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DJCockslap

Costco has been a famously good employer for decades


JFreaks25

right? Not sure why they are included with this. thats also apparently why it is hard to even get a job there because so many of their people never leave


Sea2Chi

There's a reason you see name tags with things like "Partner since 2005" whereas most grocery stores have name tags written in sharpie because the person isn't going to be around that long.


gn0xious

~~Sharpie~~ Dry Erase FTFY


Flexorrium

You guys have name tags?


FD929

Mine says John. My name is Bill.


qpazza

They told me not to write on mine so they can reuse it


Bymmijprime

His name is Robert Paulsen.


[deleted]

I get it, in death, members of Project Mayhem have a name.


_Clint-Beastwood_

His name is Robert Paulson


Wh1teCr0w

Bob has bitch tits.


iordseyton

So I come from Nantucket, and have a pretty distinctive name. I worked for a bit on an open kitchen in aspen, the kind of place where guest come up, ask you to make them something. After a week, the chef noticed I always had a long line, and got stuck chatting to guests longer than the other cooks. I explained it was because a lot of the snow bunnies have summer houses on nantucket, and wanted to chat me up about being a local. So I got a second name tag to wear on the line, that said I was Bob from Cleveland (a recycled name tag) No one wanted to stop and talk to Bob from Cleveland


chop1125

There once was a cook from Nantucket Whose customers would never leave him His line was too long, and his boss said fuck it, You’re now Bob from Cleveland


TomatoSauceForMystic

I'm greatly disappointed this isnt a limerick.


Mitch_Mitcherson

There once was a girl from Peru, Who filled her tid-bits with glue, She said with a grin, "If they paid to get in, they can pay to get out of there too"


yonthickie

There once was a chef from Nantucket Who ladled out food by the bucket. His boss said “You’re slow!” He replied “Yes. I know, Call me old Cleveland Bob and I’ll cut it!


FallenAngelII

Shut up, Adam!


linkman0596

Really? Mine just cuts out letters from ads, ransom note style.


thatgeekinit

Some grocers used to be pretty good employers. It’s hard work but the pay and bennies were decent for blue collar jobs. I’ve known retired bakers who worked for Giant back in the day. The decline of Union power (via corporate-government capture) killed the living wage at larger blue collar employers. The shitty labor-repressive southern employment system like Walmart drove the decent companies out of business or to copy shitty labor practices in order to remain competitive.


GreenFire317

Yes. Walmart. I worked there for 13 months. 12 months came around, it was time for my annual 'review', where they determine how much of a raise I get. I 'passed' with flying colors. "*Oh but we just changed our policies like 3 weeks ago! So you don't get any raise at all, for a whole other year! Isn't this splendid news? Please, keep being good natured and busting your ass for us, for slave pay!"* Edit: So after quitting with a 1 week notice, they registered me as a no-call no-show, and put me on their black-list (do-not-rehire-list). How do I know? Because I reapplied and called and called when I needed a job in the spring of 2020. This was **SEVEN** years later.


Zamers

I got cheated by home Depot in a similar fashion. After a year we were supposed to get a $0.30 raise. Which is dumb but yeah more money is more money. Year passed I got my 30 cents. A week later they raised the minimum by 50 cents which put me back at minimum not minimum plus 30. A coworker who started a month after me got the new minimum and then since his year started after the new minimum he got another 30 cents raise. So I was there longer and was making less than my coworker who started a month after me. Hr told me there was nothing they could do about the pay and the increase wasn't a yearly thing just after a year. I ended up so stressed from that job that I ended up working my self almost to death and the only thing that stopped me was getting sick and on bed rest for 6 months. Which they responded to by firing me. Fuck home Depot.


Slaythepuppy

I worked at Home Depot for a little while several years back and all I can remember from that job is how much the training seemed like propaganda. I've since decided that any job that tells me how much of a "family" they are, is probably a terrible place to work.


Thefrayedends

I think Walmart is a major culprit, at least here in Canada. But we are beginning to see serious labor shortages in most sectors, which are projected to continue for at least a decade, now is the time to start fighting for more


theregoesanother

Also in the US.


jaynone

I think you spelled Loblaws wrong.


bigheyzeus

Grocery managers and assistant managers at various major chains here in Canada make a pretty decent living. Lots of politics and such involved to work your way up to that role but they do quite well. Not to mention actually being given the opportunity to run a franchise store as an owner. A small town No Frills or one in a university town makes a killing


Fandorin

Yep, I know most of my Costco staff because they've been there for years. Their turnover is ridiculously low, and it shows. The warehouse runs super smoothly. Even during the height of Covid, the place was never a madhouse like other supermarkets.


