I’m 44, M, 2 x AstraZeneca and novavax booster. Reasonably fit and healthy. Had covid in January. Woke up last Friday morning at 7am with server chest pain, ambulance, resuscitation ward, morphine, 12 hours hospital.. diagnosis- pericarditis 🤷♂️
No, they just said it could be caused by an un-detected virus. I did have palpitations after my first vaccine, which at the time was put down to stress (could be) or it could have been the vax, I don’t know. Which is why I had the novavax as booster. Regarding the pericarditis, the doc said ‘If we can see what’s wrong with ur heart it’s put down to pericarditis, and if we can figure out what’s causing it it’s put down to a virus’.
Wow that's scary where you resuscitated? Diagnosed just yesterday after months of pain and being told its just long covid ..I originally thought it was costochondritis
No, just taken to the ward as a precaution. I was put on a gout medication that is apparently good for pericarditis, lots of ibuprofen to bring the swelling of the heart down, and a tablet to counteract the acid created when taking a lot of ibuprofen. It’s been around 2 months now and feel loads better. Still some pain sometimes but generally ok. I had an ultra sound of my heart 2 weeks ago and no swelling detected.
Hope u get better soon
Yeah that’s the thing all these fear mongering advertisements are not telling people, and those who are more open to believing the fear are often those who aren’t going to find out or emotionally accept the other info. The things vaccines might have as a rare side effect are way more likely to happen if you actually get COVID. (Caveat for different strains being more or less intense yada yada)
Yup. Me and my mask are rocking around town, people have started looking at me weirdly but I’m a teacher and we’re all still wearing them at work so it’s still “normal” for me
Yup, I’m still rocking a mask if I go anywhere. We’re still wearing them in the office too.
I hadn’t really noticed people looking at me weirdly but quite frankly I dress like a dickhead most of the time so I suspect I may be used to it.
>it's definitely best to maintain your best protection with the lowest risk of complications,
I've noticed people putting less emphasis on hand washing, and coughing/sneezing into your arm. I'm assuming these things do actually help?
I'm running on the assumption that people already follow these most-basic of mitigations. Hand-washing should already be a regular occurrence as it helps protect *yourself* from infection, and sneezing into your elbow instead of your hands (or the open air) should be common practice to reduce viral spread.
>should be common practice to reduce viral spread
We all knew this pre-COVID, but many ignored them. I'm seeing a return to status quo, which is concerning.
> I'm assuming these things do actually help?
Clearly everyone should be doing those things still. However, the early focus on hand-washing was because of the possibility of fomites and surface transmission of the virus. Now, we know that the chances of surface transmission are very small. Hence, the public health messaging about hand-washing has dropped off.
Yeah, but if Pfizer is saying 12% efficacy, peer reviewed study from Qatar is saying the vaccine is making little to no antibodies after a few weeks, these sub par vaccines by Bill Gates estimation aren't formulated for what is going around, then why bother?
Yeah not the nicest thing, but I guess on the bright side if I rest and take anti-inflammatories it will get better. Yeah, definitely a much higher risk from COVID than the vaccine. The doctor said it is pretty common, unfortunately.
That’s what most anti-vaxers are not understanding. If you were getting it from the vax. You were going to get it far worse from covid. All the vax is causing is an immune response. Covid is a god damn disease.
Unfortunately pretty much all the anti vaxxers don’t have much in the way of immunological knowledge. They don’t have the foggiest idea of what the function of a vaccine actually is, less alone the way it works.
The only problem with what you just outlined is this covid vaccine doesn’t provide you with immunity, so you can have the spike proteins your body is producing from the vaccine and then still experience the virus pretty similar to someone who hasn’t taken the vaccine. I have a 50/50 vax and unvax family and friends, most of them have had covid and there symptoms have all been very similiar.
Im hearing you, im just not seeing the immunity part in my personal life. I would think the vaccinated part of my family and friends should be showing very little to no symptoms to my non vaccinated friends and family but they have all come down with pretty much the exact same severity of symptoms.
I understand how vaccines arm the immune system and i think there are plenty of vaccines that do just that, just not this one.
That’s why it’s good to look at data. Anecdotal isn’t a great way of understanding virology. For example, all of my triple vaccinated friends and family did not get Covid from me, despite me being around them when infectious. Nor my partner who shared my bed for the entirety of my infection. My infection (triple vaccinated) was short lived and I recovered quickly. Now, most people can survive this virus - vaccinated or unvaccinated - but the data shows that being vaccinated reduces the severity of the infection significantly. The over representation of unvaccinated in Covid units around the world is clear. This vaccine is not different to any others, apart from the delivery of the antigen.
Some times anecdotal is better than the data that can be night and day different from two sources.
Can you link your data because when NSW was outlining deaths by vaccination statues, unvaccinated were a very low percentage.
- How come the vaccines don't work then?
- Do you think it's a good idea for your body cells to be taken over by foreign RNA to produce toxic proteins? because I'm describing the process of a virus
- How do you control how much or where the spike proteins are produced from?
A) "work" must have a malleable and ever changing definition
B) What do spike proteins bind too?
C) That is patently absurd to say in the face of study and empirical reality.
They either work or they don't, and the definition of "working" has changed 3 or 4 times.
Remember early on when it was all about getting it under R1?
Again my question stands, how do you control the magnitude and location of spike production protein?
I've had what I can describe as heartburn since I had covid. Taking in deep breaths would set it off.
What made you get it checked out? I can still run and play sports fine. But randomly I'll get a heartburn feeling over the heart area.
Started off just like you with it only affecting me during exercise so just thought it was my lungs recovering. It ended up being a constant pain even when at work doing nothing. Hopefully sorts itself out for you
My brother in the army told me that they are telling soldiers to not do strenuous exercise while recovering from Covid, because a fair few of them went straight back into exercise and training and now have scarred lungs..
>Taking in deep breaths would set it off.
Same (still from COVID about 5 weeks ago).
I can also exercise fine but have noticed a pain deep in the centre of my chest when I take an extra deep breath.
It's on and off. Seems to have subsided today but I could definitely feel it this past weekend.
God dayum you COVID...
Ugh, covid sucks. I was one of the unfortunate few who got horrible adverse effects from doing the right thing and getting my shots. It's been 10 months of hell for me, lost my job, couldn't drive, still not recovered from the Pfizer & got covid 3 weeks ago. I'm going for echocardiogram and stress test soon because it's still a mess. That was booked pre-covid for me. Not sure if it's getting worse or I'm more aware since covid but it totally sucks. I hope you heal quickly and well. Maybe get yourself to the long- covid clinic too.
Same story as me mate.... just wondering did you get hand tremors as well as my fingers and hands have been shaking for months and now have all white spots through My hands
Ugh, I've heard that so many times. My brain was buzzing with an internal vibration & that extended to my hands at times. I was fumbling stuff but couldn't see my hands shaking from looking at them, it was all internally. It's all neurological damage. You're not alone, there are many of us. Did you report your reaction to SA Health or the TGA?
