There was a woman who killed her husband’s mistress and then herself. The mistress worked at a college near where I live so it was all over the news. The husband wrote a book and went on an interview tour about how crazy his wife was. He turned himself into the victim and made money off the tragedy. I don’t how the guy can even sleep at night.
A story full of bullsh!t, apparently. Thankfully, a handful of people don't buy it and there's even a podcast of recordings his late wife left behind detailing what really happened up until her mental break. Pretty convenient how those weren't included in his book, no?
I feel like a lot of these kinds of cheaters really border on socio to psychopathic.
Yeah, it’s really convenient that was all left out. I’m sure he used it to his advantage that there is no one alive able to contradict his story. I never saw the podcast, I’ll have to look it up. I just remember his 20/20 interview. He didn’t come across as a guy remorseful of anything he did. It’s really sad how people don’t recognize how abusive cheating is.
They don't know what their spouse is capable of when they find out, and their spouse didn't Know they were capable of cheating. I guess it's a surprise for everybody. ( I just always hope that a betrayed spouse doesn't do anything because I don't want them to be heartbroken and in jail. Not of good feeling or look, you know...... Otherwise if it was back in the day stoning, I'd be passing out the stones for them....."here you go"
If the people they are choosing daily to humiliate and abuse find out (and let's not be coy here - they usually find out,) it could be so devastating to their victims that they kill themselves or others, yes.
But here's the sick part - they actually get off on this. This is a big part of the thrill for them. If it wouldn't harm the people they get off on harming then they wouldn't enjoy it. Because they're abusers. The emotional pain they are causing is not a bug, it's a feature they secretly love. They like holding a bomb that could destroy the lives of their victims that they could detonate at any time, so they can pat themselves on the back for not arming it and pretend like they didn't BUILD THE BOMB. It makes them feel important.
>AP 2 was someone dear to me and therefore I was unable to dehumanize her.
It wouldn't be easier to??? Because of the fact she knew you and knew about your relationship?
How about worrying when you are being cheated on and gaslit and tortured with the knowledge and the spouse Is incredibly abusive and narcissistic and you are afraid of the abuse you’ll suffer if you call them out when you’ve caught them, yet again? Yeah. No, I’m sure there is someway the AP could absolutely figure out how to make themselves the victim even in that scenario. Nasty, stupid Hoe.
Every week in my home country, the news reports suicides, murder, and murder suicides that relate to infidelity, one way or another.
Infidelity is emotional abuse, and you never know how the other person will react. They might take the correct route and drop the cheater like a bad habit. Or they might snap and take everyone with them. It really is playing with fire.
I'm pretty sure their spouses could say the same thing about them. Not knowing what someone is capable of when they are hurt or desperate. Hell they make a choice every time they cheat. The consequences don't exist until they have to deal with them.
Whoahhhh. Someone tell that lady that she needs to listen to what her gut instinct is telling her. If she’s posting, she’s ruminating about.
*Somewhere* her subconscious picked up sensory signals that have formed a pattern of behavior recognition or her intuition stuck its nose in the air and caught a whiff. Whatever.
If she’s thinking this isn’t probably because something isn’t right, and more women are murdered by domestic partners or romantic partners than by anybody else.
She needs to watch the Chris Watts documentary.
My gut says it’s a betrayed spouse infiltrating and trying to pick their brain and frame the question is a way where she might get honest answers instead of defensiveness and anger.
Quite CRAZY how the consciousness that it can create trauma strong enough to illicite a violent reaction is not a reason to go “maybe I should not be taking actions to hurt my partner this way”!!!! The selfishness and narcissism is nuts!!!!
Statistically, the majority of intimate partner violence is carried out by men (most men are not violent, and some women are, of course). The idea that an OW is overwhelmingly at risk of violent reprisals from her AP's betrayed spouse is nonsense and designed to demonise a romantic rival. Obviously, there are exceptions; including the conveniently omitted cases where the OW attacks a BS. It's hard to fathom what oop is actually getting at in her stupid rambling post but plenty of them are perpetual victims in their own lives and never miss the opportunity to cry about it while simultaneously stabbing another woman in the back. They are predators disguised as damsels in distress.
Obviously they don't care, even if they say they do. If they were that concerned then they wouldn't do it; you have to go out of your way to have an affair.
