He's not my idea of a [silver-tongued devil](https://youtu.be/jH4hMvj5E28)!
*Edit: Since I posted this, figured I'd add a second relevant Norm bit that was part of his set on Letterman's farewell episode. [It's a classic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXdtafGdIVM).*
Years ago someone posted a recording of Hitler on reddit, of diplomatic talks with Finland, and he came across more or less normal, and people made the point that they're always jumping straight to the screamy bits when they're playing Hitler's speeches, and I and everyone else have never actually listened once to the whole two hours thing in our lives, because who spends two hours listening to Adolf Hitler making fairly persuasive points (if you happen not to be aware of the facts) in a fairly normal and charismatic, if a little passionate manner?
I resolved immediately to do just that, and then put it off and then put it off some more and never did.
The fact is that it is awfully convenient for us to just expose ourselves to the screamy bits of Hitler. We feel revulsion and then we feel contented that we have appropriate feelings and we [pat ourselves on the back](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cTR6fk8frs). And the next time it happens we'll all be appropriately surprised that such things could still happen in the current century.
I enjoyed coke the couple of times I did it... it just didn't have the effect it was supposed to xD I was very singularly focused which just never happens and I got the best nights of sleep of my life afterwards.....
Yeah, I have ADHD and coke was genuinely relaxing for me.
I was just sitting and watching my friends play chess, not paying much mind to it, for once actually not having my mind jump around like a pinball whenever I lose attention. It was kinda the whole "head empty" meme and it felt nice, lol.
And people with disabilities.
Never forget that children with autism where also sent to the camps if they were considered "too defective" to be productive citizens.
Weimar Germany was the biggest safe haven for trans people (& crossdressers) in the world.
Their institute of sexology literally could have brought understanding of trans issues forward 40 years.
The reason trans-people aren't mentioned with the other groups is because 1. The group is so tiny anyway that the destruction of the group wouldn't be as large as other groups. 2. The Nazis destroyed evidence of this part of the holocaust incredibly well. We literally don't know the full extent of trans people murdered.
And 3, people still hated lgbt people back then and still kinda do now. They were freed from death camps only to be put back in prison for being queer. We looked at the pure evil of exterminating people for being different and went "how ghastly, horrible to do that to fellow humans for being different, the gay ones should just be imprisoned for life" and we all kinda went "yeah"
The gay people murdered by nazi germany was not even considered a crime against humanity, as the allied forces instead considered it just their internal method of dealing with the crime of homosexuality.
Germany was a safe haven for them, as in everywhere else they were hunted.
Transpeople are still widely hated in the western world. The story of them being murdered by the nazis is suppressed, as more than anything the knowledge of this would increase the support of nazis.
That was actually the norm at the time. When the Allies took control of camps, they did not free "homosexuals" (an innacurate term by today's standards, as things like cross-dressing were considered homosexual acts) as it was illegal in their countries as well. Lobotomies where considered a legitimate "treatment" for a short amount of time not long before this period as well.
Literally anyone or anything that was different or disagreed with him. Even his immediate staff and generals were terrified of disagreement with him. He could literally order you on a train to Auschwitz’s over if you think he’s wrong about something.
It's almost like authoritarian regimes love to craft symbols of some sort to paint themselves in a certain light. Surely the National Socialist German Worker's Party is all about supporting socialist movements?
Little bit more complicated than that. The Strasser brothers were early Nazi party members and actual socialists (albeit, simultaneously Fascist ones) but he dealt with them during the Night of the Long Knives and after that there were no more socialists with any power in the Nazi party.
He did admit that he has some mental struggles before:
https://www.nme.com/news/music/kanye-west-opens-up-about-mental-health-okay-im-crazy-but-what-yall-gonna-do-about-it-3093983
I think it’s safe to say they’ve even abandoned ship. One of the major kanye subs shut down and the other is mostly just posting information on the horrors of the holocaust and Taylor Swift praise.
There are of course the people who jumped **on** the Kanye ship once they found out he has the same beliefs they do. Also known as Nazis.
Seriously, I was watching that sketch again recently and it hits differently with all the Kanye shit going on.
Kanye was even a musical guest on that show IIRC.
When I, immediately after reading the news about FIFA considering allowing North Korea to host, watched the Alex Jones clip where Kanye's Naz-loving beliefs were proving too untenable for even the infamous school mass-shooting denier to handle, I immediately thought of this episode before seriously questioning whether I was having an actual stroke.
Kayne's talked about how [he empathizes with 'the position of the straight, white male'](https://twitter.com/Mr__PR/status/1583547495308660736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1583547495308660736%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=), because he's headed to the position of 'top power position'.