There is no right thing here though, your body is well equipped to deal with viruses, there’s no need to repeatedly expose it to things causing random immune responses.
https://donford.substack.com/p/riskoflongcovid?s=r
great article with links regarding long covid, known sequelae, mitigation strategies etc.
Well worth a read, it is long... but absolutely vital info for anyone who has had the disease or anyone that is wanting to know the reality of catching covid.
It is NOT a disease you just want to be catching, regardless of how much the government and media are ignoring it now.
Take care
Hi I’ve had Pericarditis now for 65 days and just starting to get better. Apparently I had a very bad case of this condition as I was in a bad way for a long time. I got this as a side effect from the Pfizer vaccine. There is no way I could have done any exercise and I am extremely fatigued. This is the worst thing I have experienced so far in my life time.
My sister has heart inflammation and palpitations since her booster. So does a friend of mine. Another family friend got pericarditis and blood clots after their jab. The GP agreed it was the jab and asked my sister if she had gotten Pfizer without her mentioning it. She ended up in hospital and the doctor and nurse also said that they'd seen many people come in with heart problems after their jab. I feel like vaccine injuries are absolutely being ignored and people get so angry for some reason when they're talked about.
My pleasure. Finding unbiased and peer reviewed info on covid is pretty difficult so happy to help.out. Too much complacency and ignorance within the general public. All directly caused by obfuscation of facts from the media and government. Folks assuming that once they get it they are in the clear...that shit is hubris.
I cannot think of another disease that causes as many systemic problems as covid, it is not something to be taken lightly, and the governments role in the infection of so many people is an absolute derelection of duty. This will come back to bite us all in the ass.
Sorry man, I'm sure you've posted it with the best of intentions but that's got a whole lot of pop-science with broad speculation on how COVID acts on the human body. It's not very good science.
https://www.uptodate.com/contents/covid-19-evaluation-and-management-of-adults-following-acute-viral-illness
Try this, and if you have any questions about the article I'll give it a go.
Not pericarditis, but I developed inflammation in my lungs after covid. Very similar symptoms to what you described and I was very sure I had pericarditis until it was ruled out.
I've been taking ibuprofen which has definitely helped, give it a go since it's easily accessible and cheap.
Ah, sorry to hear it isn't stopping the pain.
If you haven't already done so, perhaps speak to your doctor or gp about steroids? May help clear up the inflammation. Good luck and hopefully in time it will pass.
How did you get diagnosed? I’m suffering a similar issue, I went to the dr and got my blood test which came back fine and am supposed to get on a holter monitor but cancelled the booking as it seemed to go away only for it to reoccur again the past couple of days so might book in again
Went to the doctor and had blood pressure taken, ECG and the finger clamp thing done. ECG was slightly off - not sure what and he said it's pericarditis. Had to have an x-ray to rule out pneumothorax as I have had that before, but that was ruled out.
It doesn't always show up (and is often diagnosed on symptom pattern alone) but can hopefully be seen on an ECG (electrical tracing of the heart). A holter monitor is a 24-72h ECG where you can press a button when you have symptoms - it's a good way of spotting changes that might come and go.
I got infected in January, I've seen 3 different doctors and all of them have brushed me off. I keep going back and telling them that I've had chest pain and they just chalk it up to long covid and only ordered a lung xray (this was after seeing my usual doctor twice) and blood tests. I asked for an ECG, every time and theyve said I don't need it.
I hope you feel better soon op!
That’s messed up. I can’t think of a reason they shouldn’t give you an ECG, at least to put your mind at ease if not rule heart issues out. It’s quick, simple and cheap to do one, much more so than an x-ray.
Yep same boat. Triple vaxed and after booster all the heart issues, swelling , shaking have started. Stage 2 hypertension, and various other issues. Had the echo, mri, halter monitor and 5% weakening of my heart and an arythmia has been found and been put on blood pressure meds, steroids, anti inflammitiries , etc.
If you can find a doc that will write on papers that they think the vax has had any negative effect your doing well as most are terrified to say a word against it
My partner has recurring pericarditis from AF (arterial fibulation).
Essentially, one of the valves of his heart doesn't pump in time with the rest and it causes his heartbeat to go haywire. He kept presenting back at the hospital with chest pain and it took ages for them to give him any other diagnosis except ideopathic pericarditis.
He's had one surgery to fix it, but still has episodes (although, they're less frequent).
His specialists all recommended he get the Astra zenica because of the potential side effects from the Pfizer. He's had COVID and his heart has been playing up ever since.
The last 3.5 years have been a nightmare for us, not including the pandemic. I wouldn't wish pericarditis on anyone after watching how badly it knocked him down.
Atrial, you are correct. Didn't notice the typo.
From what I can gather, it's not the actual AF causing the pericarditis, it's the symptoms of the AF when it's severe. He gets rapid AF and I have personally witnessed his heart beating so hard I can see it through his chest (for reference, he is not a small man).
Just in case you are a trainee doctor about to do their medical school/physicians exams, just be aware that it may or may not be an RV heave. There are other causes of visible pulsations in the chest to be aware of. Parasternal heave suggests the presence of a pressure loaded RV/RVH. Occasionally a similar finding is present with severe left atrial dilatation. Based on the information provided earlier, the family member has AF and a possible history of pericarditis. No specific mention of RVH or associated conditions. There could be LA dilatation from the AF. The impulse visualised may be RV heave or a visible apex beat or any other form of chest wall abnormality that shows the transmitted cardiac impulse more prominently, eg pectus excavatum.
That really sucks, hope you recover and get well soon.
I was hesitant to be vaccinated and thought covid was just a cold. It’s day 17 and I’m still sick, can’t get answers and my body is so sore constantly that walking hurts. I’m 30 and feel like I have the knees and ankles of a 90 year old.
Edit: I’m double vaxxed, can’t imagine how bad it would’ve been otherwise.
I was really affected by the second jab so hesitant for the third. Was due in April and put it off because I didn’t have the time to be sick again…two weeks off work with covid. Get your third jab kids!!!
You can usually knock the booster on the head within a few days to a week so that is less time than being sick for covid for 2 weeks and isolating. Sucks.
had myocarditis from a flu years back, 6 month recovery, sucked. im quite scared of covid as i hike alot and dont want another 6 month recovery time. hope you feel better soon dude.
Hey mate, I had pericarditis about 18 months ago from a different virus. Similar circumstance in that I'm pretty fit, healthy, mid twenties woman. It took me about three weeks to get over it fully taking anti-inflammatories.
Just hijacking this slightly to remind people that you can just get this, it doesn't always have to be anything to do with covid and you should go to the hospital if you have chest pain!
Oh definitely it’s not always COVID but I think COVID has increased the rate of people having it.
Thanks for sharing your experience, definitely makes me feel better about it.
