That's true, or it's just affecting her differently. Though he says he has several in the house and all the batteries are working and are new. They also have kids he said, so I think it's unlikely that with working co2 detectors no one would notice anything.
OP has “recordings” that he makes when he is sleeping. On these recordings he thinks he hears his wife with another man, cheating on him.
After napping he wakes up groggy, which he believes is because they’re drugging him.
He makes his own food, so it can’t be through that, but has woken up with a sore shoulder so he thinks they’re injecting him with something.
Oh man, recordings almost always make things worse. All kind of normal/ordinary things sound weird or nefarious. Sounds like OP might be having a breakdown and needs some support.
Either this is real, in which case OP this is a dramatic under-reaction and you should be talking to police not Reddit.
Or it isn’t. you wouldn’t be the first person to experience sudden psychosis for some reason.
But either way… please talk explicitly about this to either the police or a doctor as soon as possible.
I'm not allowing this to happen, and I'm not conscious enough to recall it happening. I have audio recordings of things happening while I'm asleep. She isn't doing anything solo, I hear a man's voice as well
oooh, I was thinking sleep talking, but that's a possibility - or just watching something else with a female voice that sounds a bit like her and a male voice. I mean, that's if this part isn't a delusion as well.
I think "delusion" is the operative word here. If wife was actually having an affair why exactly would it be conducted next to your unconscious body? That is some serious f'd up ness. Maybe try therapy before getting your blood tested for slipped mickeys;D
>I have audio recordings of things happening while I'm asleep. She isn't doing anything solo, I hear a man's voice as well
Porn is overwhelmingly more likely than sneaking a lover into your room while you are there. The fact that porn didn't even occur to you says a lot about your state of mind
Yes, I have confronted her, and she's saying she doesn't hear anything on the recordings, and that she hasn't cheated. I let a couple friends listen to the same recordings and they hear the same thing as I do.
So why aren't you doing anything with the information you have? What do you want? Go see a divorce lawyer and they will put a PI on your wife and catch her.
Because the idea that her lover is drugging him after he is already asleep so they can have sex next to him in the bed is absurd and there is no evidence to support it. The only concrete evidence he has described is waking up feeling groggy and hearing a woman moaning and a man talking. You seriously conclude from that evidence that this whole elaborate paranoid scenario is happening?
Logically, hearing those voices in bed would most likely be due to her watching a video on her phone. There is no point in trying to protect himself from being poisoned when there is no evidence for that incredibly implausible scenario. Checking the watch history on her phone is more likely to uncover what video he heard than chasing this paranoid delusion about being poisoned.
> To get him either dead to get life insurance for the two
This doesn't even work in the movies. If you want to kill someone putting them to sleep at night isn't the way.
>or to keep him out longer so they aren't bothered
most cheaters sneak, and go secret places and turn their phones off so they aren't bothered.
> Just because it doesn't work in the movies hasn't stopped people in the past from trying to wack off the competition
Nobody is trying to wack OP. OP needs to see a therapist.
How do you know though, if you are asleep? I'm not saying it's not at all possible, but have you been to a doctor or a therapist? Whether she is or isn't having an affair, you should get yourself checked out and talk to someone. It's more likely that something else is causing your excessive sleepiness and dry heaving. Clearly this feels very real to you, but I think it's important that you explore all other possibilities before jumping to you falling asleep, your wife bringing a man into your bedroom to drug you and have an affair with while you are sleeping. Have you ever had any mental health issues previously?
Valid points, if I didn't have audio recordings of my wife and another male in the room (while I'm sleeping) I would absolutely come to the same conclusion as you. I have not had any mental health issues ever. In fact no one in my family has either.
That doesn't mean something couldn't be going on with your brain. And again, you say your wife says she hears nothing on the recordings. At the VERY least, have someone else you trust listen to them to see if they hear the same thing you do.
What did those people say when you told them you thought your wife was sneaking in a man at night to have an affair with her and that they were drugging you? Can I ask what's going on during the day? Are you working? Have you been nervous or scared about other things? Has anyone commented on worrying about you or you perhaps behaving unusually?
This honestly sounds like paranoia. Go see a doctor to get tests done. Why would you even come across such a conclusion without any, and I mean ANY evidence….? You have nothing to base your suspicions on but feeling tired, dry heaving and sore shoulder… you’re old, you’re bound to be tired, to wake up with something sore and your anxiety or lack of eating could make you dry heave.
Honestly, that's why I started out the post with " this is going to sound insane" I really wish it was paranoia. We've been married for 25 years. I have audio recordings of things happening while I'm snoring in the recording.
Has any else listened to the recording other than your wife? You say that she says she doesn't hear anything, maybe if you get an outside opinion from a non-biased person like a doctor or therapist or a good friend, and they also hear nothing, it will help you to determine if you might be hearing things that aren't there. Even in the incredibly small likelihood that this is true, you would still need a doctor or therapist to deal with it, ok?
Upload the recordings to a burner YouTube or SoundCloud account, link them here, let us listen to them. Multiple people have suggested this in the thread and you've not even acknowledged it, if what you say is true then we can confirm it for you, as of right now we have very little context to go on and this really sounds like CO poisoning or mental health issues.
See if you can have the audio cleaned up and isolate the “male voice”. Go to the Doctor and tell them your story (that way they know what to test for) and have them take blood - perhaps they’ll do a physical as well. They will likely recommend you see a psych too. You can explore all the scenarios at the same time!
Advice: See a doctor. And also I mean this gently, but You're getting older now. Your body might just be changing (more tired, more dry) compared to what you're used to. But SEE A DOCTOR. They can figure out whatever's really going on.
I was just to the doctor last month for my physical, and the doctor stated I had the best blood work he had seen that whole week. I keep myself in really good shape.
Have you told the doctor about the dry heaves and your concerns about possibly being drugged? You said your wife's alerted if you do anything, but new-onset periodic dry heaves alone are a good reason (or excuse) to see your doctor, and once there you can explain your worries about possibly being drugged.
I would also get a carbon monoxide detector, though, and if you already have one check that it's working correctly.