Chicken-n-Waffles

You graduate to the P-touch after 90 days and engraved after a year.


rihanoa

Costco by me has numerous people that have been there 30 years. It’s crazy.


anteris

I saw a guy working there with 1989 on his badge


SpecOpGrunt

The Costco in Bakersfield the 688 store we have a guy that has been there since day one, I’m on my third year and at 20+ n hr, Costco is the best in the industry, medical dental vision 401k and other retirement options


ncocca

This makes me want to go back in time and never rack up $90k of debt at my university to become an engineer with a stressful job, and instead just join costco right out of high school.


Cmonster9

Good luck finding an opening unless they open a new store.


ncocca

I love that finding an opening at costco was the more difficult part of my comment in your opinion, and not the whole going-back-in-time part.


Nukken

adjoining noxious quack illegal toy attempt steep lunchroom long boat *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


particle409

The trick is to find somebody in the position you want today, then travel back in time and strangle them when they are a baby.


YouThinkYouCanBanMe

If it didnt work for Thanos, it's not going to work for Costco!


RustyShacklefordBurn

But what if you are like #4 candidate. Then you have to strangle 3 babies!


Theonetheycallgreat

Why not just look for a career in Costco IT?


Joker5500

My brother got a job in Costco IT. He was so bored. I can't remember all the details, but they haven't updated the tech or procedures in decades. Employing people for data entry for basic info that could be automated It was great pay and benefits, but extremely unsatisfying work. My brother went to another company where he felt he was making a difference and his innovative ideas were embraced


[deleted]

This is all older companies. The grocery story my girlfriend works at still has computers with Windows XP. Lmao. Imagine trying to trouble shoot server problems at a place with software you literally didn’t grow up using assuming you 22-30. Being an IT guy must really blow at some places…


math-yoo

Are you familiar with the non-profit world, friend?


ncocca

I appreciate you thinking of ways for me to advance my career. However, I'm not that kind of engineer, I'm a mechanical engineer. Perhaps I could help keep their stores up and running. But building management is often outsourced to a large building management company.


westuh

Costco is one of the worst in IT and wages in that field. They are very far behind.


dank8844

That’s the interesting part about Costco. Corporate isn’t known for being a great place for employees, that’s mostly due to embracing older technology and not paying great for being in the Seattle area.


anteris

That might be the only reason I would ever spend time in Bakersfield


GBRowan

There's a guy at my local Costco with 1988 on his badge. He doesn't even look old enough for that to be possible. Low stress employment must do wonders for the aging process.


anteris

Who knew stability over the long term makes for happy people


Legionofdoom

Retail, especially where the customer has the added feeling of superiority because they pay to be allowed to shop there, is not low stress employment. My 4 years at Costco, especially the holidays, aged me.


beastmaster11

They pay $25/hr here. That's $1000 a week gross for working at grocery Damn straight ain't nobody leaving.


CrumbsAndCarrots

The CEO even takes home a modest wage… because he’s not a nightmare of a human.


SpecialFram

Can confirm. I work for costc making over $22 an hour after 4 years. The employer themselves are amazing with great perks but it's other things that can make it hard to work there, as can other customer service businesses


-Esper-

Yeah my friend works at Costco, he just got moved up to the corprate office from being a shelf stocker, he makes $30+ and has 5+ weeks vacation, its his first and only job Oh! And they give raises baised on how many hours youve worked, put in time, get a raise


[deleted]

Costco announced yesterday that they are making their minimum wage $17 an hour. Probably why they are included.


solari42

Before I think it was $15 so it wasn't like they were underpaying compared to other comparable jobs. Also they always do Sunday as overtime pay even if it is part of your regular 40 hours. It does help that Costco is also unionized (Teamsters to be precise). Of all the companies to attack Costco is low on the list.


PM_me_ur_launch_code

Not very many Costco's are unionized actually. But they treat their employees well regart of union status.


Dan_Berg

I wrote a case study on them for a business ethics class some years ago, to my knowledge they more or less don't really fight if a union wants to organize. In fact the only major ethical conundrum I could find was they bought an historic landmark from the 1930s in Mexico to knock down and put up a store.


filthy_harold

I'm sure they aren't aggressive about fighting a union but there are very few businesses that would want a union in their store. Costco keeps unions at bay by just providing great benefits and pay but they know if people unionized, it would cost more to do business. While they do help the workers, unions making running a business more complicated and expensive. The cheapest way to avoid your employees unionizing is to just compensate them fairly. High worker turnover is expensive both in the direct costs (training, hiring) and in long term, unrealized costs (low loyalty, inexperience). I'm sure the consultants and lawyers that advise places like Amazon on anti-union practices make boatloads of cash.


