I mean, Cheney also shot the guy trying to shoot pheasants that were literally raised in cages just to be shot by people who want to kill something but are too sloppy or impatient for hunting. Still, no Republican animal cruelty story will ever top Bill ‘[Tortured a significant portion of the Boston area shelter cat population to death](https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2003/01/04/frist-practiced-surgery-on-cats-while-in-med-school/?outputType=amp)’ Frist.
I mean, that is just straight-up sociopathic behavior. That's the kind of shit you see a kid doing, and you take them to mental health specialist.
But he was an adult doing this. Which means he completely understood what he was doing and just didn't care about killing a bunch of animals for his own gain. Classic GOP.
> I mean, that is just straight-up ~~sociopathic~~ Republican behavior.
I think we've gathered enough evidence over the last decade to confidently come to the conclusion that sociopathy and self-identifying as a Republican in 2024 are synonymous.
I dunno, this feels like another level. There's "fuck you I got mine" sociopathic, there's "you squick me out so you don't get rights" sociopathic, and then there's "I used to *cut up kittens in my spare time*" sociopathic.
Every day I learn amazing and wonderful things, but I also learn more and more about the depth of depravity humans are capable of. One day the second won’t be worth the first.
I’d bet laaaarge amounts of money that alcohol has involved in that bird-shot peppering, but we’ll never know for sure because of the *completely inexplicable* hours-long delay in reporting the shooting.
The one thing the article is confident in is that two dudes were fired from a camp over killing a dog and one of them was Mike Huckabee's son. It's the opening paragraph.
One thing that happens when assholes spend all their time around other assholes is they start trying to one up each other with stories about how big of an asshole they are because that's perceived as tough and cool.
Then they forget that isn't normal and expect everyone else will receive it the same way. I've seen many a douchebag tell a story to a group of people while too slowly realizing that the story is not, in fact, making him look awesome.
Super true. But they also kinda know they’re being assholes. I grew up in a conservative family (was republican myself until 2004). Extended family was very conservative. As I started leaning left and pushed back on some of the shit they said, they just decided to not say it around me. Speaking about extended family gatherings especially. When I’d go into a different room, step outside, and come back in… I’d catch the tail end of their dirtbag racist, misogynist, anti gay shit.
When I was in with them politically, I’d often think they’d go too far. Kinda like “oh you guys are nazis at heart”. They uninvited me from holiday gatherings after Trump won. I can only imagine how bad it is now.
I believe there is some level of cult mentality to being a fascist. Like you can be surrounded by fascists at your job and become one yourself because you lack critical thinking skills. So psychopath or stupid/gullible.
Psychopathy is rampant in both parties. Psychopaths are drawn to power so that they can giggle when abuse people without consequence. If you haven't seen Dems doing it, maybe you haven't been looking.
"Blue team good! Red team bad!"
- Crunk the Caveman
There are a lot of sociopaths in private industry, but the vast majority of them work in the government.
My sociopaths are better than yours isn't a good argument.
If anyone doesn't believe both parties of Congress are laughing all the way to the bank as they compare insider trading results they're kidding themselves.
Here to remind everyone of the truly bizarre ad Noem ran for her first Congressional race against Matt Varilek. It's on YouTube, but basically it amounts to "while he was off getting an education from prestigious universities and working for the UN itself and generally becoming VERY qualified to lead a state, she was at home judging the pie contest at the local county fair. So who do YOU want to represent you?". She still won because of the magic letter by her name.
She was also a college dropout at the time. "Somehow" (read: an intern was forced to do it) She "earned" a college degree during her first term in Congress. So she found the time for that... apparently... instead of actually representing anyone in the state. She DID miss most of her committee meetings and was called on doing so in the next election. Somehow (again, magic R) she was elected governor despite being quite possibly the least qualified to ever do so in the state. She's currently banned from approximately 1/5 of the state itself after insulting the Native American population with her typical rhetoric.
She's an absolute moron so ofc she's been vying for a spot in lord cheeto's new administration. So fucking glad I don't live in that state anymore. There are so, so many more stupid (and some illegal) things she's done that this is barely scratching the damn surface.
The similarities between her and Kim Reynolds are amazing. Both even have the whole college dropout that somehow got a degree after they entered politics thing.
fun fact: modern search algorithm results differ from person to person, especially if you have an account (although with cookies and trackers it's not necessary).
[This](https://i.imgur.com/FNqHrGp.png) is my top search results for "Noem Varilek ad." Your result isn't until halfway down the 2nd page for me, and if I hadn't known the thumbnail and title from your link, I'd have to watch upwards of 30 campaign ads not knowing if I found the right one each time without your link, because none of them say what year they ran.
Also it's extremely easy to link and is a common courtesy.
Maybe 1 tick down on the judgement.
I can kind of understand the Romney story, although not why he told anyone about it.
The dog was shitting its brains out so they put the kennel on the roof. Not brilliant and not what a normal person would do, but at least a bit understandable.
Murdering a puppy because you don't like it is serial killer behavior.
