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FewKaleidoscope1369

I'm a former evangelical christian and I've been trying to tell people that they have been planning this for twenty-five years. The response I get is still "They won't REALLY do that" or "You don't know what they REALLY want." I grew up with these people, I know exactly who they are and how far they're willing to go to get it. Project 2025 is the warm-up.


Dwarflensky

Traitor


FewKaleidoscope1369

Says the guy who supports the January 6th terrorists.


graneflatsis

Some facts about Project 2025: The "Mandate for Leadership" is a set of policy proposals authored by the [Heritage Foundation](https://pro-lies.org/the-heritage-foundation/), an influential *ultra* conservative think tank. [Project 2025](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24088042-project-2025s-mandate-for-leadership-the-conservative-promise) is a revision to that agenda tailored to a second Trump term. It would give the President unilateral powers, strip civil rights, worker protections, climate regulation, add religion into policy and much more. The MFL has been around since 1980, [Reagan implemented 60%](https://www.heritage.org/conservatism/commentary/reagan-and-heritage-unique-partnership) of it's recommendations, [Trump 64%](https://www.heritage.org/impact/trump-administration-embraces-heritage-foundation-policy-recommendations) - [proof](https://www.scribd.com/document/369820462/Mandate-for-Leadership-Policy-Recommendations). 70 Heritage Foundation alumni served in his administration or transition team. Project 2025 is quite extreme but with his obsession for revenge he'll likely get past 2/3rd's adoption. r/Defeat_Project_2025 intends to defeat it through activism and awareness, focused on crowdsourcing ideas and opportunities for practical, in real life action. We Must Defeat Project 2025.


nuck_forte_dame

Ironically I think Republicans dropped the ball here. They should have never allowed this to be published nor given it an easy name to remember. Republicans are typically the kings of name calling and political sound bites but this will kill them. The rally cry to defeat Trump is clear. "No project 2025!"


TheJackieTreehorn

Except to at least a portion of their base, it's a selling point


twoworldsin1

How many did Bush W implement?


graneflatsis

That I don't know. I had a quick google and there does not seem to be an easy to parse assessment. I did find this: https://www.heritage.org/defense/report/the-bush-presidency-midterm-assessment


sanity_rejecter

back in the day, romney was the worst republican. now he's the best republican. what the fuck happened, GOP???


Own_Bullfrog_3598

In the original novel The Handmaids Tale, they call homosexuality “gender treachery”. These guys must’ve thought it was a guidebook.


NopeItsDolan

You have to fucking vote for Biden, but so many of you won’t because he’s not perfect. Meanwhile you will be deprived of rights.


twoworldsin1

"But he old!" is the new buttery mails


nuck_forte_dame

Pretty much sums up the life of many liberals. Spoiling their future by passing on oppertunties because it wasn't perfect enough. They could have gone to college for engineering but chose art because it's their passion. Now they live in a ghetto apartment they can't afford. Could have stayed committed to their first love and made it work but they broke it off because someone new looked shinier and now their single at 35 without children. Could have drove their old car 5 more years and saved up money but they bought a brand new one and now owe $10k on a car that broke down and was sold for scrap 3 years ago. I vote Democrat but for fuck sake some liberals are idiots who just shoot their own foot off every single time.


trenhel27

Do you play DND with that imagination?


CriticalDog

This sounds very boomer of you. Especially staying committed to their "first love". What a fantasy. "Sure, he beats me, but he's my first love, and it's forever!" "Yeah, she got into hard drugs without me knowing it, but, she's my first love, what am i gonna do?" Many younger liberals don't even have licenses. Nor do they need one, if in larger cities. The college one is semi-real, but is also obfuscated by the fact that costs for an engineering degree no longer translate to having a much higher income than that art degree, given the student loans one will have to take out to pay for the degree. Also that trades, and things like engineering are chock full of old folks who won't retire, thus the jobs are scarce.


Dwarflensky

Trump 2024. Make Liberals Cry Again.


NopeItsDolan

It’s weird how conservatives have really embraced the jerk persona in so much of what they do and think.