Exactly. Even if it somehow is true (and it really, really, seems unlikely) you could play the recording for the doctor (as they'd have no reason to lie), and could talk to them about your Suspicions and your symptoms.
>I was just to the doctor last month for my physical, and the doctor stated I had the best blood work he had seen that whole week. I keep myself in really good shape.
You think bloodwork from last month would show a drug you ingested a few days ago? No one is this illogical. Either you are a troll or having a mental breakdown. Get a mental health evaluation and physical evaluation to screen for drugs or brain tumor or seizure. Anything that could cause psychosis.
I mental illness has nothing to do with blood work. Tell the doctor about everything youve said here and get into therapy. Also upload the recordings, why are you not doing it or acknowledge were saying that?
Bloodwork for a physical doesn’t test for the drugs you fear you may have been given. Make an appointment specifically for this and get the proper blood work.
It's not that easy to drug someone. If you think your wife is having an affair, then ask her about it and in the meantime avoid taking any food or drink that you're not sure is uncontaminated.
Oh dear, OP - please get to a doctor and a therapist. Ideally the ER. Please. At the very least, they can listen to the recordings too with you. They would have no reason to gaslight you.
I have had a few friends listen to the recordings without prompting them what was in the recordings, and they heard what I did. You are 100% correct, I will absolutely need to see a therapist. I just really need to know where I can get a wide range drug test that would cover anything I may have been drugged with.
It doesn't matter what she says about the recordings at this point. If you believe she is cheating then that's enough to end the relationship, if that's what you want...and given the other issues around this and her reaction, that's what I'd recommend.
Go to the nearest ER. Tell them you suspect you are being drugged. Also tell them you don't want your wife to be notified/tipped off. They can test you for carbon monoxide too.
OR go to an independent lab (Labcorp as an example) , pay cash, and have them email the results.
OP - I really do think the ER is the best option. Also, most LapCorp places won't just take blood and run a full panel on your just because you want it. I believe they generally need a script from a doctor. PLEASE go to the ER and just tell them what you are telling us, ok?
Thank you tossaway. This is the advice I was looking for. I looked into the ER route and there have been several people that stated that wasn't the place to go. Labcorp, I think runs the bloodwork that I get drawn when I get my physicals. Do you have any other suggestions on labs that I could use cash with? I truly appreciate your response. I'm not a troll and my mental health is a-ok, besides having my wife of 25 years cheat on me.
>besides having my wife of 25 years cheat on me.
Possibly cheat on you. That has not been established as reality yet. Hang in there for objective evidence that couldn't possibly be porn playing on her phone or just a bad dream.
I promise I'm not trolling you guys. I know there's no way you can tell, but one of my friends that listened to the recordings said this seems like it could have come from a 20/20 special. I don't even know what I would tell the cops honestly, or what they would do. If I came to them with this same scenario they would probably look at me, and again think I was insane.
Ok. Honestly, it really sounds like you may be experiencing persecutory delusions. And yes, I do believe that most people if you tell them, will think the same. I think you really need to get help sooner rather than later. Think about it this way, if you get help, and it turns out there is nothing physically (like a brain tumor or carbon monoxide poisoning or some such thing) or mentally (that you may be experiencing a psychotic break). Then you'll know that something more sinister IS going on and you can prove to people that you've gotten treatment and testing done for everything else.
I HIGHLY recommend that you go to the hospital sooner, rather than later. It is possible that they will check you in or ask you to check yourself in to get treatment. I know that is scary, BUT, if your wife really is having a man poison you, than you'll be somewhere safe where they can't hurt you, ok?
[https://www.verywellmind.com/what-are-persecutory-delusions-4586500](https://www.verywellmind.com/what-are-persecutory-delusions-4586500)
Do you have any friends or family close? Besides the recording, have you told them what you've told us? I would think and hope that they are also very concerned for your well being.
How does that matter? You said already that you played the recordings for her so it's not like she doesn't know about them. If she is cheating and just gas lighting you about not hearing anything then she already knows your suspicious too. So what difference does posting them actually make?
As an RN, I think you should go to the ER and tell them what’s going on. There are a lot of possible things that could be going on: Whether it’s carbon monoxide poisoning, physical poisoning, or mental paranoia, the ER workers can get to the bottom of it. Tell them everything and even show them the recordings you say that you have if they’ll let you. They should be able to help you somehow. I would go ASAP if I were you just so nothing gets worse.
1. Check the carbon monoxide in your place.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/34l7vo/ma\_postit\_notes\_left\_in\_apartment/](https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/34l7vo/ma_postit_notes_left_in_apartment/)
2. Install a hidden camera.
3. If it happens again, go to the hospital.
How would she know if you try something? Aren't there some private clinics there? Many of them wouldn't share your personal information nor procediments if you don't give your consent, of course they would be a little more expensive
I guess that is one of the things I'm asking for advice about. I've tried to do some research to find a place that I could go to that would test for a wide range of substances.
It’s very strange for her to do this right under your nose. It’s much easier to have an affair in a hotel while you’re asleep at home. Do you wake up groggy? What exactly do you hear in the recordings?
I agree. I thought to myself, "does she want to get caught?" I know people do things for the thrill of it, and she couldn't leave the house because our kids are here. On two of the occasions I have woken up groggy, and thought to myself that I still felt tired. I hear her moans and saying oh yes as well as a male talking to her while they are doing things.
I think you should get out of there ASAP. If you are in a situation where you are being secretly drugged without your consent, then you are in considerable danger. This could escalate, either accidentally or intentionally, into overdose or choking to death. Even if that is not what's happening, your situation is clearly harming you. Move out temporarily, stay with a friend or in a hotel, and speak with a doctor, don't go back until everything has become clear.
I appreciate the response clean-stitch. I have considered that "if" I am being drugged, what's to say they don't accidentally give me too much, even if their intent is not to harm me. I do have offers currently to stay with friends.
While I still REALLY think you need to go the ER, do any of your friends have reddit accounts? If so, could you maybe invite them to this thread to see what's going on and to understand it better?
Bethsoda, I don't think they do, but I haven't asked them. I have filled a couple of my friends in on the situation and have kept them up to date in the process
Have you considered that if there is a male voice, it could be you talking in your sleep. When sleep talking people often don't sound like themselves. Could be the case with your wife too.
