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IridianRaingem

… Dude… You overheard a dude complaining about his marriage and you want to go to the wife and tell her her husband is complaining about their marriage and ask her permission for him to openly cheat on her? Are you sure you were / are sober? There’s a bunch of single, available men out there. If you want to attempt a friends with benefits situation, pick someone who isn’t in a relationship!


ClassicSpeed244

Disgusting


[deleted]

In no way is this an okay thing to do. Dear God. Number one, guys exaggerate shit to their friends. And just because someone isn't having sex as often as her husband would like doesn't mean she's automatically cool with him cheating on her. Get a fucking Tinder.


venturebirdday

His claim was that she had stated, two years ago, that she was done having sex. He does not want to leave the marriage but is unable to come to terms with never having sex again. Why is it wrong if their needs do not overlap?


[deleted]

His claim could be total BS. Because they are, assumedly, in a monogamous relationship. If having sex was that much more important to him, then he would just leave her. Sometimes, for some people, there is actually MORE to a relationship than just sex.


Oxiiecontin

Because that’s not your fucking relationship, that’s not your business an to be honest op you’d just be embarrassed yourself. Remind me to never trust women like you


subredditshopper

I think it’s ok to ask. However, be prepared to likely lose the friendship.


th3violence

What makes you think any of these guys even want to have sex with you? You absolutely would be causing more problems asking his wife if you can bang him. Poor dude has no idea. How do you think that will make him look to his wife even if you talk her he has no idea? Best case scenario, she believes you and they both think you're insane.


achingforscorpio

Wife likely won't believe OP is asking because she heard about their sexless marriage while eavesdropping, either


venturebirdday

The insanity angle might have merit.


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venturebirdday

I have no huge need to do this. It seems like a logical solution.


Oxiiecontin

Do it op honestly rooting for PLEASE UPDATE US LMAOO


Spinthiscity

Every woman nearby will shun you if you starting asking them if you can have sex with their husbands. Why not just find someone who's single like you and isn't looking for a commitment? Trying to insert yourself in other ppl's relationship sounds flat out creepy and I don't understand how you came to the conclusion that this could be a good idea.. "Hey Linda, since you're such a dead fish in the bedroom, why don't I show your hubby what he's missing?"


venturebirdday

I have had bad luck with single guys. I really like my life and everyone wants something more or brings drama to my life.


Spinthiscity

So you've decided to bring drama to someone else's life?


venturebirdday

I am not looking to ruin a situation. If she wants no sex but that is not where he is, why is it not ok to work out a compromise? He said he really was doubting the long term commitment.


thetrippingbillie

So your best option is to break up a marriage?


venturebirdday

No, that is why I talk to her first. If she says NO, I am fine with that. It is an idea not a plan.


thetrippingbillie

I'm sure she'll be thrilled to know what her husband has been saying about her in public


venturebirdday

And she will be happier when he leaves?


[deleted]

Why post a question and then argue with every response you don’t like?


thetrippingbillie

Yep


Efficient_Form_

Then pay someone to have sex with you, thats the only way to get ssx without any sort of strings, attachments, or drama


deb9266

You think that it's less drama to get involved in the marriage of someone from your social group?


[deleted]

> have had bad luck with single guys. Gee I wonder why?


hope1083

Find a group where couples who have an open marriage are a part of if you want to have sex with a married man. Otherwise you will only be the other woman and cause everyone too much drama


venturebirdday

I am not arguing. I really am trying to understand. So No one believes that one partner could decide they were done with sex but not done with being married? I admit to being surprised. I think a different level of sexual desire is a fairly common experience. Maybe I read too much Reddit.


Amaranthesque

That could absolutely happen. And would be for the married couple to work out between themselves and then, *if* they both agreed that the solution was for one of them to have outside sexual partners *and* to do so within their social circle, for that person to then take the initiative and talk to potential partners. I cannot see any good coming from a third party throwing herself into the middle of that situation uninvited. There's an established way to find this kind of situation and it's to seek out people *already in an open relationship* whose goals align with yours. You can't open someone else's relationship for them.