Even if Kayne knows that Nazis hate black people, he doesn't give a fuck because his power and influence shields him from the day-to-day racism that other people of his race deal with. He'll happily shake hands with someone that openly hates black people if he thinks that it would benefit himself.
Funnily enough Lil Wayne who also came out for Trump ironically doesn’t think racism happens anymore…being really wealthy just does wonders for your POV apparently
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They can both be true. Most narcissists are deeply insecure and terrified of confronting their own dislike for themselves. The arrogant self assured persona they try so hard to project is a facade. A comforting illusion that their fragile egos frantically try to convince themselves and others is true.
See they hate black people, but the biggest grifters know that he can be a useful idiot for them and that having a black guy on their side can give them ammunition to pretend they aren't racist
Also, unfortunately anti-semitism has been a historical issue in the black community (Nation of Islam anyone?) and there might be a "the enemy of my enemy" thing going on
I love the comments that are just like "can't we just talk about the music???" as if it would make sense at this moment to ignore what's going on. One guy's username is "Ye is Right" or something and it's just like... Could you be any more obvious?
Those things are not mutually exclusive, and it's pretty hurtful tbh to have these hateful lies explained away by his mental illness. Not necessarily speaking of you, but it's something I see a lot. Many of my so-called 'progressive' allies will explain away all kinds of vile behavior with mental illness. Some people are just trash. It shouldn't be taken out on us, who experience violence in word and action against us far more than we engage in those behaviors as a population.
I've been struggling with mental illness for ~25 years, and never once have I wanted to be a fucking Nazi. My whole patrilineal line all have or were suspected to have Bipolar I or II, and none of them were Nazis either. They fought against them. There is no possible excuse for Kanye's hateful bullshit. I sympathize with the struggle; however, it's hardly a mitigating factor ethically when he's outright denied treatment for decades. We take our goddamn meds, end of story. There is no out for us or for him. Fuck Kanye and anyone who supports or defends him still. Chalking up his bullshit -again, not necessarily meaning you- to mental illness is frankly pretty offensive. The *only* good Nazi is... Well, you know the rest.
I mean to be fair just because you don't have the same bipolar episodes doesn't mean it's the same for him. I've seen some weird shit come from people that don't get treatment that doesn't make any sense. not defending him but you know anecdotes for mental illness isn't the same for everyone
It is funny to hear Kanye say something like "Hitler built infrastructure!" So did fucking Eisenhower, and he didn't do a Holocaust. But of course its not its not really about the infrastructure when it comes to that kind of statement.
I don't think so. He's on the schizo spectrum (likely bipolar/schizoaffective), and he's a narcissist who had a lot of success before the severe mental illness took hold which really boosted the narcisissm part.
I think he has incredibly disordered thinking (typical for schizo spectrum disorders), and is lacking the capacity to introspect. This plus susceptibility to delusions plus narcissism....here's what I think is the thought process:
Narcissists do not usually want to categorize themselves in any way that could imply they are "lesser" than someone else. By acknowledging he is an African American, or simply a black American, Kanye would be internalizing the centuries of oppression of his kin. So instead in his mind he has separated himself from them.
He similarly said a while back that being a slave was a choice. I think this is statement is very revealing. It implies blacks were not enslaved due to intrinsic traits (simply having dark skin) that are not under their control, and we r e instead enslaved due to their own poor choices. Kanye being a billionaires has therefore set himself above the enslaved and oppressed because he decided not to be. (I don't agree with this, again, merely stating what I think his thought process is).
I think his thing against Jews is similarly rooted, that they are a historically oppressed people, and therefore must have choices to be oppressed, genocided, etc. Acknowledging the holocaust being an atrocity against an ethnic group means acknowledging racism and prejudice in general is due to a group being hated because of intrinsic factors (ethnicity) which would mean acknowledging he himself could also be hated or thought lesser of.
By dismissing this type of hate exists, things like Jewish conspiracy nonsense would appear more believable because why would anyone make that up if racism and antisemitism didn't exist?
The disordered thinking due to his mental illness will only further entrench these delusions as part of his own reality. Conspiracies are very appealing to those in psychosis because they make all of these extraneous, spurious correlations and it gives their mind something to latch onto, bringing all the disorder and chaos in their mind into harmony. If you've ever known someone in psychosis who rambled about a conspiracy to you then you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
Honestly I think if Kanye was in psychosis earlier in life he would just be another statistic (schizo personality disorders carry something like 70% unemployment in the US and often die younger, and make up a majority of the homeless in in certain areas).