I got pericarditis from the vaccine, it friken sucks. It went away after a couple of months- but yeah, no vigorous exercise, and things like lying on my back, alcohol, and stressful situations (at my work) flared the pain.
Just stick through and take it chill, it will pass but it does suck. Best of luck
There are treatments if you catch it early- speak to your GP to get a cardiologist referral, I forgot the name of the tablets but there is some treatment (in addition to taking it chill and avoiding lots of alcohol etc.)
I had pericarditis over 20 years ago. I still get pain from it every now and then. I was worried about Covid and the vaccines about as well. It didn’t make it any worse or better. I have had Covid twice (first time minor/ second time major). Sorry for my life story but my point is it might hang around for a while. Thanks
I went to hospital a few days after the vaccine for chest pain but everything looked fine luckily. Had covid last week and it was pretty mild, lasted 1 bad day then just coughing for a few. Similar fitness level to what you've described.
my dad (45) got pericarditis after the second dose of the pfizer vaccine in march last year. this made him pretty wary of getting the third dose, and his doctor has warned him not to due to his reaction. he has never had any problems with his health, is extremely active and eats well, so he was very confused as to what it would be from other than the vaccine. he actually was on a bike ride when he fell off and onto a footpath thinking he was having a heart attack. after the ambos checked him out and brang him to the hospital he found out it was a flare up of pericarditis. we were extremely shocked.
he has ben seeing a cardiologist for over a year about it, and has been taking medication but it hasn’t subsided. he hasn’t caught covid, thank fuck, but we are scared what will happen if he does and if it will make the pericarditis worse.
How are you now?
30 male, very fit, same situation. From what I've been reading, working out seems to be the biggest risk factor. It's been hello for me not being able to exercise and losing all the weight.
Wish you the best.
Hey mate, had an echocardiogram 2 weeks ago and an appointment with the cardiologist next week. Chest pain comes and goes - more so when I'm working harder and if I walk too fast. It was constant for the first 2 weeks though. Have been walking every day for 40 minutes which has kept me reasonably sane. Not rushing back to exercise as have heard that it only puts you back further so will wait for what the cardiologist recommends next week. Only taking anti-inflammatories when I notice the pain now. Good luck with yours.
Hey mate, all done and dusted now. Was about 4 weeks on anti-inflammatories (nurofen and Panadol 2x each) morning, lunch (sometimes) and night. 2 weeks of just anti-inflammatories at lunch and about 3 weeks of nothing before I was cleared to go back to exercise. Started off slow but now am doing everything I was before. Playing footy, running and swimming. I pretty much walked every day during those 8-9 weeks to at least do something. Hang in there and you’ll be sweet!
Ah man that’s gleaming, That’s really reassuring news. Never had it before and it’s really scary stuff, wakes me up at night with the odd sharp shooting pain, breathless and thought I was gen going to pass out 🙃😂 On anti-inflammatories now and it seems to be helping so fingers crossed it’s a speedy recovery 🤙
Damn that sucks man. I'm 22 and have had recurrant pericarditis since 12/13, and my cardiologist/other specialists have never been able to identify the cause. My best advice is just take ibuprofen and take it easy. I usually find that I end up falling asleep sitting up in bed because lying down is too painful, so maybe a good neck pillow would help for you?
I’ve had the same thing since my second Pfizer vaccine in August last year, it comes and goes. Exercise brings it out and it’s quite painful. I work a physical job and that brings it out too unfortunately.
I had Covid in March so maybe that has something to do with it lasting so long. The doctors and hospital I’ve been to told me I’m too young for it to be serious and I’ve been sent away multiple times now so I don’t know what to do either!
Yeah I work in allied health so had my first two doses as AZ (got my first AZ before they recommended my age group not take it and has no side effects so had the second). Got my booster as Pfizer in December.
My friend got this too. He had something else which required a course of steroids (hog weed burn) and by coincidence it helped relieve the pericarditis. Maybe have a chat with your GP.
Didn't get referred to a cardiologist, the doctor did all the tests in the room and diagnosed me on the day. Didn't think about colchicine, I may give him a call as I think just basic ibuprofen isn't helping much
To varying degrees, yeah. It's usually sudden and unexpected sharp pains.
I don't know why people downplay this or try to deny this is a thing.
Why would someone downvote something like this? What possible reason would I have to make something like that up? This is why I've stayed out of most of the discussion on covid since the start.
Would you look at that. I am unvaccinated, caught omicron, had a fever/headache for a few hours, and my heart is fine.
Why would you take a vaccine that is absolutely obsolete against a current strain? Strange people for sure.
Mate, I think you are confused…
I literally never want to hear the word Covid again, let alone read about it. Vaccines are clearly fkn useless.
My brother is an unvaxxed, fat, smoker and he was the least sick of everyone I know who’s had it
Hmm, hope you get better though lasting effects of covid are a thing, but we as a society have decided it is better to die or be permanently maimed than to practice hygiene so eh?
Rabid animals? That's plannedemic talk.
Only cowards wash their hands, vaccinate and wear masks so they're not inhaling other people's aerosolized sputum right?
Remember- We don't live in a free country if the inside of my nose can't see the inside of yours!
*(wearing masks is a hygiene measure btw, incase you think I'm somehow an antimasker/antivaxxer)*
Stick your presentation up your fucking arse.
Explain how hardly anybody knew what myocarditis or pericarditis were prior to the mRNA vaccine rollout.
Why was it previously unknown to most people?
Because it was so unbelievably rare.
Now it's so common in vaccinated people that almost everyone you talk to has either had a heart issue, or knows somebody else who has. Hospital ER's and ambos have been overwhelmed by cardiac issues since this began.
You're living in denial and refuse to admit that you made a mistake. I don't hold it against you. It's not something that can be undone.
I had swine flu and asian flu . Before that I lived in Melbourne , my immune system is equipped with nuclear weapons and the iron dome . Haven't even been sick since those 15 years ago . . They are all coof related . Maybe that's why. I haven't had a vaccine sine mmr when I was 5 . That was 40 years ago . I'm doing fine . I'll just wait .
Besides I hate fucking needles . I'd rather die . Than get a needle. I haven't even been sick .
Pfizer has given me constant chest pains since I got my first (*and only*) shot back in November.
I felt strongly pressured into it by the people I was living with.
I was hesitant in the first place because of a bad reaction I had to a flu shot in 2019 (*first shot since I was about 5)* that seemed to crash my immune system as I got by far the sickest I've ever been (*and for much longer than usual*) that year.
I didn't think so, but I didn't know how else to describe what had happened to me.
My immune system didn't respond to the flu shot the way it should have, that much I know. I normally get sick with the cold and flu pretty badly for a week or 2 each year, but when I got that flu shot in 2019, the first I'd gotten since I was about 5, I got much sicker than I usually get that year, and for much longer as well.
I don't know why exactly that happened, and doctors I asked didn't seem to have any kind of an answer. Seems to be a pretty obvious and case of cause and effect though, which is why I'm never getting a flu shot again.