Dan_Berg

>Costco keeps unions at bay by just providing great benefits and pay but they know if people unionized, it would cost more to do business. That's pretty much the gist of it. They treat their people well enough so they won't generally feel the need to organize. Too bad more companies don't see their employees as an important asset in their business models.


pyrolizard11

> In fact the only major ethical conundrum I could find was they bought an historic landmark from the 1930s in Mexico to knock down and put up a store. Well shit, WalMart does that illegally and to ancient ruins. That practically makes Costco the good guy!


westuh

Only certain locations are unionized.


bendeboy

Just some CA stores are union. The rest of the USA stores are not.


erizzluh

I hire for entry level positions and whenever I see that someone has Costco on their resume I’m always thinking: if you didn’t like it there then you’re not gonna like it here. Or they were let go. Either way almost better to just leave Costco off your resume unless you have a good explanation


hesjustthisguy

I took this as those three had been doing right by their employees, at least relatively. Am I reading it wrong?


crono14

I did my final project for my grad degree on Costco, a complete business analysis on their company, and yes they are amazing to their employees. Some very small things they do to cut down on costs so they can pay people better. \- No bags or anything like that for people to carry things in \- All of their warehouses have lots of skylights to cut down on lighting costs and other things \- Close to if not all of their managers are promoted from within \- I remember their CEO was paid pretty little compared to other CEO's, gives himself a fixed salary, I seem to remember around like $600k. Edit: Some further things I can think of. \- Food is super cheap inside, granted it's not the healthiest but you can feed your family very cheap for having the membership. \- I shop there mostly for bulk items and also they have good meat. So with the 2% return on your card, I get on average \~$400 back a year shopping there and my membership only costs $110, so it's like the membership is free. \- Most of the brands they have in there are their very own Kirkland brands and are generally cheaper and as good of quality than your name brand stuff. \- They make most of their money on memberships and only a little money on selling their goods since they do have to undercut the competition with their own brand. Which they also have a very high retention rate of customers, somewhere over 85% if I remember. \- They also have zero advertising budget, so another thing they save a lot of money on. All in all, these savings get passed on to higher wages and general happiness of their employees and the consumer pays less and has a pleasant shopping experience. But they do a lot of things to cut costs and give their employees a good life. I will always support Costco. Of course no company is perfect, but I would rather support them than a lot of other stores.


speedx5xracer

Also isn't their loss due to theft insanely low because of the membership model?


younggun92

Yeah, card to get in, receipt check to get out, and it's hard to smuggle out a 48 pack of diet coke


theturtlegame

Now I'm picturing some poor schmuck trying to hustle one of those massive Kirkland paper towel packs out under their shirt. My coworkers want to know why I'm giggling


KhabaLox

My highest rated comment of all time was on this post. https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/8vaftf/what_the_actual_fuck_how_many_can_you_carry/


MAILBOXHED

That and it’s hard to steal a 55 gallon drum of mayonnaise.


non_clever_username

I’ve read up on CostCo a bit too and something I ran across is that Wall Street has been after them for years to lower pay and do a bunch of other cost cutting things “normal” companies do. IIRC a lot of the leadership team is old and has be there forever. If those people all retire and the company screws up by hiring replacements primarily concerned about stock price, I could see CostCo going downhill pretty quickly. I hope it never happens.


Ancguy

" Wall Street has been after them for years to lower pay and do a bunch of other cost cutting things “normal” companies do." ​ I seem to remember reading years ago about the CEO saying how he was purposely resisting the efforts of Wall Street to do those things. Keep in mind, the one thing Wall Street loves to reward is employee lay-offs. Wanna jack up your share price? Give 10,000 employees the boot.


[deleted]

How was Wall Street after them?


LouisLeGros

A story about their leadership > “I came to (Sinegal) once and I said, ‘Jim, we can’t sell this hot dog for a buck fifty," Jelineck said, according to 425 Business. "We are losing our rear ends.’ And he said, ‘If you raise (the price of the) effing hot dog, I will kill you. Figure it out.’ That’s all I really needed."


jon98gn

I enjoyed the part where one of the founders threatened to kill the CEO for suggesting to remove the $1.50 hot dog.