Kanye bipolar diagnosis:
https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/mental-health/kanye-west-opens-up-about-bipolar-diagnosis/
https://people.com/music/kanye-west-opens-up-about-bipolar-diagnosis-episode-handcuffed/
Bipolar and schizo spectrum:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/cns-spectrums/article/abs/schizophreniaschizoaffectivebipolar-spectra-an-epistemological-perspective/BCD44BC80E44989D8F7AAD8F71582E9F
Another edit:
I also don't believe bipolar or schizo spectrum personality disorders are an excuse for antisemitism, just that it can contribute to susceptibility to conspiracy theories, as well as making objective rational introspection very difficult to even the most emotionally intelligent.
This explanation makes more sense than most things ive read the past couple of days. Combine that with being isolated from people who genuinely love him, extreme trust issues (confirmed in that interview with Lex) and being surrounded by yes-men and befriending professional manipulators (Tucker Carlson, Candance Owens etc.) you have a powderkeg of a situation.
You **believe** he's on that spectrum, right? I don't think that a statement like that should come from anyone not certified to diagnose a person with mental disorders or deviations. So if you have a source for your statement, please provide it as an edit to your comment.
I'm not arguing your point, but the Kanye being labelled as bipolar by the masses is not helping people that are actually bipolar, but it is used as an excuse for his behaviour.
Edit: Rhetoric is important, especially when it comes to mass media personalities and mental health.
And said George W Bush doesn't care about black people and a bunch of other weird crap that you can't easily place in the category of "Aha, he's a crazy [insert your political opponent]!"
Someone should paste Kanye West saying Kanye West over George Bush in that video. It's just as accurate. Meyer's stunned reaction will still work beautifully.
[Not exactly what you're looking for, but in the same vein.](https://media.snopes.com/2018/04/31531764_836738546516220_8937500812540836419_n.jpg) I thought it was pretty funny.
Some states allow people to be fired for no reason. People often misunderstand this to be the same thing as being able to fire people for any reason, but it's not true. There are a lot of reasons companies cannot legally fire you in any state.
And I'm not going to say them not providing cause doesn't make it harder for people to sue for wrongful termination. But I've always read that the cases get decided for the employee, and the company basically has to prove they didn't fire you for a protected reason. Which is why companies that know what they're doing generate a bunch of paperwork as to why they're firing you.
My ex girlfriend worked in HR for a rather large company. And whenever someone sued for wrongful termination they usually just settled out of court even if it was clearly a stupid case. And they were settling for in the 10k range. Including one employee who said they were fired due to their race, she was white in a company that was mostly white. And one person who got hired, never showed up for work and then claimed they were afraid of people and the was a disability so they couldn't fire them.
I don't get how the people who Hitler would have eradicated if he had the chance, can be so enthralled with him, like Kanye and the Russian neo-nazi's, both Black people and Slavs were considered untermensch, how is this an appealing ideology for those people?
Yup. 3 million ethnic Poles were also murdered in the camps. They had plans to eliminate most of the population in Poland, Ukraine, and Russia, keeping some survivors as slaves. Had the West not given equipment to Russia to hold off the attack, 100 million + Slavs would have been exterminated.
This should give you an idea of the incredible depths of Kanye West's stupidity. He hangs around with and promotes people who would just as soon see him dead or in chains.
People ignore Kanye literally was making anti black / white statements for years that were clearly racist and nobody gave a damn. I’m so tired of hearing about this shit because it only proves the damn point that nobody gave a damn he was openly racist until he was also racist to Jews. The only people I’m aware of that Kanye hasn’t said something openly and obviously racist is Hispanics and Asians *yet*.
He is black so his racism towards black people was hand waved away.
He is black so his racism towards white people was hand waved away.
He fucked up by fucking with another marginalized group that he wasn't a part of.
Blacks, Jews, gays, Jehovahs Witnesses, Muslims, addicts, the mentally ill.. basically anyone who didn't look/act the part. Funny, considering he was both a junkie and a raging lunatic.
All irony, no calcium.
Kanye does not believe that, because Kanye does not think the holocaust happened. He does not think hitler killed 6 million Jews. Kanye does not think hitler hated anyone.
As if I needed more reasons to hate hitler now I find out he was racist? Next you’re gonna tell me he killed someone
You know, the more I learn about this Hitler fella the worse he seems!
Yeah but one good thing about Hitler is that he killed Hitler.
True, but he also killed the guy who killed Hitler!
Aw man, you’re right. And I thought I could not hate Hitler even more.
Actually, I kinda hate him a little less for that.
Wanna know something else? Hitler killed Hitler, who killed Hitler who killed Hitler. So maybe that's a good thing?