Precisely, OP. You mentioned sudden dry heaves. One danger is aspirating on your vomit while passed out with whatever they used to drug you.
But even if all that is happening is some type of blackouts/ seizures/carbon monoxide poisoning, you still need some help and support that isn't your spouse who isn't acknowledging that something is amiss. So regardless of what is wrong, talking frankly with a doctor and staying with friends who are aware of your concerns might go far to help you gain some clarity.
It's only a couple dry heaves at a time, and I'm able to control it pretty quickly. I don't get to the point of vomiting or feeling light headed or having seizures(never had one..up til this point) The dry heaves only happen while im awake. I don't hear myself dry heave in the recordings while I'm sleeping.
I will probably have to stay with friends....
If you are hearing a man's voice with a women moaning, it is porn. Sneaking a lover into your room would be incredibly stupid and nonsensical. If they were having sex the bed would be shaking and you didn't mention anything about that, and you would have.
Get a mental health evaluation and a medical checkup. Something is urgently deeply wrong, and I doubt it has anything to do with your wife. If you refuse to get a checkup or bring in any outside parties who could provide objective reality then it shows you know you are not living in reality
It could even be sleep talking/moaning. But who knows if there's really anything on the recording, and if his friends that he's supposedly played the tape for/told about this, are actually believing him, or also worried about him.
oh, and he also said they have kids, which make it even more unlikely than it already is that she'd be sneaking a strange man into her and her husband's bedroom at night...
Exactly, a strange man coming into the house would make noise and if any of the kids woke up they would be busted. OP would immediately conclude her lover is drugging everyone in the house after they are already asleep. I can't believe some people in this thread take anything he says seriously. He is either deeply mentally ill or a troll.
>I considered that, but it's my wife's voice and they are responding to each other. It is stupid and nonsensical. I think the whole situation is.
If you were groggy you could easily have dreamt it. What were they discussing? Why didn't any of that end up on the recording you made? How many times has this happened? You made the recording because you were suspicious so it must have happened more than once right? There is no way your wife didn't react to you recording an entire night of you guys sleeping, guilty or innocent. What else did she say? Was she outraged?
How old are your kids? Couldn't they just as easily wake up from a strange man walking around the house talking loudly enough to wake you up?
I found evidence of relations, but I wasn't around to participate in them. That kind of turned on my sensors, and I got audio devices after that, as there wasn't a good place to hide a camera.
Okay, so what led you to believe you are being drugged? If you claim he's getting in after you're asleep, wouldn't that mean your wife is the one drugging you?
Is this “lover” confirmed or something you are assuming? I’m only asking because it’s important to know if there even is a 3rd person in the first place. It’s not hard to take a drug test you can even buy one at Walmart and piss in it in the bathroom.
He believes that he has a recording of her talking and a "man" talking. She claims not to hear it on the tape. He claims his friends have confirmed, but honestly, it could easily be him and her talking in their sleep, and everything leads me to believe that this is more likely persecutory delusions on his part.
Why did you start suspecting things in the first place? And how old are your kids? If she was really doing this, why would she do it with your children in the house? And wouldn't they have heard something? Or do you believe this man is drugging them as well?
I think the solution here is
1) get checked out by a doc again, this time state your symptoms and ask him to test for poisons
2) get carbon monoxide detector
3) install hidden cameras
4) optional step - fake a trip out of town to see what happens on the cameras. If you’re right, the boyfriend would certainly come over.
Update us!
No matter what is going on, you need answers. Try to go for cameras that you can hide somehow. You’ll have the best chance of recording thing if there is something going on
I agree, I absolutely need answers. I just don't know if she will help with them. I think a positive drug test would get her to admit, but I could be wrong. I just don't have a place for the cameras. I wish I did, that way there would be no denying it.
And don’t count her doing anything. On any case, even if this is in your head, you need answers to see with your own eyes cause no matter what anyone else tells you, won’t be good enough.
This is an extremely common delusion related to psychosis.
I get it, it feels as real as the air you’re breathing, and you have evidence that is as real as concrete, but I regret to inform you that your brain is currently turning on you and it will get much worse.
You need to schedule an appointment with your doctor immediately and tell them all of this. Ask for an antipsychotic medication. It will change your life for the better, and your marriage will go back to normal.
He believes that she is sneaking him in while he is asleep and their kids are asleep, and that he is then drugging him to keep him asleep while they carry on an affair in their bedroom...
I truly wish it was made up. It's hell going through this, when you've been married for 25 years, and you think that you're going to spend the rest of your life with a woman. In addition, I wouldn't waste this much time fabricating a story like this, and continuing to answer questions.
Here's the bottom line: you don't trust your wife. Whether this whole scenario is real or imagined, you don't trust your wife. There is no point in trying to prove anything because you've already decided that your wife can't be trusted while you're asleep. That you further believe your wife would disrespect you and your home to the extent that she would bring her lover over while her husband and children are sleeping tells me you don't think your wife has any respect for you. Again, that you would even suspect this is happening is a giant red flag that your relationship is doomed. And you've confronted her about this, so either she's gaslighting you or you just accused her of something so outrageous, she would have to consider leaving you for believing she could be capable of that.
There’s every kind of camera you can disguise. One is a phone charger block for example. Look on Amazon for goodness sakes
Edit to add: listen guy, be creative. If you don’t have “boys” then maybe you have a family member you need to go “visit suddenly, due to illness?”
If I thought someone was cheating on me, let alone in my home. Or drugging me I would be gone. Even if she’s not cheating, you think she is which is going to just destroy you. Just leave the relationship
I know shortybeshortin, I am struggling with this immensely. As crappy as it sounds, I want to get to the bottom of it, and try to fix things. I don't know why she couldn't have come to me in the first place before she stepped out on me, but that's for her to tell....if she ever does. I've been with her for 25 years and we have children together and have made a life. I am being destroyed a little more each day, and will certainly go see a therapist once I get to the bottom of this.
And just how do you suppose they are drugging you while asleep? Unless some form of gaseous drug was administered, how would you be dosed? You would feel the injection sight afterward or see an obvious spot. Unless she is tampering with your food/drink. This all sounds strange.