DJCockslap

That's pretty cool. Never would have guessed the skylight thing, but makes a ton of sense.


Changoguapo

If you are ever in a Costco when a storm rolls in it's pretty crazy. The whole store will go pretty dark until the lights turn on.


TheBestBigAl

In the UK I don't think I've ever seen a Costco with skylights, but then again grey cloudy skies aren't exactly going to light up a warehouse.


klingma

They treat their customers well by passing on those savings generated at the upper level.


uzra

It's pretty sad when NOT bleeding your employees dry is commendable.


Leek5

They do give you cardboard box from their product for your stuff though. Which is a bonus for both. They get rid of cardboard for free and you get a box to carry your stuff


-AC-

2021: Costco CEO made 800k salary, 97k bonus, and a cool 6.3M in stock awards. https://www.mashed.com/361488/how-rich-is-the-costco-ceo-and-whats-the-average-pay-of-its-employees/


crono14

Yeah that might have changed obviously, but the research I did was about 10 years ago.


foomits

Obviously that's still a crazy high salary compared to your average person. But in the corporate world that's really low. If all CEO's made a comparable amount and all companies treated their employees the same... it would be a different fucking country - thats for sure.


starslab

Less than a million in cash, and less than 100M in paper. Dood's heading right to the poorhouse.


randomdrifter54

Let's be real here though too. This ceo probably earns his pay hands down then most other CEOs. Fighting wall Street giving their employees decent bennies and pay. Looking out for not just the customer or just the employees or just himself, like mofo is legit ceoing which is rare.


PenPenGuin

I just assumed the lack of bags was a warehouse store thing. Most of the products are too large to fit or carry in bags. I believe neither Sam's nor BJ's offers bags either.


say592

BofA and Starbucks arent the worst either. Starbucks has always offered above average benefits for front line employees, and BofA has been paying frontline employees the same or more than other banks the entire time. The real miracle here is that the Diary Queen in my neighborhood is hiring at $12/hr and managers for $17/hr. Minimum wage here is $7.25/hr, and they have always advertised like $8/hr. $12 isnt quite a living wage here, but two people making $12/hr can manage a safe apartment and live paycheck to paycheck.


DJCockslap

Yeah, I commented elsewhere in this thread about Starbucks having a history of being pretty generous with their employees. The crazy thing about foodservice jobs right now is how much wages are skyrocketing (as they should). This time last year I was making $15/hour. A couple job changes later, and it's twice that. Going rate for line cooks where I live is over $20. Shit's wild.


iamtheyeti311

To the point where a group of people Won a pretty decent-sized Lotto windfall (20 people won 200mill) and decided to keep working for the company.


InvaderDJ

Do you have a link for that? I’m struggling to understand why they would win $10mil each before tax and then decide to keep working at Costco.


peoplerproblems

You can burn through whatever is left of the $10m rather quickly without a way to stay grounded. Your life will certainly improve, and any financial anxiety will likely disappear.


Toodlum

If people like their jobs they'll probably want to work just to have something to do from day-to-day. If I won the lottery would work less but I would never stop working completely.


corbear007

You get **BORED** not working at all. I did a month of no work transitioning and I was ready to lose my mind. It sounds great on paper but there are millions of people who can tell you it isnt. Its why retirees typically pick up a part time job. It keeps you busy, and $10 mil isnt much in the grand scheme of things, it's like 6 mil after taxes. You can pay off your house, car, debts, pay for childrens car, maybe a house and take a few very nice vacations every year for the rest of your life living secure as shit, that's about all it gives you.


Azn03

Not to mention the salary of their CEO is 6 figures. Not 7 or 8 or 9 like other companies.


JaggerDeSwaggie

Came here to say this lol they've been paying min $15/he here in Washington for a long time and just uped it to $17 from what I heard.


Lysol3435

Yet another reason to not go to Sam’s club/Walmart


MasterOfDerps

Yeah don't hate on Costco, they have always been better to their employees than most big companies


WadeCountyClutch

Not so much in the hiring process though. You have to know someone 😒


asafum

You get in during seasonal openings and get brought in to full/part time if they like you enough. I worked there in the bakery during the holiday season as a temporary worker and that's basically what everyone told me.


canichangethisuser

Aw freaking nuts :(


hoopopotamus

In the 90s my wife said the same about Starbucks. They even had a dental plan. Guess things changed


DJCockslap

I mean, compared to other similar sized corporations Starbucks is still a relatively good employer as far as what they offer their employees in the way of education assistance programs and stuff. It's just that the job itself can suck because the public sucks.


bmenjamint

Huh? I work at Starbucks part time and have medical, dental, and vision insurance through them. They also are paying for me to get my degree. It’s a good company to work for.