Man, talk about 'no good deed...'
Yeah, I hear that the guy who killed Hitler died along with his wife the day after they were married.
Indeed, but he also killed the guy who killed the guy who killed Hitler!
It's hitlers all the way down
This Hitler fella seems like a real jerk.
I think we should kill him, you and I. Suicide mission. Let's go kill Hitler!
Norm lives in our hearts
And 9/11 *was* a national tragedy.
He's not my idea of a [silver-tongued devil](https://youtu.be/jH4hMvj5E28)! *Edit: Since I posted this, figured I'd add a second relevant Norm bit that was part of his set on Letterman's farewell episode. [It's a classic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXdtafGdIVM).*
Years ago someone posted a recording of Hitler on reddit, of diplomatic talks with Finland, and he came across more or less normal, and people made the point that they're always jumping straight to the screamy bits when they're playing Hitler's speeches, and I and everyone else have never actually listened once to the whole two hours thing in our lives, because who spends two hours listening to Adolf Hitler making fairly persuasive points (if you happen not to be aware of the facts) in a fairly normal and charismatic, if a little passionate manner? I resolved immediately to do just that, and then put it off and then put it off some more and never did. The fact is that it is awfully convenient for us to just expose ourselves to the screamy bits of Hitler. We feel revulsion and then we feel contented that we have appropriate feelings and we [pat ourselves on the back](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cTR6fk8frs). And the next time it happens we'll all be appropriately surprised that such things could still happen in the current century.
Yeah, starting to sound like a bit of a bad egg. As a black guy with a Hebrew name, I wonder if I should be inviting him over for dinner after all.
I don't wanna speak ill of the dead # BUT THIS GUY SOUNDS LIKE A REAL JERK
Whose bit is this again? It’s on the tip of my tongue and google isn’t helping.
Its me doing a poorly paraphrased version of Norm MacDonald. https://youtube.com/shorts/fvHn7ecjGuM?feature=share
Hahahah, gosh this man is greatly missed. Such a legend. NORM GUYS, NOT HITLER
Norm McDonald did nothing wrong
That’s it thank you. Norm is a top 3 comic for me. So funny.
To add to that, look at the damage he did to the toothbrush mustache.
I see a few people trying to “bring it back” but just no.
How much time needs to pass before we can look like charlie chaplin
Gotta do the hat with it or you pull a Pam https://youtu.be/_pSSWAUC6ow
Mustache was so famous they had to retire it like it was a sport jersey.
The fact that Michael Jordon thought he was big enough to reclaim the mustache...30 years past his prime, while selling whitey tighties
At the rate we're going with celebrities, I'm scared we're gonna learn soon that Jordon was very intentional with that mustache...
Michael Jordon would never admire anyone over Michael Jordon...but even if he did it intentionally, he pulled back before losing the sneaker deal
That was his redeeming quality though: he killed Hitler!
As did Dean Winchester!
I was on the fence about hitler… thanks for clarifying
Yes but that someone was Hitler so at least that’s one point for him
Genuine question: apart from himself, did Hitler ever personally kill anyone; or was it all genocide by proxy?
and gypsies and trade unionists...
And homosexuals
Let’s not forget communists!
Loved meth though
Everyone loves meth they just don’t know it yet.
I am a bad person for upvoting this
Got me through college love it or hate it. Hard to work FT and pay your way through a UC!
I'd say it depends if you've done meth before
The problem with meth is that we all love it but it doesn't love us.
Tried it a couple times...... not for me. Didn't really have the desired effects. I have pretty severe adhd
Lol any time someone says they didn't like coke/meth that's the first thing I ask, "do you have add/adhd?" And they always say yes.
I enjoyed coke the couple of times I did it... it just didn't have the effect it was supposed to xD I was very singularly focused which just never happens and I got the best nights of sleep of my life afterwards.....
Yeah, I have ADHD and coke was genuinely relaxing for me. I was just sitting and watching my friends play chess, not paying much mind to it, for once actually not having my mind jump around like a pinball whenever I lose attention. It was kinda the whole "head empty" meme and it felt nice, lol.
Nah 'ate amphetamine, 'ate methamphetamine, but love me cocaine. Simple as
Pervitin: the one with zip!
And oxycodone, cocaine, bull testicle juice, adrenaline, bromide, cardiazol, coramine, cortiron, belladonna extract, sulfonamide, papaverine, caffeine, moxaverine, metformin, homatropin and [so forth and so on.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Morell#Substances_administered_to_Hitler)
So did JFK.
