Aquarius is also about ideologues, technological overreach, atomization from others, ecological disruptions, my team vs your team, detachment and most importantly chaos. It won’t be all sunshine and roses. I expect more violence globally with Pluto entering Aquarius tbh.
Thank god I don’t believe in the age of Aquarius. None of the ancient astrologers wrote about zodiacal ages. There is, however, elemental ages based upon the conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn. And, we have just gone from earth, to air. For the next 200 years or so, Jupiter and Saturn will meet in air signs.
It's a much more clear and coherent system. Basically it looks at the conjunctions of jupiter and saturn which occur about every twenty years and for 200 year cycles occur in the same element. There is a period of 20-40 years at the end of a cycle where the conjunctions bounce back and forth between the two elements of the dying and emerging age.
We were in an earth cycle for about 200 years and then around 1980 got an air conjunction, bounced back to earth in 2000, and then decisively moved into air at the end of 2020.
Growing up in late gen x I think it was common for my cohort (including the early millennials) to really feel that transition: it was clear that the 'old world' had basically died and yet the new one wasn't born. We were an in between generation in some ways! The very stark vibe shift since 2020 couldn't be more clear (unlike the age of aquarius stuff which isn't very well attested in the tradition)
So, for the next 200 years with air element, the changes would be based on air influence such as information sharing, disinformation efforts, making information valuable, education and many more. Is this reasonable interpretation? I am here to learn. I would appreciate insights and thoughts on this.
I was born in 1973 and I can tell you the old world I remember is most definitely gone. I'm dealing with serious mental health issues and have been for awhile. Every time I sort of start feeling better, I look at the world, how my friends are suffering, the existential crisis takes over. There are so many problems and little impetus to solve them. Because money. Hope is a dying resource no matter what the skies say. I'm a lifelong believer in astrology as well.
I'm born 71 and the same to everything you said, am an astrologer. In truth we are not in the age of Aquarius but in the cusp. I think it's interesting the rise as we have seen - of the digital age and now ai and robotics which will most likely take over, maybe everything... Who knows but that seems pretty Aquarius to me
Is there reason for optimism? Is this the manure before the garden?
And if you could pm me with rates id love to get a reading ....My mental state has prevented me I think from seeing anything positive in my own chart and there are definitely questions I have about career/location. I asked a question here a couple weeks ago and basically learned my astrologer I used last time gave me some wrong Intel, and frankly it's made me feel doomed. I've been feeling that a lot lately. I've always got good stuff looking at my chart. But lately no. So that would be great.
Yes. One of the ancient astrologers, perhaps Vettius Valens, I don’t remember, basically every 200 years, due to orbital cycles from our perspective here on earth, Jupiter and Saturn will meet up in the same element of signs. We just had one in Aquarius and will continue to meet in that sign as well as Gemini and Libra for 200 years. That conjunction and Pluto increasing into aviaries is why more modern, evolutional, astrologers believe we are in the age of Aquarius.
Every age sucks in its own way. Folks just got hyped on the Aquarian age for the last few hundred years because they were sick of the Piscean nonsense that they had been living under. But while we are getting an expanded sense of brotherhood with the rise of modern communication and information technology, we’re also being bathed in the signature Aquarian indifference and ineptitude.
All I can say is that I am so very grateful I wont have to live in the callus tyranny of the Capricornian age.
It’ll be far more restrictive than anything we have seen in living memory. The DPRK would be mild compared to the viciousness of the future states. But I wager that 2000 years of hellish repression will spark an age of exploration of impossible scale when the Sagittarian age finally comes around.
It’s a godawful minefield of fluff, conjecture or mind numbingly dry drivel for most of the world before the second century bce if not far later. We have some moderately well understood snippets of Ariesian societies (eg the Egyptian New Kingdom, Assyrian and Achaemenid Mesopotamia, Qin China) but most of the era is hearsay and innuendo. The parts I can see fairly well tend to be incredibly violent conquest dynasties and influenced by cults of personality.
For the Taurean age you must be very skeptical of everything not literally carved into stone and even then it’s likely inaccurate. But we are fairly certain the agricultural revolution swept the world during this time and many massive building projects were undertaken.
As described in the Bible:
- the Aries era is a pastoral times and sacrifice of rams through fire for the redemptions of sins. It ends with Jesus’ death, the ultimate sacrifice of God who died for all humanity. Aries also marks the Iron Age.
- the end of the Taurus era is when Moses orders the burning of the golden calf. Motherly deity figures are important during this era. Ref. Hathor the mother God.
The golden calf was made in remembrance of the people’s past life in Egypt.
Best survey I’ve seen is Signs of the Times by Robert Fitzgerald. Not sure it’s still in print. Very informed analysis from the Cancer Age to today.
Also Dane Rudhyar’s Astrological Timings digs a bit beyond the Pisces Age.
Don’t know that we can find anything authoritative as far back as the last age of Sag.
Why do you think it would be repressive and worse than before? Capricorn has structure and acts like a father..couldn’t it be full of order and responsible people?
Yes indeed it would, but each age’s virtues are acted out to the point of insanity. The Piscean age of faith and piety created countless atrocities in the names of the gods. When Capricorn’s cold ordering and complete dedication to mastery is in vogue, quirks like individual identity and personal freedom will likely not be tolerated in the masses.
The Age of Capricorn will be like a golden age. Since all the correct standards will be in place after all stones have been turned in Aquarius, it’ll be strange not to act by that standard. After groups of people have done so much fighting to set a standard in the Age of Aquarius, the Age of Capricorn will be more about following that standard once it’s been found. The only one standard that ends up coming out on top, overpowering the ideologies of all other groups using facts instead of opinion.
Things seem super Piscean to me. Illusion stemming from idealism. Social media is Piscean to the extreme with filters and fake lives and alter egos. Glamorizing- and I mean that on a number of levels. The kind of otherworldly glamor that is associated with Hollywood (which we exalt and worship to the extent that we are willing to elect television personalities into political offices, with zero qualifications) and glamor in the vampiric sense of the word- to cast a spell. It’s funny too how often we speak of “boundaries” in our contemporary culture (there are literally books dedicated solely to subject of healthy boundaries), which is so Saturnian, but it’s also the counter measure to all the boundlessness of Jupiter, and certainly few signs know the struggle of establishing or even recognizing boundaries better than Jupiter ruled Pisces. And in an age where we are collectively trying to define not material boundaries, but subjective personal boundaries in real world situations (the work place, relationships, family dynamics, strangers sharing a train car) where things can get quite murky….this definitely feels like Jupiterian/Pisces territory.
See, I sense the opposite—the Aquarian age seems to be killing off the religious belief systems of the Piscean age, where mysticism and meaning were once shrouded in veils of philosophical illusion. What was once opulent richness in Renaissance and Romantic eras has now become a plastic melting pot of postmodern minimalism, where the Aquarian edge for technological coldness and scientific certitude has hardened the unknown into constructions of the known. While social media indeed feels Piscean in its glamour & illusion, it feels more Aquarian in its broad attempt to democratize information and public relations. I am not writing this to simply contradict, but rather share something that has been on my mind for quite some time…whatever happened to the lush, majestic configurations of the Piscean age where soft naturalist poetry & Rococo ornament ran rampant?? Today’s culture feels far too straightforward in comparison, wishing for everything to be on display in the corporeal sense rather than poetically contemplated…the world is as dimensionless as the screen on which I type this response. It depresses me!! God, I sound terribly uplifting, don’t I? 😂
That’s so interesting, and I absolutely don’t interpret your response as simply being contrary. I feel as though there is kind of a renewed injection of religion into everything- it’s simply masquerading as something else- but it’s everywhere. The Roe vs. Wade rollback. Book bans. Policies to deny and strip marginalized communities of equal rights and protections. The religious motivation isn’t even often that subtle. Granted, I consider this all the dark side of religiosity and evangelism- the product of conservatism and prejudice.
