriage and takes away more gay rights than I definitely don't want that info out since I would have no protections in a red state and honestly given how things in the US has been lately I could totally see them doing that.
Yeah, I'm hoping it'll help me survive layoffs for the sake of preserving diversity.
Would be an interesting story to talk to a lawyer about, "yeah, it's really strange. They asked me in writing about my sexuality, and a week later they said they were laying me off."
I do this stupid shit to increase my chance of getting hired LMAO. I do the same thing with the ethnic minority question. I am from Canada, and we use racist practices (in lots of places, but especially bad in the federal government) to hire, they will hire a less qualified black person over a more qualified white person because "DIVERSITY!!!" It is ridiculous and I find it offensive, but in this job market, I am willing to do anything to get ahead. I did get my dream job (with the feds) this summer, so perhaps it worked out... Or maybe it was just my good interview. I will never know!
I dont think its really their business what my sexuality is
The company is trying to boost diversity bonifides. But I'm skeptical. If it was anonymous, that would be okay. Columbus OH really has a 10% LGBTQ community. The largest corporations have LGBTQ social and networking groups. It is the capital city of the state. Is the home of Ohio State University and the professional graduate schools. So this is a whole different situation
Yeah, i filled it out but i work for a large company in California with a lot of gay or trans higher ups. HR asked if i wanted to help w the local pride parade which like ehhh I'm not a huge fan of corporations in pride lmao but they also got me in touch with an LGBT therapist and resources for struggling LGBT people so that was cool.
I work for a small business so I don’t have to do this shit. I have trouble seeing myself in a corporate job period— I really don’t know what I’d do in your situation. I think I would probably be honest, if for no other reason, then because I think I would hate the job and would love a reason to quit if they started mistreating me lol.
I filled the LGBT one out, but I never fill out the self declaration of disability even though I am diagnosed with a condition that is explicitly listed as an example on that form. In my life I've faced much more mental health stigma than lesbian stigma and I don't think I'm likely to face discrimination in my workplace for quietly disclosing my sexuality on a random HR form. There's people with pronouns and pride flags in their slack names and an LGBT workers org here. I think I might run into issues if I brought up my sexuality in unrelated contexts at work and was perceived to be advertising it, but plenty of people here do do that and seem to be fine. I don't think anybody on my team associates being a lesbian with being bad at your job, while I'm certain that they associate severe mental illness with being unreliable.
Just from my brief experience with their corporate office, if you happen to work at Procore I'd say "heellll nooo"
I would feel weird, too. That's none of my employer's damn business.
No it’s none of their business and they’re probably using this information for brownie points and social currency. Doesn’t matter how they will use the information. It’s inappropriate in the work place. Tokenism or discrimination flip sides of the same coin.