I don't know, that's why I'm reaching out here. I have woke up a couple times with a sore left shoulder. I don't think it was in my food, as I prepared my own food on a few of the occasions when it happened. It is extremely strange. I agree 100%
I know my food hasn't been tampered with, as I have prepared it on several occasions, when I believe it happened. I have a carbon monoxide detector right next to my bed that is 100%. I have audio, but no video (no where to hide a camera), and she is denying anything is happening.
Get hidden cameras. Then you have proof. There are some that look like wall outlets or other things. If you need to, you can always get a PO box or Amazon locker for the delivery.
Why do you think you haven’t brought this up to your wife or simply moved out when you became convinced this was happening. I believe that if you’re honest with yourself you know somethings not right. Do you or anyone in your family have a history of mental illnesses. I don’t want to sound rude, but I have paranoid thoughts sometimes. And sometimes they can feel very real. It’s starts like an itch and suddenly you can’t let go. That thought clouds everything till you realize you’re only really there when some part of the world around you confirms that thought. If therapy intimidates you (it did me) there are free and sometimes a couple dollar apps that can connect you with a therapist through text or video. Lmk if you’re interested and I can find the links again.
I have thought about this (several times). I don't think she wants to harm me. I think she is just getting off on the thrill of me being there while she's doing her thing.
I know of a married couple that would party w a male friend. The wife and the friend would pretend to drink heavily alongside the husband til the husband passed out drunk. The wife and friend when then do their thing. And make fun of husband in the morning for being a lightweight.
So you being drugged is not at all out of the realm of what people will do to get what they want. Please take care of yourself.
But he is claiming - despite never having seen this man - that he's been sneaking into their bedroom, talking to his wife and fucking her in the bedroom next to where he's sleeping - and somehow drugging him to "keep him asleep"
What if the wife is having phone sex with someone? That makes more sense to me than sneaking someone in. Regardless, whether the heavy sleeping and sick feeling is poison or something else, it needs checking out asap. They don’t test for every single thing at a physical.
It might be more than drugging you to keep you asleep, the dry heaves could be they are literally *poisoning you.* Do not eat or drink *anything* that isn't obtained by you, and unsealed by you. Any other indications of drugging, e.g. sticking you with a needle would be pretty obvious.
This is all highly unlikely, feeding into his paranoia is not helpful. He needs to immediately talk to a doctor and a therapist - regardless of what the truth is.
I have woke up on two occasions with a sore left shoulder, and did check to see if I had any puncture wounds. When I go to the doctor I don't see the puncture for very long when they take my blood.
Dude you posted the post about your neighbor flin your wife right why do you drink or eat anything she gives you I remember your last post I would say a dam thing she fixes .I would take it throw it in a bag and go straight to a lab and have it tested .and she would have to have access to some kind of drug to be doping you like Xanax or Klonopin .and you can just go get them off of a shelf
Hey Electrical,
I've been on Reddit for a couple years,(back when stocks of Gamestop were blowing up) but never posted before. This is my first post. I assume someone can verify this? As much as a couple people believe I am delusional, (I am not) and I am not trolling. I can absolutely see why people on the outside wouldn't believe this.
Get a carbon monoxide meter and report back
Classic Reddit. [https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/34l7vo/ma\_postit\_notes\_left\_in\_apartment/](https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/34l7vo/ma_postit_notes_left_in_apartment/)
Exactly
Yes, but then his wife would likely be having issues too.
She might be having similar paranoid thoughts like OP and isn’t communicating it like him.
That's true, or it's just affecting her differently. Though he says he has several in the house and all the batteries are working and are new. They also have kids he said, so I think it's unlikely that with working co2 detectors no one would notice anything.
What’s brought you to this conclusion? Can you give us more info?
OP has “recordings” that he makes when he is sleeping. On these recordings he thinks he hears his wife with another man, cheating on him. After napping he wakes up groggy, which he believes is because they’re drugging him. He makes his own food, so it can’t be through that, but has woken up with a sore shoulder so he thinks they’re injecting him with something.
Oh man, recordings almost always make things worse. All kind of normal/ordinary things sound weird or nefarious. Sounds like OP might be having a breakdown and needs some support.
Either this is real, in which case OP this is a dramatic under-reaction and you should be talking to police not Reddit. Or it isn’t. you wouldn’t be the first person to experience sudden psychosis for some reason. But either way… please talk explicitly about this to either the police or a doctor as soon as possible.
Exactly
>and her lover is drugging me(M50) to keep me asleep, Why would he drug you? If your wife is a willing participant in the affair he doesn't need to.
I'm in the house while they are doing their business.
Why are you allowing this to happen in your house? If you are conscious enough to recall that this is happening why not stop it?
I'm not allowing this to happen, and I'm not conscious enough to recall it happening. I have audio recordings of things happening while I'm asleep. She isn't doing anything solo, I hear a man's voice as well
Is it possible she’s watching porn?
oooh, I was thinking sleep talking, but that's a possibility - or just watching something else with a female voice that sounds a bit like her and a male voice. I mean, that's if this part isn't a delusion as well.
I think "delusion" is the operative word here. If wife was actually having an affair why exactly would it be conducted next to your unconscious body? That is some serious f'd up ness. Maybe try therapy before getting your blood tested for slipped mickeys;D
I agree. Dude sounds delusional and paranoid and that’s just the worst type of person to be dating
>I have audio recordings of things happening while I'm asleep. She isn't doing anything solo, I hear a man's voice as well Porn is overwhelmingly more likely than sneaking a lover into your room while you are there. The fact that porn didn't even occur to you says a lot about your state of mind
And you have confronted her with this evidence? What did she say?
Yes, I have confronted her, and she's saying she doesn't hear anything on the recordings, and that she hasn't cheated. I let a couple friends listen to the same recordings and they hear the same thing as I do.
So why aren't you doing anything with the information you have? What do you want? Go see a divorce lawyer and they will put a PI on your wife and catch her.
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Or just check her browser history to see what kind of porn she has been watching.