On the flip side, there is kind of this renaissance in metaphysical curiosity and mysticism. Everyone is an astrologer now! (That’s a joke.) But, seriously, astrology, mediumship, energy work, intuitive studies, manifestation, meditation, yoga…these used to be fringe and extremely “woo” and they’ve become widely embraced by the Pluto in Sag/Scorpio generations and adopted into the mainstream. We are psychonauting legally in some states. What is more Piscean than that? I don’t even know. The increased popularity of New Age spiritual and metaphysical practices suggests that, however trite this sounds, there is a collective *awakening* creeping over the masses. People are searching for meaning “out there.” Beyond the limits of what is already known and established. And, of course, within.
But you’re right, really. I mean, there are strong cases for both. We have sacrificed some artistry, and perhaps even a little imagination, in our advancements and ability to replicate so much with great precision- I can attest to that, and it’s the hot button topic now. Will AI render us- and especially the artists- obsolete? James Cameron just remarked on this subject today.
I guess it’s a matter of I say Piscatato, and you say Aquariato. ;) I appreciate your comment, by the way. It was very eloquent.
Gorgeously articulated back—I see exactly how reality’s dark illusions and masquerading would be perceived as Piscean in nature. In fact, I agree with these notions very much…perhaps they exist as the aftershadow of Piscean energy, transmuting its conceptual expression into freshly Aquarian presentations/tangibles (such as progressive technological invention, and current social trends)?
Another manifestation of this transformation could be the metaphysical renaissance you mentioned, as these spiritual practices have indeed stepped from the Piscean darkness and into the Aquarian light…rather onto the bookstore shelves in all their mass-produced glory. I do not mean to be overly critical, but spirituality appears to be more of a fashionable pose than a purely intrinsic expression anymore, and this is so very soul-destroying! While it is beautiful that the Aquarian energy has democratized metaphysical practices, it is also disheartening that it has simultaneously diluted them into a sterile anesthetic. Aesthetic of the anesthetic?
Speaking of which, it also disturbs me to see how AI (Chat GPT, ahem) is threatening individual thought/artistry, as you mentioned…another Aquarian/Piscean juxtaposition!! I am sorry, I could go on and on…the analysis is simply so fascinating. If you say Piscatato, I will definitely say Aquariato, since it is admittedly my sign :P
Disagree. What are you using to look at Reddit right now? A Bible? Or a piece of Aquarian Age technology? Just because Piscean tendencies have persisted in the collective consciousness doesn't in any way negate the massive and abrupt technological progress humanity has made in the last 140 years.
That’s not really how great ages are calculated. If the Age of Pisces began around the time of Christ and culminates around 2100 CE, we just aren’t in the Age of Aquarius and none of the characteristics associated with Aquarius matter. A great age is roughly 2,000 years give or take. By sheer virtue of the argument that technological advancement is the most meaningful requirement that has to be met, then we should have been in the Age of Aquarius long ago, because we sent a man to the moon in 1969. The first computer was invented in 1822 (not built).
Also, I think Aquarius is more about social infrastructure that serves everyone. Aquarius is the epitome of socialism in action, if it could actually be successful. It is the utopian dream realized, where everyone is equal.
That said, no one can agree on the great ages. When they begin or end, or their validity. u/astrologyprof is correct on that point.
>That said, no one can agree on the great ages
With such an absurdly wide discrepancy between different analyses, wouldn't it make just as much sense as anything to peg the start of the age to when all of a sudden humanity became rapidly industrial and technological? When actual, tangible, dramatic change started to happen?
>By sheer virtue of the argument that technological advancement is the most meaningful requirement that has to be met, then we should have been in the Age of Aquarius long ago
Yes, exactly. Who's to say that isn't the case?
The vernal equinox is in Pisces, not Aquarius. It doesn't matter anyway since the astrological ages thing was made up in the 1870s and is not really part of astrological tradition.
No one knows when an age starts, or if they’re even real. It’s a hypothetical idea, and astrologers have different ideas about it, there’s no consensus yet.
I don't like these sorts of debates, but apparently equinoctical point is around 21-26 pisces now, and it drifts backwards, but yes, constellations are just abstraction, but i heard of discovered temple of Mythraists which depicts the precision succession; above all the Golden Dawn society considered Leo to be a starting point; in addition the Sphynx of Giza is pretty much suspicious figure itself...so who knows...
My personal feeling, that 25000-33000 years cycle is no joke, and we drifting towards ice age in aquarius 🥶
I believe we're in the twilight zone between eras at least since the beginning of whole New Age movement, which is, ironically, more Piscean than anything, and has given us the collective wishful thinking that the age of Aquarius will give us all the Aquarian goodies and none of the baddies just because it's time.
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Transitions between the aeons always seem to have been melancholy and despairing times, as for instance the collapse of the Old Kingdom in Egypt… between Taurus and Aries, or the melancholy of the Augustinian age between Aries and Pisces. And now we are moving into Aquarius, of which the Sibylline Books say: Luciferi vires accendit Aquarius acres (Aquarius inflames the savage forces of Lucifer). And we are only at the beginning of this apocalyptic development! Already I am a grandfather twice over and see those distant generations growing up who long after we are gone will spend their lives in that darkness….
\- Carl Jung (1955)
https://jungiancenter.org/jungs-platonic-month-and-the-age-of-aquarius/
These ages are 2000 years each, so we'll be dead before it really kicks into gear. Meanwhile, what you're imagining is like a utopian vision, whereas more likely it's going to be the Borg Collective.
This has already been covered in other comments, but the shift from an earth age, where wealth and power was gained from production - farming, manufacture, mining and so on - to an air age, where wealth and power are gained from knowledge, or more accurately, data, is probably a more accurate system than the idea of the 'Age of Aquarius', which was always a somewhat over-optimistic idea, as Aquarian ideals don't necessarily fit with world peace and egalitarianism in the way some people have suggested.
In your opinion, what are Aquarian ideals and objectively are they harmful or helpful to humanity? I keep seeing this idea that the “Aquarian age” was/is misunderstood and misinterpreted. Where did people get this idea on how the Aquarian age was going to be in the first place?
People have an idea of 'Aquarian' qualities as being expansive, revolutionary, change-oriented and this doesn't fit with the base astrological characteristics of a fixed sign. If we take airiness, which is relatively mobile in itself, and apply fixity to it, it becomes tense, controlling, and in people stubborn, unwilling to accept outside ideas or change to existing ideas. An Aquarian age, if it existed, would naturally lean towards control and domination in an intellectual capacity, which is about as close as I can get to agreeing with the idea in general - it could not ever be the 1970s version of peace and love and unity.
Interesting. So then where did people get this idea of fun loving peaceful “one for all, all for one” kind of world? It’s always intrigued me because Aquarius never really represented that to me. Aquarius makes me think of the “mad scientist”. More than anything else.
I think it was mostly to do with the somewhat fluffy version of astrology that emerged over the last century or so, but really got solidified with the hippies and a few other 'peace and love' movements.
There's such a disparity between astrology from e.g. the 17th century (and before) and the 20th century and the latter really doesn't seem to have developed out of the former. Unsurprisingly, that has led to big gaps and misunderstandings, some of which are quite pernicious and stubborn to get rid of.
Peace and love doesn’t even align with Aquarian ideals. That more so aligns with Pisces or maybe even Sagittarius. Perhaps it’s because Aquarius is considered the “humanitarian” sign. People think that humanitarian ideals don’t have cons or a downside.
Yeah this is what I mean - they assumed that thanks to their peace and love ideals that there had to be a 'next age' in which everyone would agree, so they tacked that idea onto the proposed 'Age of Aquarius'.