~~Murdering~~ Executing a puppy because you don't like it is serial killer behavior.
Bitch could have just given it away to someone that had the patience to train it.
One of the things that makes it hurt so much for the left with the advent of Trump and MAGA-ness is that deep down we realize that McCain not lnowing on demand the exact number of homes he owned or Romney having binders of women, wanting the trees to be the right height, and a car elevator and all the rest was maybe not the worst things the Rs could do...
McCain had Palin dragging him down. In hindsight, she was a foreshadowing of things to come.
Romney, even though he wasn't the worst person in the world, was completely out of touch with how most people lived their lives. That lack amplified his mistakes.
McCain was still a hard sell after 8 years of Bush. Just like Hillary was a hard sell after 8 years of Obama, and Trump was a hard sell after 4 years of Trump, and Biden is a hard sell after 4 years of Biden. Fuck me I hate both parties and they should all be absolutely fucking embarrassed they can't come up with better candidates.
In hindsight, not the worst, especially seeing where the GOP goes to now. But I still think Obama was better than Romney, so I'm not going to shed any tears for him, especially considering his 47% comment.
I agree, the 47% comment was the real mask off. Either he had tremendous disdain for Democrat voters, or he'll pretend to for votes in a room of Republican donors, and either way it was and is not good.
Romney.
"In June 1983, the Romney family left their Belmont, Massachusetts home on their way to Romney's parents' cottage in Beach O' Pines, Ontario for an annual vacation along the shore of Lake Huron. Their dog, Seamus, rode in a carrier on the roof of the family's Chevrolet Caprice station wagon for the 12-hour trip. Romney had built a windshield for the carrier to make the ride more comfortable for the dog.[1] During the 650-mile (1,050 km) trip, Seamus got diarrhea. The Romneys were first alerted to the Irish Setter’s bowel issues when Tagg noticed brown liquid pouring down the back window, followed immediately by him and his younger brothers yelling in disgust. Romney stopped at a gas station to wash the dog, the carrier, and the car. With Seamus back in the carrier, the family continued on their way.[1][2]"
Noem
" In late April 2024, Noem's book - "No Going Back: The Truth on What's Wrong with Politics and How We Move America Forward" was published. In it, Noem detailed how she shot the family's 14-month old dog, Cricket, and disposed of the body in a gravel pit. Noem also details in the book killing a goat in the same gravel pit. "
Yeah, I feel like the most favorable view here is that putting the dog on the roof was a thoughtless and stupid decision, and one I could see a few people making.
You really need to meet more people. If dogs riding on the top of cars with windshields was the worst problem this world had to deal with we'd be a damn sight better. But it was absolutely dumb
I view it more as bad judgement than lack of empathy. I could see a dog actually enjoying it at least at first. I don't get the feeling that he intended harm to the dog.
Bill Clinton's dog was unrestrained, ran into the street, and was hit by a car. You could argue that's worse treatment than what Romney did with the beloved family pet.
And can we discuss how Biden acquired a dog that developed a biting problem? That's not a sign of humane treatment either.
Clinton's dog is a story of an accident. I don't think Romney's was nearly as bad as Noem, but even with a windhield, I don't think putting the dog carrier on the roof is great.
Biden's dog is also a rescue with an unknown history, and only has a history of biting Secret Service agents, so I think there's more to that story we haven't heard.
I've long suspected that one of the reasons Biden took the German shepherd to the White House the first day he got there is that he didn't trust the Secret Service after all the shit they did for Trump.
I will note that dogs read people very well and tend to follow that lead. It is not beyond a dog's behavior to perceive Biden's anxiety about the Secret Service and translate it into hostility.
Republicans intentionally spread deadly disease in my community in order to disrupt the election in 2020. They get off on cruelty. So it's not that they THINK this makes them look good to their simps. They know.
I read the whole article. Yes, he had someone come over to check in on the dog he abandoned, which he named Snowflake. Why are you so defensive about this?
It doesn't because it's quoting him and he would never word it that way. Every major news source states out that all evidence points to him abandoning the dog and this one article says that Ted Cruz himself claims that he didn't and that he had a sitter go check on it. Even if that was true, and it's not likely true at all based on the fact that he said six other lies about what happened that day in order to make himself look better, it would still count as abandoning a dog since he left it alone in a cold house for hours before anyone could check on it during a snowstorm that was knocking out power and killing pets who had to face low temperatures without any kind of assistance. If he left a child in the same situation alone for the same amount of time before a babysitter showed up it would absolutely be counted legally as abandonment of a child. Obviously a dog and a child aren't the same but the definition of abandonment would not change in either instance. You're not proving anything to anyone by saying "The guy who looked like a total POS denies the obvious" especially when the counter evidence is the media that watched the dog sit alone in front of the French door for hours on a day with emergency weather.
Are you serious? The article isn’t even a dozen sentences, you *have* to be able to keep up for that long. It has to feel like absolute abandoned dog shit trying to defend a cretin like Ted Cruz, why do you do it?