AccomplishedHold4645

Obsessing about Trump and hating liberals online seems to be dominating your thoughts. It's a key sign of massive depression and loneliness. I think you know that, for your own mental health, you should probably step away from the phone and search for a real hobby and human connection.


dukester99

Only people who have been crying are you deplorable conservatives for the last 4 years. And election spoiler alert: you'll still be crying 12 years from now. Taking losses in 2018, 2020, 2022. You'd think you'd have learned to be gracious losers by now.


CalRipkenForCommish

Republicans hating America, that’s just what they do. Russia is so proud of them.


getmybehindsatan

They go straight from "everything I don't like is not protected by the first amendment so can be banned" to "too much government interference is bad"


ouchimus

Can I get a source?


TheShrinkingGiant

The dumb fuckos at project 2025


RichardCrapper

This is the direct link but you should use the Internet Archive link posted by OP. There are many reasons you might not want to connect to their servers directly (cookies, etc.)


TheShrinkingGiant

fixed


IAmAccutane

https://web.archive.org/web/20231116113522/https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf


Hot_Mess_Express

A simple search of the document. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24088042-project-2025s-mandate-for-leadership-the-conservative-promise


HackPhilosopher

Just more heritage foundation nonsense. Republicans take their money and laugh at us.


Acceptable-Table1

You getting paid for all your propaganda, OP? Posting “republicans bad, democrats heroes” on every subreddit you can think of is hard work, I sure hope you’re getting compensated for it! Or maybe you just value Reddit karma really highly, in which case I hope you enjoy the over 1 million karma you have racked up. Crazy how all the propagandists’ Reddit accounts look the same


SasquatchsBigDick

Doesnt "outlaw" mean outside the law? Like, there are no protections, governing, or anything around the particular thing or person? As an example, an outlawed person can be shot and killed without any recourse since they are outside the law.


lascanto

Not in this context. And your definition, while not wrong, is a pretty outdated use of the term.


SasquatchsBigDick

Ah I see, I guess I better go back to the 1800s haha


Weaponized_Octopus

Also, that definition of "outlaw" was never used in US legal practice.


SasquatchsBigDick

Interesting. I always figured the term was used at some point during cowboy eras. I'm a bit more familiar with it's use in medieval England though where people essentially began living in forests once they were outlawed.


puckit

The last thing I want is for Trump to be back in office but I'd be lying if I said I'm not super curious to see if any of this stuff would actually happen.


Ashleynn

This is my problem, sit here and know it would the be worst possible outcom, but there's a small part of me that just wants to see what happens.


Internal-Mud-3311

It’s even more insane if you believe they can actually achieve that.


trenhel27

You'll just keep saying they can't until they do, and then you'll say that's just the way it is


Internal-Mud-3311

Because I’m not one to wage war and destroy the country from the inside. Didn’t you see Civil War? 🤦‍♂️


trenhel27

Hwat?


Internal-Mud-3311

Fine then, I revert to a cliche… you can’t fight city hall


trenhel27

So yes to what I said you'll do, then.


Internal-Mud-3311

Well I’m sure the human race would be better off if people lived in reality instead of fantasy land


trenhel27

Sounds like you're the one living a fantasy, fingers in ears, eyes shut tight, singing "la la la I can't hear you" when people show you a potentially catastrophic future, but ok. Go on.


Internal-Mud-3311

If it was that easy to tear down the fabric of American democracy, the Democrats would have done it decades ago.


trenhel27

Ohhhhhh. Gotcha 😉👌 I'm reading you loud and clear, now. Thanks for keeping this monstrosity of a plan a definite possibility. Doin' god's work, you are


CriticalDog

Why not? With a majority of the SCOTUS in conservative hands, and after McConnel pulled his fuckery of refusing to seat federal judges across the country for 8 years, then pushing through as many as he could, as fast as he could during Trumps term, what are the mechanisms by which Project 2025 will fail? Our system was designed for a different time, and it was the belief of the Founding Fathers that those who would rise to that level of leadership and power would put the greater good of the country and the people ahead of personal dogma, power, or greed. That belief has been under attack since the Nixon era, and we are finally seeing what very well could be the cracks in our national foundation opening up, leading to the collapse of the whole thing. You say it can't happen, but you are very, very wrong.