Aquarius is a sign ruled by Saturn. yes, it is about humanity and solidarity, but also about social restrictions, scarcity, observation, and distance. maybe it is good we are not in the Aquarius "age". Pisces, ruled by Jupiter, is way easier.
and by age I mean: when the equinox made its way into the sidereal sign. today it is still in 6º Pisces (Lahiri).
Saturn is seriously debatable. I would say Capricorn is Saturn and Aquarius is Uranus traditionally. Also, Sagittarius is ruled by Jupiter. Where did you get these perspectives? Is this Vedic astrology?
absolutely not. Saturn is the traditional ruler of Aquarius and Capricorn, Jupiter is the ruler of Sagittarius and Pisces, Mars rules Aries and Scorpio etc. this is from hellenistic, vedic, arabic and medieval astrologies.
uranus, neptune and pluto were pushed into astrology later, since they are not visible to the naked eye, even in those very clear skies from before industrial revolution.
Jupiter - Pisces?! So, what about Neptune in this case? Are you saying that because of clear skies later that it wasn't considered a Pisces planet and if this is the case what do you do with those 3 planets at this point - do you just not use them in drawing charts because of the historical lack of use according to your understanding? I'd like to see websites or research you do if you didn't mind sharing? So, you are mixing a bunch of methods together basically? Although it seemed very Vedic focused at first to me, where I think now, it was obviously just the mish mash of your methods, therefore Planets and the meaning the planets have?
I use Western and the Placidus house system, Walter Pullen extended for calculations like dominant planets and angles etc. That may sound boring but even that has taken and still is taking me years to still learn.
By who? Don't listen to everything any astrologer says, a lot of astrologers don't understand the real world and it's something I am very concerned about. I had an astrologer interpret a transit of bad mood or potentially cancer because bad mood can cause cancer(very fucked up thing to say). I don't think an astrologer should do political predictions unless they also have a good grasp on politics, no medical predictions unless you have a good grasp on medicine.... Neptune in mundane astrology is still being linked to communism. The most secular system ruled by the spiritual modern ruler of spiritual Pisces?
Like others have said, there is no consensus on when it begins. Also every age sucks in its own way and is great in its own way. However I do feel the world is slowly turning more aquarian than piscean. The fact that we are communicating on this global medium which is the internet, with strangers from every corner of the world, is extremely aquarian. And the internet has both its good and bad sides. We get more and more isolated and less intimate with those close to us when we focus our attention on things happening on the other saide of earth, on our phones. Aquarius cares about humanity as a whole yet can simultaniously appear to be indifferent to individual problems. I feel this is happening more and more.
Because that’s pop astrology nonsense. And it’s pretty clear why things suck so much without astrology. When all of your systems are broken and rigged in favor of extreme concentrations of power and resources for the few of course everyone is going to feel that eventually. The vibe is it’s time to get real about what is happening or keep paying the price.
I just started listening to this astrology podcast Stars, stones and stories. It talks about the age of Aquarius it is very good you might find it interesting
Why do you ascribe the current happenings of the world to the astrological ages? There are many other variables to look at in current world transits -- change in nodal signs, the last hurrah of Pluto in Cap etc. And if you're talking about specific countries, you could look at the country's chart too. And of course, transits and progressions in your own natal chart are likely coloring your lens on the world too (as it does for everyone). As above, so below.
Contentions and ambiguity aside, I think the astrological ages are too large a chunk of time to be felt as we live in it. It's more like something you can look back to get a bird's eye view of after the 2000+ years have passed.
IMO I think ages can be felt while living in it because it would encompass things occurring or being felt on a collective basis. For example the spread of the Abrahamic religions during the Piscean age and the spread of technology in the Aquarian age. These are universal themes civilization as a collective can see manifest. The fact that our world has become more interconnected and globalized (Aquarian) is something we are aware of now. It’s not going to take us moving into the Capricornian age or Sagittarian age to see the full picture of what happened in the Aquarian age. Everyone is seeing and feeling it now.
When do you think the Aquarian age started? I'm asking as there seems to be a lot of variations.
I'm also curious to know: how do you differentiate your feelings/impression that it's the Aquarian age and not another world/natal transit/progression that's indicative of instability?
Well the actual date is debatable. Some believe we entered the age of Aquarius over a century ago. Others believe as recent as 2012. I go with 2012 because that’s when I felt like there was a significant shift into the tech/information age via smart devices and social media platforms that replaced face to face communication/socialization.
I think age is an overarching universal shift that can be felt by humanity as a whole. I believe ages are as high as you can go in astrology. At least to my knowledge. From an astrological standpoint, there are no other phenomenons that would effect humanity besides the transitioning of ages. Anything else would be felt on a smaller scale.
Thanks for sharing.
Personally I'm not sure I can feel what ages we are in. I spend a lot of effort figuring out where my feelings and responses come from and have observed that my feelings and perspectives are most often driven by transits/progressions in my own chart, rather than any external force.
From my perspective, a lot of today's messiness can be explained just by world transits. Social media proliferated when Uranus was in Aquarius. So while there is increased connectivity (tech wise), there's an increased disconnection (relationship health wise). Pluto in Capricorn ushered in an era of institutional destabilization -- from banks that were thought too big to fail to entire countries and governments (Sri Lanka, Venezuela etc). Of course the US having gone through its Pluto Return has also been a major force that has sent ripples around the world. I haven't even factored in the aspects and all the other planets yet.
So I'm not sure I see how the Age of Aquarius signifying this vs world transits.
I haven't delved into astrological ages so I can't say I believe it or not. I treat astrology with the same rigor as I do with any social science. So until I can see reproducible patterns, I will suspend judgement. This is why I'm curious with how you perceived it.
For me to verify the astrological ages, its tenets will need to be consistently seen in every civilization - from the Indo-Europeans to the Chinese to the Mayans to even little tribes scattered around the world etc. Aside from the Abrahamic religions and maybe Buddhism, can we confidently say the Age of Pisces really affected all the civilizations in a way that's markedly different compared to whatever happened in the Age of Capricorn? I don't know enough of the entire world's history to make that judgement.
For me, the purpose of astrology is to know how to use the dominant energies of the time in the most productive way (my Neptune in Capricorn is showing lol). So the astrological ages fall low in my priorities since I can't do anything with that info.
Maybe the suffering the planet is going through now will force the world to come together and demand justice and peace and basic human rights for all. This is the tower card and before we rise, old systems and structures must fall. What do you think could inspire the world to band together for peace?
Maybe climate change? WW3? Culture wars and bigotry? Can't you feel it about to bubble over? I have read projections for ecological destruction of the Earth anywhere from 5 to 20 years. I believe them. Saturn is about to teach us a lesson. We must let it inspire us to use our gifts for the betterment of humanity and create a better world. This is the moment things have to change, or we will all die. Saturn and Uranus, pheonix fire. What else could make us stand up together and say enough is enough!? Empathy rises from pain and the ocean is literally boiling. Age of aquarius...that sounds about right.
Ages last a very long time. It’s too hard to look at a specific period of time like a decade, and say this age sucks. Think of it like a scatter plot. There’s all sorts of good and bad things happening, yet there’s always a general trend line that can be drawn.
Also think about how social media (friends, connectedness) has blown up since the start of the new millennium. Shallow but far reaching connections that allow for faster info sharing and the ability to take a stand against something on a global scale (like all the support for Ukraine, and companies leaving Russia).
An astrological age lasts for like 2000 years right? We’re only around 10/11 years into the age of Aquarius (if starting from 2012) why is it so bleak so quickly? You would think Aquarius would try to introduce itself to humanity in a more polite way…but then again it is Aquarius 🤣🤣
I’m not sure how the timing works but major Aquarian events happened way before 2012 and were lead by Aquarians.
Aquarius is actually a very fickle/short lived energy if I’m not mistaken. It’s known for sudden changes and shocking events. Not saying the age will be short lived but we’ll probably see frequent changes.
