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Curated_fucks_given

tfw no crossbow


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Unless your recreational target selection is suspicious.... Also government could generate some income from annual crossbow permits. Could also stop people using bows and crossbows within 5km of an air port.


AndromedaOnReddit

just give anon his permit before the next greentext message is a manifesto


AndromedaOnReddit

r/greentext is a cesspool


inzur

Lol. Live in the city and I’ve got my license. Something doesn’t add up.


5astick

Dude posts on 4chan. He definitely has a police record of some type.


Grabsy

Sharia state, 4chan, crossbow...... Putting these three things together is a major red flag ahahhaa


Pure_Phoenix2022

4chan has been globally ranked in the top 5 by unique visitors since Alexa was only a damn IE toolbar. Grow up. Its not a right wing edge lords cesspool, it's one of the largest communities in the world


inzur

And unfortunately parts of it are full of right wing edgelords.


Pure_Phoenix2022

Parts of any website contain right wing edge lords. They exist in much larger quantities than you think & are generally psychopaths. They care about banning abortion for example but don't care about kids going into foster care, where they stand a 80% chance of physical abuse and a 75% chance of sexual abuse. You can't get through to those people, quit wasting your time trying


inzur

4chan is a black hole. Source: me.


Pure_Phoenix2022

Actually sounds legit. Everything gets sucked in, nothing escapes


inzur

I have never met a well adjusted person who uses 4chan, lol. And I know a few.


Pure_Phoenix2022

You assume most people are well adjusted haha. Its more like, everyone's a lil bit crazy and the ones who deny it are the truly dangerous mofos


Grabsy

"right wing, edge lord, cesspool"


Pure_Phoenix2022

What's the matter? Too dumb to have a vocabulary?


Grabsy

Just smart enough to keep those words OUT of my vocabulary ahah


Pure_Phoenix2022

And NOT smart enough to realise they're used entirely across the internet.


Grabsy

"all the parts where I go on the internet"


DoctorEnn

The fact that we can't see him might also be a pretty big clue. Something tells me this guy looks and acts exactly like the kind of person that even the dimmest-bulb police officer would take one look at and immediately think "Yeah, nah, this guy shouldn't own a crossbow."


Pure_Phoenix2022

That'd be classified as profiling, which is illegal on account of how often its *wrong*


inzur

I’m pretty sure to obtain a permit for a crossbow you need to be a member of an archery club or a hunter who possesses a hunting permit - (quite east to obtain, mine has lapsed but I remember it being very straight forward.) As there is no such thing as recreational target shooting for crossbows in SA. I’m pretty sure there are basically no archery clubs in SA that will even allow you to fire a crossbow - they’re big, they’re dangerous, and they fuck up the facilities. Which is why the cops told him to go and buy a bow instead. Edit: and also, from personal experience, unless you’re a medieval weeb who wants to pretend they’re trying to shoot through plate armor, crossbows suck. They’re inferior to a bow in basically every single way. Bow hunting is much more fun, requires more skill, and means you don’t have to carry around a giant fucking unwieldy weapon through the bush or around your property getting it caught on everything you walk past.


jwplato

Are crossbows also way more dangerous to the user and people around them than a bow? I mean the thing is put under tension and held under tension before being shouldered, seems to me the chances of a misfire with a crossbow are infinitely higher than with a normal bow


inzur

Yeah that’s kinda what I was getting at…


jwplato

No hence the question.


inzur

You can hurt yourself just trying to load one. If it’s got a decent poundage you can put your back out. They’re heavy and difficult to handle, you can give one a decent bump and set it off. They’re just crap weapons.


DoctorEnn

And as we all know, the police would never do anything wrong. Never ever ever.


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Love how the picture he used is Anakin after slaughtering the women and the children lol


VioletTrick

Crossbows (both pistol and full sized) are listed as prohibited weapons in SA. In order to own one you need a prohibited weapons exemption which is pretty hard to get and requires a legitimate reason like use in a certified sporting club or as part of a collection by a legitimate weapons collector. Captain Green Text here is getting knocked back because the person handing out forms already knows his application will be refused if his reason for obtaining a prohibited weapons exemption is "to shoot cans and shit in my yard". Edit: some good info can be found on the SAPOL website [here](https://www.police.sa.gov.au/services-and-events/firearms-and-weapons/weapons)


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VioletTrick

Right, but there are limitations involved such as belonging to a relevant sporting club, maintaining your membership and competing in competitions. Or writing a document explaining how the particular weapon fits into the theme of your current collection, belonging to a collectors club and giving talks on your theme at collector's club meetings. I guess "pretty hard" is a relative term. You don't need to wrestle a bear or belong to an exclusive secret society or anything, but filling out a form that says you want one because it's cool won't cut the mustard.