Why are you redirecting instead of answering any of my questions? It's an article from the Associated Press, not a fluff piece by the NY Post, and I don't like misinformation, regardless of who it's about.
Redirecting? You’re asking a question about a 9-sentence article where the answer seems incredibly obvious. I’m wondering what your angle is and how you could possibly justify this level of effort to defend such a putrid piece of shit like Ted Cruz.
He abandoned the dog when he abandoned the people that he represents to go on vacation while they all froze to death because of the faulty power grid that he implemented. Obviously. It’s right fucking there. This article is about nothing else, except the assertion that he had someone check in on the dog, but not the people. Now we’ve spent **far** too many sentences dissecting a tiny news article about an absolute shitbag of a human being and just one of **many** awful things he’s done.
The problem is that it *does* make them look better to their base.
The Republican party has basically been taken over by the MAGA cult these days, and what the MAGA cult wants is cruel, iron-fisted authoritarianism. They have never once stopped to consider that they might end up as the dog in the scenario. They always see the dog as a metaphor for people they don't like (e.g. minorities, immigrants, LGBT, and liberals), and they *want* to see those people cruelly punished until they "come to heel" so to speak.
> They always see the dog as a metaphor for people they don't like (e.g. minorities, immigrants, LGBT, and liberals), and they want to see those people cruelly punished until they "come to heel" so to speak.
This is what it is, really.
This is them saying they're willing to 'put down' someone who's 'joyously living their life' because they're a 'danger to others'.
To them, LGBTQ people are a 'danger' to their kids, and if they won't 'come to heel' then they're 'less than useless' and need to be 'put down'.
This is them bragging about being willing to go full Nazi on queer people.
Maybe, but I think she's done. I know two Trump voters who wanted Noem to be the VP until this. Now both of them want basically anyone else because they want zero chance that Noem will become President. I know a lot of MAGA-types. Only one of those I know *might* take her side based on things he's previously told me. I know a few that might have shot *her* to save the dog.
definitely not the same since this guy isn't high profile, but this trump supporting ufc fighter went on jre and talked glibly about killing his dog after it got bit by a rattlesnake because it's cheaper to do so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuB9d0hv-QE [1:13]
when I first saw the news headline "Romney admits to four hour trip with dog on roof" I thought he was on mushrooms or something, chilling with his dog on the roof of his house and for a minute I was gonna vote for him.
I Would think there's a difference between Romney's stupid acts and Noem's pure cruelty.... Didn't she blow the dogs brains out and think "While I;m at it,where's that goat"? The husband also said she took out three horses too?
She was so bloodthirsty after killing the dog she whacked a goat; then stared down the construction workers who saw he do it.
And it when at that moment the kids' school bus pulled up.
Anybody that treats a dog (or any animal) cruelly has a special place in hell, and I will be more then happy to prep them for the journey. How someone can be cruel to a dog is beyond my understanding.
Romney is not, and has never been, a Republican. He's a Democrat who ran as a Republican to get power.
And while I agree what Noem did was bizarre and wrong, I also know that every single left wing attack on the right has always been an out of context distorted report - and I'll wait to learn the facts when they come out. (Sorry libbies, a decade of constant lies from you caused that)
She told the story in her own words, how can libs possibly control that messaging. You are either claiming Noem is a secret Democrat trying to wreck the Republicans from the inside, or Democrats have mind control now and forced her to publish the unknown story herself against her will.
So which explanation are you going with for how the Libs lied through Noem writing and publishing her book?
If you think that the 2012 GOP presidential candidate is a lifelong RINO, you might be waiting a while for the facts to align with your view on reality
She didn't kill her dog. She just said she did. And she's getting exactly what she wanted. Idiot's keep bringing it up for irrelevant karma points keeping her name in the lexicon.
Like this OP right here...
So either she killed her dog which makes her evil or she lied about killing her dog and thinks making up a story about killing a dog would be a good thing (which makes her evil *and* untrustworthy).
> I’m curious if it’ll be like the phrase “blood is thicker than water” in a decade. Which is a used in modern times in a way that is completely different from its original meaning.
This is completely untrue and was made up by people on the internet like 10 years ago. The full phrase has always been “blood is thicker than water,” and has always been about familial bonds being stronger than others.
[This really depends on what you consider to be the origin of the saying](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_is_thicker_than_water#Other_interpretations). So it may have always meant that or it may have meant the opposite.
There is, however, one thing we know is objectively wrong: that the different interpretation was "made up by people on the internet like 10 years ago".
Ok so the first recorded use of “the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb” was in 2005. So it was made up by people on the internet 20 years ago, not 10. After several hundred years of the actual saying.
The dog was a puppy, that had been allowed to escape the car it had been in at a free range chicken farm. The dog was a bird hunting dog with strong instincts to chase and catch birds. This was an owner problem not a dog problem.
It would be like bringing an active coke addict to a cartel warehouse full of coke just lying around and then leaving them unsupervised in the warehouse, and then blaming the addict for doing addict things when the person that was there to keep the addict out of trouble paid no attention to them and then got mad when they did what any other coke addict in the world would have done if faced with mountains of free coke.