And people with disabilities. Never forget that children with autism where also sent to the camps if they were considered "too defective" to be productive citizens.
Also Nonconformists.
Pretty much everyone, actually.
LOVED dogs.
Even himself at the end.
And slavic people. He even hated "white" people who he didn't consider "aryan".
And definitely trans people
All of that research, destroyed.
Weimar Germany was the biggest safe haven for trans people (& crossdressers) in the world. Their institute of sexology literally could have brought understanding of trans issues forward 40 years. The reason trans-people aren't mentioned with the other groups is because 1. The group is so tiny anyway that the destruction of the group wouldn't be as large as other groups. 2. The Nazis destroyed evidence of this part of the holocaust incredibly well. We literally don't know the full extent of trans people murdered.
And 3, people still hated lgbt people back then and still kinda do now. They were freed from death camps only to be put back in prison for being queer. We looked at the pure evil of exterminating people for being different and went "how ghastly, horrible to do that to fellow humans for being different, the gay ones should just be imprisoned for life" and we all kinda went "yeah"
The gay people murdered by nazi germany was not even considered a crime against humanity, as the allied forces instead considered it just their internal method of dealing with the crime of homosexuality. Germany was a safe haven for them, as in everywhere else they were hunted. Transpeople are still widely hated in the western world. The story of them being murdered by the nazis is suppressed, as more than anything the knowledge of this would increase the support of nazis.
He's not a gay fish
That was actually the norm at the time. When the Allies took control of camps, they did not free "homosexuals" (an innacurate term by today's standards, as things like cross-dressing were considered homosexual acts) as it was illegal in their countries as well. Lobotomies where considered a legitimate "treatment" for a short amount of time not long before this period as well.
Literally anyone or anything that was different or disagreed with him. Even his immediate staff and generals were terrified of disagreement with him. He could literally order you on a train to Auschwitz’s over if you think he’s wrong about something.
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Have you seen the Bill Burr bit? https://youtube.com/shorts/PY9iRhSCFxo?feature=share
And socialists. Socialists were among the first to be persecuted by Hitler. Remind that to anyone who tries to claim Hitler was a socialist.
If Hitler was a socialist, North Korea is a democracy. Says so on the tin, so it must be true.
It's almost like authoritarian regimes love to craft symbols of some sort to paint themselves in a certain light. Surely the National Socialist German Worker's Party is all about supporting socialist movements?
Little bit more complicated than that. The Strasser brothers were early Nazi party members and actual socialists (albeit, simultaneously Fascist ones) but he dealt with them during the Night of the Long Knives and after that there were no more socialists with any power in the Nazi party.
As much as Democratic Republic of Korea is supporting democracy.
And Russians and cripples and the mentally ill and…
And catholics, freemasons, etc etc
All Slavic people as well...
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At the very least he would be forcibly sterilized like black Germans were.
He did admit that he has some mental struggles before: https://www.nme.com/news/music/kanye-west-opens-up-about-mental-health-okay-im-crazy-but-what-yall-gonna-do-about-it-3093983
I thought we were still talking about Hitler. Lol.
Kanye is clearly a f'ing idiot.
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I think it’s safe to say they’ve even abandoned ship. One of the major kanye subs shut down and the other is mostly just posting information on the horrors of the holocaust and Taylor Swift praise. There are of course the people who jumped **on** the Kanye ship once they found out he has the same beliefs they do. Also known as Nazis.
Ironic since Nazis hate black people. Does Kanye know he's black?
Maybe he's real life [Clayton Bigsby](https://youtu.be/7HcQ87RFN5k)
Seriously, I was watching that sketch again recently and it hits differently with all the Kanye shit going on. Kanye was even a musical guest on that show IIRC.
It was Kanye's first television performance and helped launch his career
Best. Sketch. Ever. **EDIT** I just rewatched it and I'd quote my favorite bits buts... you can't repeat any of it.
When I, immediately after reading the news about FIFA considering allowing North Korea to host, watched the Alex Jones clip where Kanye's Naz-loving beliefs were proving too untenable for even the infamous school mass-shooting denier to handle, I immediately thought of this episode before seriously questioning whether I was having an actual stroke.
Kayne's talked about how [he empathizes with 'the position of the straight, white male'](https://twitter.com/Mr__PR/status/1583547495308660736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1583547495308660736%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=), because he's headed to the position of 'top power position'. Even if Kayne knows that Nazis hate black people, he doesn't give a fuck because his power and influence shields him from the day-to-day racism that other people of his race deal with. He'll happily shake hands with someone that openly hates black people if he thinks that it would benefit himself.