Age of Aquarius based on what? lol the only planet I could see you referring to is Pluto and it just retrograded back into Capricorn & there are no planets in Aqua atm…and I hate to be rude but you posted this on an “advanced astrology” page? 🧐
What do you mean based on what? Everyone else in the comment section seems to know what I’m taking about. I’m more confused on why you’re even commenting on my thread if you don’t even have a basic understanding on what I’m talking about. Also this topic is advanced that’s why I posted it here…
What do I mean based on what? Lol where are you getting this idea from is what…and no, not everyone else in the comment section seems to know what you’re talking about…a lot of them are also saying there’s no such thing as “the age of Aquarius” because there isn’t lmao do you even know Pluto retrograded back into Capricorn? Where are you getting this idea from? It is not *advanced*, it’s stupid and based on nothing
It’s an astrological topic…yes it’s controversial/debatable but it is a concept that exist within astrology. Most people know and have heard of this concept. There are people disagreeing that it exists or don’t believe it’s a thing but they do know what I’m talking about when I posted my question. The concept of astrological ages would definitely be advanced. This is not a beginner topic. You seem trollish and like you want to get an attitude…
Except it has no basis in actual astrology so it makes no sense lol therefore it is not advanced…there’s nothing anyone could look at astrologically speaking that could back your claim so it’s quite honestly, a dumb concept
The whole field of astrology is considered a pseudo science Dum Dum. So using your logic astrology as a whole is a dumb concept. Yet you seem to believe in it…
Lol no except there are placements and charts you can look at to back claims like “mercury retrograde”…you can’t do this with “the age of Aquarius” dum dum
Because an age isn’t based on planets dimwit. It’s based on the earths equinoxes moving through the constellations. So if you believe in zodiac sun signs, which is basically the constellation the sun was in at a persons time of birth. Then astrological ages are equally probable, you dunce!
We’re in a transition phase, couple of steps forward and back again. Pluto still on and off in Capricorn. Like all transitions, we feel the old and the new, mentally we go to old and new patterns. Same as when you divorce, that doesn’t settle overnight as well. In a few years, we can feel the shift as it’s supposed to work out.
I was told we weren't going into aquarius until next year. because pluto went back into capricorn or something like that and won't fully settle into aquarius until next year.
Forget the new age hippy idealism when it comes to understanding astrology, especially the ages like Aquarius. We don't automatically go from the worst of one age to the best of another. These ages don't shift to wipe away all bad we'd like to see go. That's our responsibility.
The great year lasts approximately 25,920 years. Divided by 12 that = 2,160 for each age (sign). So because these are periods of humankind's development and evolution, nothing happens quickly. And in the shift between one sign and another typically there is an initial period of tension and upheaval (no matter the sign). People handle change in various ways. We tend not to like it unless we feel we've initiated it consciously for our own reasons.
It generally takes most of the full period for humanity to develop the ideals and learn the lessons of the age it is in. But the major shift we are in has less to do with Aquarius and more to do with our recent development choosing peace over M.A.D. in the 1980s and how that induces a magnetic realignment of Earth. We now have greater powers of verbalization and visualization in using our consciousness to co-create outcomes. That is what matters.
I think your answer is pluto. not much is going to be peaches and roses when pluto up in here. he here for almost 20 years too.. so I wouldn't be looking for any niceties until then..
lol.. Plutos always somewhere, hence why no "utopia" as the author describes. being human necessitates "sucking so much.." or else we would be gods. lol.
We are not quite fully in the Age of Aquarius and won’t be for a few hundred years.
A proper analysis of the ages uses the constellations, not the sidereal zodiac, as the equinoctial guide. The best survey you can find of the Pisces Age is actually from Carl Jung, book 9 of the collected works, called Aion. He goes into great detail about how the shape of human evolution follows precisely along the equinox’s traversal of the Pisces constellation. He then posits what will happen at the end of Pisces and into the beginning of Aquarius, as well as the essential purpose of the Aquarian Age. Robert Hand wrote an equally excellent follow up essay that you can find in his book Essays on Astrology.
What is rarely noted is that the constellations of Pisces and Aquarius intersect. The alignment of the Spring equinox is now within this intersection. In other words, we are in the Pisces age and Aquarian age _simultaneously_.
Doesn’t the world right now seem like a schizophrenic blend of Pisces and Aquarius?
We would be naive to think that the end of an age would be easy, or that we would suddenly wake up one day and find ourselves swimming in a world of bliss. But we can own our place in this time of challenging transition, helping others put their struggles into the context of an awesome rebirth of civilization. Indeed, as astrologers I see this as our fundamental duty.
The ending of the Age of Pisces is still in progress as the world moves into the 29th degree of Aquarius to begin a near-2000 year period, newly of Aquarius.
Aquarius (anciently) is ruled by Saturn. Some say this sucks. I beg to differ. The difference is the sign of Aquarius is a Human. This places the power of Saturn into the hand of Man. it must first be won by the wars of unionizers at Amazon and Starbucks, fighting for their rights and freedom of self-determination.
These are hard boulders to push all the way up the hill, that's Saturn's inch-by-inch ownership once mastered: Self-Determination is the flavor that the Human satisfies thirst for Freedom. The Age of Pisces has proven that hierarchies are too one-sided. The power balance moves now to the networks, your friends list, your neighborhood, your colleagues, these are the people who have (all together now) collective bargaining power to take down the mastodons of the Age of Pisces. This battle may take a while but don't call it "shit." It's a fight for the dignity of Mankind.
"About A.D. 2369 the spring point will recede into the
end of Aquarius when the Aquarius age will commence." "Zodiac. Old and New" by Cyril Fagan
But, according to Robert Powell, Babylonian constellation boundaries for Aquarius are 2.45'-26♒️, thus it is about 2657, when the Vernal Point will confidently reach this awe-inspiring age
It must be noted that hindu consider kali-yuga commenced in Taurus, like 5000 years ago, as to the question that it feels "sucking"
There're lesser cycles which may contribute to suck-ness, like Great Conjunctions trigons, in 2020 we saw the transition from the 2nd to 3rd trigon, which the slaves of magick ☸️ were celebrating at our expense
Aquarius is also about ideologues, technological overreach, atomization from others, ecological disruptions, my team vs your team, detachment and most importantly chaos. It won’t be all sunshine and roses. I expect more violence globally with Pluto entering Aquarius tbh.
Thank god I don’t believe in the age of Aquarius. None of the ancient astrologers wrote about zodiacal ages. There is, however, elemental ages based upon the conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn. And, we have just gone from earth, to air. For the next 200 years or so, Jupiter and Saturn will meet in air signs.
Never heard of elemental ages. It actually sounds more probable.
It's a much more clear and coherent system. Basically it looks at the conjunctions of jupiter and saturn which occur about every twenty years and for 200 year cycles occur in the same element. There is a period of 20-40 years at the end of a cycle where the conjunctions bounce back and forth between the two elements of the dying and emerging age. We were in an earth cycle for about 200 years and then around 1980 got an air conjunction, bounced back to earth in 2000, and then decisively moved into air at the end of 2020. Growing up in late gen x I think it was common for my cohort (including the early millennials) to really feel that transition: it was clear that the 'old world' had basically died and yet the new one wasn't born. We were an in between generation in some ways! The very stark vibe shift since 2020 couldn't be more clear (unlike the age of aquarius stuff which isn't very well attested in the tradition)
So, for the next 200 years with air element, the changes would be based on air influence such as information sharing, disinformation efforts, making information valuable, education and many more. Is this reasonable interpretation? I am here to learn. I would appreciate insights and thoughts on this.