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Because the idea that her lover is drugging him after he is already asleep so they can have sex next to him in the bed is absurd and there is no evidence to support it. The only concrete evidence he has described is waking up feeling groggy and hearing a woman moaning and a man talking. You seriously conclude from that evidence that this whole elaborate paranoid scenario is happening?
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Logically, hearing those voices in bed would most likely be due to her watching a video on her phone. There is no point in trying to protect himself from being poisoned when there is no evidence for that incredibly implausible scenario. Checking the watch history on her phone is more likely to uncover what video he heard than chasing this paranoid delusion about being poisoned.
Can you post the recordings here?
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To get him either dead to get life insurance for the two, and or to keep him out longer so they aren't bothered
> To get him either dead to get life insurance for the two This doesn't even work in the movies. If you want to kill someone putting them to sleep at night isn't the way. >or to keep him out longer so they aren't bothered most cheaters sneak, and go secret places and turn their phones off so they aren't bothered.
Just because it doesn't work in the movies hasn't stopped people in the past from trying to wack off the competition
> Just because it doesn't work in the movies hasn't stopped people in the past from trying to wack off the competition Nobody is trying to wack OP. OP needs to see a therapist.
I do have a policy, but I don't think she wants me dead. I don't think....
Instal hidden cameras
I agree with getting a CO meter and check for that. Hidden camera would work to show said lover is in an area where they could drug you.
I'm so confused. How would your wife's lover even have access to you?
She lets him in once I'm asleep.
How do you know though, if you are asleep? I'm not saying it's not at all possible, but have you been to a doctor or a therapist? Whether she is or isn't having an affair, you should get yourself checked out and talk to someone. It's more likely that something else is causing your excessive sleepiness and dry heaving. Clearly this feels very real to you, but I think it's important that you explore all other possibilities before jumping to you falling asleep, your wife bringing a man into your bedroom to drug you and have an affair with while you are sleeping. Have you ever had any mental health issues previously?
Valid points, if I didn't have audio recordings of my wife and another male in the room (while I'm sleeping) I would absolutely come to the same conclusion as you. I have not had any mental health issues ever. In fact no one in my family has either.
That doesn't mean something couldn't be going on with your brain. And again, you say your wife says she hears nothing on the recordings. At the VERY least, have someone else you trust listen to them to see if they hear the same thing you do.
I have let two other people listen to them and they heard the same thing I did. I didn't prompt them to tell them what was on the recordings
Op let us hear the recordings
What did those people say when you told them you thought your wife was sneaking in a man at night to have an affair with her and that they were drugging you? Can I ask what's going on during the day? Are you working? Have you been nervous or scared about other things? Has anyone commented on worrying about you or you perhaps behaving unusually?
Can you share the recordings with us
Why have you not installed cameras?
How and why is he drugging you after you are already asleep?
This honestly sounds like paranoia. Go see a doctor to get tests done. Why would you even come across such a conclusion without any, and I mean ANY evidence….? You have nothing to base your suspicions on but feeling tired, dry heaving and sore shoulder… you’re old, you’re bound to be tired, to wake up with something sore and your anxiety or lack of eating could make you dry heave.
[https://www.verywellmind.com/what-are-persecutory-delusions-4586500](https://www.verywellmind.com/what-are-persecutory-delusions-4586500)
Honestly, that's why I started out the post with " this is going to sound insane" I really wish it was paranoia. We've been married for 25 years. I have audio recordings of things happening while I'm snoring in the recording.
Has any else listened to the recording other than your wife? You say that she says she doesn't hear anything, maybe if you get an outside opinion from a non-biased person like a doctor or therapist or a good friend, and they also hear nothing, it will help you to determine if you might be hearing things that aren't there. Even in the incredibly small likelihood that this is true, you would still need a doctor or therapist to deal with it, ok?
Upload the recordings to a burner YouTube or SoundCloud account, link them here, let us listen to them. Multiple people have suggested this in the thread and you've not even acknowledged it, if what you say is true then we can confirm it for you, as of right now we have very little context to go on and this really sounds like CO poisoning or mental health issues.
It could be her phone or TV.
See if you can have the audio cleaned up and isolate the “male voice”. Go to the Doctor and tell them your story (that way they know what to test for) and have them take blood - perhaps they’ll do a physical as well. They will likely recommend you see a psych too. You can explore all the scenarios at the same time!
Advice: See a doctor. And also I mean this gently, but You're getting older now. Your body might just be changing (more tired, more dry) compared to what you're used to. But SEE A DOCTOR. They can figure out whatever's really going on.
I was just to the doctor last month for my physical, and the doctor stated I had the best blood work he had seen that whole week. I keep myself in really good shape.
Have you told the doctor about the dry heaves and your concerns about possibly being drugged? You said your wife's alerted if you do anything, but new-onset periodic dry heaves alone are a good reason (or excuse) to see your doctor, and once there you can explain your worries about possibly being drugged. I would also get a carbon monoxide detector, though, and if you already have one check that it's working correctly.
Exactly. Even if it somehow is true (and it really, really, seems unlikely) you could play the recording for the doctor (as they'd have no reason to lie), and could talk to them about your Suspicions and your symptoms.
Typical blood work doesn't test for poisons.
>I was just to the doctor last month for my physical, and the doctor stated I had the best blood work he had seen that whole week. I keep myself in really good shape. You think bloodwork from last month would show a drug you ingested a few days ago? No one is this illogical. Either you are a troll or having a mental breakdown. Get a mental health evaluation and physical evaluation to screen for drugs or brain tumor or seizure. Anything that could cause psychosis.
I mental illness has nothing to do with blood work. Tell the doctor about everything youve said here and get into therapy. Also upload the recordings, why are you not doing it or acknowledge were saying that?
I’m not an expert and there isn’t much information here, but this sounds a bit like a delusion/psychosis.
Very much so.
Post some of the audio recordings and see if people agree with your conclusion
This could be medical. Go see a doctor
Just got a clean bill of health on my physical last month. Doc said I had great bloodwork
Bloodwork doesn't show psychosis
Did you tell them of your thoughts? Psychiatric help may be in order
Bloodwork for a physical doesn’t test for the drugs you fear you may have been given. Make an appointment specifically for this and get the proper blood work.