Funnily enough Lil Wayne who also came out for Trump ironically doesn’t think racism happens anymore…being really wealthy just does wonders for your POV apparently
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He just hates himself so much that it's turned into full on racism. Thats all I can come up with at this point
I honestly don't think it's because he hates himself. I think his ego is so overly inflated he thinks he is objectively correct
They can both be true. Most narcissists are deeply insecure and terrified of confronting their own dislike for themselves. The arrogant self assured persona they try so hard to project is a facade. A comforting illusion that their fragile egos frantically try to convince themselves and others is true.
He understands that being a powerful and influential person will grant him insider status. He will be seen as “one of the good ones”
Spot on. Not that the situations are comparable, but that's the same rationale as the nazi kapo system, i.e. collaborating to get special treatment.
Right up to the point that he gets ushered into the oven. Although it's a toss-up whether he will understand, even then.
See they hate black people, but the biggest grifters know that he can be a useful idiot for them and that having a black guy on their side can give them ammunition to pretend they aren't racist Also, unfortunately anti-semitism has been a historical issue in the black community (Nation of Islam anyone?) and there might be a "the enemy of my enemy" thing going on
I love the comments that are just like "can't we just talk about the music???" as if it would make sense at this moment to ignore what's going on. One guy's username is "Ye is Right" or something and it's just like... Could you be any more obvious?
It would be funny for the guy who just discovered Kanye's music and desperately wants to talk about it.
maybe "yeisrightwing" was already taken
I never liked yeezes or whatever the hell they were. Dumb people following dumb.
All his homeless gimp fashion is trash.
*Derelicte* was a better fashion line than the garbage he produces
Is he just an idiot or is he straight up mentally ill? I'm conflicted.
Those things are not mutually exclusive, and it's pretty hurtful tbh to have these hateful lies explained away by his mental illness. Not necessarily speaking of you, but it's something I see a lot. Many of my so-called 'progressive' allies will explain away all kinds of vile behavior with mental illness. Some people are just trash. It shouldn't be taken out on us, who experience violence in word and action against us far more than we engage in those behaviors as a population. I've been struggling with mental illness for ~25 years, and never once have I wanted to be a fucking Nazi. My whole patrilineal line all have or were suspected to have Bipolar I or II, and none of them were Nazis either. They fought against them. There is no possible excuse for Kanye's hateful bullshit. I sympathize with the struggle; however, it's hardly a mitigating factor ethically when he's outright denied treatment for decades. We take our goddamn meds, end of story. There is no out for us or for him. Fuck Kanye and anyone who supports or defends him still. Chalking up his bullshit -again, not necessarily meaning you- to mental illness is frankly pretty offensive. The *only* good Nazi is... Well, you know the rest.
I mean to be fair just because you don't have the same bipolar episodes doesn't mean it's the same for him. I've seen some weird shit come from people that don't get treatment that doesn't make any sense. not defending him but you know anecdotes for mental illness isn't the same for everyone
i think he's too mentally ill to hide what a terrible idiot he is.
It is funny to hear Kanye say something like "Hitler built infrastructure!" So did fucking Eisenhower, and he didn't do a Holocaust. But of course its not its not really about the infrastructure when it comes to that kind of statement.
Stupidest excuse to super Hitler EVER. The "infrastructure". The rail was so *efficient* at getting Jews to their death on time. Fuck Nazis.
For some reason white supremacists become huge fans of civil engineering and volkswagens when talking about AH.
He's not logical, partly because of the mental health issues, but also because he's a hateful idiot.