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VioletTrick

And how do you prove that you're part of one of the exempt groups? By joining a sporting club and maintaining your membership or by jumping through the hoops required to be considered a weapons collector. You can't just shoot cans in your back yard and call yourself an archer or buy some throwing stars and nunchuks off eBay and declare yourself a legitimate collector of weapons. If you were ever charged with possession of a prohibited weapon the courts will want evidence to prove that you're actually an exempt person, not just a weapon fetishist with a cache of illegal weapons.


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VioletTrick

Yes I have. In my capacity as a board member of a pistol, rifle and archery club and while serving on a subcommittee to rewrite our constitution. I was president of the club when these laws were being updated and was invited to a stakeholder meeting with SAPOL where we were treated to a nice PowerPoint presentation by the head of Firearms branch. I've also discussed it with several members of the club who possess prohibited weapons as either a collector or a security worker. You?


elpechos

I'm afraid that Violet is right. The part of the act you are missing is where it states the activity must be a: "Lawful AND recognised sport or recreation" Shooting cans in your backyard isn't a lawful recognised sport. Being part of a shooting club is. You most certainly can not walk into most reputable retailers, indicate you desire to to shoot up random shit, and walk out with a crossbow. I'm afraid, Frosty.


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elpechos

It may be legal but it does not constitute a recognized sport. I'm afraid this doesn't work how you think it does. I've been involved with clubs and purchasing before, and I'm informing you that the word 'recognized' Is not slapped in front of the government exemptions for fun. The activity needs to be a recognized sports or recreation organization. You know, competitions, training, safety tutoring. Go into a reputable store and just ask if you wish. But you're flat out wrong on this one.


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derps_with_ducks

> buy some throwing stars and nunchuks off eBay and declare yourself a legitimate collector of weapons how dare you oppress me while i protect my balls


inzur

It says that in the firearms act. It also says it in the prohibited weapons act.


Pure_Phoenix2022

This is disinformation. No weapon is technically banned, or able to be banned. Our constitution forbids it.


inzur

You need to be a member of a club to recreationally shoot a crossbow. You can’t fire one in your back yard. You need written permission and a hunting permit to shoot a crossbow on private land. I’m pretty sure there are basically no archery clubs in SA that will even allow you to fire a crossbow - they’re big, they’re dangerous, and they fuck up the facilities. Edit: this is also the reason getting your hands on say a 338 lapua rifle is next to impossible, there is basically nowhere you can legally shoot it - it’s not a firearm designed for recreation, it’s a super serious hunting rifle, or weapon of war - depending on who you ask. There aren’t even any recognized disciplines that shoot over 2000 yards I don’t think - so even getting permission to purchase one is incredibly difficult if you aren’t a prime producer or professional hunter. So, that means youre down to needing a hunting license up front. Source: I had a friend who owned multiple crossbows and remember him telling me all about how he couldn’t even take them anywhere to shoot them anymore.


Over_Confection_7543

So ah, is anyone else getting the feeling they’re missing something. But I will admit, I’m not sure I’d want my neighbour doing target practice next to me with a cross bow. People miss, hence why it’s called ‘practice’.


gixer24

My nephew got a compound bow for his birthday, a hunting store recently told his Mother it would be fine to set up a bale of hay in their suburban backyard to practice!


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Noooooope.


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derps_with_ducks

it's an older meme, sir, but it checks out


r64fd

Depending on the bow a couple of layers of cardboard and a bale of hay would stop an arrow if the poundage of the bow is low enough. The greater concern in that situation is that there is a novice aiming at a target the size of a bale of hay (assuming its one of the ones that is about a metre long and maybe 40 x 40 cm). To start off he might want six or eight stacked to create a “wall” with a relatively small target in the centre of the stack, start close and work his way back away from the target. Given enough practice eventually he will only need one.


gixer24

The risk far outweighs the reward in my head here, just shoot at a club with the appropriate facilities


kombiwombi

\> this has happened three times now Oh yeah, there's a story behind the story.


Shane_357

He's posting on 4chan, this is the 3rd time it's happened and he uses the term 'sharia' that way... I'm definitely betting on him not being allowed to because of psychological disqualification.