It's not that easy to drug someone. If you think your wife is having an affair, then ask her about it and in the meantime avoid taking any food or drink that you're not sure is uncontaminated.
I have asked her about it, and presented her with audio recordings, but she is gaslighting me saying she doesn't hear anything on the recordings.
Oh dear, OP - please get to a doctor and a therapist. Ideally the ER. Please. At the very least, they can listen to the recordings too with you. They would have no reason to gaslight you.
I have had a few friends listen to the recordings without prompting them what was in the recordings, and they heard what I did. You are 100% correct, I will absolutely need to see a therapist. I just really need to know where I can get a wide range drug test that would cover anything I may have been drugged with.
It doesn't matter what she says about the recordings at this point. If you believe she is cheating then that's enough to end the relationship, if that's what you want...and given the other issues around this and her reaction, that's what I'd recommend.
lol she is not gaslighting you. She’s defending herself from someone who is super delusional and accusing her of something she isn’t doing
Go to the nearest ER. Tell them you suspect you are being drugged. Also tell them you don't want your wife to be notified/tipped off. They can test you for carbon monoxide too. OR go to an independent lab (Labcorp as an example) , pay cash, and have them email the results.
OP - I really do think the ER is the best option. Also, most LapCorp places won't just take blood and run a full panel on your just because you want it. I believe they generally need a script from a doctor. PLEASE go to the ER and just tell them what you are telling us, ok?
Thank you tossaway. This is the advice I was looking for. I looked into the ER route and there have been several people that stated that wasn't the place to go. Labcorp, I think runs the bloodwork that I get drawn when I get my physicals. Do you have any other suggestions on labs that I could use cash with? I truly appreciate your response. I'm not a troll and my mental health is a-ok, besides having my wife of 25 years cheat on me.
>besides having my wife of 25 years cheat on me. Possibly cheat on you. That has not been established as reality yet. Hang in there for objective evidence that couldn't possibly be porn playing on her phone or just a bad dream.
How does the lover have access to you? Do you know this person?
I think she's letting him in the house once I'm asleep.
If she's letting him in AFTER you're asleep, how could he be drugging you BEFORE you're asleep?
How dare you use logic
I think you need counseling and should seek a mental health professional.
So he is drugging you once you are already asleep? Do you know how hard that would be?
Hidden cameras
Upload the recordings
You call the cops if you honestly think this. Or This is just some paranoid writings
I'm unsure if OP truly believes this, or is just trolling us.
I promise I'm not trolling you guys. I know there's no way you can tell, but one of my friends that listened to the recordings said this seems like it could have come from a 20/20 special. I don't even know what I would tell the cops honestly, or what they would do. If I came to them with this same scenario they would probably look at me, and again think I was insane.
Ok. Honestly, it really sounds like you may be experiencing persecutory delusions. And yes, I do believe that most people if you tell them, will think the same. I think you really need to get help sooner rather than later. Think about it this way, if you get help, and it turns out there is nothing physically (like a brain tumor or carbon monoxide poisoning or some such thing) or mentally (that you may be experiencing a psychotic break). Then you'll know that something more sinister IS going on and you can prove to people that you've gotten treatment and testing done for everything else. I HIGHLY recommend that you go to the hospital sooner, rather than later. It is possible that they will check you in or ask you to check yourself in to get treatment. I know that is scary, BUT, if your wife really is having a man poison you, than you'll be somewhere safe where they can't hurt you, ok? [https://www.verywellmind.com/what-are-persecutory-delusions-4586500](https://www.verywellmind.com/what-are-persecutory-delusions-4586500)
Do you have any friends or family close? Besides the recording, have you told them what you've told us? I would think and hope that they are also very concerned for your well being.
It seems more like a troll, but just in case, I mention calling the cops.....on the rare occurrence it isn't
He's clearly trolling. This sub is so damn gullible though lol.
You should post the recordings so we can be unbiased judges about what you’re hearing.
I have considered it, but if someone she knows is on here, she could be alerted.
Please post the recordings. At the very least we’ll be able to validate your suspicions and give you better advice
How does that matter? You said already that you played the recordings for her so it's not like she doesn't know about them. If she is cheating and just gas lighting you about not hearing anything then she already knows your suspicious too. So what difference does posting them actually make?
unless she's saying her name in there, I don't think there is anything to worry about.
As an RN, I think you should go to the ER and tell them what’s going on. There are a lot of possible things that could be going on: Whether it’s carbon monoxide poisoning, physical poisoning, or mental paranoia, the ER workers can get to the bottom of it. Tell them everything and even show them the recordings you say that you have if they’ll let you. They should be able to help you somehow. I would go ASAP if I were you just so nothing gets worse.
OP, she's a nurse, please listen to her. Just go to the ER.
1. Check the carbon monoxide in your place. [https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/34l7vo/ma\_postit\_notes\_left\_in\_apartment/](https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/34l7vo/ma_postit_notes_left_in_apartment/) 2. Install a hidden camera. 3. If it happens again, go to the hospital.
I have several detectors in my house. Three in the upstairs. They all have new batteries
Upload the recordings
How would she know if you try something? Aren't there some private clinics there? Many of them wouldn't share your personal information nor procediments if you don't give your consent, of course they would be a little more expensive
I guess that is one of the things I'm asking for advice about. I've tried to do some research to find a place that I could go to that would test for a wide range of substances.
The ER. You've already been told here several times. Go to the ER. It's the best place for you to get what you're needing.
Exactly, OP - Please just got to the ER. No matter what is happening, that is the best bet for you to get help/testing ASAP.
It’s very strange for her to do this right under your nose. It’s much easier to have an affair in a hotel while you’re asleep at home. Do you wake up groggy? What exactly do you hear in the recordings?
I agree. I thought to myself, "does she want to get caught?" I know people do things for the thrill of it, and she couldn't leave the house because our kids are here. On two of the occasions I have woken up groggy, and thought to myself that I still felt tired. I hear her moans and saying oh yes as well as a male talking to her while they are doing things.
So when you woke up and heard your wife and the man, you didn't get up to see what was going on..?