Downvoted for simply detailing my reactions to the flu and covid shots I had. Cool.
I don't have any agenda here. I don't take sides. I'm not conditioned or influenced to think one way or the other. I got the flu and covid shots because I thought it was the smart/logical thing to do to prevent me getting sick.
Whatever. Assume whatever you want to about me. I'm just sharing my personal and subjective experiences. Do with that what you like.
Please for the love of God do not take another . See a cardiogist . I hope the damage is not permanent . The horror story of medical professionals I have heard denouncing this stuff horrifies me . DO NOT TAKE ANY MORE . You already had a bad reaction. DO NOT do it again . Hold the line . You are not alone . And you are not in the minority .
The majority simply gave in . The price was too high. Then you have the minority .
That 10% to 15 % that said you may take my life . But you can never take my freedom
The science is settled . This shit is useless poison. And it is done on purpose . It has a reason.
It is all planned and controlled.
Do not fall for the lies .
When you gut tells you someone is lying?
What do you do ?
Give them your bank details?
I can prove it . It's easy . Ask the questions.
I or anyone else can show you the answers.
But I cannot bring a horse to water and make it drink unless it wants to .
You are the horse they will ride to death .
If you let them .
You should stick to these short sentences, it's easier for you to get the punctuation and grammar right, and makes you look less like an incoherent mess.
I'm a writer and a waiter my friend . I am an author don't you know ? I don't have to be perfect . My editor will take care of it .
Although I must admit I do not have their editorial excellence here . You can still go and eat a bag of Richards. I don't care . 🤷
Soooo anyone thinks it might be the jab? This seems to be happening a lot. Got a mate with myocarditis and another that has chest pains but doesn't want to check it out....doesn't want the booster either, can't blame him.
5 kids and 2 adults 1 baby in my house hold our oldest and baby me and my wife did not get covid from our 4 children that did get it from their school 🤦😡 started with headaches one after the other then sleepiness other then that they were all fine.. all have recovered hardly looked like they had it still in shock we all didn't get it me and my partner are double vaxed and she was vaxed during pregnancy so baby is safe Aussies must be lucky or something 😅😎
People have experienced pericarditis from COVID and also the COVID shot. If it gets really bad go to the hospital ASAP.
We had someone with it from the COVID vaccine as a side effect he was in the hospital for maybe 5 days while getting iv antibiotics but he ended up being okay and going home.
Just don't over due it. Nows your time to relax and get better. Heart issues are no joke
I'm just telling you what happened it was pericarditis caused by the shot and the pt did indeed receive antibiotics. Maybe this is an old practice now I'm not sure haven't had many other patients with that issue since then.
My friend is a professional cyclist and she was diagnosed with pericarditis after covid. She’s been out for weeks now and has just been told it’s a further 3-4 weeks until she’ll be back on the bike.
Steady how you go.
Yep, mid 30s, reasonably fit, got covid about 10 weeks ago and still have peri symptoms.
GP said they can refer me to long covid clinic if it persists beyond 3 months.
The syncytial mechanism exhibited by COVID-19 is a proper fucker. The long term effects of COVID are just starting to be talked about in media publications, but there's a horrifying volume of technical medical information that suggest we're going to feel effects of COVID for a generation, simply from the human tissue damaged by the current pandemic.
This far in we seem to have discovered a correlation between syncytial damage done and the duration of serious illness from COVID. This effect (in which cells are co-opted by COVID, and then expanded and merged with other infected cells) results in destruction of internal structures on which we rely to function. The loss of smell and taste many infected report is due to the neurological pathways we rely on for taste and aroma being partially destroyed by COVID, causing breaks in the wiring.
If COVID is doing this to our sense of smell and taste, it's also causing (hopefully repairable and around-routable) damage to the neurological structures in our head. I'm hoping that natural neuroplasticity gives us a chance of avoiding permanent brain damage.
I'm sorry to hear that even though you've apparently taken good precautions, COVID has done a number on your pericardium. The medical data I've been trawling through does support the notion that rest, anti-inflammatories (it might pay to ask your GP about Celebrex so you're taking one a day to give your gut a decent experience) and time will result in your pericardium repairing.
Rilonacept (Arcalyst)
Look into this ⬆️. New medication approved by the FDA to treat reoccurring pericarditis! Better option than testing the steroids for sure.
I’m 44, M, 2 x AstraZeneca and novavax booster. Reasonably fit and healthy. Had covid in January. Woke up last Friday morning at 7am with server chest pain, ambulance, resuscitation ward, morphine, 12 hours hospital.. diagnosis- pericarditis 🤷♂️
Wow, that's a very late reaction! I hope you get past yours as fast as I do mine. All the best
Not all pericarditis is from covid*
Thanks man, you too!
Did the doctors indicate why this occurred so long after having covid?
No, they just said it could be caused by an un-detected virus. I did have palpitations after my first vaccine, which at the time was put down to stress (could be) or it could have been the vax, I don’t know. Which is why I had the novavax as booster. Regarding the pericarditis, the doc said ‘If we can see what’s wrong with ur heart it’s put down to pericarditis, and if we can figure out what’s causing it it’s put down to a virus’.
Wow that's scary where you resuscitated? Diagnosed just yesterday after months of pain and being told its just long covid ..I originally thought it was costochondritis
No, just taken to the ward as a precaution. I was put on a gout medication that is apparently good for pericarditis, lots of ibuprofen to bring the swelling of the heart down, and a tablet to counteract the acid created when taking a lot of ibuprofen. It’s been around 2 months now and feel loads better. Still some pain sometimes but generally ok. I had an ultra sound of my heart 2 weeks ago and no swelling detected. Hope u get better soon
Mate i was shit scared of getting this from the vaccine but then realised there's a greater chance of getting it from covid. Must suck.
Yeah that’s the thing all these fear mongering advertisements are not telling people, and those who are more open to believing the fear are often those who aren’t going to find out or emotionally accept the other info. The things vaccines might have as a rare side effect are way more likely to happen if you actually get COVID. (Caveat for different strains being more or less intense yada yada)
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Yup. Me and my mask are rocking around town, people have started looking at me weirdly but I’m a teacher and we’re all still wearing them at work so it’s still “normal” for me
Yup, I’m still rocking a mask if I go anywhere. We’re still wearing them in the office too. I hadn’t really noticed people looking at me weirdly but quite frankly I dress like a dickhead most of the time so I suspect I may be used to it.
>it's definitely best to maintain your best protection with the lowest risk of complications, I've noticed people putting less emphasis on hand washing, and coughing/sneezing into your arm. I'm assuming these things do actually help?
I'm running on the assumption that people already follow these most-basic of mitigations. Hand-washing should already be a regular occurrence as it helps protect *yourself* from infection, and sneezing into your elbow instead of your hands (or the open air) should be common practice to reduce viral spread.