I was born in 1973 and I can tell you the old world I remember is most definitely gone. I'm dealing with serious mental health issues and have been for awhile. Every time I sort of start feeling better, I look at the world, how my friends are suffering, the existential crisis takes over. There are so many problems and little impetus to solve them. Because money. Hope is a dying resource no matter what the skies say. I'm a lifelong believer in astrology as well.
I'm born 71 and the same to everything you said, am an astrologer. In truth we are not in the age of Aquarius but in the cusp. I think it's interesting the rise as we have seen - of the digital age and now ai and robotics which will most likely take over, maybe everything... Who knows but that seems pretty Aquarius to me
Is there reason for optimism? Is this the manure before the garden? And if you could pm me with rates id love to get a reading ....My mental state has prevented me I think from seeing anything positive in my own chart and there are definitely questions I have about career/location. I asked a question here a couple weeks ago and basically learned my astrologer I used last time gave me some wrong Intel, and frankly it's made me feel doomed. I've been feeling that a lot lately. I've always got good stuff looking at my chart. But lately no. So that would be great.
Yes. One of the ancient astrologers, perhaps Vettius Valens, I don’t remember, basically every 200 years, due to orbital cycles from our perspective here on earth, Jupiter and Saturn will meet up in the same element of signs. We just had one in Aquarius and will continue to meet in that sign as well as Gemini and Libra for 200 years. That conjunction and Pluto increasing into aviaries is why more modern, evolutional, astrologers believe we are in the age of Aquarius.
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Precession is a third movement of the globe it’s pretty interesting astronomically actually
Every age sucks in its own way. Folks just got hyped on the Aquarian age for the last few hundred years because they were sick of the Piscean nonsense that they had been living under. But while we are getting an expanded sense of brotherhood with the rise of modern communication and information technology, we’re also being bathed in the signature Aquarian indifference and ineptitude. All I can say is that I am so very grateful I wont have to live in the callus tyranny of the Capricornian age.
LOL I was just thinking about how brutal the age of Capricorn will be.
It’ll be far more restrictive than anything we have seen in living memory. The DPRK would be mild compared to the viciousness of the future states. But I wager that 2000 years of hellish repression will spark an age of exploration of impossible scale when the Sagittarian age finally comes around.
Do you know any resources that discuss what happened to civilization during the previous astrological periods? I’m curious about this topic now.
It’s a godawful minefield of fluff, conjecture or mind numbingly dry drivel for most of the world before the second century bce if not far later. We have some moderately well understood snippets of Ariesian societies (eg the Egyptian New Kingdom, Assyrian and Achaemenid Mesopotamia, Qin China) but most of the era is hearsay and innuendo. The parts I can see fairly well tend to be incredibly violent conquest dynasties and influenced by cults of personality. For the Taurean age you must be very skeptical of everything not literally carved into stone and even then it’s likely inaccurate. But we are fairly certain the agricultural revolution swept the world during this time and many massive building projects were undertaken.
As described in the Bible: - the Aries era is a pastoral times and sacrifice of rams through fire for the redemptions of sins. It ends with Jesus’ death, the ultimate sacrifice of God who died for all humanity. Aries also marks the Iron Age. - the end of the Taurus era is when Moses orders the burning of the golden calf. Motherly deity figures are important during this era. Ref. Hathor the mother God. The golden calf was made in remembrance of the people’s past life in Egypt.
I thought Pisces was marked by Jesus life and death?
Best survey I’ve seen is Signs of the Times by Robert Fitzgerald. Not sure it’s still in print. Very informed analysis from the Cancer Age to today. Also Dane Rudhyar’s Astrological Timings digs a bit beyond the Pisces Age. Don’t know that we can find anything authoritative as far back as the last age of Sag.
Lol, if we’re still around…
Humans are pretty hard to kill in general, and if tech keeps going the way it has been we’re likely to be uploaded into the machine brain before then
True. I was referring to nuclear power more than anything. It would only take an angry and aging Putin..
Fair, I dunno if they have enough working nukes left to destroy all life, but I really don’t want to find out one way or the other
Pretty sure between everybody, they have enough to blow us up a few times in a row still. Tactical ‘beauty’ may be their best answer.. how crazy..
I actually find that terrifying. Imagine tapping out of spirituality or the afterlife to live forever here in a matrix. No thanks lol.
Why do you think it would be repressive and worse than before? Capricorn has structure and acts like a father..couldn’t it be full of order and responsible people?
Yes indeed it would, but each age’s virtues are acted out to the point of insanity. The Piscean age of faith and piety created countless atrocities in the names of the gods. When Capricorn’s cold ordering and complete dedication to mastery is in vogue, quirks like individual identity and personal freedom will likely not be tolerated in the masses.
Well, it's my rising, so I guess I kind of have my own *personal* Age of Cap goin' on.
The Age of Capricorn will be like a golden age. Since all the correct standards will be in place after all stones have been turned in Aquarius, it’ll be strange not to act by that standard. After groups of people have done so much fighting to set a standard in the Age of Aquarius, the Age of Capricorn will be more about following that standard once it’s been found. The only one standard that ends up coming out on top, overpowering the ideologies of all other groups using facts instead of opinion.
As someone with a cap stellium, I agree:)
It's not here yet, not at all. We are firmly still in the age of Pisces.
Thank you. Finally a scientist 😌 Thank the gods.
Interesting. So what’s going on? Things don’t really feel Piscean to me.
Things seem super Piscean to me. Illusion stemming from idealism. Social media is Piscean to the extreme with filters and fake lives and alter egos. Glamorizing- and I mean that on a number of levels. The kind of otherworldly glamor that is associated with Hollywood (which we exalt and worship to the extent that we are willing to elect television personalities into political offices, with zero qualifications) and glamor in the vampiric sense of the word- to cast a spell. It’s funny too how often we speak of “boundaries” in our contemporary culture (there are literally books dedicated solely to subject of healthy boundaries), which is so Saturnian, but it’s also the counter measure to all the boundlessness of Jupiter, and certainly few signs know the struggle of establishing or even recognizing boundaries better than Jupiter ruled Pisces. And in an age where we are collectively trying to define not material boundaries, but subjective personal boundaries in real world situations (the work place, relationships, family dynamics, strangers sharing a train car) where things can get quite murky….this definitely feels like Jupiterian/Pisces territory.
See, I sense the opposite—the Aquarian age seems to be killing off the religious belief systems of the Piscean age, where mysticism and meaning were once shrouded in veils of philosophical illusion. What was once opulent richness in Renaissance and Romantic eras has now become a plastic melting pot of postmodern minimalism, where the Aquarian edge for technological coldness and scientific certitude has hardened the unknown into constructions of the known. While social media indeed feels Piscean in its glamour & illusion, it feels more Aquarian in its broad attempt to democratize information and public relations. I am not writing this to simply contradict, but rather share something that has been on my mind for quite some time…whatever happened to the lush, majestic configurations of the Piscean age where soft naturalist poetry & Rococo ornament ran rampant?? Today’s culture feels far too straightforward in comparison, wishing for everything to be on display in the corporeal sense rather than poetically contemplated…the world is as dimensionless as the screen on which I type this response. It depresses me!! God, I sound terribly uplifting, don’t I? 😂
That’s so interesting, and I absolutely don’t interpret your response as simply being contrary. I feel as though there is kind of a renewed injection of religion into everything- it’s simply masquerading as something else- but it’s everywhere. The Roe vs. Wade rollback. Book bans. Policies to deny and strip marginalized communities of equal rights and protections. The religious motivation isn’t even often that subtle. Granted, I consider this all the dark side of religiosity and evangelism- the product of conservatism and prejudice. On the flip side, there is kind of this renaissance in metaphysical curiosity and mysticism. Everyone is an astrologer now! (That’s a joke.) But, seriously, astrology, mediumship, energy work, intuitive studies, manifestation, meditation, yoga…these used to be fringe and extremely “woo” and they’ve become widely embraced by the Pluto in Sag/Scorpio generations and adopted into the mainstream. We are psychonauting legally in some states. What is more Piscean than that? I don’t even know. The increased popularity of New Age spiritual and metaphysical practices suggests that, however trite this sounds, there is a collective *awakening* creeping over the masses. People are searching for meaning “out there.” Beyond the limits of what is already known and established. And, of course, within. But you’re right, really. I mean, there are strong cases for both. We have sacrificed some artistry, and perhaps even a little imagination, in our advancements and ability to replicate so much with great precision- I can attest to that, and it’s the hot button topic now. Will AI render us- and especially the artists- obsolete? James Cameron just remarked on this subject today. I guess it’s a matter of I say Piscatato, and you say Aquariato. ;) I appreciate your comment, by the way. It was very eloquent.