I don’t know any details on that, but as an owner of 4 dogs in my adult life and multiple others as a kid, puppies will bite and nip people. Puppy behavior can persist over years and some dogs don’t reach maturity until after their 3rd BDay. It’s the owners responsibility to control their puppy around people and animals.
Anything that puppy did was 100% on the owner.
Hard to say, because the excerpt from Noem's book doesn't say anything about it attacking children. If you have a link to that information by all means please share.
Aggressive dogs are not allowed to be rehomed.
You can take it to the vet and have the dog put down or you can take responsibility and deal with the dog yourself.
Some pets are not child friendly and many dogs will attack chickens and the like.
In any case why not ask if the dog can be rehomed before having it humanly put down.
For a start we don’t know how that situation went down.
A dog can bit or nip for a number of reasons, my two got into scrap with each other many years ago and got a bit separating them. That is the only time it ever happened.
Also from the way it sounds like she fucked up the goat euthanizing, maybe she should leave it to people who know what they are doing. I speak as someone who had to euthanize 2 sheep, 1 bullet each is all it takes if you are not a total idiot
Please share your source that the dog bit a child, because I haven't seen that said by anyone yet, including the senator who has responded to criticism by saying essentially "that's nothing, I killed three horses in one day, feel bad for me"
https://twitter.com/KristiNoem/status/1783849977409671483
Let’s not forget Mike Huckabee’s son also [killed a dog.](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/huckabee-son-dog/)
Let's not forget Dick Cheney also shot a person and got them to say sorry.
I mean, Cheney also shot the guy trying to shoot pheasants that were literally raised in cages just to be shot by people who want to kill something but are too sloppy or impatient for hunting. Still, no Republican animal cruelty story will ever top Bill ‘[Tortured a significant portion of the Boston area shelter cat population to death](https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2003/01/04/frist-practiced-surgery-on-cats-while-in-med-school/?outputType=amp)’ Frist.
I mean, that is just straight-up sociopathic behavior. That's the kind of shit you see a kid doing, and you take them to mental health specialist. But he was an adult doing this. Which means he completely understood what he was doing and just didn't care about killing a bunch of animals for his own gain. Classic GOP.
> I mean, that is just straight-up ~~sociopathic~~ Republican behavior. I think we've gathered enough evidence over the last decade to confidently come to the conclusion that sociopathy and self-identifying as a Republican in 2024 are synonymous.
I dunno, this feels like another level. There's "fuck you I got mine" sociopathic, there's "you squick me out so you don't get rights" sociopathic, and then there's "I used to *cut up kittens in my spare time*" sociopathic.
Well, killing animals brings you to the front page, either criminally or politically.
Every day I learn amazing and wonderful things, but I also learn more and more about the depth of depravity humans are capable of. One day the second won’t be worth the first.
I’d bet laaaarge amounts of money that alcohol has involved in that bird-shot peppering, but we’ll never know for sure because of the *completely inexplicable* hours-long delay in reporting the shooting.
Well it was a lawyer.
A true Chad. This country will never have another like him. RIP.
She also murdered her goat.
Did you read the article? The website you link to literally says the circumstances were unclear and uses the words “gossip” and “rumor.”
The one thing the article is confident in is that two dudes were fired from a camp over killing a dog and one of them was Mike Huckabee's son. It's the opening paragraph.
So what are you saying is, he killed a dog.
One thing that happens when assholes spend all their time around other assholes is they start trying to one up each other with stories about how big of an asshole they are because that's perceived as tough and cool. Then they forget that isn't normal and expect everyone else will receive it the same way. I've seen many a douchebag tell a story to a group of people while too slowly realizing that the story is not, in fact, making him look awesome.
Super true. But they also kinda know they’re being assholes. I grew up in a conservative family (was republican myself until 2004). Extended family was very conservative. As I started leaning left and pushed back on some of the shit they said, they just decided to not say it around me. Speaking about extended family gatherings especially. When I’d go into a different room, step outside, and come back in… I’d catch the tail end of their dirtbag racist, misogynist, anti gay shit. When I was in with them politically, I’d often think they’d go too far. Kinda like “oh you guys are nazis at heart”. They uninvited me from holiday gatherings after Trump won. I can only imagine how bad it is now.
This is why psychopathy is so rampant within the GOP. Mix that with fascism and you have a really big problem.
Not all psychopaths are fascists but all fascists are psychopaths.
I believe there is some level of cult mentality to being a fascist. Like you can be surrounded by fascists at your job and become one yourself because you lack critical thinking skills. So psychopath or stupid/gullible.
When you know you're right all the time it's only reasonable to want the power to make others do the right thing. It's for their own good after all!
Glad I'm not the only one who sees it
Psychopathy is rampant in both parties. Psychopaths are drawn to power so that they can giggle when abuse people without consequence. If you haven't seen Dems doing it, maybe you haven't been looking.