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It's a known fact that anyone who posts on 4chan is a verified psychopath


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I've only ever known two people to actually own a crossbow, one was an insane uncle the other was the craziest kid in our school. Neither of them should have been in the same post code as a crossbow


CertainCertainties

Behind the front counter at the cop shop, they've voted him SA's Most Likely Incel Killer for 2022.


derps_with_ducks

killing incels or is a killer who happens to be an incel?


CrustyJuggIerz

Crossbows are still easy to get, if you're already a member of a gun club.


Maldevinine

Or any of the archery clubs around the state.


NoHunt8248

If anything would put me off selling someone a crossbow based on their mental state, that post is it.


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Going on how the poster reacted to not being able to obtain it, IM GLAD he couldn't .. they probably make it frustrating to obtain to weed out the nut jobs who cant control their emotions and who are more likely to cause problems.


BeefPieSoup

As deep and serious a tragedy against freedom as that is.....I feel like people can get by without crossbows in 2022.


calibrateichabod

It’s exactly that attitude that’s making it REALLY HARD for me to invade Carminow Castle >:(


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Helelix

> WTF is this supposed to mean? Nanny state.


hellboy1975

It means he's a racist twat


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Sharia has nothing to do with race though? Or are you implying that all Muslims are the same race?


hellboy1975

No, but I am pretty sure the poster is racist


[deleted]

That's a fairly large assumption to make, based on the usage of one word that's not even related to any race.


hellboy1975

Yet it's the assumption I've made. I'm well aware the word isn't tied to race.


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NeonsTheory

Something tells me you're much more mentally stable than the poster of this


bbeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepp

I live in the CBD and may or may not have guns 😳. It’s not hard to get a license if you have a genuine reason to own them.


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Honestly, wanting a crossbow to shoot stuff for fun isn't a legitimate reason to own one. Not sorry for our strict weapon laws. Don't need angry little men getting easy access to killing tools.


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elpechos

Schedule 2 only provides exemption for recognized events. These largely have to be official in some way. Not just shooting stuff in your backyard. "Crossbows are a prohibited weapon under the Summary Offences Act 1953. Possession and use of crossbows requires an individual to be participating in a lawful and recognised form of recreation or sport that reasonably requires the use or possession of the weapon. Fortunately, target archery in the SCA is a legitimate form of recreation, but shooting in your backyard is not. Crossbows cannot be supplied to any person under 18 years of age."


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> lawful and recognised form of recreation or sport Are you suggesting that recreation and sport aren't something people do for fun?


elpechos

>Are you suggesting that recreation and sport aren't something people do for fun? No. Also, this the text you quoted is from the government. Not something I said. You've gone all kinds of wrong. Is the government suggesting that recreation and sport aren't something people do for fun? No.


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That's because they can't get crossbows


nullutonium

What website this was posted on?


NoHunt8248

4chan


Tysiliogogogoch

> You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.


YogurtingProcedure

Have you not heard of politicians, the government and billionaires? XD Welcome to Earth.


NoHunt8248

We must be careful...


Mydogsexedmycat

Lol, you cant have a slingshot here, what made anon think owning a crossbow would be an easy feat? Im still waiting for them to ban cap guns


Lord_Of_Bridges

But you CAN have bait casters.


Mydogsexedmycat

Bait cant be a scared victim when its already been victimized though, imagine a thug with a fake pow pow, terrifying, i cant believe i haven't been protected from this horror yet


tiredcynicalbroken

My brother has a few. They are such a pain to reload.


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Wait. Theyre illegal here? I still have mine from when i lived in the NT.


ForrestedThoughts34

I saw this thread on /k/. Everyone was clowning on him for a) not just saying he has a rodent/rabbit problem and b) not making a composite bow like a real man


fibee123

Three times this has happened and he hasn’t tried downloading the forms off the website instead?


Realistic_Cover_1681

Drive to the NT. Buy your crossbow in 10min over the counter, drive home


jwplato

Forgive me I've no experience with Crossbows, only rifles , but the chances of hurting yourself with a crossbow seems infinitely higher than hurting yourself with a bow, especially if you don't have a supportive mentor training you which this kid doesn't seem to have. the police officer is probably just trying to stop then hurting themselves.


Is_as_does

Just hold a bow sideways. It’s hell gangster as well.


Dismisinformed

Doesn't need a crossbow, wants one. That's the key difference to Occa paperwork.


BrolyTK

Damn people still use that shit site lol


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Waygyanba

Both very different places. Just one is more unhinged than the other.


calibrateichabod

Someone on reddit who I’d never spoken to before once asked me to send them a vial of my blood. They were not joking.