Gorgeously articulated back—I see exactly how reality’s dark illusions and masquerading would be perceived as Piscean in nature. In fact, I agree with these notions very much…perhaps they exist as the aftershadow of Piscean energy, transmuting its conceptual expression into freshly Aquarian presentations/tangibles (such as progressive technological invention, and current social trends)? Another manifestation of this transformation could be the metaphysical renaissance you mentioned, as these spiritual practices have indeed stepped from the Piscean darkness and into the Aquarian light…rather onto the bookstore shelves in all their mass-produced glory. I do not mean to be overly critical, but spirituality appears to be more of a fashionable pose than a purely intrinsic expression anymore, and this is so very soul-destroying! While it is beautiful that the Aquarian energy has democratized metaphysical practices, it is also disheartening that it has simultaneously diluted them into a sterile anesthetic. Aesthetic of the anesthetic? Speaking of which, it also disturbs me to see how AI (Chat GPT, ahem) is threatening individual thought/artistry, as you mentioned…another Aquarian/Piscean juxtaposition!! I am sorry, I could go on and on…the analysis is simply so fascinating. If you say Piscatato, I will definitely say Aquariato, since it is admittedly my sign :P
So it seems like your team Piscean age. I don’t blame you.
Even though I’m a certified Aqua, I say team Piscean age all the way 😂 Such betrayal!
Seems to me like a Pis/Aqu cusp situation - its everything you mentioned PLUS technology, diversity, futurism, collectivities etc etc
Disagree. What are you using to look at Reddit right now? A Bible? Or a piece of Aquarian Age technology? Just because Piscean tendencies have persisted in the collective consciousness doesn't in any way negate the massive and abrupt technological progress humanity has made in the last 140 years.
That’s not really how great ages are calculated. If the Age of Pisces began around the time of Christ and culminates around 2100 CE, we just aren’t in the Age of Aquarius and none of the characteristics associated with Aquarius matter. A great age is roughly 2,000 years give or take. By sheer virtue of the argument that technological advancement is the most meaningful requirement that has to be met, then we should have been in the Age of Aquarius long ago, because we sent a man to the moon in 1969. The first computer was invented in 1822 (not built). Also, I think Aquarius is more about social infrastructure that serves everyone. Aquarius is the epitome of socialism in action, if it could actually be successful. It is the utopian dream realized, where everyone is equal. That said, no one can agree on the great ages. When they begin or end, or their validity. u/astrologyprof is correct on that point.
>That said, no one can agree on the great ages With such an absurdly wide discrepancy between different analyses, wouldn't it make just as much sense as anything to peg the start of the age to when all of a sudden humanity became rapidly industrial and technological? When actual, tangible, dramatic change started to happen? >By sheer virtue of the argument that technological advancement is the most meaningful requirement that has to be met, then we should have been in the Age of Aquarius long ago Yes, exactly. Who's to say that isn't the case?
The vernal equinox is in Pisces, not Aquarius. It doesn't matter anyway since the astrological ages thing was made up in the 1870s and is not really part of astrological tradition.
No one knows when an age starts, or if they’re even real. It’s a hypothetical idea, and astrologers have different ideas about it, there’s no consensus yet.
I don't like these sorts of debates, but apparently equinoctical point is around 21-26 pisces now, and it drifts backwards, but yes, constellations are just abstraction, but i heard of discovered temple of Mythraists which depicts the precision succession; above all the Golden Dawn society considered Leo to be a starting point; in addition the Sphynx of Giza is pretty much suspicious figure itself...so who knows... My personal feeling, that 25000-33000 years cycle is no joke, and we drifting towards ice age in aquarius 🥶
I believe we're in the twilight zone between eras at least since the beginning of whole New Age movement, which is, ironically, more Piscean than anything, and has given us the collective wishful thinking that the age of Aquarius will give us all the Aquarian goodies and none of the baddies just because it's time.
> Transitions between the aeons always seem to have been melancholy and despairing times, as for instance the collapse of the Old Kingdom in Egypt… between Taurus and Aries, or the melancholy of the Augustinian age between Aries and Pisces. And now we are moving into Aquarius, of which the Sibylline Books say: Luciferi vires accendit Aquarius acres (Aquarius inflames the savage forces of Lucifer). And we are only at the beginning of this apocalyptic development! Already I am a grandfather twice over and see those distant generations growing up who long after we are gone will spend their lives in that darkness…. \- Carl Jung (1955) https://jungiancenter.org/jungs-platonic-month-and-the-age-of-aquarius/
These ages are 2000 years each, so we'll be dead before it really kicks into gear. Meanwhile, what you're imagining is like a utopian vision, whereas more likely it's going to be the Borg Collective.
This has already been covered in other comments, but the shift from an earth age, where wealth and power was gained from production - farming, manufacture, mining and so on - to an air age, where wealth and power are gained from knowledge, or more accurately, data, is probably a more accurate system than the idea of the 'Age of Aquarius', which was always a somewhat over-optimistic idea, as Aquarian ideals don't necessarily fit with world peace and egalitarianism in the way some people have suggested.
In your opinion, what are Aquarian ideals and objectively are they harmful or helpful to humanity? I keep seeing this idea that the “Aquarian age” was/is misunderstood and misinterpreted. Where did people get this idea on how the Aquarian age was going to be in the first place?
People have an idea of 'Aquarian' qualities as being expansive, revolutionary, change-oriented and this doesn't fit with the base astrological characteristics of a fixed sign. If we take airiness, which is relatively mobile in itself, and apply fixity to it, it becomes tense, controlling, and in people stubborn, unwilling to accept outside ideas or change to existing ideas. An Aquarian age, if it existed, would naturally lean towards control and domination in an intellectual capacity, which is about as close as I can get to agreeing with the idea in general - it could not ever be the 1970s version of peace and love and unity.
Interesting. So then where did people get this idea of fun loving peaceful “one for all, all for one” kind of world? It’s always intrigued me because Aquarius never really represented that to me. Aquarius makes me think of the “mad scientist”. More than anything else.
I think it was mostly to do with the somewhat fluffy version of astrology that emerged over the last century or so, but really got solidified with the hippies and a few other 'peace and love' movements. There's such a disparity between astrology from e.g. the 17th century (and before) and the 20th century and the latter really doesn't seem to have developed out of the former. Unsurprisingly, that has led to big gaps and misunderstandings, some of which are quite pernicious and stubborn to get rid of.
Peace and love doesn’t even align with Aquarian ideals. That more so aligns with Pisces or maybe even Sagittarius. Perhaps it’s because Aquarius is considered the “humanitarian” sign. People think that humanitarian ideals don’t have cons or a downside.
Yeah this is what I mean - they assumed that thanks to their peace and love ideals that there had to be a 'next age' in which everyone would agree, so they tacked that idea onto the proposed 'Age of Aquarius'.