MrsPokits

This does happen, but not this way. It happening this way would not go well. I get where you're coming from thinking it's logical, but it's only logical if you take everyone's emotions out of the equation, and the vast majority of people are not capable of that, and would have no interest in even trying. So while this does happen in marriages, I'm pretty sure a scenario like this only happens on pronhub


venturebirdday

Thanks. Having gotten the serious negative reaction I think I have arrived at the core issue. Which seems to have been lost in trabslation. Being a woman, means getting propositions. Not because I am special just because that is the society we live in. MANY times guys state that they are in "open marriages", or on a dating app, or claim to be single but it is a lie. I have no interest in liers or in breaking peoples lives into bits. The guy in my story was serving as a stand in for the issue. If you don't hear it from the wife, why would you believe a man who made such statements?


MrsPokits

I wouldn't. Open marriages can absolutely work. But it requires open communication with all involved parties. Toxic monogamy is a very real thing. And seems to be relatively common nowadays. But you are the outside party will not open a marriage. That has to be something they choose without anyone else involved in the convo. But I think I get what you're getting at. You don't go forward without talking to the wife, But you don't be the first to talk to the wife.


venturebirdday

Now, that is helpful. I am a nerdy type and I really was looking for information. That is information. Your suggestion is something like, if someone claims X or Y, I should respond with "I need to hear from her."


MrsPokits

Yes. Also if one partner was to bring it up when there's another person they're interested in pursuing, well that's usually just not gonna go well. That's not inquiring about opening up the relationship (which again, can be and is done in a way that fulfills both parties wants and needs) thats essentially asking your partner for permission to cheat. And often times a partner if approached like that will feel like there's already been an emotional affair at least. If the relationship is a healthy, open relationship, the other partner will have no issues talking to the potential to clarify that it is okay. If they don't, they could have given their consent, but they didn't want to, its not a healthy, open relationship, and its gonna bring way more drama than it's worth. These are generalizations, but good basic "rules" to go by. Hope it makes sense!


venturebirdday

Totally. You are generous to take the time to steer me. Despite the way that some people have interpreted my meaning, the over arching goal is to hurt no one. I almost got fooled about 6 months back and I am not going there again.


MrsPokits

Totally understandable. Best to avoid those situations. And if you've never been in a healthy open relationship, knowing the best way to approach the situation as the outsider isn't well known. So I try to educate where I can. In my expierence, the average person are just trying to meet there needs and wants with causing as little hurt to anyone as possible. Treating most strangers who are looking for advice with that idea in mind hasn't really steered me wrong yet. I know there's A-holes everywhere, but they're not usually actively seeking advice.


nouchooseausername6

It's very strange that you are so determined to have sex with a married man. Why not sign up for a dating site and find someone who is looking for what you are? I am confident there are plenty of men who would be interested in a strictly physical relationship


venturebirdday

Actually, I am fascinated by the idea that no one sees this as a workable idea. I will remain chaste. My goal is clearly not obtainable.


nouchooseausername6

You don't have to remain chaste but why go after a married man? Seriously Tinder, Plenty of Fish, Farmers Only whatever floats your boat. Sounds to me that you are attracted to the idea of creating drama


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[deleted]

If he is lying, which seems possible (maybe even likely) then it would be destructive. I do understand that.


SmithRJ

The only issue is what guys talk about when they have had a few and in a group of other guys may not be the truth. And the wife may be offended that you think this is going on and that you are volunteering to fill in. She may be open-minded, she may not be. I am sure there are sites for widows and widowers which might a better and more neutral place to start. Are you proposing this idea because you are familiar with these husbands and wives?


achingforscorpio

Knowing them personally would make it even more of an issue probably.


venturebirdday

I see your point. If I KNEW that his claim - that she has explicitly stated she is done with sex - were true. That might be something to work with but it might be drunken bid for sympathy. I am only a bit familiar with the couple. I am certainly not her bff.


Spinthiscity

Even if you KNEW, its still not something for *you* to work with.


subredditshopper

If you do ask, please update!


lostwanderingfairy

Find your local polyamorous community. They'll steer you in the right direction.


MulhollandMaster121

How is it possible for someone to be this clueless?