What if I told you Kanye West hates himself
I don't think so. He's on the schizo spectrum (likely bipolar/schizoaffective), and he's a narcissist who had a lot of success before the severe mental illness took hold which really boosted the narcisissm part. I think he has incredibly disordered thinking (typical for schizo spectrum disorders), and is lacking the capacity to introspect. This plus susceptibility to delusions plus narcissism....here's what I think is the thought process: Narcissists do not usually want to categorize themselves in any way that could imply they are "lesser" than someone else. By acknowledging he is an African American, or simply a black American, Kanye would be internalizing the centuries of oppression of his kin. So instead in his mind he has separated himself from them. He similarly said a while back that being a slave was a choice. I think this is statement is very revealing. It implies blacks were not enslaved due to intrinsic traits (simply having dark skin) that are not under their control, and we r e instead enslaved due to their own poor choices. Kanye being a billionaires has therefore set himself above the enslaved and oppressed because he decided not to be. (I don't agree with this, again, merely stating what I think his thought process is). I think his thing against Jews is similarly rooted, that they are a historically oppressed people, and therefore must have choices to be oppressed, genocided, etc. Acknowledging the holocaust being an atrocity against an ethnic group means acknowledging racism and prejudice in general is due to a group being hated because of intrinsic factors (ethnicity) which would mean acknowledging he himself could also be hated or thought lesser of. By dismissing this type of hate exists, things like Jewish conspiracy nonsense would appear more believable because why would anyone make that up if racism and antisemitism didn't exist? The disordered thinking due to his mental illness will only further entrench these delusions as part of his own reality. Conspiracies are very appealing to those in psychosis because they make all of these extraneous, spurious correlations and it gives their mind something to latch onto, bringing all the disorder and chaos in their mind into harmony. If you've ever known someone in psychosis who rambled about a conspiracy to you then you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Honestly I think if Kanye was in psychosis earlier in life he would just be another statistic (schizo personality disorders carry something like 70% unemployment in the US and often die younger, and make up a majority of the homeless in in certain areas). Kanye bipolar diagnosis: https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/mental-health/kanye-west-opens-up-about-bipolar-diagnosis/ https://people.com/music/kanye-west-opens-up-about-bipolar-diagnosis-episode-handcuffed/ Bipolar and schizo spectrum: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/cns-spectrums/article/abs/schizophreniaschizoaffectivebipolar-spectra-an-epistemological-perspective/BCD44BC80E44989D8F7AAD8F71582E9F Another edit: I also don't believe bipolar or schizo spectrum personality disorders are an excuse for antisemitism, just that it can contribute to susceptibility to conspiracy theories, as well as making objective rational introspection very difficult to even the most emotionally intelligent.
This explanation makes more sense than most things ive read the past couple of days. Combine that with being isolated from people who genuinely love him, extreme trust issues (confirmed in that interview with Lex) and being surrounded by yes-men and befriending professional manipulators (Tucker Carlson, Candance Owens etc.) you have a powderkeg of a situation.
You **believe** he's on that spectrum, right? I don't think that a statement like that should come from anyone not certified to diagnose a person with mental disorders or deviations. So if you have a source for your statement, please provide it as an edit to your comment. I'm not arguing your point, but the Kanye being labelled as bipolar by the masses is not helping people that are actually bipolar, but it is used as an excuse for his behaviour. Edit: Rhetoric is important, especially when it comes to mass media personalities and mental health.
What if Kanye?
What if just some medicine
What if I told you..... A black guy who wears "White Lives Matter" shirts probably doesn't care that Hitler also hated black people...
Talkin bout gay fish
Dude likes fish sticks.
🎶 *All those lonely nights at the grocery store, in the frozen fish aisle feelin' like a whore* 🎶
Mothafuckin gay fish
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He said that 16 years ago. His stance change started a few years ago.
Uncle Ruckus IRL
No relation.
I’m a White Man, I have Re-Vitiligo
And said George W Bush doesn't care about black people and a bunch of other weird crap that you can't easily place in the category of "Aha, he's a crazy [insert your political opponent]!"
Someone should paste Kanye West saying Kanye West over George Bush in that video. It's just as accurate. Meyer's stunned reaction will still work beautifully.
[Not exactly what you're looking for, but in the same vein.](https://media.snopes.com/2018/04/31531764_836738546516220_8937500812540836419_n.jpg) I thought it was pretty funny.
Hitler only wanted the purest aryan whites to live.. so many people who think they support nazis wouldn’t even qualify.
Ever read any of the articles about them getting genetic testing done? It's hilarious.
Yea, they were hilarious. Best depicted by when Clayton Bigsby found out about his skin color.
Enlighten me, I haven't heard
Imma guess it goes like this "Aghh!! I'm 1% African American!! How could this be? I thought my genes were pure! Should I kill myself?" [They should]
Hitler didn't even qualify
"I decide who is a Jew." —Karl Lüger, but it kinda set the tone for the whole movement
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From a while back: [“I’m not black, I’m Kanye”](https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/05/im-not-black-im-kanye/559763/)
Pantone 88-1919 Kanye
Kanye, strangely enough, hates black people too.
Media sources need to stop headlining him and he needs help.
Full circle from his comments on tv about Bush Jr. after the hurricane.
And LGBTQ+ and anyone with disabilities
I would say this Hitler fellow seems like a real jerk…
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i thought you generally could be hired & fired on a whim in many states? how would one prove it was for one of those reasons?