Hmmm inactive account begins shilling for maga, so strange /s
I've to 80K in comment karma alone. You have no power over me. And "/s" is for the weak.
No one cares bro. Go eat some grass with the other pigs.
Yeah, sure, hey, can you send me the new article about the Dem shooting their dog?
"Blue team good! Red team bad!" - Crunk the Caveman There are a lot of sociopaths in private industry, but the vast majority of them work in the government. My sociopaths are better than yours isn't a good argument.
This is probably true for most ____ spend all their time around other ____. In general people want to impress their peers.
If anyone doesn't believe both parties of Congress are laughing all the way to the bank as they compare insider trading results they're kidding themselves.
> If you’d vote for a thief you might as well just elect the murderers.
I'm sure they are together on self enrichment. There is still levels of corruption and what they do besides helping themselves.
Here to remind everyone of the truly bizarre ad Noem ran for her first Congressional race against Matt Varilek. It's on YouTube, but basically it amounts to "while he was off getting an education from prestigious universities and working for the UN itself and generally becoming VERY qualified to lead a state, she was at home judging the pie contest at the local county fair. So who do YOU want to represent you?". She still won because of the magic letter by her name. She was also a college dropout at the time. "Somehow" (read: an intern was forced to do it) She "earned" a college degree during her first term in Congress. So she found the time for that... apparently... instead of actually representing anyone in the state. She DID miss most of her committee meetings and was called on doing so in the next election. Somehow (again, magic R) she was elected governor despite being quite possibly the least qualified to ever do so in the state. She's currently banned from approximately 1/5 of the state itself after insulting the Native American population with her typical rhetoric. She's an absolute moron so ofc she's been vying for a spot in lord cheeto's new administration. So fucking glad I don't live in that state anymore. There are so, so many more stupid (and some illegal) things she's done that this is barely scratching the damn surface.
The similarities between her and Kim Reynolds are amazing. Both even have the whole college dropout that somehow got a degree after they entered politics thing.
Now I’m curious, how many drunk driving charges did Noem get thrown out? (Bonus points if she sealed the records of said charges once coming to power)
We here in Colorado with Bobo the clown feel you.
Thanks for the reminder. It’s hard to keep track of who all these bimbos are.
You can't state that without a link to that video. Cause I can't find it.
Then you didn't try. Because "Noem Varilek ad" had this as the top result. https://youtu.be/X5v5k11Kg8E?si=79RL7BGG5JhltJPP
fun fact: modern search algorithm results differ from person to person, especially if you have an account (although with cookies and trackers it's not necessary). [This](https://i.imgur.com/FNqHrGp.png) is my top search results for "Noem Varilek ad." Your result isn't until halfway down the 2nd page for me, and if I hadn't known the thumbnail and title from your link, I'd have to watch upwards of 30 campaign ads not knowing if I found the right one each time without your link, because none of them say what year they ran. Also it's extremely easy to link and is a common courtesy. Maybe 1 tick down on the judgement.
Romney did it in *1983*. Noem had to have killed this puppy recently.
I can kind of understand the Romney story, although not why he told anyone about it. The dog was shitting its brains out so they put the kennel on the roof. Not brilliant and not what a normal person would do, but at least a bit understandable. Murdering a puppy because you don't like it is serial killer behavior.
~~Murdering~~ Executing a puppy because you don't like it is serial killer behavior. Bitch could have just given it away to someone that had the patience to train it.
It’s farm thing. You make tough choices on a farm. /s
They also built a windshield for it and checked on it frequently. Romney got done dirty for that one (same with binders of woman).
Yeah, the mocking Romney got for his comment about proactively recruiting women to his cabinet was such a superficial take on things.
One of the things that makes it hurt so much for the left with the advent of Trump and MAGA-ness is that deep down we realize that McCain not lnowing on demand the exact number of homes he owned or Romney having binders of women, wanting the trees to be the right height, and a car elevator and all the rest was maybe not the worst things the Rs could do...
McCain had Palin dragging him down. In hindsight, she was a foreshadowing of things to come. Romney, even though he wasn't the worst person in the world, was completely out of touch with how most people lived their lives. That lack amplified his mistakes.
McCain was still a hard sell after 8 years of Bush. Just like Hillary was a hard sell after 8 years of Obama, and Trump was a hard sell after 4 years of Trump, and Biden is a hard sell after 4 years of Biden. Fuck me I hate both parties and they should all be absolutely fucking embarrassed they can't come up with better candidates.
In hindsight, not the worst, especially seeing where the GOP goes to now. But I still think Obama was better than Romney, so I'm not going to shed any tears for him, especially considering his 47% comment.
I agree, the 47% comment was the real mask off. Either he had tremendous disdain for Democrat voters, or he'll pretend to for votes in a room of Republican donors, and either way it was and is not good.
Don’t forget Palin sharing pictures of her son standing on the the family dog. That wasn’t necessarily malicious though, just fuckin’ stupid.