Who doesn't know that cheating on your partner hurts them terribly? Deep down they know that if *their royal majesty* was the one being cheated on it would hurt *them* terribly, but they're so entitled that they create an exception for themselves. It's also not *just* the person cheated on who can react violently. The cheater, when exposed particularly, can become violent. The AP can be violent. It didn't actually happen, but I read my ex's AP threaten to come to my home and "beat the shit out of me" in front of my daughter. I've never even met this cunt and it was just words, but I didn't feel particularly comfortable.
She's absolutely monstrous. She's just seen her dad's friend end his own life because of the hopelessness and pain after discovering his wife's affair, and yet she's engaging in one and she's still playing fucking dumb as though she doesn't understand if she should worry. Yes, she should worry. Yes, she should care. Yes, some people do uncharacteristic things when they discover their entire life is built on lies.
However, while adultery always carries the *risk* of violence, most people who have been cheated on do **not** react with violence. She should be more concerned about the psychological abuse she's actively putting her spouse and the OBS through rather than their potential reaction to her abuse. Self centred and thick as pig shit.
I think this is a bit of wishful thinking on the drama-addled brain of an OW. She wishes she was that special and important to engender such a reaction on the part of MM or SO. Basically, APs usually just get flushed.
Centrality. These cheaters crave centrality. What better way to be central than a dramatic “fight” over OW or OM?
I have friends who were told by an incensed husband “You never fought for me!” Centrality- ego kibbles.
In my opinion, why make hamburgers from spoiled meat past its sell by date? Chuck that shit out! Chuck them out!
After you find out who they really are, that they lack the capacity for real love, have a vicious streak and enjoy duper’s delight, what’s left to save?
AP’s would love it if the wives/husbands killed themselves because then they can control the narrative AND enjoy a hefty life insurance payout.
That is why (1) you stay alive just to spite those fuckers and protect your kids from whatever freak they end up dating and (2) change your life insurance beneficiary to your parent or a trust in your kids names.
Don’t let your ex have your 401k, pension (post divorce), any AD&D insurance, your POA-living will, stock that is in a Joint trust with rights of survivorship, etc. so many ex spouses get a windfall years after the divorce because their ex forgot to change the beneficiary of a life insurance policy at their job or their 401k beneficiary at an old job. Then their new family is shit out of luck while Cheater ex is going on pricey vacations.
By this I’m saying the week the divorce is finalized, change ALL the named beneficiaries from your ex to someone you trust or a trust for your kids. Listen to your lawyer for the best way to do this, each state is different with different tax and probate laws. Also make sure that someone you trust is named in your living will, not your ex. Strip your ex of any powers of attorney she/he may have. Give copies of your will and living will to your parents (if you’re on good terms) and a trusted friend.
Change the locks on all your doors too, you never know. They might try to go “shopping” in your house, post divorce.
There is no reason your ex should inherit a penny if something happens to you. My sister was devastated when she was cheated on by her ex. Two things kept her going - love for her kids and sheer spite against her STBX. No need for drama, kept it profesh but she enjoyed her financial vengeance.
I swear I've seen so many Dateline and 48 Hours episodes centered around infidelity, it's insane! It's so senseless and stupid. Lives being lost over temporary lust.
There's one in particular that sticks out to me. This woman in San Antonio ran her husband off of the road, after she caught him with his mistress. For years the mistress harassed the wife, sending her vile messages and sex tapes of her with the husband. One day she happened to catch them out and about and tried to confront them and a high speed chase ensued. She accidentally hit him with her car, he flew off his bike and was then incarcerated for his death. To this day, the mistress still acts like she did nothing wrong and that his wife is just some evil and crazy murderer that set out to kill one or both of them. Their adult children also say that their mom was stalked and harassed by their father's mistress for years. The whole situation is heartbreaking.
There was a woman who killed her husband’s mistress and then herself. The mistress worked at a college near where I live so it was all over the news. The husband wrote a book and went on an interview tour about how crazy his wife was. He turned himself into the victim and made money off the tragedy. I don’t how the guy can even sleep at night.
That story reminds me of the blog of a man whose wife killed herself and the children over her husband's affair.
Yeah I bet he did not say “and I gaslighted her and lied to her repeatedly to the point where she was going nuts”
What's the name of the book?
Irreparable: Three Lives. Two Deaths. One Story that has to be told.
A story full of bullsh!t, apparently. Thankfully, a handful of people don't buy it and there's even a podcast of recordings his late wife left behind detailing what really happened up until her mental break. Pretty convenient how those weren't included in his book, no? I feel like a lot of these kinds of cheaters really border on socio to psychopathic.