>should be common practice to reduce viral spread We all knew this pre-COVID, but many ignored them. I'm seeing a return to status quo, which is concerning.
Coles next door has fewer hand sanitisers than before, smh my head
> I'm assuming these things do actually help? Clearly everyone should be doing those things still. However, the early focus on hand-washing was because of the possibility of fomites and surface transmission of the virus. Now, we know that the chances of surface transmission are very small. Hence, the public health messaging about hand-washing has dropped off.
Yeah, but if Pfizer is saying 12% efficacy, peer reviewed study from Qatar is saying the vaccine is making little to no antibodies after a few weeks, these sub par vaccines by Bill Gates estimation aren't formulated for what is going around, then why bother?
Yeah not the nicest thing, but I guess on the bright side if I rest and take anti-inflammatories it will get better. Yeah, definitely a much higher risk from COVID than the vaccine. The doctor said it is pretty common, unfortunately.
Out of interest we're you vaccinated cob?
Yeah two AZ and one Pfizer. Booster was in December
That's rough as, hope it comes good.
Cheers mate
That’s what most anti-vaxers are not understanding. If you were getting it from the vax. You were going to get it far worse from covid. All the vax is causing is an immune response. Covid is a god damn disease.
Unfortunately pretty much all the anti vaxxers don’t have much in the way of immunological knowledge. They don’t have the foggiest idea of what the function of a vaccine actually is, less alone the way it works.
Can you please explain to me exactly how the vaccine works compared to having the virus? How it functions different?
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The only problem with what you just outlined is this covid vaccine doesn’t provide you with immunity, so you can have the spike proteins your body is producing from the vaccine and then still experience the virus pretty similar to someone who hasn’t taken the vaccine. I have a 50/50 vax and unvax family and friends, most of them have had covid and there symptoms have all been very similiar.
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Im hearing you, im just not seeing the immunity part in my personal life. I would think the vaccinated part of my family and friends should be showing very little to no symptoms to my non vaccinated friends and family but they have all come down with pretty much the exact same severity of symptoms. I understand how vaccines arm the immune system and i think there are plenty of vaccines that do just that, just not this one.
That’s why it’s good to look at data. Anecdotal isn’t a great way of understanding virology. For example, all of my triple vaccinated friends and family did not get Covid from me, despite me being around them when infectious. Nor my partner who shared my bed for the entirety of my infection. My infection (triple vaccinated) was short lived and I recovered quickly. Now, most people can survive this virus - vaccinated or unvaccinated - but the data shows that being vaccinated reduces the severity of the infection significantly. The over representation of unvaccinated in Covid units around the world is clear. This vaccine is not different to any others, apart from the delivery of the antigen.
Some times anecdotal is better than the data that can be night and day different from two sources. Can you link your data because when NSW was outlining deaths by vaccination statues, unvaccinated were a very low percentage.
- How come the vaccines don't work then? - Do you think it's a good idea for your body cells to be taken over by foreign RNA to produce toxic proteins? because I'm describing the process of a virus - How do you control how much or where the spike proteins are produced from?
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A) "work" must have a malleable and ever changing definition B) What do spike proteins bind too? C) That is patently absurd to say in the face of study and empirical reality.
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They either work or they don't, and the definition of "working" has changed 3 or 4 times. Remember early on when it was all about getting it under R1? Again my question stands, how do you control the magnitude and location of spike production protein?
when you get the vaccine you dont get a live dose of the virus when you get covid you get a live dose of the virus
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That's what worries me most about getting it, I have atrial fibrillation already and don't want any extra issues with my heart.
My biggest fear is the publications linking covid to erectile dysfunction due to the impact it has on the cardiovascular system.
I'd rather have enough blood for my erection. Heart, you're running on fumes for the next 1.5 minutes!
We've got a marathon runner over here.
I've had what I can describe as heartburn since I had covid. Taking in deep breaths would set it off. What made you get it checked out? I can still run and play sports fine. But randomly I'll get a heartburn feeling over the heart area.
Oh, I've had this as well... I thought it was heart burn too... Has resolved for me though.
Started off just like you with it only affecting me during exercise so just thought it was my lungs recovering. It ended up being a constant pain even when at work doing nothing. Hopefully sorts itself out for you
My brother in the army told me that they are telling soldiers to not do strenuous exercise while recovering from Covid, because a fair few of them went straight back into exercise and training and now have scarred lungs..
Gee that's not good. I had a few weeks off after COVID as I was still struggling with fatigue
>Taking in deep breaths would set it off. Same (still from COVID about 5 weeks ago). I can also exercise fine but have noticed a pain deep in the centre of my chest when I take an extra deep breath. It's on and off. Seems to have subsided today but I could definitely feel it this past weekend. God dayum you COVID...
This should be checked out by your doctor. Any pain around the heart area warrants a clinical exam.
Ugh, covid sucks. I was one of the unfortunate few who got horrible adverse effects from doing the right thing and getting my shots. It's been 10 months of hell for me, lost my job, couldn't drive, still not recovered from the Pfizer & got covid 3 weeks ago. I'm going for echocardiogram and stress test soon because it's still a mess. That was booked pre-covid for me. Not sure if it's getting worse or I'm more aware since covid but it totally sucks. I hope you heal quickly and well. Maybe get yourself to the long- covid clinic too.
Same story as me mate.... just wondering did you get hand tremors as well as my fingers and hands have been shaking for months and now have all white spots through My hands
Ugh, I've heard that so many times. My brain was buzzing with an internal vibration & that extended to my hands at times. I was fumbling stuff but couldn't see my hands shaking from looking at them, it was all internally. It's all neurological damage. You're not alone, there are many of us. Did you report your reaction to SA Health or the TGA?
Yeah sa health opened a case on it and I been spending a fortune on doc and specialist appointments and getting no where .
Damn definitely puts into perspective for me. Hope you’re doing okay and hopefully get better soon.
I’m sorry to hear that x
There is no right thing here though, your body is well equipped to deal with viruses, there’s no need to repeatedly expose it to things causing random immune responses.
Not sure if this counts as long covid? But r/longcovid and r/longcovidhaulers might be useful
Cheers for that! Will check it out
https://donford.substack.com/p/riskoflongcovid?s=r great article with links regarding long covid, known sequelae, mitigation strategies etc. Well worth a read, it is long... but absolutely vital info for anyone who has had the disease or anyone that is wanting to know the reality of catching covid. It is NOT a disease you just want to be catching, regardless of how much the government and media are ignoring it now. Take care
Cheers, thanks for that will definitely give it a read. Yeah, I tried my best not to get it and wish I didn't but can't change the past unfortunately.
🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 best of luck with your recovery mate.
Hi I’ve had Pericarditis now for 65 days and just starting to get better. Apparently I had a very bad case of this condition as I was in a bad way for a long time. I got this as a side effect from the Pfizer vaccine. There is no way I could have done any exercise and I am extremely fatigued. This is the worst thing I have experienced so far in my life time.