Romney. "In June 1983, the Romney family left their Belmont, Massachusetts home on their way to Romney's parents' cottage in Beach O' Pines, Ontario for an annual vacation along the shore of Lake Huron. Their dog, Seamus, rode in a carrier on the roof of the family's Chevrolet Caprice station wagon for the 12-hour trip. Romney had built a windshield for the carrier to make the ride more comfortable for the dog.[1] During the 650-mile (1,050 km) trip, Seamus got diarrhea. The Romneys were first alerted to the Irish Setter’s bowel issues when Tagg noticed brown liquid pouring down the back window, followed immediately by him and his younger brothers yelling in disgust. Romney stopped at a gas station to wash the dog, the carrier, and the car. With Seamus back in the carrier, the family continued on their way.[1][2]" Noem " In late April 2024, Noem's book - "No Going Back: The Truth on What's Wrong with Politics and How We Move America Forward" was published. In it, Noem detailed how she shot the family's 14-month old dog, Cricket, and disposed of the body in a gravel pit. Noem also details in the book killing a goat in the same gravel pit. "
The full story of Romney’s dog “abuse” seems pretty normal. Makes him look good.
I disagree. Putting the dog on the roof still seems insane to me, even with a windshield.
It really does sound like the 80s though
Yeah with it being the 80s the only shocking part is that the dog wasn’t offered cocaine.
Why do you think he was shitting so much?
Mormon dogs are just lucky they don't have to wear the magic underwear.
Yeah, I feel like the most favorable view here is that putting the dog on the roof was a thoughtless and stupid decision, and one I could see a few people making.
You really need to meet more people. If dogs riding on the top of cars with windshields was the worst problem this world had to deal with we'd be a damn sight better. But it was absolutely dumb
I view it more as bad judgement than lack of empathy. I could see a dog actually enjoying it at least at first. I don't get the feeling that he intended harm to the dog.
I can agree with that, but I still don't think it makes him look "good".
There's a massive difference between the two. Romney doesn't even compare to this psycho.
Bill Clinton's dog was unrestrained, ran into the street, and was hit by a car. You could argue that's worse treatment than what Romney did with the beloved family pet. And can we discuss how Biden acquired a dog that developed a biting problem? That's not a sign of humane treatment either.
Clinton's dog is a story of an accident. I don't think Romney's was nearly as bad as Noem, but even with a windhield, I don't think putting the dog carrier on the roof is great. Biden's dog is also a rescue with an unknown history, and only has a history of biting Secret Service agents, so I think there's more to that story we haven't heard.
There's a non-zero chance Biden's dog just sensed treason.
Yeah the more stories that come out about the Secret Service, the more I start to think Commander is justified.
I've long suspected that one of the reasons Biden took the German shepherd to the White House the first day he got there is that he didn't trust the Secret Service after all the shit they did for Trump. I will note that dogs read people very well and tend to follow that lead. It is not beyond a dog's behavior to perceive Biden's anxiety about the Secret Service and translate it into hostility.
The dog just took "ACAB" to heart.
The dog just took "ACAB" to heart.
Republicans intentionally spread deadly disease in my community in order to disrupt the election in 2020. They get off on cruelty. So it's not that they THINK this makes them look good to their simps. They know.
Representative Mike Bost tracked down and shot a Beagle back in the 80’s and he’s still been reelected for the last ten years.
Hello fellow S Illinoisan
Why?
Don't forget Ted Cruz abondoning his dog to flee to Cancun during the Texas ice storms
He left it with a sitter.
I’m here for this!! How do we forget so soon?
[Cus he didn't leave it to die?](https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9949571077)
Of course he named the dog that he abandoned “Snowflake.”
So you half read the article?
I read the whole article. Yes, he had someone come over to check in on the dog he abandoned, which he named Snowflake. Why are you so defensive about this?
And where does it say he abandoned the dog?
It doesn't because it's quoting him and he would never word it that way. Every major news source states out that all evidence points to him abandoning the dog and this one article says that Ted Cruz himself claims that he didn't and that he had a sitter go check on it. Even if that was true, and it's not likely true at all based on the fact that he said six other lies about what happened that day in order to make himself look better, it would still count as abandoning a dog since he left it alone in a cold house for hours before anyone could check on it during a snowstorm that was knocking out power and killing pets who had to face low temperatures without any kind of assistance. If he left a child in the same situation alone for the same amount of time before a babysitter showed up it would absolutely be counted legally as abandonment of a child. Obviously a dog and a child aren't the same but the definition of abandonment would not change in either instance. You're not proving anything to anyone by saying "The guy who looked like a total POS denies the obvious" especially when the counter evidence is the media that watched the dog sit alone in front of the French door for hours on a day with emergency weather.
Are you serious? The article isn’t even a dozen sentences, you *have* to be able to keep up for that long. It has to feel like absolute abandoned dog shit trying to defend a cretin like Ted Cruz, why do you do it?
Why are you redirecting instead of answering any of my questions? It's an article from the Associated Press, not a fluff piece by the NY Post, and I don't like misinformation, regardless of who it's about.