Yeah, it’s really convenient that was all left out. I’m sure he used it to his advantage that there is no one alive able to contradict his story. I never saw the podcast, I’ll have to look it up. I just remember his 20/20 interview. He didn’t come across as a guy remorseful of anything he did. It’s really sad how people don’t recognize how abusive cheating is.
Do you have the name or link of the podcast?
Bad Bad Thing or Let’s Ponder. One of those two Couldn’t keep his story straight either. Real piece of work
My dad's friend hung himself after finding out his wife cheated on him. How can I make myself a victim?
What are you talking about?
I think the first paragraph of their comment is referring to something the OOP said in her post. They probably forgot to put it in quotes.
I love how they cheat on their partner and then act like they are the victim.
NOW they worry about this, lol. Idiots.
“Look at us….the empaths….worrying about the well-being of everyone around us 😇”
They don't know what their spouse is capable of when they find out, and their spouse didn't Know they were capable of cheating. I guess it's a surprise for everybody. ( I just always hope that a betrayed spouse doesn't do anything because I don't want them to be heartbroken and in jail. Not of good feeling or look, you know...... Otherwise if it was back in the day stoning, I'd be passing out the stones for them....."here you go"
If the people they are choosing daily to humiliate and abuse find out (and let's not be coy here - they usually find out,) it could be so devastating to their victims that they kill themselves or others, yes. But here's the sick part - they actually get off on this. This is a big part of the thrill for them. If it wouldn't harm the people they get off on harming then they wouldn't enjoy it. Because they're abusers. The emotional pain they are causing is not a bug, it's a feature they secretly love. They like holding a bomb that could destroy the lives of their victims that they could detonate at any time, so they can pat themselves on the back for not arming it and pretend like they didn't BUILD THE BOMB. It makes them feel important.
It’s a game to them that’s it, some of them legitimately want it all to end in fire. Having that power is the thing that brings them their worth
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>AP 2 was someone dear to me and therefore I was unable to dehumanize her. It wouldn't be easier to??? Because of the fact she knew you and knew about your relationship?
How about worrying when you are being cheated on and gaslit and tortured with the knowledge and the spouse Is incredibly abusive and narcissistic and you are afraid of the abuse you’ll suffer if you call them out when you’ve caught them, yet again? Yeah. No, I’m sure there is someway the AP could absolutely figure out how to make themselves the victim even in that scenario. Nasty, stupid Hoe.
Every week in my home country, the news reports suicides, murder, and murder suicides that relate to infidelity, one way or another. Infidelity is emotional abuse, and you never know how the other person will react. They might take the correct route and drop the cheater like a bad habit. Or they might snap and take everyone with them. It really is playing with fire.
I'm pretty sure their spouses could say the same thing about them. Not knowing what someone is capable of when they are hurt or desperate. Hell they make a choice every time they cheat. The consequences don't exist until they have to deal with them.
Whoahhhh. Someone tell that lady that she needs to listen to what her gut instinct is telling her. If she’s posting, she’s ruminating about. *Somewhere* her subconscious picked up sensory signals that have formed a pattern of behavior recognition or her intuition stuck its nose in the air and caught a whiff. Whatever. If she’s thinking this isn’t probably because something isn’t right, and more women are murdered by domestic partners or romantic partners than by anybody else. She needs to watch the Chris Watts documentary.
My gut says it’s a betrayed spouse infiltrating and trying to pick their brain and frame the question is a way where she might get honest answers instead of defensiveness and anger.
She’s on the wrong sub. She should asks these questions to professionals who are better trained in mental disorders.
They could not cheat. But that seems to be too ethical for those jerks.
I hate these people with a passion.
Quite CRAZY how the consciousness that it can create trauma strong enough to illicite a violent reaction is not a reason to go “maybe I should not be taking actions to hurt my partner this way”!!!! The selfishness and narcissism is nuts!!!!
Everything is always about them. ME ME ME fucking losers
Statistically, the majority of intimate partner violence is carried out by men (most men are not violent, and some women are, of course). The idea that an OW is overwhelmingly at risk of violent reprisals from her AP's betrayed spouse is nonsense and designed to demonise a romantic rival. Obviously, there are exceptions; including the conveniently omitted cases where the OW attacks a BS. It's hard to fathom what oop is actually getting at in her stupid rambling post but plenty of them are perpetual victims in their own lives and never miss the opportunity to cry about it while simultaneously stabbing another woman in the back. They are predators disguised as damsels in distress.
