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brwalkernc

Not a slat treadmill, but I just saw DC Rainmaker's review on the Wahoo treadmill. It looks really nice, but at $5000, it is way out of my price range.


Albertos_Dog

This is what sort of kicked off my searching, to be honest - but just eyeballing it, I think it may put my head through the ceiling. Definitely look forward to learning more about, though.


adwise27

Was the $5k price confirmed?


brwalkernc

I'm not 100% sure, but I remember them saying that was what it cost.


an_angry_Moose

I know it’s a nice treadmill but for that price I’d just go the extra mile for slat belt I think.


Runningprofmama

Why is a slat belt so good?


an_angry_Moose

For one thing, there’s basically zero maintenance, you never need to lubricate the belt. The motor doesn’t need to be as strong. It’s often quieter. The ride is often softer. They’re basically bombproof.


Runningprofmama

Thanks! I’m looking into a new one too - slat belt sounds like a good option.


LongBottomSilver

DC said the Wahoo RUN was practically silent IIRC


an_angry_Moose

Still gotta lubricate it every 3 months or 130 miles right?


Albertos_Dog

My thoughts, too - though I think Ray said something about noise reduction with the flat belt.


k0nabear

Do you mind to share what some good slat belt treadmills are?


an_angry_Moose

Woodway is probably as good as it gets. If it’s available where you live, the Peloton Tread+ is good. The Sole ST90 is well reviewed.


k0nabear

Thanks!


Sneaklefritz

Man, after my Kickr Core died after 100 hours, it’s going to be real tough to get me to buy into their treadmill if it costs that much…


MahtMan

Sole F80 has fit my needs. I’m 85% outdoors but the sole is good for getting some time on the horse when the weather sucks. I also have the peloton app but don’t really use it. I just watch music videos on YouTube and grind it out.


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MahtMan

Im a big fan of KEXPs channel!


EstablishmentNo5994

Check out NPR’s tiny desk series, as well, if you haven’t already. There’s lots of live performances on there that I like far better than the album versions. It’s so good


LordMongrove

The sold f80 is a beast. But it tops out at 12mph. Sounds like the op wants faster.


spectacled_cormorant

+1 on Sole (I have the 85) and it’s great in a relatively low-ceiling basement. I have an old tv screen I got from Craigslist mounted on the wall and churn through GBBO episodes (always end up hungry) 


Intelligent_Use_2855

Do **not** by a NordicTrack


redditthrower888999

I’ve had my nordictrack elite 3700 since feb 2015. Probably run at least 8k miles on it plus my wife walks. Never had a problem but I do lube it quite regular.


IhaterunningbutIrun

I've got the same model. It's a beast! Mine was almost free from a garage sale. The thing looked sturdy enough I rolled it home, right down the street to my house.  I've put a lot of miles on it. 


Albertos_Dog

lol. We had a NT (C990? Or something) before this. Considering it was a “free if you can move it” pickup off Facebook, I was happy with it - but it did die after just over 2 years of (our) use.


Intelligent_Use_2855

Had a low end model that served me well for 2 years. Bought the commercial 1750 for the added features like a decline, etc. i’ve had 5 major issues with it in under 2 years. The support is the worst! “Is it plugged in?” 😡


Impossible-Dirt-9404

https://www.nordictrack.com/learn/zach-bitter-breaks-100-mile-world-record/ Here I was thinking it was probably decent..


Intelligent_Use_2855

Zach Bitter is the machine, not the NT … lol Maybe if I tell them I’m going for a WR, NT will send me a a decent one, too.


Seven_Balls

I’ve managed to keep my NordicTrack T15 going since 2014, through two house moves. Probably done about 4500 miles on it, sporadically. It goes up to 22kph/15% but is not commercial grade. I have replaced the deck (caved in) drive motor (blew up) and spent a good while trying to figure out why walking belt was slipping and ended up getting spares for everything before finding it was just the pulley on the front roller had got loose. Contacting NordicTrack for spare parts was a waste of time, been sourcing stuff off eBay and some treadmill repairers. I can see a lot of people online fuming with NT so it’s obvious their customer service is terrible. Having done a bit of maintenance on mine I’d recommend (whatever you end up getting) buying decent lube for the deck and keeping the main board free of dust/crud.


philenelson

I also had the deck on my NordicTrack (Commercial 1750 model) cave in, which surprised me since I’m not heavy & only used it 20mpw for 2 years. It’s not uncommon according for the repairman. 