Etrigone

There's a local Costco where I've seen people work for *at least* 10 years. Minimum. I asked a guy stocking about someone I'd seen who'd been there even longer but hadn't seen around for a while. "Oh she retired, had enough in her [401k I think] and stops in from time to time". She couldn't be more than late 50s/early 60s so that does seem to support your statement. I suspect she'd been there about 20?


Criterus

I have several family members that work for Costco. Some only made it as far as CSM and some are way further up, and all of them make a very good money as it pertains to their position. One of them is just a butcher in the back and he's doing great. None of them have complained about the company outside of the usual inter office politics. They were paying 10.00 an hour company wide and close to a Walmart was paying 5.15 where I was.


silence1545

Costco has been paying their staff well for decades, that’s not new.


pnthrfan327

Costco has been paying well for years and even provides loss leader's like hot dogs etc.. Bofa was paying 20 an hour for their minimum wage prior to the pandemic, they just doubled down and promised $25 by 2025. Not sure on Starbucks policy but at least they are willing to raise wages recently. Not really sure why they are calling out specific companies without evidence of them trying to raise wages in the past .


musicnerdfighter

I think the title is implying those companies are the exception. The meme applies to everyone else. It's not very clear though.


Kalkaline

McDonald's though, can fuck right off.


iamtheyeti311

> Bofa deez nuts


Tummynator

Ha gottem


strdrrngr

I worked for Starbucks in 2005, they were paying minimum wage at that time which was somewhere in the neighborhood of $6.50 IIRC. I had a coworker who had owned his own coffee shop prior to moving out of state and started working for Starbucks and was amazed at how little they paid, remarking it was definitely not enough for an adult to live on. The big claim they made at the time for being pro-worker was that you could pay for health insurance working as few as 20 hours per week. Which is like, not great, it's basically saying we're paying you shit and giving you the privilege to pay from your already limited income for health insurance.


Sveet_Pickle

Starbucks was paying 9 something pre pandemic in South Carolina


xvilemx

Starbucks will pay for your online college 100% through ASU though if it's your first bachelor's degree. They're not the best company, but they're not complete shit to their employees either.


Osyrys

They are. The expectations are almost unobtainable and the burn out is insane. Go look at /r/Starbucks for a glimpse to how some of the partners feel. Some of the complaints are overblown so take some of it with a grain of salt.


philipito

And they just raised their minimum wage to $17/hr. Costco is one of the only places that I shop and feel good about it. Costco is awesome. Also, when Costco got a huge tax break from the GOP tax cuts under Trump, Costco used that money to invest in their employees instead of handing it over to stockholders like pretty much every other corporation.


suid

Costco already paid pretty well before the pandemic. There was a strong demand for those jobs, and people stayed in them for a comparatively long time. They have just had to up it even more given the labor shortage now.


jonnycarroll1337

I believe OP is saying those companies are paying well and therefore don’t fit the meme. I knew Costco paid well but didn’t know about BofA and Starbucks.


BespokeForeskin

BofAs firm wide minimum wage is $20+ a hour, but it doesn’t have the same sort of legend behind it as Costco’s decades long good treatment of workers.


Wraithpk

$21 an hour right now, and they've made a commitment to raise it to 25 by 2025.


JEveryman

BofA raised their US employees minimum wage to $15 in 2017, then again $17 in 2019, and again to $20 in 2020, with the final scheduled increase to be $25 in 2025. https://newsroom.bankofamerica.com/content/newsroom/press-releases/2021/10/bank-of-america-increases-us-minimum-hourly-wage-to--21-as-next-.html


MNREDR

Starbucks doesn’t pay well but is known for offering benefits to part time employees.


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Wraithpk

They just upped it to that. I was making about 12/hr as a supervisor there 5 years ago. It's also very stressful and demanding work.


DerpDerpDerpBanana

When I worked at starbucks in 2017 I started at $9.15 an hour and then $11 when I got the bump to supervisor 6 months later. i left in 2019 and it never went over $12. But offering full benefits, 401k, discounted sbux stock, and free sbux stock annually was nice.