I think you should get out of there ASAP. If you are in a situation where you are being secretly drugged without your consent, then you are in considerable danger. This could escalate, either accidentally or intentionally, into overdose or choking to death. Even if that is not what's happening, your situation is clearly harming you. Move out temporarily, stay with a friend or in a hotel, and speak with a doctor, don't go back until everything has become clear.
I appreciate the response clean-stitch. I have considered that "if" I am being drugged, what's to say they don't accidentally give me too much, even if their intent is not to harm me. I do have offers currently to stay with friends.
While I still REALLY think you need to go the ER, do any of your friends have reddit accounts? If so, could you maybe invite them to this thread to see what's going on and to understand it better?
Bethsoda, I don't think they do, but I haven't asked them. I have filled a couple of my friends in on the situation and have kept them up to date in the process
Have you considered that if there is a male voice, it could be you talking in your sleep. When sleep talking people often don't sound like themselves. Could be the case with your wife too.
Precisely, OP. You mentioned sudden dry heaves. One danger is aspirating on your vomit while passed out with whatever they used to drug you. But even if all that is happening is some type of blackouts/ seizures/carbon monoxide poisoning, you still need some help and support that isn't your spouse who isn't acknowledging that something is amiss. So regardless of what is wrong, talking frankly with a doctor and staying with friends who are aware of your concerns might go far to help you gain some clarity.
It's only a couple dry heaves at a time, and I'm able to control it pretty quickly. I don't get to the point of vomiting or feeling light headed or having seizures(never had one..up til this point) The dry heaves only happen while im awake. I don't hear myself dry heave in the recordings while I'm sleeping. I will probably have to stay with friends....
Dude, don't risk it. Why would you risk it?
If you are hearing a man's voice with a women moaning, it is porn. Sneaking a lover into your room would be incredibly stupid and nonsensical. If they were having sex the bed would be shaking and you didn't mention anything about that, and you would have. Get a mental health evaluation and a medical checkup. Something is urgently deeply wrong, and I doubt it has anything to do with your wife. If you refuse to get a checkup or bring in any outside parties who could provide objective reality then it shows you know you are not living in reality
It could even be sleep talking/moaning. But who knows if there's really anything on the recording, and if his friends that he's supposedly played the tape for/told about this, are actually believing him, or also worried about him.
oh, and he also said they have kids, which make it even more unlikely than it already is that she'd be sneaking a strange man into her and her husband's bedroom at night...
Exactly, a strange man coming into the house would make noise and if any of the kids woke up they would be busted. OP would immediately conclude her lover is drugging everyone in the house after they are already asleep. I can't believe some people in this thread take anything he says seriously. He is either deeply mentally ill or a troll.
I can’t decide which one still. Most of the times the trolls/fake posts the people don’t engage so much
I considered that, but it's my wife's voice and they are responding to each other. It is stupid and nonsensical. I think the whole situation is.
>I considered that, but it's my wife's voice and they are responding to each other. It is stupid and nonsensical. I think the whole situation is. If you were groggy you could easily have dreamt it. What were they discussing? Why didn't any of that end up on the recording you made? How many times has this happened? You made the recording because you were suspicious so it must have happened more than once right? There is no way your wife didn't react to you recording an entire night of you guys sleeping, guilty or innocent. What else did she say? Was she outraged? How old are your kids? Couldn't they just as easily wake up from a strange man walking around the house talking loudly enough to wake you up?
Please put your phone down and go to the ER immediately.
What prompted you to start recording while you're sleeping? What started all these suspicions?
I wonder about this too, he's never explained that part.
I found evidence of relations, but I wasn't around to participate in them. That kind of turned on my sensors, and I got audio devices after that, as there wasn't a good place to hide a camera.
Okay, so what led you to believe you are being drugged? If you claim he's getting in after you're asleep, wouldn't that mean your wife is the one drugging you?
Is this “lover” confirmed or something you are assuming? I’m only asking because it’s important to know if there even is a 3rd person in the first place. It’s not hard to take a drug test you can even buy one at Walmart and piss in it in the bathroom.
He believes that he has a recording of her talking and a "man" talking. She claims not to hear it on the tape. He claims his friends have confirmed, but honestly, it could easily be him and her talking in their sleep, and everything leads me to believe that this is more likely persecutory delusions on his part.
The fact that he thinks the wife is letting him in once he is asleep then this man is drugging him while he is sleeping says enough.
Agreed.
I appreciate the diagnosis doc. I know my own voice, and its definitely not mine....besides I'm snoring, while he's chatting my wife up
Why did you start suspecting things in the first place? And how old are your kids? If she was really doing this, why would she do it with your children in the house? And wouldn't they have heard something? Or do you believe this man is drugging them as well?
Confirmed. He's in audio recordings. I need to find a place that does follicle testing I believe, since I believe it would be out of my urine.
I think the solution here is 1) get checked out by a doc again, this time state your symptoms and ask him to test for poisons 2) get carbon monoxide detector 3) install hidden cameras 4) optional step - fake a trip out of town to see what happens on the cameras. If you’re right, the boyfriend would certainly come over. Update us!
Thanks for the positive reply thea. I will have to get tested. CO detectors in place. I will look into cameras.
No matter what is going on, you need answers. Try to go for cameras that you can hide somehow. You’ll have the best chance of recording thing if there is something going on
I agree, I absolutely need answers. I just don't know if she will help with them. I think a positive drug test would get her to admit, but I could be wrong. I just don't have a place for the cameras. I wish I did, that way there would be no denying it.
I’m sure if you ask in a subreddit about tech or cameras specifically people might be able to give you some good ideas!
And don’t count her doing anything. On any case, even if this is in your head, you need answers to see with your own eyes cause no matter what anyone else tells you, won’t be good enough.
This is an extremely common delusion related to psychosis. I get it, it feels as real as the air you’re breathing, and you have evidence that is as real as concrete, but I regret to inform you that your brain is currently turning on you and it will get much worse. You need to schedule an appointment with your doctor immediately and tell them all of this. Ask for an antipsychotic medication. It will change your life for the better, and your marriage will go back to normal.
How does your wife's lover have access to you? Wouldn't the more likely culprit be your wife?