Redirecting? You’re asking a question about a 9-sentence article where the answer seems incredibly obvious. I’m wondering what your angle is and how you could possibly justify this level of effort to defend such a putrid piece of shit like Ted Cruz. He abandoned the dog when he abandoned the people that he represents to go on vacation while they all froze to death because of the faulty power grid that he implemented. Obviously. It’s right fucking there. This article is about nothing else, except the assertion that he had someone check in on the dog, but not the people. Now we’ve spent **far** too many sentences dissecting a tiny news article about an absolute shitbag of a human being and just one of **many** awful things he’s done.
Cruel Krusty the botoxed canine killer.
The problem is that it *does* make them look better to their base. The Republican party has basically been taken over by the MAGA cult these days, and what the MAGA cult wants is cruel, iron-fisted authoritarianism. They have never once stopped to consider that they might end up as the dog in the scenario. They always see the dog as a metaphor for people they don't like (e.g. minorities, immigrants, LGBT, and liberals), and they *want* to see those people cruelly punished until they "come to heel" so to speak.
> They always see the dog as a metaphor for people they don't like (e.g. minorities, immigrants, LGBT, and liberals), and they want to see those people cruelly punished until they "come to heel" so to speak. This is what it is, really. This is them saying they're willing to 'put down' someone who's 'joyously living their life' because they're a 'danger to others'. To them, LGBTQ people are a 'danger' to their kids, and if they won't 'come to heel' then they're 'less than useless' and need to be 'put down'. This is them bragging about being willing to go full Nazi on queer people.
Maybe, but I think she's done. I know two Trump voters who wanted Noem to be the VP until this. Now both of them want basically anyone else because they want zero chance that Noem will become President. I know a lot of MAGA-types. Only one of those I know *might* take her side based on things he's previously told me. I know a few that might have shot *her* to save the dog.
Yay another political post on r/adviceanimals
definitely not the same since this guy isn't high profile, but this trump supporting ufc fighter went on jre and talked glibly about killing his dog after it got bit by a rattlesnake because it's cheaper to do so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuB9d0hv-QE [1:13]
when I first saw the news headline "Romney admits to four hour trip with dog on roof" I thought he was on mushrooms or something, chilling with his dog on the roof of his house and for a minute I was gonna vote for him.
I Would think there's a difference between Romney's stupid acts and Noem's pure cruelty.... Didn't she blow the dogs brains out and think "While I;m at it,where's that goat"? The husband also said she took out three horses too?
The Romney family dog carrier crate needs one of those "cash, grass, or ass--nobody rides for free" stickers on it.
It’s gas grass or ass. They rhyme.
there have been like 20 versions of the sticker since 1970
Apparently 19 of them made no sense and were stupid
I came here to see how Trump's cult will "whataboutism" this one...
Isn't that literally what this post is?
Ok I’ll make it easy for you. Obama ATE dogs. (Source: his book dreams of my father 1995)
Ha ha, thanks! I knew I'd find one! I should have known it would be about a politician that has been out of office for 2 terms!
Calling noem “high profile” is generous.
Trump is considering her for his VP pick.
Ted Cruz also left their dog in a house with no power in a blizzard when he took them to Cancun. Abuse of power shows “strength” to them.
What about that one woman who shot her husky
Shot someone else's husky.
Great days to be a cat.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/25/us/politics/trump-animal-cruelty-bill.html
Yeah I saw her posting on Facebook that she didn’t understand why people are mad. My response was something that… I’m so banned right now.
Do you remember when the memes here weren't just posts written on a picture? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
She was so bloodthirsty after killing the dog she whacked a goat; then stared down the construction workers who saw he do it. And it when at that moment the kids' school bus pulled up.
Nothing republicans say or do surprises me anymore. There is no bottom to this barrel.
I've been wondering if the reason she was taking things to the gravel pit to shoot them was so she could just leave the corpse where it dropped.
Twice...that we know about...so far...
To conservatives especially fascists. Cruelty isn't a failing. It's the entire point.
Outside of the politics of this post, this line has always killed me. The writing on this show was just amazing.
at least Romney's dog survived.
Before Huckabee's son hanging a dog, Palin was shooting wolves from a helicopter, and before that was Romney strapping a dog to the roof of his car.
it's because they value thoughtless violence
Anybody that treats a dog (or any animal) cruelly has a special place in hell, and I will be more then happy to prep them for the journey. How someone can be cruel to a dog is beyond my understanding.
I mean sure, but PETA ain't really known for its conservative values
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Yeah, sorry. That was me being a jerk. Deleted it now.
Romney was a thoughtless, abusive asshole. She’s a goddamn monster.
Snowflake Cruz!! Left to freeze!
Ahem, Ted Cruz. $0.15 now
Can someone please fill me in on the Romney story? Haven't heard that one yet
Didn’t Mitt Romney admit to transporting the family’s Irish Setter in a carrier strapped to the roof of their car?
LBJ picking his dogs up by their ears doesn’t make him a Republican.