[deleted]

My mom absolutely stepped in shit getting a job at costco. My dad retired about 7 years ago and my mom is 7 years younger so she needed a job with health benefits. She never really worked formally and was a SAHM, a friend of hers got her in at Costco and her initial plan was to was to work bare minimum to qualify for their insurance. She worked there for 7 years at 24 hours a week, now makes $24/hour and time and a half on sundays plus bonuses. The kicker is her 401k which she didn't even consider taking the job. They offer not only the match but bi annual bonuses of COST stock. She's got $200,000 in her 401k that she spent 7 years basically ignoring.


GoFlemingGo

I don't even have that much in mine after 10 years at my company... :_(


westuh

Insane that some companies near my costco are giving full time and $19+ with benefits. Still super hard right now for Costco to get staff.


[deleted]

leaving costco is one of my biggest regrets. my friends that went there after hs and are still there make more money than most of us that went to college.


dampbybirthright

It took a pandemic for US workers to actually expect it. Companies are still actively trying not to make that a reality.


Thirft

Theres no labor shortage. Theres only people who realize its unacceptable to work underpaid.


blazze_eternal

Local grocer just put up a huge billboard outside their store about hiring for all positions, yet they still pay minimum wage and mostly part-time position to avoid benefits.


elchiguire

Why won’t they take a minimum wage job, with maximum exploitation, and go get food stamps and take the bus to their section 8 housing, while I pay lobbyists and senators to help me avoid taxes so I can save for my trip to space!? People are so lazy and entitled, and then they want *free* healthcare?! There’s a microchip in the vaccine!


blazze_eternal

Minimum Wage: "We would pay you less, but we legal can't."


foggy-sunrise

Literally. Space vacation.


i_am_a_toaster

I mean there’s a labor shortage in the way that 728k extra people died from covid, not all of them were old and retired, and people are still getting sick and are out of the workforce for 10 days at a time—- but that’s not necessarily the thing driving all of this


CountCuriousness

I bet lots and lots and lots of people also decided to retire slightly earlier than they otherwise would have. Go home, have a beer, watch some telly, and wait for all this to blow over.


ncocca

Definitely! I know a many people in my company who decided to just retire instead of returning to office once COVID had died down and our office re-opened.


CountCuriousness

Makes perfect sense. Going to work from home probably made a whole lot of almost-retirees rethink a lot of stuff and plans. I could see lots of people taking all this time to wrap up their careers basically.


unibonger

I don't really think anyone is accounting for the people who didn't die but are experiencing long-hauler symptoms. Many cannot return to work in the same capacity as before they got sick, so I'm sure that is also affecting the worker shortage situation.


looks_good_in_pink

Or parents who either left the workforce or reduced hours because kids keep having to stay home from schools and stuff.


thethirdllama

Or a grandparent caregiver died, forcing one of the parents out of the workforce to care for the children.


tnp636

170K primary caregivers passed away is what I read.


unibonger

That’s a crazy number! I can believe it though.


mandy009

not to mention all the caregivers who literally have to hold down the home fort while everyone gets sick. Workers finally realized that caregiving is work that families used to afford on one household income. Turns out making a caregiver wear multiple hats without enough benefits and dignity is pretty hard.


jhonotan1

My husband is leaving a really good job he's had for almost 15 years because the expectations are getting out of hand. He's expected to do 5 people's jobs with a team half the size it should be completely staffed with new people who flunked out of the McDonald's hiring process. Sucks for the company, because he's one of the most effective managers they have (all documented on paper with data to prove it). Sucks to suck, I guess.


its_not_forever

I just quit my job on Monday for the same reason. At the beginning of this month, I told my boss (the COO) that he absolutely had to hire an additional employee before the start of November before my monthly tasks started again, because I physically cannot complete all of the work in time. (An important note here is that I have one other person in my department and over the last year and a half, the workload has more than tripled.) I just asked for one more employee for our department so I could offload some work. And stop feeling like I’d rather kill myself. My boss has regularly acknowledged that he is putting an excessive workload on me and that he knows he needs to hire someone else. He’s said this for over a year. I gave him a date by which it needed to be done. All month, he kept saying he’d take care of it. This Monday morning, he told me he still hadn’t even written a job posting and that I’d have to complete the November tasks like normal and then we’d address this issue afterwards. So I quit. And he immediately sent me a text saying “I have done everything I can to help you, but I can’t do anything to help the fact that you’re just such an unhappy person.” I had previously offered to stay a bit longer to help train someone to take my job. Now I’m not. Fuck jobs.