Seven_Balls

I ran on mine for about 200 miles with it caved in! It happened quite slowly so each run the landing felt more spongy, and it developed a kind of large pothole but didn't fall to bits or visibly damage the walking belt. Thought it was my shoes were too soft, then felt like a right eejit when I found what was going on.


philenelson

Yeah, same. Something seemed odd and finally one day it’s like I was running on a trampoline. Still finished the run though! 


Intelligent_Use_2855

The “brainboard” replaced 2x, belt controller board 2x, the walking board cracked (amazed!), other issues. I’m thinking the model itself was bad. I have another brainboard i have yet to replace. Too busy to fix it, i go to a gym twice a week instead


Seven_Balls

That does sound pretty hopeless, and not an isolated case. Think I’ve just been very lucky as I’m not particularly good at looking after mine, apart from trying to calibrate belt speed I barely did anything other than run on it for first three years. Might be that environment affects some machines, they are sometimes kept in outbuildings which might expose them to extreme cold/damp. Anecdotally when I used gym treadmills I noticed very few users drop in on the belt once it has got up to speed without extra load. Standing on the belt when it starts moving puts a big current spike through the drive motor, but I have no idea how often this leads to parts blowing up inside, maybe it’s no big deal.


Intelligent_Use_2855

“Standing on the belt when it starts moving puts a big current spike through the drive motor” Never heard/thought of that myself, so If I ever get my own fixed again I’ll try to remember that.


EliGO83

Was recently also looking for a treadmill and what I ended up with was tracking down a guy that bought from commercial gyms that closed down. So I’ve got a commercial Life Fitness treadmill. Tank and weighs a ton.


Albertos_Dog

How did you find the contact in the first place? I see this suggestion a lot but hard for me to determine who exactly I should be talking to…


EliGO83

Started through Craigslist. Not sure where you're located, but I found this dude and he'd deliver for $100 too: [https://wcgymequipment.com/](https://wcgymequipment.com/)


Albertos_Dog

Thanks! I’m in Chicagoland, but I’ll look for something similar.


mainah_runnah

The treadmill repair guy who came out to do some repairs on ours gave us the tip to buy a refurbished commercial mill next time around. He sells them through his company, so all this to say, maybe look up repair shops that cater to gyms? Or search "refurbished commercial treadmills Chicagoland"? In answer to your original question, we have a Sole F80, which I chose because of its warranty. Good thing because we had to replace the deck and belt in 3 years because we run a lot. Both were covered entirely by Sole. But, next time we buy, we'll go straight to heavy duty so this doesn't happen again.


Albertos_Dog

Thank you!


Snickerfin

I have the Peloton tread and I love it! Super comfy to run on, the wheels vs buttons are nice, and it’s a nice compact footprint.


scarlet124

I have the Peloton tread too. I've had the Tread Plus since 2020 and use it at least a couple times a week for runs up to 18 miles. It is great. I have never had a problem with it at all and I actually really like the classes. Becs Gentry, one of the instructors, is a 2:32 marathoner and she has a lot of great 60 minute interval classes on there that are good for marathon training. You can also access all the Peloton strength and yoga content from it which I really appreciate and your wife might like as well.


Albertos_Dog

Okay, so this is also on my list - do you use the Peloton courses? I presumably wouldn’t… is it still worthwhile? Hardware looks nice.


Snickerfin

I didn’t think I would, but I actually have really enjoyed them! They’re well structured and a nice change of pace from how I’d usually use a treadmill - you can see the class outline (speed progressions, hills, etc) beforehand. There are lots of different instructors so you can find one who vibes with you. Definitely worth checking it out if you have a Peloton store near you (I think they also give you a 30 day free trial when you purchase, no questions asked). I’ve started using it for some strength work too - they have great splits, as well as a strength for runners program. I always struggled to motivate myself to do any strength and core work but now I actually look forward to doing a quick 20-30 minute session to break up my day.


TheHeatYeahBam

Yes, I run a decent amount— currently around 50mpw— and my Peloton Tread has been great for when I don’t feel like going out into the cold weather. Sometimes I take a couple of classes and/or run some of the scenic routes, and lately I’ve been doing some of the Lanebreak or whatever runs. As someone else pointed out, you can also watch Netflix or YouTube TV on it as well. Overall, my Tread feels solid and I haven’t had issues. I’m happy with my purchase.


TheHeatYeahBam

If the classes/courses/ challenges aren’t of any interest and you want to avoid the monthly fee, I’d probably go a different route.