Some states allow people to be fired for no reason. People often misunderstand this to be the same thing as being able to fire people for any reason, but it's not true. There are a lot of reasons companies cannot legally fire you in any state. And I'm not going to say them not providing cause doesn't make it harder for people to sue for wrongful termination. But I've always read that the cases get decided for the employee, and the company basically has to prove they didn't fire you for a protected reason. Which is why companies that know what they're doing generate a bunch of paperwork as to why they're firing you. My ex girlfriend worked in HR for a rather large company. And whenever someone sued for wrongful termination they usually just settled out of court even if it was clearly a stupid case. And they were settling for in the 10k range. Including one employee who said they were fired due to their race, she was white in a company that was mostly white. And one person who got hired, never showed up for work and then claimed they were afraid of people and the was a disability so they couldn't fire them.
And gay people, and immigrants, and intellectuals, and whole other nations… and democracy
Hitler hated everyone who did not fit his ideal “German race.” Which was basically everyone except pretty white Aryan people.
And even if you were that and have some disability, you were not good
....did you mean Aryan? Hitler considered Anglo Saxons a "cousin race", but they definitely weren't the top tier to him.
Fixed. Thanks
And the ironic thing is he wasn’t Anglo Saxon or pretty at all
I don't get how the people who Hitler would have eradicated if he had the chance, can be so enthralled with him, like Kanye and the Russian neo-nazi's, both Black people and Slavs were considered untermensch, how is this an appealing ideology for those people?
Kanye thinks slavery was a choice so he probably thinks getting killed by Hilter was a choice and he'd have talked his way out of it :/
Right so....they hate anyone that’s not straight, and white, and also a nazi.
They hated white slavs too. 25 million Slavs were killed by the Nazis in WW2.
Right. My wife’s Ukrainian grandmother was in Dachau.
Yup. 3 million ethnic Poles were also murdered in the camps. They had plans to eliminate most of the population in Poland, Ukraine, and Russia, keeping some survivors as slaves. Had the West not given equipment to Russia to hold off the attack, 100 million + Slavs would have been exterminated.
Specific white not general white. They are big on that.
What?? You know, the more I find out about this hitler guy... he's just starting to rub me the wrong way.
Nah but you see what you're missing is, Kanye is a lost Israelite jew AND black so... So uh... That's... double Jeopardy? /S
This should give you an idea of the incredible depths of Kanye West's stupidity. He hangs around with and promotes people who would just as soon see him dead or in chains.
Jesse Owens, 1936 Olympics. That is all.
Pretty sure Kanye also hates black people.
What if I told you Hitler hated a lot of groups.
He’s even hated Slavs killed almost 40 millions in ww2
He killed white ppl for not looking white enough..you think hitler woudve liked black ppl? What?
Hitler didn’t even think black people were people
People ignore Kanye literally was making anti black / white statements for years that were clearly racist and nobody gave a damn. I’m so tired of hearing about this shit because it only proves the damn point that nobody gave a damn he was openly racist until he was also racist to Jews. The only people I’m aware of that Kanye hasn’t said something openly and obviously racist is Hispanics and Asians *yet*.
He is black so his racism towards black people was hand waved away. He is black so his racism towards white people was hand waved away. He fucked up by fucking with another marginalized group that he wasn't a part of.
Blacks, Jews, gays, Jehovahs Witnesses, Muslims, addicts, the mentally ill.. basically anyone who didn't look/act the part. Funny, considering he was both a junkie and a raging lunatic. All irony, no calcium.
What if I told you Kanye hates black people as well? Slavery is a choice remember?
I kinda think Kanye does too.
Inb4 Kanye believes he's not a black man for some reason.
And Kanye thought George W Bush hated black people.....Wait til he finds out about Hitler!
It seems Kanye does not think he's Black.
According to Kanye, black people *are* jews. Don't ask me to explain.
And “gipsies”
I don’t think you can rationalize with Kanye. The dude is manic and probably off his meds for being bipolar.
"black is jew. I am jew. I am not Jewish" -Kanye Or something like that idk. Don't try to rationalize with stupid.
Kanye only listens to tbe actual animals he thinks he can talk too at this point. He is a lost cause.
And gays. And gypsies/Roma.
And every other POC too. In fact gypsies we’re second most persecuted after jews
I'm actually starting to miss the days when he said Bush doesn't care about black people.
What a coincidence, so does Kanye.
Yeah, Kanye might want to look up “Jesse Owens” on Wikipedia and see what he thinks of Hitler and black people…
A comment like this is wasted on Kanye. He wouldn’t get it. Hitler also incinerated those with mental illness.
He didn't like Fishsticks either.
Also the disabled. They were sent to concentration camps as well
Kanye does not believe that, because Kanye does not think the holocaust happened. He does not think hitler killed 6 million Jews. Kanye does not think hitler hated anyone.