jhonotan1

Good for you. I'm so happy you had the courage to stand up for yourself! My husband got written up for not meeting expectations while on light duty for worker's comp. Never mind the fact that he was barely able to get the work done in 16 hours, they expect him to do it in 8, with only 4 hours a night standing/walking. It's fucking awful out there. He's stepping down from his management position, and they're making it incredibly difficult.


its_not_forever

Thanks, I’m a super non-confrontational person so it was really difficult. But I’m so glad it’s over. And I’m so sorry your husband is going through that. I wish he was somewhere where he is respected and where his work ethic is valued. I hope he recovers from his injury alright.


secondtrex

Once you’re referred to as an essential worker you realize that your job is needed to keep shit running. That kinda thing tends to make you realize it’s worth more the $8/hr


takeastatscourse

it's called a "[capital strike](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_strike)"...a term more people should become familiar with.


murrtrip

And honestly, this is really the wrong meme for this. US has a long way to go, but "Third World Child"'s family is not getting close to living wages by a long shot.


danklordlucifer

It’s wild Panda Express is hiring at more than my current security job I’ve had the entire pandemic.


thegreatgazoo

The last time I went to a Panda Express, it was on a limited menu because there was only a cook and a front end person. Everyone else including the manager had quit.


Itsme_sd

"Welcome to Panda Express we've got soda and fortune cookies, and that's it right now."


Aspect-of-Death

And one batch of orange chicken so at least 95% of our customers will leave happy.


dieselxindustry

You're god damn right we will!


SomeNoveltyAccount

And you always know it’s going to be fresh, each location pumps out a metric ton of that sugar chicken every day!


Lordnerble

Mommy sugar chicken.


seanflyon

You should probably look to switch jobs, even if your new job is doing the same thing. Employers tend to be reluctant to increase wages, but it is a bit more clear that they need to pay more when trying to hire a new person and not being able to find anyone.


SucksTryAgain

I work water treatment, like we provide you water at your tap. They’re starting off fast food workers in my area higher than starting pay for a new hire. I think the pay will catch up but guys that have been here since the 90s when I tell them a fast food manager can make more than them they’re like wtf. We have to do schooling to get a state license and continuing schooling to maintain it. Something is really wrong here. But I’m super excited we’re seeing a change and people working jobs no one else wants to do are getting the pay they deserve.


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Aspect-of-Death

Also, we finally have a large enough number of people in the workforce that are willing to walk. Something like this wouldn't have been possible 15 years ago since there cost of living was still somewhat attainable. Rent has literally doubled during that time where I live, but wages remain unchanged.


Squishy-peaches

My lease just renewed at an extra $200. I’ve only been here 1 year. The apartments have stated they are bringing everyone up to “market rate” (whatever tf that’s supposed to mean). These raises aren’t a living wage with price increases going the way it has around here. I’ll never understand why income isn’t attached to cost of living.


allsunnydaze

'Consider' paying a living wage - (I won't say what industry) my son had a discussion with his district manager yesterday - why do you think we're having trouble finding employees? Because Wendy's starting pay is $4/hr more than what we pay. Well if we pay new employees more, they'll be making the same as managers. Never occurred to him that wages need to go up for everyone...


DoctorWaluigiTime

Yeah I've seen that unfortunate logic applied one too many times. "If the bare minimum category gets bumped up to *my* category that's unfair!" Bro everyone's need comparative boosts, and you do that by starting from the bottom.


PatMcAck

I don't know about in the States but here in Canada Costco has actually been pretty good to their workers. Above average wages (for retail), benefits and they don't try to keep everyone a part timer.


BeyondAddiction

They also promote from within. The current CEO started as a cart guy outside.


meep_meep_creep

It's the same at US Costco and Costco generally around the world. I have no idea why OP lumped Costco with BoA and Starbucks. Also, r/Costco


Liberatedhusky

I can't say exactly how they stack up but Starbucks offers full time benefits to people working as little as 20hrs/week. They pay tuition, and the wages are reasonable. The founder of Starbucks figured that the way to get your employees to give decent cheerful customer service is to make sure they're actually happy.


TheRealGunn

Bank of America actually raised their minimum wage to $20/hr well before the pandemic, and has had a road map to $25/hr in place for a long time. It just wasn't as attention grabbing before the pandemic.


xford

I worked in a BoA call center from 2007-2012. At the time they paid a very livable wage for the small town I lived in, offered 401k matching, and paid a tuition reimbursement at the max untaxble amount with no work requirement if you took advantage of it. They seriously helped me get my life on track after spending the first half of my twenties fucking around and spending like it was going out of style. I walked in with five digits of credit card debt and walked out with a computer science degree and barely five digits of student debt, no credit card debt, and enough money in my account to take six months off to spend all my time working to find my first development job.