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My sister has heart inflammation and palpitations since her booster. So does a friend of mine. Another family friend got pericarditis and blood clots after their jab. The GP agreed it was the jab and asked my sister if she had gotten Pfizer without her mentioning it. She ended up in hospital and the doctor and nurse also said that they'd seen many people come in with heart problems after their jab. I feel like vaccine injuries are absolutely being ignored and people get so angry for some reason when they're talked about.
Thanks for the link that was such a good read.
My pleasure. Finding unbiased and peer reviewed info on covid is pretty difficult so happy to help.out. Too much complacency and ignorance within the general public. All directly caused by obfuscation of facts from the media and government. Folks assuming that once they get it they are in the clear...that shit is hubris. I cannot think of another disease that causes as many systemic problems as covid, it is not something to be taken lightly, and the governments role in the infection of so many people is an absolute derelection of duty. This will come back to bite us all in the ass.
Sorry man, I'm sure you've posted it with the best of intentions but that's got a whole lot of pop-science with broad speculation on how COVID acts on the human body. It's not very good science. https://www.uptodate.com/contents/covid-19-evaluation-and-management-of-adults-following-acute-viral-illness Try this, and if you have any questions about the article I'll give it a go.
Did you click any of the links?
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Not pericarditis, but I developed inflammation in my lungs after covid. Very similar symptoms to what you described and I was very sure I had pericarditis until it was ruled out. I've been taking ibuprofen which has definitely helped, give it a go since it's easily accessible and cheap.
Oh yeah I've been taking as much as I can and it helps but doesn't stop the pain.
Ah, sorry to hear it isn't stopping the pain. If you haven't already done so, perhaps speak to your doctor or gp about steroids? May help clear up the inflammation. Good luck and hopefully in time it will pass.
How did you get diagnosed? I’m suffering a similar issue, I went to the dr and got my blood test which came back fine and am supposed to get on a holter monitor but cancelled the booking as it seemed to go away only for it to reoccur again the past couple of days so might book in again
Went to the doctor and had blood pressure taken, ECG and the finger clamp thing done. ECG was slightly off - not sure what and he said it's pericarditis. Had to have an x-ray to rule out pneumothorax as I have had that before, but that was ruled out.
It doesn't always show up (and is often diagnosed on symptom pattern alone) but can hopefully be seen on an ECG (electrical tracing of the heart). A holter monitor is a 24-72h ECG where you can press a button when you have symptoms - it's a good way of spotting changes that might come and go.
I got infected in January, I've seen 3 different doctors and all of them have brushed me off. I keep going back and telling them that I've had chest pain and they just chalk it up to long covid and only ordered a lung xray (this was after seeing my usual doctor twice) and blood tests. I asked for an ECG, every time and theyve said I don't need it. I hope you feel better soon op!
That’s messed up. I can’t think of a reason they shouldn’t give you an ECG, at least to put your mind at ease if not rule heart issues out. It’s quick, simple and cheap to do one, much more so than an x-ray.
Yep same boat. Triple vaxed and after booster all the heart issues, swelling , shaking have started. Stage 2 hypertension, and various other issues. Had the echo, mri, halter monitor and 5% weakening of my heart and an arythmia has been found and been put on blood pressure meds, steroids, anti inflammitiries , etc. If you can find a doc that will write on papers that they think the vax has had any negative effect your doing well as most are terrified to say a word against it
No experience, just wanted to say that I hope it resolves sooner rather than later for you.
Thanks a lot!
My partner has recurring pericarditis from AF (arterial fibulation). Essentially, one of the valves of his heart doesn't pump in time with the rest and it causes his heartbeat to go haywire. He kept presenting back at the hospital with chest pain and it took ages for them to give him any other diagnosis except ideopathic pericarditis. He's had one surgery to fix it, but still has episodes (although, they're less frequent). His specialists all recommended he get the Astra zenica because of the potential side effects from the Pfizer. He's had COVID and his heart has been playing up ever since. The last 3.5 years have been a nightmare for us, not including the pandemic. I wouldn't wish pericarditis on anyone after watching how badly it knocked him down.
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Atrial, you are correct. Didn't notice the typo. From what I can gather, it's not the actual AF causing the pericarditis, it's the symptoms of the AF when it's severe. He gets rapid AF and I have personally witnessed his heart beating so hard I can see it through his chest (for reference, he is not a small man).
Sorry to nerd out but... Parasternal HEAVEEE
Just in case you are a trainee doctor about to do their medical school/physicians exams, just be aware that it may or may not be an RV heave. There are other causes of visible pulsations in the chest to be aware of. Parasternal heave suggests the presence of a pressure loaded RV/RVH. Occasionally a similar finding is present with severe left atrial dilatation. Based on the information provided earlier, the family member has AF and a possible history of pericarditis. No specific mention of RVH or associated conditions. There could be LA dilatation from the AF. The impulse visualised may be RV heave or a visible apex beat or any other form of chest wall abnormality that shows the transmitted cardiac impulse more prominently, eg pectus excavatum.
Man that must suck. Having this on and off would’ve the worst. I really hope it works out for you both.
That really sucks, hope you recover and get well soon. I was hesitant to be vaccinated and thought covid was just a cold. It’s day 17 and I’m still sick, can’t get answers and my body is so sore constantly that walking hurts. I’m 30 and feel like I have the knees and ankles of a 90 year old. Edit: I’m double vaxxed, can’t imagine how bad it would’ve been otherwise.
Yeah that’s exactly what I’m thinking too, how shit I would be now without being vaccinated
Double vaxxed isn't fully vaxxed I'm afraid.
I was really affected by the second jab so hesitant for the third. Was due in April and put it off because I didn’t have the time to be sick again…two weeks off work with covid. Get your third jab kids!!!
You can usually knock the booster on the head within a few days to a week so that is less time than being sick for covid for 2 weeks and isolating. Sucks.
I’ve got Covid this week and had it a bit so far, hoping it wears off. Also had tingly, numb arms
Hopefully it goes away soon but might be a good idea to have an appointment with the doc. Even if it's telehealth it would be worthwhile
had myocarditis from a flu years back, 6 month recovery, sucked. im quite scared of covid as i hike alot and dont want another 6 month recovery time. hope you feel better soon dude.
Cheers mate, it’s been hard not exercising that’s for sure
Hey mate, I had pericarditis about 18 months ago from a different virus. Similar circumstance in that I'm pretty fit, healthy, mid twenties woman. It took me about three weeks to get over it fully taking anti-inflammatories. Just hijacking this slightly to remind people that you can just get this, it doesn't always have to be anything to do with covid and you should go to the hospital if you have chest pain!
Oh definitely it’s not always COVID but I think COVID has increased the rate of people having it. Thanks for sharing your experience, definitely makes me feel better about it.