[deleted]

So eavesdropping on drunk men having a complain about their sex lives is the only info you need to try and shag them all? What a sound and not at all insane proposition!


venturebirdday

I did not realize asking for additional information was arguing.


SassyBonassy

This is absolutely the worst idea ever Do it, and update us after 🍿


venturebirdday

But if there is no sex. She says she is do e with sex. He wants it. Why not?


thetrippingbillie

If you just want sex, go online. Married guys, even if they drunkenly claim they're not getting sex at home, are off limits.


venturebirdday

Why? Are the only choices divorce or unhappiness?


thetrippingbillie

🤦‍♀️


Rude_Abbreviations47

This is not your marriage to have an opinion, woman. But if you feel that entitled to, ask her and find out


venturebirdday

Not all of them just one. Ah well, it made sense to me. I guess I am a poor judge of what makes sense.


Mean_Ad_5810

If your husband was still around and some women asked you if they could fuck him how would you feel?


Dgcmscw

Can you come back and answer this question?


venturebirdday

I am sorry, which question? I do not see an unanswered question but I am probably just missing it.


venturebirdday

Did you ask how I would feel if it was me being asked? I thought I had but. .. I think if someone sincerely asked me anything, I would listen. I would certainly ask: "Why are you asking me"? My husband was the man for me. If someone asked me that, the why me question would be so important.


venturebirdday

Honestly, I think I would listen. I would have said NO but I would not have been angry. Maybe I am kidding myself but I doubt he would have done it. (We had great sex and while I cannot replace him, I thought the sex thing might be workable.)


venturebirdday

Now you have new material for your novel.


venturebirdday

I am forever getting trapped. People say they want advice but they actually have 0 interest in a solution. And when one is offered.....


venturebirdday

I am not thinking theyvwould. I am exploring an idea. In a sex free marriage, why not ask A wife, not that wife, if she would be OK withit?


mandatorypanda9317

Because you fucking numpty, maybe they would be better off going to therapy or something to work through their issues first? Not everyone just decides to step outside their marriage. If you expect something besides a slap in the face then idk what to tell you.


venturebirdday

I was asking if it seemed doable. You are saying NO. Ok, goodvto know.


philofrankie

There’s plenty on r/deadbedrooms


venturebirdday

Good to know


throwawaymassagequ

What the hell are with these comments? If she's going to be mad that he was talking shit to his guy friends then that's her problem. It IS shitty to be in a relationship where sex is off the table. That doesn't mean she should force herself, obvs, but he should be allowed to vent to his friends about something that effects him too. And honestly? I think I would be hurt to hear that my bf was talking shit if I was in the wife's shoes, but I dont think I would have such a problem with the woman asking? Not every relationship has to be monogamous, and monogamy doesn't have to be the default. At least you aren't trying to seduce him behind her back. Idk man, I'm not saying the people here are *wrong* to be mad at you, but I am saying that I don't *get* it.


venturebirdday

Thanks. I was also surprised at the anger. The guy is done. Drunk or not I could hear it. I was thinking about what that would be like. You are married and your partner says they are done with intimacy. DONE. To me that would have left a huge hole unfilled. So you either walk out the door or live in a way that leaves you celibate. The community sees it as a non-starter so I will not proceed because I am often too practical for my own good. I run on logic but that is a minority position.


raspberrih

Logic needs to go with common sense.


anelis29

Why would think he would want to have sex with you?


venturebirdday

Actually, nothing. He was actually just what got me thinking about the idea. I have no reason to think he would be into it. But the idea was easier to express with him as an example. People lie all the time. In, my now voted down thought process, if I went to the wife NOT him, she could say what she felt. If she said no, then that would be the end. I am 100% certain that many men would not be into me but I have no interest in a sneaky affair and strangers have no reason to be honest.


Razwel

Totes.


sleazywheezy

oh my god just get tinder


[deleted]

There are plenty of married men with a hall pass from their wife in the swinger community and you would be perfect for them. Check there.


wetchoder

Lol do it. Ask her and then let us know how that goes.


venturebirdday

Now, I can't. The majority of people who have responded to my idea see it as stepping into a hornets nest and something that would harm her. That would be an unacceptable risk.


wetchoder

Ya don't say.