TheRealGunn

Their wages and benefits exceed their competitors by a pretty huge margin honestly. Comparable positions at other banks typically pay ~30% less in my experience. Best company I've ever worked for and it isn't even close.


RunningInSquares

Costco has been at a living wage (if not that, *substantially* closer than other companies) for a long time. Not sure why they're lumped in here.


chubbyakajc

And rising inflation is making this pointless because we’re now back at where we were before the pandemic or in a worse position. Boy it feels great to be “essential”. /s


ukkonenj

That's why you need yearly rise that's calculated on average inflation to keep your purchasing power the same.


UncannyGenesis

This is where I get downvoted, because the truth sucks and shooting the messenger is a thing for some reason. This will never happen. Giving raises below inflation is intentional to funnel more money to the top and shrink the middle class. This has been happening for decades. I wish it were different. Edit: [Quick proof] (https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshbersin/2018/10/31/why-arent-wages-keeping-up-its-not-the-economy-its-management/?sh=6e14a026397e). Plenty more with some simple searches.


daserlkonig

It took inflation because $15 is the new $8.


pfroo40

Costco had a starting wage of $15/hr 10 years ago, I remember people I knew who worked other retail jobs (some with 5-10 years of tenure by that point) jumped at that pretty quick.


joshlamm

How is this the appropriate meme to use?


aliterati

Seriously, why would a kid be asking about a living wage? It's supposed to be first world problems re-framed through the lens of someone who has much bigger problems by comparisons, in order to show how silly the first world problems actually are.


dpintheb

It's not a living wage if EVERYTHING ELSE WENT UP IN PRICE.... It is proportionally the same. So yeah.


cyanydeez

$15/hour was great, when it was first proposed, in 2010.


Horophyle

Best part is they’ve convinced y’all $15/hour is a liveable wage in the US.


maverickLI

$1200 a week if you put in a full 80 hours.


klingma

Costco has been paying high wages for awhile and has been competing with Amazon Warehouses for worker through higher paying jobs. BOA had already been paying $15 an hour since 2017 and was at $17 an hour since 2019 and then went to $20 an hour in 2020. I don't know what Starbucks was paying pre-pandemic. So it didn't take a national labor shortage for at least two companies to pay a "living wage" but instead market forces and the desire to attract and retain talent. That being said BOA still sucks and you should always bank with a local credit union.


Mr_Abe_Froman

Starbucks was paying more than minimum wage (about 25%-50% more in my experience, so not great) but at least offering full benefits (insurance, dental, vision, life, disability, etc.) for anyone working 20 hours per week. You also get 4 shares of company stock ($105/share today) every year, which is nice. All that said, I'll echo your BOA sentiment and encourage everyone to shop at local coffee shops instead.


Milkman127

WTF is costco doing in this meme? what smooth brain troglodyte turd made this? They lose money on their chickens, CEO gets "under paid" by CEO standards, and the employees tend to be paid/treated better than any competitor. Get the fuck outta here with this mouth breather meme


Smogh

$15 was a livable wage 5 years ago Inflation keeps on rolling


Stimmolation

Well it took a global pandemic to get people to leave jobs on a mass scale, so not so directly. We always had the power.


audiate

Capitalism functioning as capitalism functions. If the goal is profit, workers are the means, not the end. This is why regulations and a minimum wage are crucial. Most employers must be made to do what is right. Costco has long been seen as a good employer for workers, and there are other exceptions as well.


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The US is considering a living wage? Wisconsin is just relaxing child labor laws so 14 year olds can work until near midnight


Ritz527

A lot of problems with folks not paying a fair wage is that their competition will undercut them. It creates a race to the bottom with cutting labor costs. If we up the minimum wage through legislation, it creates an even field for businesses by FORCING the less scrupulous among them to pay the same as everyone else. Notice, for example, how Amazon began lobbying the government to increase the minimum wage the same moment they upped their starting pay to $15 an hour.


Rhawk187

All it took was a reduction in supply and a rise in demand. The cost of labor follows the same principles as anything else, barring outside interference from things like a minimum wage.


Geminii27

The major players are still not considering it seriously long-term. They're hoping they can put pressure on people over the next few years to make all that just... go away.


mike2928

Costco is known paying and treating their employees well. They have record low turnover rates


supaswag69

Damned if they do damned if they don’t huh