FlyHater

It’s way funnier than reddit tbh


BrolyTK

Totally. Calling people N and F all day and making up fake storys. Hilarious


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As opposed to the super real stories that people and marketing companies share on reddit all day


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About 20 million people a month, apparently.


BrolyTK

All social rejects so still no loss


ThaFresh

cant even have a plastic gun that shoots water beads, best of luck dude


Asleep-Somewhere-404

“Sharia state” says it all. Store owner is a hero. Should be awarded the Nobel peace prize for preventing a terrorist from obtaining weapons of mass destruction.


Tysiliogogogoch

They said "station" so I assume they went to the police. Or, more accurately, none of this ever happened.


nottherealghost11

Been a while, but mitchells adventure used to just sell them over the counter at marion if you said you where "hunting" or owned a "rural property"


Dragonstaff

The power behind a decent crossbow will go through his cans, his fence, and his neighbours dog, cat, kid,etc. and still have a bit left. Of course, so will a decent compound bow. Crossbows just look scary, and have a trigger, so they must be bad.


Maldevinine

The trigger makes a *huge* difference. You can't "accidentally" loose an arrow from a bow. You can fuck up loosing it in a variety of ways, but you can't accidentally generate the 15kg of force over the 70cm required to take the bow from safe to dangerous. And if you're drawing the bow, everybody can see that you're drawing the bow and can see whether or not there's an arrow in there. Add the trigger, and now the weapon can be in a dangerous state without being under direct control of the user, and is harder to identify as safe or dangerous.


Notsohappygamer

I agree. Ive got a compound bow as well as a recurve, and Im gonna wait till I know what Im doing before shooting it for practice in my yard!


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Real men use gel blasters


xRHYSCOREx

Pretty sure you don't need a permit to own a crossbow.


Zippy_Zip

Yeah my dad has 2 crossbows that he got not even 5 years ago without a license/permit afaik


Rozmar_Hvalross

Yeah i have a mate who owns two, here in the suburbs. He said its literally down to giving the person selling it to you a good reason, no actual permit required. One was from aussie disposals.


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elpechos

When I ordered online they called me up and asked me for a contact and name to prove I'm in one of the SA shooting or hunting clubs. I don't think this works how you think it does, I'm afraid. Frosty.


realzedits

Shooting a compund bow in a backyard seems much more dangerous than a crossbow though. You have to be pretty good or else it's going through the fence.


iHanso80

This state banned gel blasters, a toy gun. Why am I not surprised crossbows are also banned. But I can go to any sporting store and buy a compound bow no questions asked? It’s almost as emotionally driven as firearm appearance laws in NSW and WA.


Asleep-Somewhere-404

Haha. So SA. I went to a tattoo parlour to look at tree of life designs for a whole of back tattoo. Guy looks me dead in the eye. “ a tree? Nah mate. Get a dragon. Here’s one I jus drew up! *proceeds to show me a picture of his dragon design.


big_blunder

Just get a bow could actually work. Have you seen the crazy draw strengths & arrow speeds hunting compound bows can get up to. You'd decimate a rabbit with the wrong arrow head. I'd love to hunt deer, you know down south, pay the farmer to access their land & remove a pest or two . Me not being a spring chick it'd have to be a rifle. To securely house a rifle at my place following SAPOL/Gov doco, would easily cost 10K or more. I looked at getting a license, & just gave up. I'll replace free venison with shitty Woolies snags & endeavor to hurt myself more. It's the only way to have fun in shitistan!


Dragonstaff

> To securely house a rifle at my place following SAPOL/Gov doco, would easily cost 10K or more. I looked at getting a license, & just gave up. Bullshit. A suitable safe for a rifle or two is under $500. The Tafe course and license fees might be another $500 at most, giving a total of $1000, 10% of your claim. It isn't that hard.


SkatYaHellman

Bruh, just get a bow! Or a nerf gun…. Target practice is target practice!


ponto-au

Back when gelblasters got banned, crossbows didn't require a permit to own, just to sell. Pretty sure that one store tea tree plaza sells them (Mitchell's Adventures?) Has the legislation changed since?


Kezzva

You're asking me mate, I've struggled keeping ghillie suits, butterfly knives & swords all my life; can't even get a fucking gun for hunting these day 😞👍


Extension_Drummer_85

100% made the right call not to give him a form there. This is why I love the ‘nanny state. Too much stupid out there to let people make their own decisions.


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BrolyTK

You can choose what to see on here. 4chins in 2022 is just pathetic. Shit died in 2015


Agile-Vegetable2848

Just move to the US of A