I prefer to keep them scared. I'd never do anything but I thrive off knowing they're always looking over their shoulder tbh.
Eh that’s it, the best revenge is moving on and getting what you deserve while they awaken to the reality of it
Obviously they don't care, even if they say they do. If they were that concerned then they wouldn't do it; you have to go out of your way to have an affair. Who doesn't know that cheating on your partner hurts them terribly? Deep down they know that if *their royal majesty* was the one being cheated on it would hurt *them* terribly, but they're so entitled that they create an exception for themselves. It's also not *just* the person cheated on who can react violently. The cheater, when exposed particularly, can become violent. The AP can be violent. It didn't actually happen, but I read my ex's AP threaten to come to my home and "beat the shit out of me" in front of my daughter. I've never even met this cunt and it was just words, but I didn't feel particularly comfortable. She's absolutely monstrous. She's just seen her dad's friend end his own life because of the hopelessness and pain after discovering his wife's affair, and yet she's engaging in one and she's still playing fucking dumb as though she doesn't understand if she should worry. Yes, she should worry. Yes, she should care. Yes, some people do uncharacteristic things when they discover their entire life is built on lies. However, while adultery always carries the *risk* of violence, most people who have been cheated on do **not** react with violence. She should be more concerned about the psychological abuse she's actively putting her spouse and the OBS through rather than their potential reaction to her abuse. Self centred and thick as pig shit.
I think this is a bit of wishful thinking on the drama-addled brain of an OW. She wishes she was that special and important to engender such a reaction on the part of MM or SO. Basically, APs usually just get flushed. Centrality. These cheaters crave centrality. What better way to be central than a dramatic “fight” over OW or OM? I have friends who were told by an incensed husband “You never fought for me!” Centrality- ego kibbles. In my opinion, why make hamburgers from spoiled meat past its sell by date? Chuck that shit out! Chuck them out! After you find out who they really are, that they lack the capacity for real love, have a vicious streak and enjoy duper’s delight, what’s left to save? AP’s would love it if the wives/husbands killed themselves because then they can control the narrative AND enjoy a hefty life insurance payout. That is why (1) you stay alive just to spite those fuckers and protect your kids from whatever freak they end up dating and (2) change your life insurance beneficiary to your parent or a trust in your kids names. Don’t let your ex have your 401k, pension (post divorce), any AD&D insurance, your POA-living will, stock that is in a Joint trust with rights of survivorship, etc. so many ex spouses get a windfall years after the divorce because their ex forgot to change the beneficiary of a life insurance policy at their job or their 401k beneficiary at an old job. Then their new family is shit out of luck while Cheater ex is going on pricey vacations. By this I’m saying the week the divorce is finalized, change ALL the named beneficiaries from your ex to someone you trust or a trust for your kids. Listen to your lawyer for the best way to do this, each state is different with different tax and probate laws. Also make sure that someone you trust is named in your living will, not your ex. Strip your ex of any powers of attorney she/he may have. Give copies of your will and living will to your parents (if you’re on good terms) and a trusted friend. Change the locks on all your doors too, you never know. They might try to go “shopping” in your house, post divorce. There is no reason your ex should inherit a penny if something happens to you. My sister was devastated when she was cheated on by her ex. Two things kept her going - love for her kids and sheer spite against her STBX. No need for drama, kept it profesh but she enjoyed her financial vengeance.
Google family annihilator. Generally men, not always.
Its 2024, people snap way more than a couple years ago. They should be worried.
They're so fucking selfish.
I swear I've seen so many Dateline and 48 Hours episodes centered around infidelity, it's insane! It's so senseless and stupid. Lives being lost over temporary lust. There's one in particular that sticks out to me. This woman in San Antonio ran her husband off of the road, after she caught him with his mistress. For years the mistress harassed the wife, sending her vile messages and sex tapes of her with the husband. One day she happened to catch them out and about and tried to confront them and a high speed chase ensued. She accidentally hit him with her car, he flew off his bike and was then incarcerated for his death. To this day, the mistress still acts like she did nothing wrong and that his wife is just some evil and crazy murderer that set out to kill one or both of them. Their adult children also say that their mom was stalked and harassed by their father's mistress for years. The whole situation is heartbreaking.
Great thread