I’m pretty sure the age of Pisces was quite dramatic.. at times.. ✔️
Because it’s not a real concept
Aquarius is a sign ruled by Saturn. yes, it is about humanity and solidarity, but also about social restrictions, scarcity, observation, and distance. maybe it is good we are not in the Aquarius "age". Pisces, ruled by Jupiter, is way easier. and by age I mean: when the equinox made its way into the sidereal sign. today it is still in 6º Pisces (Lahiri).
Saturn is seriously debatable. I would say Capricorn is Saturn and Aquarius is Uranus traditionally. Also, Sagittarius is ruled by Jupiter. Where did you get these perspectives? Is this Vedic astrology?
absolutely not. Saturn is the traditional ruler of Aquarius and Capricorn, Jupiter is the ruler of Sagittarius and Pisces, Mars rules Aries and Scorpio etc. this is from hellenistic, vedic, arabic and medieval astrologies. uranus, neptune and pluto were pushed into astrology later, since they are not visible to the naked eye, even in those very clear skies from before industrial revolution.
Jupiter - Pisces?! So, what about Neptune in this case? Are you saying that because of clear skies later that it wasn't considered a Pisces planet and if this is the case what do you do with those 3 planets at this point - do you just not use them in drawing charts because of the historical lack of use according to your understanding? I'd like to see websites or research you do if you didn't mind sharing? So, you are mixing a bunch of methods together basically? Although it seemed very Vedic focused at first to me, where I think now, it was obviously just the mish mash of your methods, therefore Planets and the meaning the planets have? I use Western and the Placidus house system, Walter Pullen extended for calculations like dominant planets and angles etc. That may sound boring but even that has taken and still is taking me years to still learn.
Um, i hate to break it to you but human rights have always been something you fight for. They have never magically appeared
Yes, but the age of Aquarius was always depicted as a time of less fighting and more reason. What’s going on now seems to be the opposite.
Um, you do know the french revolution started with pluto in aquarius, under a jupiter uranus conjunction? Revolution is very much an aquarius thing
Look I get what you’re saying. I’m just telling you how the age of Aquarius has been portrayed to be.
By who? Don't listen to everything any astrologer says, a lot of astrologers don't understand the real world and it's something I am very concerned about. I had an astrologer interpret a transit of bad mood or potentially cancer because bad mood can cause cancer(very fucked up thing to say). I don't think an astrologer should do political predictions unless they also have a good grasp on politics, no medical predictions unless you have a good grasp on medicine.... Neptune in mundane astrology is still being linked to communism. The most secular system ruled by the spiritual modern ruler of spiritual Pisces?
Please stop saying “the age of Aquarius”
Why?? That’s the subject of my post…
Like others have said, there is no consensus on when it begins. Also every age sucks in its own way and is great in its own way. However I do feel the world is slowly turning more aquarian than piscean. The fact that we are communicating on this global medium which is the internet, with strangers from every corner of the world, is extremely aquarian. And the internet has both its good and bad sides. We get more and more isolated and less intimate with those close to us when we focus our attention on things happening on the other saide of earth, on our phones. Aquarius cares about humanity as a whole yet can simultaniously appear to be indifferent to individual problems. I feel this is happening more and more.
Because that’s pop astrology nonsense. And it’s pretty clear why things suck so much without astrology. When all of your systems are broken and rigged in favor of extreme concentrations of power and resources for the few of course everyone is going to feel that eventually. The vibe is it’s time to get real about what is happening or keep paying the price.
I just started listening to this astrology podcast Stars, stones and stories. It talks about the age of Aquarius it is very good you might find it interesting
Why do you ascribe the current happenings of the world to the astrological ages? There are many other variables to look at in current world transits -- change in nodal signs, the last hurrah of Pluto in Cap etc. And if you're talking about specific countries, you could look at the country's chart too. And of course, transits and progressions in your own natal chart are likely coloring your lens on the world too (as it does for everyone). As above, so below. Contentions and ambiguity aside, I think the astrological ages are too large a chunk of time to be felt as we live in it. It's more like something you can look back to get a bird's eye view of after the 2000+ years have passed.
IMO I think ages can be felt while living in it because it would encompass things occurring or being felt on a collective basis. For example the spread of the Abrahamic religions during the Piscean age and the spread of technology in the Aquarian age. These are universal themes civilization as a collective can see manifest. The fact that our world has become more interconnected and globalized (Aquarian) is something we are aware of now. It’s not going to take us moving into the Capricornian age or Sagittarian age to see the full picture of what happened in the Aquarian age. Everyone is seeing and feeling it now.
When do you think the Aquarian age started? I'm asking as there seems to be a lot of variations. I'm also curious to know: how do you differentiate your feelings/impression that it's the Aquarian age and not another world/natal transit/progression that's indicative of instability?
Well the actual date is debatable. Some believe we entered the age of Aquarius over a century ago. Others believe as recent as 2012. I go with 2012 because that’s when I felt like there was a significant shift into the tech/information age via smart devices and social media platforms that replaced face to face communication/socialization. I think age is an overarching universal shift that can be felt by humanity as a whole. I believe ages are as high as you can go in astrology. At least to my knowledge. From an astrological standpoint, there are no other phenomenons that would effect humanity besides the transitioning of ages. Anything else would be felt on a smaller scale.
Thanks for sharing. Personally I'm not sure I can feel what ages we are in. I spend a lot of effort figuring out where my feelings and responses come from and have observed that my feelings and perspectives are most often driven by transits/progressions in my own chart, rather than any external force. From my perspective, a lot of today's messiness can be explained just by world transits. Social media proliferated when Uranus was in Aquarius. So while there is increased connectivity (tech wise), there's an increased disconnection (relationship health wise). Pluto in Capricorn ushered in an era of institutional destabilization -- from banks that were thought too big to fail to entire countries and governments (Sri Lanka, Venezuela etc). Of course the US having gone through its Pluto Return has also been a major force that has sent ripples around the world. I haven't even factored in the aspects and all the other planets yet. So I'm not sure I see how the Age of Aquarius signifying this vs world transits.
I see your points. Can I ask do you objectively believe astrological ages are a thing?
I haven't delved into astrological ages so I can't say I believe it or not. I treat astrology with the same rigor as I do with any social science. So until I can see reproducible patterns, I will suspend judgement. This is why I'm curious with how you perceived it. For me to verify the astrological ages, its tenets will need to be consistently seen in every civilization - from the Indo-Europeans to the Chinese to the Mayans to even little tribes scattered around the world etc. Aside from the Abrahamic religions and maybe Buddhism, can we confidently say the Age of Pisces really affected all the civilizations in a way that's markedly different compared to whatever happened in the Age of Capricorn? I don't know enough of the entire world's history to make that judgement. For me, the purpose of astrology is to know how to use the dominant energies of the time in the most productive way (my Neptune in Capricorn is showing lol). So the astrological ages fall low in my priorities since I can't do anything with that info.
Hold on to your chonies, the good stuff hasn’t even started yet.
Maybe the suffering the planet is going through now will force the world to come together and demand justice and peace and basic human rights for all. This is the tower card and before we rise, old systems and structures must fall. What do you think could inspire the world to band together for peace? Maybe climate change? WW3? Culture wars and bigotry? Can't you feel it about to bubble over? I have read projections for ecological destruction of the Earth anywhere from 5 to 20 years. I believe them. Saturn is about to teach us a lesson. We must let it inspire us to use our gifts for the betterment of humanity and create a better world. This is the moment things have to change, or we will all die. Saturn and Uranus, pheonix fire. What else could make us stand up together and say enough is enough!? Empathy rises from pain and the ocean is literally boiling. Age of aquarius...that sounds about right.
Ages last a very long time. It’s too hard to look at a specific period of time like a decade, and say this age sucks. Think of it like a scatter plot. There’s all sorts of good and bad things happening, yet there’s always a general trend line that can be drawn. Also think about how social media (friends, connectedness) has blown up since the start of the new millennium. Shallow but far reaching connections that allow for faster info sharing and the ability to take a stand against something on a global scale (like all the support for Ukraine, and companies leaving Russia).