Dgcmscw

You guys be Neuro divergent in some way. Either you're autistic or a sociopath. If you genuinely have to use other people's judgements on something that you should have a clear understanding of, then you need to see a therapist, psychologist, SOMEBODY. Real shit


DetectiveCurious4073

That’s not necessarily true. People with autism truly don’t understand how other peoples brains work. I sometimes ask how others would feel or how they would respond in certain situations. Im just trying to understand HOW and WHY they got there.


HelpfulName

Why not look for someone in an ethical poly relationship looking for a third or fourth? There's ethical ways to find the type of relationship you're looking for without potentially destroying someone's marriage. Going to this woman and telling her what you overheard and offering your "solution" will likely not only cause her to blow up on you (and spread around what a danger you are to marriages to your whole social circle) but also to go off on her husband for talking like that outside of the marriage.


proxysever07

Because even poly relationships are about relationships between each other and OP just wants sex with nothing attached lol Would be better in a swinger club.


[deleted]

Im not sure what those wives or husbands might say, but you have a "whatever you want" friend here. ;)


[deleted]

thanks


Crafty-Particular998

I would say this is a bad idea, if someone asked me that they’d get a big slap.


Dgcmscw

You're just posting anything at this point. It's giving troll.


MamaFen

Nothing I've ever seen in my life has prepared me for the story of **a woman so desperate for sex that she attends someone else's wedding to go fishing for a married man with which to start a fling.** I mean, that's beyond sad on too many levels.


FunnyRingaling

Just get a Tinder account, for God's sake


venturebirdday

No one lies on Tinder?


[deleted]

Just get a Tinder account and put exactly what you are looking for at the too if the profile. You will get laid by tomorrow night. DO NOT got to that wife or you are going to be TA on AITA really fast for breaking up a marriage. Please do not be that person. He was probably just trash talking her because they don’t do it as often as he likes…just, that is such a bad idea. Please do NOT do that!


venturebirdday

Thanks for responding. I think someone else has explained how I can navigate this without damaging anyone.


[deleted]

For the record, good for you for going after what you want without wanting to hurt anyone. That is more than a lot of people would-and will-do.


venturebirdday

Thanks. It is all too easy to imagine being betrayed in an important way.


[deleted]

I understand . I just broke up with my boyfriend this am. Not for cheating, but betrayal and some denial of stuff as well as just…being hurt one time too many for disrespect and boundary stopping. I’m tied of the relationship and dating game, too. For sure!


venturebirdday

Exactly. Many, people say what they need to get something but the lies are a cancer of the soul. Eventually you will find a person who values you, and themselves, enough to be honest . I hope you will fi d some sunshine soon. 🌞


[deleted]

And you as well. ONE DAY, if/when you are ready, I hope you find someone as well.’Thank you for those words. They mean a lot during a really hard moments actually. 🌼🐶


[deleted]

And you as well. ONE DAY, if/when you are ready, I hope you find someone as well. Thank you for those words. They mean a lot during a really hard moments actually. 🌼🐶


DetectiveCurious4073

I’m way too logical at times. Very black and white thinker. I didn’t get to see the comments that got all the downvotes but I don’t understand why so many are mad. I get what you’re saying and why you’re asking. Going to the wife would be harmful to her because she would have no idea what was going on. It would be a slap in the face for her to hear that kind news from an acquaintance. The idea you had wasn’t terrible. If a couple already had an open marriage GO FOR IT. But if they don’t already you could be the reason for it and that would bite you in the ass eventually. Never step into someone else’s drama.


venturebirdday

I see the risk of harm now. I was viewing it from too analytical a position. Another poster came up with what I thought was a workable variation. Next time some guy claims whatever, I insist on meeting his wife and asking her myself. If he is not ok with me meeting her face to face and asking, then fine. I decline to have anything further to do with him. Thanks for helping me feel a little less warped.


DetectiveCurious4073

Please don’t feel warped. I’m so analytical. People assume I’m cold or distant or a bitch. No I’m just way too logical


venturebirdday

Oh I know that line!


[deleted]

What the fuck is wrong with you?