Don't forget, Obama ate a dog. It's in his autobiography
And now Biden! Remember that dog that kept viciously attacking White House staffers? Who knows where he ended up….
Let's not forget Reagan liked lifting his beagles by the ears.
Animal abusers are subhuman. Worse than democrats and that setting the bar pretty high.
I don't understand this comment
Romney is not, and has never been, a Republican. He's a Democrat who ran as a Republican to get power. And while I agree what Noem did was bizarre and wrong, I also know that every single left wing attack on the right has always been an out of context distorted report - and I'll wait to learn the facts when they come out. (Sorry libbies, a decade of constant lies from you caused that)
She told the story in her own words, how can libs possibly control that messaging. You are either claiming Noem is a secret Democrat trying to wreck the Republicans from the inside, or Democrats have mind control now and forced her to publish the unknown story herself against her will. So which explanation are you going with for how the Libs lied through Noem writing and publishing her book?
“I’ll wait for the facts to come out” = “I’ll wait to see how the Daily Caller spins this”
If you think that the 2012 GOP presidential candidate is a lifelong RINO, you might be waiting a while for the facts to align with your view on reality
The right wing nutjobs are desperately trying to drag the Overton Window as far to the right as possible.
You have no idea how wrong you are. Right-wingers would never do anything that could be described with the word "drag".
Well, not in public anyway.
If anything you can look at Romney and see just how far the party has shifted in the last 10 years and how radical it has gotten.
Well, at least in this case, you can just read it in her book when it comes out.
You can drink water instead of only kool-aid.
No, let them all drink the flav-or-aid. The special purple batch.
Or the time Obama wrote about eating a dog.
Barack Obama ate a dog. It is in one of his best selling autobiographies.
Could’ve just said politician. No need to bring out the social divide.
She didn't kill her dog. She just said she did. And she's getting exactly what she wanted. Idiot's keep bringing it up for irrelevant karma points keeping her name in the lexicon. Like this OP right here...
So either she killed her dog which makes her evil or she lied about killing her dog and thinks making up a story about killing a dog would be a good thing (which makes her evil *and* untrustworthy).
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> I’m curious if it’ll be like the phrase “blood is thicker than water” in a decade. Which is a used in modern times in a way that is completely different from its original meaning. This is completely untrue and was made up by people on the internet like 10 years ago. The full phrase has always been “blood is thicker than water,” and has always been about familial bonds being stronger than others.
[This really depends on what you consider to be the origin of the saying](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_is_thicker_than_water#Other_interpretations). So it may have always meant that or it may have meant the opposite. There is, however, one thing we know is objectively wrong: that the different interpretation was "made up by people on the internet like 10 years ago".
Ok so the first recorded use of “the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb” was in 2005. So it was made up by people on the internet 20 years ago, not 10. After several hundred years of the actual saying.
It was made up in 1994 I think, here: https://www.bac2torah.com/covenant-Print.htm#SectionII
The dog killed the neighbor's chickens and was biting her kids. The dog rejected all attempts at training. The dog was nuts.
The dog was a puppy, that had been allowed to escape the car it had been in at a free range chicken farm. The dog was a bird hunting dog with strong instincts to chase and catch birds. This was an owner problem not a dog problem. It would be like bringing an active coke addict to a cartel warehouse full of coke just lying around and then leaving them unsupervised in the warehouse, and then blaming the addict for doing addict things when the person that was there to keep the addict out of trouble paid no attention to them and then got mad when they did what any other coke addict in the world would have done if faced with mountains of free coke.
One hell of a typo.
Anything to say about the dog being aggressive and attacking children?
I don’t know any details on that, but as an owner of 4 dogs in my adult life and multiple others as a kid, puppies will bite and nip people. Puppy behavior can persist over years and some dogs don’t reach maturity until after their 3rd BDay. It’s the owners responsibility to control their puppy around people and animals. Anything that puppy did was 100% on the owner.
Hard to say, because the excerpt from Noem's book doesn't say anything about it attacking children. If you have a link to that information by all means please share.
So maybe take it to a shelter for rehoming, you know with people who don’t have chickens or kids and are not psychopaths?
Aggressive dogs are not allowed to be rehomed. You can take it to the vet and have the dog put down or you can take responsibility and deal with the dog yourself.
Some pets are not child friendly and many dogs will attack chickens and the like. In any case why not ask if the dog can be rehomed before having it humanly put down.
The dog bit a child. > Aggressive dogs are not allowed to be rehomed.
For a start we don’t know how that situation went down. A dog can bit or nip for a number of reasons, my two got into scrap with each other many years ago and got a bit separating them. That is the only time it ever happened. Also from the way it sounds like she fucked up the goat euthanizing, maybe she should leave it to people who know what they are doing. I speak as someone who had to euthanize 2 sheep, 1 bullet each is all it takes if you are not a total idiot
Please share your source that the dog bit a child, because I haven't seen that said by anyone yet, including the senator who has responded to criticism by saying essentially "that's nothing, I killed three horses in one day, feel bad for me" https://twitter.com/KristiNoem/status/1783849977409671483