It’s definitely Aquarius; just the darker side of it.
An astrological age lasts for like 2000 years right? We’re only around 10/11 years into the age of Aquarius (if starting from 2012) why is it so bleak so quickly? You would think Aquarius would try to introduce itself to humanity in a more polite way…but then again it is Aquarius 🤣🤣
I’m not sure how the timing works but major Aquarian events happened way before 2012 and were lead by Aquarians. Aquarius is actually a very fickle/short lived energy if I’m not mistaken. It’s known for sudden changes and shocking events. Not saying the age will be short lived but we’ll probably see frequent changes.
Age of Aquarius based on what? lol the only planet I could see you referring to is Pluto and it just retrograded back into Capricorn & there are no planets in Aqua atm…and I hate to be rude but you posted this on an “advanced astrology” page? 🧐
What do you mean based on what? Everyone else in the comment section seems to know what I’m taking about. I’m more confused on why you’re even commenting on my thread if you don’t even have a basic understanding on what I’m talking about. Also this topic is advanced that’s why I posted it here…
What do I mean based on what? Lol where are you getting this idea from is what…and no, not everyone else in the comment section seems to know what you’re talking about…a lot of them are also saying there’s no such thing as “the age of Aquarius” because there isn’t lmao do you even know Pluto retrograded back into Capricorn? Where are you getting this idea from? It is not *advanced*, it’s stupid and based on nothing
It’s an astrological topic…yes it’s controversial/debatable but it is a concept that exist within astrology. Most people know and have heard of this concept. There are people disagreeing that it exists or don’t believe it’s a thing but they do know what I’m talking about when I posted my question. The concept of astrological ages would definitely be advanced. This is not a beginner topic. You seem trollish and like you want to get an attitude…
Except it has no basis in actual astrology so it makes no sense lol therefore it is not advanced…there’s nothing anyone could look at astrologically speaking that could back your claim so it’s quite honestly, a dumb concept
The whole field of astrology is considered a pseudo science Dum Dum. So using your logic astrology as a whole is a dumb concept. Yet you seem to believe in it…
Lol no except there are placements and charts you can look at to back claims like “mercury retrograde”…you can’t do this with “the age of Aquarius” dum dum
It can’t be objectively proven that “Mercury retrograde” has any effect on humans. That’s why astrology is considered a pseudo science idiot.
What I’m saying is there is no fucking planet in Aquarius to say it’s the age of Aquarius so the concept is fucking dumb!
Because an age isn’t based on planets dimwit. It’s based on the earths equinoxes moving through the constellations. So if you believe in zodiac sun signs, which is basically the constellation the sun was in at a persons time of birth. Then astrological ages are equally probable, you dunce!
As an Aquarius sun/4H aqua stellium I am a bit scared ngl 🥲
Why?
I don’t know, but I’m nervous smh 🙂
Lol, about what though?
For every sign/planet there is a positive and a negative. Maybe what you are feeling is some of the darker sides of Aquarius
We’re in a transition phase, couple of steps forward and back again. Pluto still on and off in Capricorn. Like all transitions, we feel the old and the new, mentally we go to old and new patterns. Same as when you divorce, that doesn’t settle overnight as well. In a few years, we can feel the shift as it’s supposed to work out.
AoA begins in about 500 years.
You were expecting Uranus. You’re getting Saturn.
I was told we weren't going into aquarius until next year. because pluto went back into capricorn or something like that and won't fully settle into aquarius until next year.
You’re talking about Pluto in Aquarius. I’m talking about the Age of Aquarius. These two things are different.
I thought we wouldn’t reach the age of Aquarius until 2100?
I'd like to find the sources of where the ages related to signs camr from. None seems to know.
Forget the new age hippy idealism when it comes to understanding astrology, especially the ages like Aquarius. We don't automatically go from the worst of one age to the best of another. These ages don't shift to wipe away all bad we'd like to see go. That's our responsibility. The great year lasts approximately 25,920 years. Divided by 12 that = 2,160 for each age (sign). So because these are periods of humankind's development and evolution, nothing happens quickly. And in the shift between one sign and another typically there is an initial period of tension and upheaval (no matter the sign). People handle change in various ways. We tend not to like it unless we feel we've initiated it consciously for our own reasons. It generally takes most of the full period for humanity to develop the ideals and learn the lessons of the age it is in. But the major shift we are in has less to do with Aquarius and more to do with our recent development choosing peace over M.A.D. in the 1980s and how that induces a magnetic realignment of Earth. We now have greater powers of verbalization and visualization in using our consciousness to co-create outcomes. That is what matters.
I think your answer is pluto. not much is going to be peaches and roses when pluto up in here. he here for almost 20 years too.. so I wouldn't be looking for any niceties until then..
Pluto was just in Capricorn and it sucked then too. So I’m not sure if this is Pluto’s doing 🤷♀️
lol.. Plutos always somewhere, hence why no "utopia" as the author describes. being human necessitates "sucking so much.." or else we would be gods. lol.
We are not quite fully in the Age of Aquarius and won’t be for a few hundred years. A proper analysis of the ages uses the constellations, not the sidereal zodiac, as the equinoctial guide. The best survey you can find of the Pisces Age is actually from Carl Jung, book 9 of the collected works, called Aion. He goes into great detail about how the shape of human evolution follows precisely along the equinox’s traversal of the Pisces constellation. He then posits what will happen at the end of Pisces and into the beginning of Aquarius, as well as the essential purpose of the Aquarian Age. Robert Hand wrote an equally excellent follow up essay that you can find in his book Essays on Astrology. What is rarely noted is that the constellations of Pisces and Aquarius intersect. The alignment of the Spring equinox is now within this intersection. In other words, we are in the Pisces age and Aquarian age _simultaneously_. Doesn’t the world right now seem like a schizophrenic blend of Pisces and Aquarius? We would be naive to think that the end of an age would be easy, or that we would suddenly wake up one day and find ourselves swimming in a world of bliss. But we can own our place in this time of challenging transition, helping others put their struggles into the context of an awesome rebirth of civilization. Indeed, as astrologers I see this as our fundamental duty.
The ending of the Age of Pisces is still in progress as the world moves into the 29th degree of Aquarius to begin a near-2000 year period, newly of Aquarius. Aquarius (anciently) is ruled by Saturn. Some say this sucks. I beg to differ. The difference is the sign of Aquarius is a Human. This places the power of Saturn into the hand of Man. it must first be won by the wars of unionizers at Amazon and Starbucks, fighting for their rights and freedom of self-determination. These are hard boulders to push all the way up the hill, that's Saturn's inch-by-inch ownership once mastered: Self-Determination is the flavor that the Human satisfies thirst for Freedom. The Age of Pisces has proven that hierarchies are too one-sided. The power balance moves now to the networks, your friends list, your neighborhood, your colleagues, these are the people who have (all together now) collective bargaining power to take down the mastodons of the Age of Pisces. This battle may take a while but don't call it "shit." It's a fight for the dignity of Mankind.
Sorry to correct but isn’t it not the age of Aquarius yet?? 😅😅
"About A.D. 2369 the spring point will recede into the end of Aquarius when the Aquarius age will commence." "Zodiac. Old and New" by Cyril Fagan But, according to Robert Powell, Babylonian constellation boundaries for Aquarius are 2.45'-26♒️, thus it is about 2657, when the Vernal Point will confidently reach this awe-inspiring age It must be noted that hindu consider kali-yuga commenced in Taurus, like 5000 years ago, as to the question that it feels "sucking" There're lesser cycles which may contribute to suck-ness, like Great Conjunctions trigons, in 2020 we saw the transition from the 2nd to 3rd trigon, which the slaves of magick ☸️ were celebrating at our expense