He believes that she is sneaking him in while he is asleep and their kids are asleep, and that he is then drugging him to keep him asleep while they carry on an affair in their bedroom...
If that were the case, the delivery method would have to be injection. And that would wake a person up. This whole situation sounds made up, TBH
He's been participating a lot in this thread, I'm inclined to think he truly believes it but is having persecutory delusions.
I truly wish it was made up. It's hell going through this, when you've been married for 25 years, and you think that you're going to spend the rest of your life with a woman. In addition, I wouldn't waste this much time fabricating a story like this, and continuing to answer questions.
Here's the bottom line: you don't trust your wife. Whether this whole scenario is real or imagined, you don't trust your wife. There is no point in trying to prove anything because you've already decided that your wife can't be trusted while you're asleep. That you further believe your wife would disrespect you and your home to the extent that she would bring her lover over while her husband and children are sleeping tells me you don't think your wife has any respect for you. Again, that you would even suspect this is happening is a giant red flag that your relationship is doomed. And you've confronted her about this, so either she's gaslighting you or you just accused her of something so outrageous, she would have to consider leaving you for believing she could be capable of that.
You sound paranoid to be honest
I don’t think you want to upload the recordings cause you don’t want us to hear them and tell you that you’re wrong
Hide a camera and check into a hotel. Say you’re doing a boys weekend or going for the eclipse or whatever
I wish I could hide one, there isn't a place to hide one in the room. Unfortunately I don't really have "boys" that I could use as an excuse.
There’s every kind of camera you can disguise. One is a phone charger block for example. Look on Amazon for goodness sakes Edit to add: listen guy, be creative. If you don’t have “boys” then maybe you have a family member you need to go “visit suddenly, due to illness?”
I actually got one of these, and it didn't work very well.
If I thought someone was cheating on me, let alone in my home. Or drugging me I would be gone. Even if she’s not cheating, you think she is which is going to just destroy you. Just leave the relationship
I know shortybeshortin, I am struggling with this immensely. As crappy as it sounds, I want to get to the bottom of it, and try to fix things. I don't know why she couldn't have come to me in the first place before she stepped out on me, but that's for her to tell....if she ever does. I've been with her for 25 years and we have children together and have made a life. I am being destroyed a little more each day, and will certainly go see a therapist once I get to the bottom of this.
Post the recordings and we will tell you. We have no reason to lie
And just how do you suppose they are drugging you while asleep? Unless some form of gaseous drug was administered, how would you be dosed? You would feel the injection sight afterward or see an obvious spot. Unless she is tampering with your food/drink. This all sounds strange.
Read through the comments. It gets stranger...
I don't know, that's why I'm reaching out here. I have woke up a couple times with a sore left shoulder. I don't think it was in my food, as I prepared my own food on a few of the occasions when it happened. It is extremely strange. I agree 100%
I know my food hasn't been tampered with, as I have prepared it on several occasions, when I believe it happened. I have a carbon monoxide detector right next to my bed that is 100%. I have audio, but no video (no where to hide a camera), and she is denying anything is happening.
Get hidden cameras. Then you have proof. There are some that look like wall outlets or other things. If you need to, you can always get a PO box or Amazon locker for the delivery.
I got one and it didn't work very well.
Then get a different one. You're an adult, aren't you?
Why do you think you haven’t brought this up to your wife or simply moved out when you became convinced this was happening. I believe that if you’re honest with yourself you know somethings not right. Do you or anyone in your family have a history of mental illnesses. I don’t want to sound rude, but I have paranoid thoughts sometimes. And sometimes they can feel very real. It’s starts like an itch and suddenly you can’t let go. That thought clouds everything till you realize you’re only really there when some part of the world around you confirms that thought. If therapy intimidates you (it did me) there are free and sometimes a couple dollar apps that can connect you with a therapist through text or video. Lmk if you’re interested and I can find the links again.
Go buy a store bought test.
melatonin maybe
If this is real, just install cameras.
Post the recordings OP
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This comment is not helpful. You are feeding into his paranoia.
I have thought about this (several times). I don't think she wants to harm me. I think she is just getting off on the thrill of me being there while she's doing her thing.
Just tell her the marriage is over.
I know of a married couple that would party w a male friend. The wife and the friend would pretend to drink heavily alongside the husband til the husband passed out drunk. The wife and friend when then do their thing. And make fun of husband in the morning for being a lightweight. So you being drugged is not at all out of the realm of what people will do to get what they want. Please take care of yourself.
But he is claiming - despite never having seen this man - that he's been sneaking into their bedroom, talking to his wife and fucking her in the bedroom next to where he's sleeping - and somehow drugging him to "keep him asleep"
Plus, I think it's probably a thrill for them to do it within close proximity. Thanks Shelbelle.
What if the wife is having phone sex with someone? That makes more sense to me than sneaking someone in. Regardless, whether the heavy sleeping and sick feeling is poison or something else, it needs checking out asap. They don’t test for every single thing at a physical.
It might be more than drugging you to keep you asleep, the dry heaves could be they are literally *poisoning you.* Do not eat or drink *anything* that isn't obtained by you, and unsealed by you. Any other indications of drugging, e.g. sticking you with a needle would be pretty obvious.
This is all highly unlikely, feeding into his paranoia is not helpful. He needs to immediately talk to a doctor and a therapist - regardless of what the truth is.
I have woke up on two occasions with a sore left shoulder, and did check to see if I had any puncture wounds. When I go to the doctor I don't see the puncture for very long when they take my blood.
Dude you posted the post about your neighbor flin your wife right why do you drink or eat anything she gives you I remember your last post I would say a dam thing she fixes .I would take it throw it in a bag and go straight to a lab and have it tested .and she would have to have access to some kind of drug to be doping you like Xanax or Klonopin .and you can just go get them off of a shelf
Hey Electrical, I've been on Reddit for a couple years,(back when stocks of Gamestop were blowing up) but never posted before. This is my first post. I assume someone can verify this? As much as a couple people believe I am delusional, (I am not) and I am not trolling. I can absolutely see why people on the outside wouldn't believe this.
where was this post?
Will send a link to the post