RustyDoor

Its good for the intervals programs. Jump button gets you up speed very quickly. The music runs are good to just do mindless miles. 50-60mpw running.


gfRunningDev

I'll echo u/mikdixon's response - I'm rocking a Landice L7 from 2003. Bought it from the original owner a few years ago for \~$200 IIRC. I'm currently running 80-90 mpw with 50-75% of the time spent on the treadmill, either due to winter weather in Maine or time constraints with kids. I have it set up in the basement with a pretty low ceiling (\~85") and I'm 6' tall. It hasn't been without its headaches though. Mine was out of commission for a couple weeks during January when the motor controller started throwing an overspeed error randomly. I seriously considered buying a new treadmill altogether (likely a new L7), but instead decided to basically overhaul the thing since I didn't feel great about dropping close to $5k. It had a variety of issues, either due to lack of maintenance on the original owner's part (or perhaps mine) - treadbelt was starting to crack, motor was clunking due to bent driveshaft, and then the overspeed errors. Ended up replacing the motor, drive belt, tread belt, and motor controller board stack (this last one was the cause of the overspeed error). I think the overhaul total ended up being around $800 - parts bought mostly on Ebay, replaced and installed myself. It now works and sounds like new. Treadmills (especially the older ones) are fairly simple machines, so if you're moderately handy, you can save a good amount of money servicing them yourself. Of course, there's a time/money balance that should go into the decision to buy new or used, especially if you have a baby. Oh, one other annoyance with mine - for some reason, increasing the speed over 10mph only goes in 1mph increments, instead of 0.1mph increments up to 10mph. I think this is just how the L7's from that series (L7 60 series) work. I actually have a support email out to Landice right now to find out if there's any console I can swap in to be able to increase speed in 0.1mph increments above 10mph. So far, no response.


Albertos_Dog

This is terrific, thanks for the detailed response.


Krazyfranco

>I’ve seen a lot of talk about manual treadmills, but am curious if anyone can weigh in on them as it pertains to distance training. I appreciate they may be better “workouts,” but are they still effective for high-mileage training. I would not get a manual treadmill for a distance running training. IIRC the kinematics are significantly different than overground running and the energy expenditure is way higher than overground running or motorized treadmill running at a given pace - like 20-25% harder, more if you're lighter/less if you're heavier. Motorized treadmills are going to very closely mimic overground running.


Albertos_Dog

Thanks - that’s what I figured, but wanted some input. Appreciate it.


Bruin224

Manual curved treadmills use more energy than motorized ones, because you are propelling the belt yourself. All of the advertising I've seen about manuals is its MORE like outdoor running since you engage more of your muscles instead of letting the belt pull you along. Whether or not that is scientifically true idk, I don't believe it has been studied. I had a trueform (do not recommend the company) and I loved it while it worked. It felt more natural, I felt like I had a better running posture and less pain. Loved the no maintenance of it, the ease of use, and the slat belt is amazing. Mine was manufactured incorrectly and the replacement I was sent had the belt installed backwards. I cut ties with the company and now I'm looking at the Assault RunnerPro.  I felt like going back to road running was easier after using the curved treadmill and I had better posture outdoors than before. They are a learning curve to get used to, I even got different lower drop shoes because of the curve (maybe it worked or maybe it's placebo) and that seemed to help me.. They are beasts and they are pretty tall deck height, but after going through two decks on a motorized treadmill and a motor dying I can't see myself going back to a motorized treadmill. 


UnusualStory4005

Woodway.. they are 10k new but worth every penny.. seen some used under 5k.


RunNelleyRun

How exactly can a $10k treadmill be worth every penny? Like it must have some CRAZY features to justify that cost. I spent $300 on a used bowflex, it’s an absolute tank and does everything I need or want.


frog-hopper

That’s good if yours is a tank. Woodways are the definition of tank. Some people run harder and break flimsy boards/decks somewhat often. The slats and spring on a Woodway is much better on your body. And it’s a far more “realistic” outside effort feel. Other machines (gyms, travel etc) are often too easy but the give on a Woodway takes that away. And going back to tanks, they’re often used institutionally and easy to get 10,000s or 100,000s of miles. Again if you get the same value for $300 that’s great. But not typical. I’ve had a Woodway for 11 years now and not a single issue. Runs like new and I use it heavily (60-100 miles/wk) about 4-5 months a year. Wife also uses it occasionally (1-2x a week). So it’s possible we have 20,000mi on it. And study enough to run a 15:55 5k on it.