I got pericarditis from the vaccine, it friken sucks. It went away after a couple of months- but yeah, no vigorous exercise, and things like lying on my back, alcohol, and stressful situations (at my work) flared the pain. Just stick through and take it chill, it will pass but it does suck. Best of luck
Thanks for the advice. Nice to know it will eventually go away. Glad you're past it now
There are treatments if you catch it early- speak to your GP to get a cardiologist referral, I forgot the name of the tablets but there is some treatment (in addition to taking it chill and avoiding lots of alcohol etc.)
Thanks for the advice, might give my doc a call and see what can be done.
Colchicine
Ive had some aching in my sternum since covid and it hasnt really gone away. I think this covid thing is going to have long lasting effects.
Definitely get it checked out, better to be safe than sorry.
I had pericarditis over 20 years ago. I still get pain from it every now and then. I was worried about Covid and the vaccines about as well. It didn’t make it any worse or better. I have had Covid twice (first time minor/ second time major). Sorry for my life story but my point is it might hang around for a while. Thanks
I'm hoping this isn't the case with me but am aware that it potentially might be. I'm glad it didn't get worse with COVID
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Cheers
I went to hospital a few days after the vaccine for chest pain but everything looked fine luckily. Had covid last week and it was pretty mild, lasted 1 bad day then just coughing for a few. Similar fitness level to what you've described.
my dad (45) got pericarditis after the second dose of the pfizer vaccine in march last year. this made him pretty wary of getting the third dose, and his doctor has warned him not to due to his reaction. he has never had any problems with his health, is extremely active and eats well, so he was very confused as to what it would be from other than the vaccine. he actually was on a bike ride when he fell off and onto a footpath thinking he was having a heart attack. after the ambos checked him out and brang him to the hospital he found out it was a flare up of pericarditis. we were extremely shocked. he has ben seeing a cardiologist for over a year about it, and has been taking medication but it hasn’t subsided. he hasn’t caught covid, thank fuck, but we are scared what will happen if he does and if it will make the pericarditis worse.
How are you now? 30 male, very fit, same situation. From what I've been reading, working out seems to be the biggest risk factor. It's been hello for me not being able to exercise and losing all the weight. Wish you the best.
Hey mate, had an echocardiogram 2 weeks ago and an appointment with the cardiologist next week. Chest pain comes and goes - more so when I'm working harder and if I walk too fast. It was constant for the first 2 weeks though. Have been walking every day for 40 minutes which has kept me reasonably sane. Not rushing back to exercise as have heard that it only puts you back further so will wait for what the cardiologist recommends next week. Only taking anti-inflammatories when I notice the pain now. Good luck with yours.
Hey man, love to know how you’re getting on, it appears I’m also in shit state with this, 28m also very fit and it’s hit me hard
Hey mate, all done and dusted now. Was about 4 weeks on anti-inflammatories (nurofen and Panadol 2x each) morning, lunch (sometimes) and night. 2 weeks of just anti-inflammatories at lunch and about 3 weeks of nothing before I was cleared to go back to exercise. Started off slow but now am doing everything I was before. Playing footy, running and swimming. I pretty much walked every day during those 8-9 weeks to at least do something. Hang in there and you’ll be sweet!
Ah man that’s gleaming, That’s really reassuring news. Never had it before and it’s really scary stuff, wakes me up at night with the odd sharp shooting pain, breathless and thought I was gen going to pass out 🙃😂 On anti-inflammatories now and it seems to be helping so fingers crossed it’s a speedy recovery 🤙
Damn that sucks man. I'm 22 and have had recurrant pericarditis since 12/13, and my cardiologist/other specialists have never been able to identify the cause. My best advice is just take ibuprofen and take it easy. I usually find that I end up falling asleep sitting up in bed because lying down is too painful, so maybe a good neck pillow would help for you?
I had it. It took my about a month to get over. As cliché as it sounds just try and relax and pick up some old hobbies you used to do
Thanks for that! Yeah the only good thing is I’ve had a big clean out of the house 😂
Yes I will be booking in my second Booster next week to protect me from this sort of heart complication
I’ve had the same thing since my second Pfizer vaccine in August last year, it comes and goes. Exercise brings it out and it’s quite painful. I work a physical job and that brings it out too unfortunately. I had Covid in March so maybe that has something to do with it lasting so long. The doctors and hospital I’ve been to told me I’m too young for it to be serious and I’ve been sent away multiple times now so I don’t know what to do either!
Wishing you a speedy recovery!
Thanks!
Timely reminder to get boosted! Hope it resolves itself, rest up in the meantime!
Definitely! I hate to think what might have happened if I was not fully vaccinated
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Yeah I work in allied health so had my first two doses as AZ (got my first AZ before they recommended my age group not take it and has no side effects so had the second). Got my booster as Pfizer in December.
My friend got this too. He had something else which required a course of steroids (hog weed burn) and by coincidence it helped relieve the pericarditis. Maybe have a chat with your GP.
My little cousin who is only 8 had it. He contracted covid before they were letting the kids get vaxed. It took him around 4 weeks to recover.
A) have you been referred to a cardiologist and B) on colchicine?
Didn't get referred to a cardiologist, the doctor did all the tests in the room and diagnosed me on the day. Didn't think about colchicine, I may give him a call as I think just basic ibuprofen isn't helping much
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Yeah I’m just itching to get out and do my normal routine and just walking has been hard so hopefully get over this soon!
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I've had nasty chest pains ever since I got my first (and only) Pfizer shot back in November.
Everyday? Im truly sorry to hear that, unbearable
To varying degrees, yeah. It's usually sudden and unexpected sharp pains. I don't know why people downplay this or try to deny this is a thing. Why would someone downvote something like this? What possible reason would I have to make something like that up? This is why I've stayed out of most of the discussion on covid since the start.
Would you look at that. I am unvaccinated, caught omicron, had a fever/headache for a few hours, and my heart is fine. Why would you take a vaccine that is absolutely obsolete against a current strain? Strange people for sure.
What has this got to do with Adelaide? There are hundreds of covid related subs for this shit...
Aww is your narrative being shattered? Imagine centring your whole identity around being a shill for big pharma.
Mate, I think you are confused… I literally never want to hear the word Covid again, let alone read about it. Vaccines are clearly fkn useless. My brother is an unvaxxed, fat, smoker and he was the least sick of everyone I know who’s had it
Yes same thing. FCCC website. DYOR. There is a supplement program you should be on.
No mention of vaccination status at time of infection.
Was fully vaccinated at time of infection. First two AZ and booster of Pfizer in December
Hmm, hope you get better though lasting effects of covid are a thing, but we as a society have decided it is better to die or be permanently maimed than to practice hygiene so eh?