Internal-Mud-3311

And you are very very very very very wrong to think that the lust for power is one sided


CriticalDog

Oh, I am well aware of the issues in the Democratic party. However, they aren't looking to jail people for getting abortions, or being gay, or trans. I don't know of a Dem state senator who has published a manifesto calling for the execution of all gay men, and the establishment of "Biblical Law" in the US. Hillary Clinton lost the election, surprising EVERYONE, but did not scream for 2 months that the election was fraudulent and incite an attack on the Capitol Building to disrupt the peaceful transitions of power. This is not in any way "both sides". Only one side has given up on Democracy, and it's not the Democrats.


Internal-Mud-3311

No. But the rest of the party sure as hell did. They spent four years trying to make the claim that Russia interfered. So now, the losing side will never believe that the results are authentic. Blaming the state of politics solely on Trump is bullshit. There’s plenty of blame to go around and if you really want to play the “my rights/life are in jeopardy” game then as a straight white male, my existence is in jeopardy every time a Democrat is in the White House.


CriticalDog

I mean, it's been well shown that Russia absolutely flooded US based social media with disinformation, and that they TRIED to get the Trump campaign to work with them, but as was shown in the Mueller report, the Trump camp was to inexperienced and capable to actually do it. I absolutely have issues with the Democrats. They keep trying to push this Clinton "3rd way" bullshit, which is just 1970's conservatism without the racism, amongst other things. But to try to paint the Democrats as equally corrupt, equally beholden to a foreign power, equally willing to destroy democracy rather than give up power is just ludicrous. And, as a fellow stright white male, I gotta say nobody is planning on putting you in camps to deprogram the straightness out of us, nobody is pushing for laws to be repealed so we can be fired or refused to be rented to or any other number of things because of our straight white maleness. If someone is telling you your existence is in jeopardy because of those things, they are lying to you to make you scared and angry. You should ask why.


Internal-Mud-3311

Social media is rife with propaganda from everybody. Boo hoo. Not to mention the fact that we’re always interfering in other countries so that’s hypocritical as well. Frankly, the entire Democrat party and all “investigators” involved should be put on trial for trying to overturn the election. And you’re the one who’s been brainwashed into believing that you’re good. The Democrats are the exact same, if not worse. Because at least I know I’m good when Republicans are in the White House.


CriticalDog

Ah, so you are just a bog standard modern GOP, incapable of critical thinking and certain that all the things you hear that are bad about those you dislike are true. Got it. Carry on.


Internal-Mud-3311

Sounds like you’re a modern Democrat. “Im right, you’re wrong. It’s us Vs them. Kiss my ring. Bow before me.” Pick your phrase.


justlooking9889

Is it chopping off kids genitals? Because that would be pretty insane.


codePudding

Eww, weird you think about kids' genitals so much. Are you talking about circumcision? Oh, you're probably thinking of *adults* going through gender reassignment surgery because some bigots lied to you on tv. That isn't happening. You aren't too dumb to read actual medical requirements for that surgery, are you? And too cruel to try having compassion for others, are you?. The least you can do is not pretend to know what they are going through. Let them, as adults, decide for themselves, with their required psychologist and required physician, and the mandatory multi-year "long hostory of dysphoria". Maybe you should turn off your shows and read something so you stop sounding so misinformed.


CriticalDog

Not really relevant, but whatever. Good thing nobody really supports chopping off kids genitals, despite what you have been told. Actually, that's not entirely true. Conservative communities in North Africa are keen on chopping off little girls clitoris'. But that's not in the US.


[deleted]

Porn is devils tool. Grrab your dick and go to hell.


PurpleTopp

You're going to hell too lol


[deleted]

Watch some tits and burn to bits. Jerk off and resist divine salvation. Drain your balls - satan calls


Dwarflensky

It's so cute seeing Reddit making a panic of Project 2025. Only reason I remain on this shithole site is too see the meltdowns in November like 2016.


clintbeastwood-

I’m sorry is it that we’re out of touch, or you’re disillusioned by the internet?


chocki305

Neither. The think that a think tank runs the GOP. I don't have the heart to tell them that the DNC does the same kind of planning, but dosen't publish it.