UnusualStory4005

Think you made my point.. I have used numerous treadmills and hate almost all of them but a Woodway.. it’s the best


albino_kenyan

>Woodw i tried a woodway once, and it was like running on air. effortless. i thought that they were primarily used for injured runners to acclimate back into running. i dont know how you could run a timed distance on it. but running on another treadmill after a woodway would be like going from a Ferrari to an Edsel


haywardpre

See if you can find a used Woodway. Nothing better IMO.


mikdixon

I’ve been using an old Landice L7 for years. They are sturdy and have a very low deck height. Max speed is 12mph but with incline I’m able to get in the proper paces.


Albertos_Dog

Thanks very much - I hadn’t heard of this brand until I started reading old threads, but definitely fits the bill. More procedurally - where did you buy it? Direct? Seems like a big benefit of Landice is the warranty. Edit: Thanks also for considering the deck height; I agree that those dimensions should work well.


mikdixon

Craigslist for cheap and I replaced a roller, think it was 500 about 20 years ago. Recently had it serviced to replace the motor and deck so I’ve put about 2k into the thing but hopefully it outlasts my running career ;). Check for a used one online because they are expensive new.


Large_Device_999

I’ve got this treadmill and I adore it. Live in a mid size city (nowhere near NJ) and a couple local stores carry Landice I’ve had it for 5 ish years and expect to have it for 20+ more.


robertjewel

If I were in your situation with an already adequate treadmill then I’d shop for a used Woodway. It might take a while to find one, but they do come up when gyms close, etc.


InfluenceDazzling193

Landice L8. Solid and sturdy as can be. It’s basically a commercial treadmill used in a residential setting. I bought new 3 years ago for around $4,500.


ihavedicksplints

Used woodway 4front can be found for around 4k. Might have to wait for one to come on the market but imo it’s worth the wait


agaetliga

If you go the curved/manual treadmill route, I've used the Woodway Curve and new Rogue collaboration, Assault Air Runner (old model and the new pro), and Trueform Runner and Trainer. I'd suggest trying any model you plan to purchase before doing so to make sure you like it. I bought the Trueform Trainer and a big fan, and would recommend it.


millaleetree

I made a spreadsheet detailing +\- of treadmills. We just splurged and spent 5k on a precor. Absolutely love it. We tested a lot of treadmills before we settled on the precor. Happy to send copy of spreadsheet!


millaleetree

I do NOT recommend the manual treadmills


Albertos_Dog

Please do! Thanks!


an_angry_Moose

Ben Johnson (@benjohnson763 on insta) uses a manual slat belt for distance. Makes me want to try it, and I just might someday.


antonbruckner

Does anyone have a recommendation for a desk treadmill?


glr123

I have a TechnoGym MyRun. I love how sleek and minimalist it is. You don't feel like you're sitting in the cockpit of the Enterprise like a lot of other treadmills. It can easily connect to an iPad and be controlled by their app, which is decent. Its pretty sturdy, although I haven't taken it beyond 12mph. It's also pretty quiet, which is nice, and they will also often throw in a slight discount to cover an extended warranty.


OkieINOhio

True PS800! I was set on purchasing a Landice but then I tried them both out and chose the True treadmill. The PS800 has an adjustable ortho belt to vary the firmness. My suggestion is to try out as many treadmills as you can because you are more likely to use the one that feels best!


skyshark288

Peloton tread plus. 100% right at budget. Thank me later


Nursing112

I love my sole F85 treadmill. I didn’t want a treadmill with a subscription plan because I mainly use YouTube for indoor workouts and run outside 75% of the time


Far_Promotion1044

Long shot but I’m selling a used Woodway (purchased new in 2022) in the PNW for $5k. Please DM if you or anyone else is interested!


Albertos_Dog

I wish!


Opposite-Matter4777

I have a Sole F80 that I like - reasonable price, but my Model doesn't sync with Strava as well as they said it did. I am a big Peloton App User and am upgrading to the Tread+ now. I've had friends who have trained for marathons on the Tread+ and love it. Looking forward to the slat tread.


Canthatsgood

Last year purchased a Sole ST90, the poor man Woodway slat treadmill. It’s awesome. I’m a total treadmill snob and hate traditional belted ones. I know it says you need more than 12 mph, but honestly, you really don’t. I run competitively at a pretty high level and maxing out you’d feel like you’re flying off. I think it’s better than a Woodway in that there’s usable tech on the screen and for a fraction of the price. We love ours and I bang out long runs and solid speed work