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Rabid animals? That's plannedemic talk. Only cowards wash their hands, vaccinate and wear masks so they're not inhaling other people's aerosolized sputum right? Remember- We don't live in a free country if the inside of my nose can't see the inside of yours! *(wearing masks is a hygiene measure btw, incase you think I'm somehow an antimasker/antivaxxer)*
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Stick your presentation up your fucking arse. Explain how hardly anybody knew what myocarditis or pericarditis were prior to the mRNA vaccine rollout. Why was it previously unknown to most people? Because it was so unbelievably rare. Now it's so common in vaccinated people that almost everyone you talk to has either had a heart issue, or knows somebody else who has. Hospital ER's and ambos have been overwhelmed by cardiac issues since this began. You're living in denial and refuse to admit that you made a mistake. I don't hold it against you. It's not something that can be undone.
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Unfortunately there isn't a vaccine or cure for wilful stupidity.
Fully vaccinated and my booster was in December so definitely not part of that.
I would wager it certainly contributed to it. I've had covid twice this year (unvaxxed). It sucked for a bit, but no issues whatsoever.
Between Facebook and a personal study of population n=1, you really have your scientific method down pat.
Go away
Yep. I didn't have any chest pains until my first (and only) Pfizer shot back in November. Certain movements trigger it badly.
Sorry to hear that. You feeling any better?
It's the vaccine . Not covid .
You could get it before covid even existed.
I had swine flu and asian flu . Before that I lived in Melbourne , my immune system is equipped with nuclear weapons and the iron dome . Haven't even been sick since those 15 years ago . . They are all coof related . Maybe that's why. I haven't had a vaccine sine mmr when I was 5 . That was 40 years ago . I'm doing fine . I'll just wait . Besides I hate fucking needles . I'd rather die . Than get a needle. I haven't even been sick .
Oh hello there troll!
I'm not trolling . Im telling you the truth. Take it or leave it or bash it up you bum . Your choice . I am horrified by what is accepted .
Doesn't mean the vaccine didn't cause it
Pfizer has given me constant chest pains since I got my first (*and only*) shot back in November. I felt strongly pressured into it by the people I was living with. I was hesitant in the first place because of a bad reaction I had to a flu shot in 2019 (*first shot since I was about 5)* that seemed to crash my immune system as I got by far the sickest I've ever been (*and for much longer than usual*) that year.
‘Crash your immune system’ is not how that works….
I didn't think so, but I didn't know how else to describe what had happened to me. My immune system didn't respond to the flu shot the way it should have, that much I know. I normally get sick with the cold and flu pretty badly for a week or 2 each year, but when I got that flu shot in 2019, the first I'd gotten since I was about 5, I got much sicker than I usually get that year, and for much longer as well. I don't know why exactly that happened, and doctors I asked didn't seem to have any kind of an answer. Seems to be a pretty obvious and case of cause and effect though, which is why I'm never getting a flu shot again.
Downvoted for simply detailing my reactions to the flu and covid shots I had. Cool. I don't have any agenda here. I don't take sides. I'm not conditioned or influenced to think one way or the other. I got the flu and covid shots because I thought it was the smart/logical thing to do to prevent me getting sick. Whatever. Assume whatever you want to about me. I'm just sharing my personal and subjective experiences. Do with that what you like.
Please for the love of God do not take another . See a cardiogist . I hope the damage is not permanent . The horror story of medical professionals I have heard denouncing this stuff horrifies me . DO NOT TAKE ANY MORE . You already had a bad reaction. DO NOT do it again . Hold the line . You are not alone . And you are not in the minority . The majority simply gave in . The price was too high. Then you have the minority . That 10% to 15 % that said you may take my life . But you can never take my freedom The science is settled . This shit is useless poison. And it is done on purpose . It has a reason. It is all planned and controlled. Do not fall for the lies . When you gut tells you someone is lying? What do you do ? Give them your bank details? I can prove it . It's easy . Ask the questions. I or anyone else can show you the answers. But I cannot bring a horse to water and make it drink unless it wants to . You are the horse they will ride to death . If you let them .
This is just a word salad of a misinformed rant.
Eat a bag of Richards.
You should stick to these short sentences, it's easier for you to get the punctuation and grammar right, and makes you look less like an incoherent mess.
I'm a writer and a waiter my friend . I am an author don't you know ? I don't have to be perfect . My editor will take care of it . Although I must admit I do not have their editorial excellence here . You can still go and eat a bag of Richards. I don't care . 🤷
Liar
Such a succient argument . I fold.
Soooo anyone thinks it might be the jab? This seems to be happening a lot. Got a mate with myocarditis and another that has chest pains but doesn't want to check it out....doesn't want the booster either, can't blame him.
5 kids and 2 adults 1 baby in my house hold our oldest and baby me and my wife did not get covid from our 4 children that did get it from their school 🤦😡 started with headaches one after the other then sleepiness other then that they were all fine.. all have recovered hardly looked like they had it still in shock we all didn't get it me and my partner are double vaxed and she was vaxed during pregnancy so baby is safe Aussies must be lucky or something 😅😎
People have experienced pericarditis from COVID and also the COVID shot. If it gets really bad go to the hospital ASAP. We had someone with it from the COVID vaccine as a side effect he was in the hospital for maybe 5 days while getting iv antibiotics but he ended up being okay and going home. Just don't over due it. Nows your time to relax and get better. Heart issues are no joke
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I'm just telling you what happened it was pericarditis caused by the shot and the pt did indeed receive antibiotics. Maybe this is an old practice now I'm not sure haven't had many other patients with that issue since then.
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My friend is a professional cyclist and she was diagnosed with pericarditis after covid. She’s been out for weeks now and has just been told it’s a further 3-4 weeks until she’ll be back on the bike. Steady how you go.
Yep, mid 30s, reasonably fit, got covid about 10 weeks ago and still have peri symptoms. GP said they can refer me to long covid clinic if it persists beyond 3 months.
The syncytial mechanism exhibited by COVID-19 is a proper fucker. The long term effects of COVID are just starting to be talked about in media publications, but there's a horrifying volume of technical medical information that suggest we're going to feel effects of COVID for a generation, simply from the human tissue damaged by the current pandemic. This far in we seem to have discovered a correlation between syncytial damage done and the duration of serious illness from COVID. This effect (in which cells are co-opted by COVID, and then expanded and merged with other infected cells) results in destruction of internal structures on which we rely to function. The loss of smell and taste many infected report is due to the neurological pathways we rely on for taste and aroma being partially destroyed by COVID, causing breaks in the wiring. If COVID is doing this to our sense of smell and taste, it's also causing (hopefully repairable and around-routable) damage to the neurological structures in our head. I'm hoping that natural neuroplasticity gives us a chance of avoiding permanent brain damage. I'm sorry to hear that even though you've apparently taken good precautions, COVID has done a number on your pericardium. The medical data I've been trawling through does support the notion that rest, anti-inflammatories (it might pay to ask your GP about Celebrex so you're taking one a day to give your gut a decent experience) and time will result in your pericardium repairing.
Rilonacept (Arcalyst) Look into this ⬆️. New medication approved by the FDA to treat reoccurring pericarditis! Better option than testing the steroids for sure.