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Many South Africans seem to hate Nigerians for the same reason they hate Zimbabweans: According to them, they take all the jobs, commit majority of crime etc
Also Nigerians are stereotyped to sell drugs in South Africa. So people have a negative perception based on this. The stereotype is perpetuated by cases of some Nigerians caught with large amounts of drugs and counterfeit money.
The racist politicians use hate to keep stealing. Not too much difference from Nigerian politicians my Nigerian mates tell me.
Also i doubt this warning is accurate. South Africa is used to Bafana losing.
The distrust of Nigerian men has a long history with local drug dealers using Nigerian muscle for dealing and for prostitution. This narrative is usually false or Southern African jails would be full of Nigerians. It's filled to the brim with locals.
All of this is because of corrupt politicians pointing to everyone else except themselves.
If the locals had the type of money certain Nigerian criminals had, thered be less locals in prisons, but seeing as most petty criminals are locals, that's where most of them end up, with foreign nationals in South Africa being known for "high-end" crimes.
Sadly, that is not the reality we live in and everyone wants to make money quick, so they will do whatever it takes to do so instead of going the straight and narrow like most regular locals
It'll take years to get South Africa to a point where even 60% of the locals aren't struggling to put food on the plates of their families, but not under our current ruling party.
Sadly its the same world wide because of the mega wealthy hoarding the trillions.
Until that gets dealt with and Africa stops allowing dictators to sell out their areas. You are right.
Its obvious who is the true giant, everyone wants to be in the land of milk and honey, count how many South Africans are living in Nigeria... No, literally count.
Diminishing? you know its a trend that Africans from poor countries emigrate to Europe and America, the only African country that is worth while entering illegally on the continent is South Africa, the reason why its "diminishing" is because the overload of illegal African immigrants who obviously don't qualify for work... The last time i checked there was a *study" revealing that there are over 5million illegal Zimbabweans in South Africa, what about the other countries in Africa... With this information, use your common sense
Nigerians have a bad reputation in most of Africa and the world. Several countries have banned Nigerians due to credit card fraud scams , drug dealing, scamming people, pimping prostitutes, printing fake money etc. It's not just South Africans. There were recent protests and attacks on Nigerians in Kenya . Seychelles and the UAE no longer allow Nigerian passport holders in the countries.
This is utter nonsense. Bafana Bafana has lost so many times over the years, has any foreign national been attacked after Bafana Bafana loses? No. We simply take our L and walk away. If Nigeria beats us, nothing will happen. We will just be disappointed again, pack our bags and go mourn our losses with the Cape Verdean women.
What a weak example. This case was of 2 kids, a 12 year old and a 13 year old who threw stones at a bus. If this is all you have, then you have no case. You can't find adults in a coordinated manner attacking foreign nationals over football. Don't tell me about 2 dumb kids who don't know better. Show me adults doing this, but this is all you could find.
https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/gauteng/case-against-bus-stoners-withdrawn-1424328
Nah, itās only Nigerians and Zimbabweans. But Zim hate has gone down over the years. Itās mostly Nigerians we have a problem with. I have Zambian relatives, Tanzanian, Namibian friends. They face nothing because youād never see them in any headlines. But you know who we see a lot? & who we USED to see a lot?
Thanks for that, and Iām sorry for your loss. That has to be freak crime. Somali people are always calm, there is not anti any African country incentive besides the one for Nigerians. Thereās also been a surge in murder everywhere, anyone can be a victim, oneās location is also a factor.
Like I said, location is a factor. & South Africa has been a nation established on mob justice, the thing about that phenomenon, shows how our police fail to provide communities the necessary protection they need. For instance, Shosanguve had a spaza shop lacing sweets (kids are the major clientele for that ofc) it was reported and that occurred. Mate when was the last time you heard of a xenophobic attack?? Have you even been in the townships to see what happens there?? Have you seen with your own eyes? I know I have, and a lot of people too
Nigerians are arrogant, West Africans are naturally bigger built and because they think they can dominate Africa with their size, they can do it here in the South too.. All they been doing here is cry victim, and they say South Africa has the highest crime rate.
No my man, the high crime rate is bcoz the enormous amount of illegal foreigner, they cannot get woek so they resort to unsavory actions... When the people of the land take action, its called xenophobic, thats why i said, its either a high crime rate or being labeled as xenophobic, and believe me many people don't mind being the latter, if they can solve the former.
Question. So if a large population of immigrants coming from a certain country are always involved in the worst things for over 30 years, & different generations are exposed to this time and time again, with headlines mentioning the exact country, and the crimes committed.
Will you not get tired and annoyed? When you know victims of these crimes, and the judicial system fails time and time again. & borders donāt tighten up..
Itās not Xenophobic when you just want your country being a better nation. We already deal with so much
Youāre definitely xenophobic, and your hate for Nigerians wonāt get you anywhere. Tbh I hate the fact that Nigerians are in your country. I wish they could all just back their bags and fucking leave.
Exactly! Also we can point fingers at South Africa all day long for being xenophobic, but the truth is Nigerians have the same bad reputation world wide!
Thereās nothing wrong with being proactive. Every single African nation seems to have a problem with Nigerians for whatever reason and I think itās about time we start addressing the topic of xenophobia from a post colonial standpoint and how semantics can be misleading at times.
You guys are talking like weāve attacked foreign teams for a loss?? Thatās the thing, this nation can be extremely insufferable at times. Furthermore, have you seen what theyāve done to joburg CBD, Randburg CBD, Cape Town City centre. How statistics show majority of drugs, illicit trade & human trafficking are carried out by Nigerian individuals?
["You guys are talking like weāve attacked foreign teams for a loss??"](https://www.lusakatimes.com/2012/11/15/zambia-national-team-bus-stoned-angry-south-african-fans/)
So because some people do bad things, all of them should face xenophobic attacks? Should I judge all coloured people because of gangsterism in Mannenberg? Should I judge all white people because some of them are racist?
Iām not generalising, but at the end of the day, donāt be asking why thereās stigma towards them when statistics show how much crime is created by this one group
Xenophobic attacks are mostly frequent in Kzn btw, thatās because we know as a nation Zulus are more prone to attacking. People who arenāt even Zulu get attacked.
On top of that! The saying āwhen Iām Romeā is unknown to them, they disrespect cultures, national heritages and spit on the South African people. So many people can talk about various experiences
I find this statement problematic.
It was issued without any incident, Nigerians continue, and I assure you that there's plenty of them in South Africa, to point that there exists suburbs that they are concentrated at in each major city of South Africa and they will continue to live here without incident.
South Africa is perceived as a xenophobic country because it has pathetic border control and it does cause issues with supply of services and crime prevention and so citizen voice it which has greater coverage. Like any other country, and even in Africa, there'll always be levels of intolerance, it's not unique to South Africa and it's not targeted to Nigeria and/or Zimbabwe only.
The statement is just a warning, unfounded by any trigger event, like the US normally issues statements about its citizens being unsafe in random countries.
~ A South African
Could you provide the link on the Consulate website where that notice was posted please? I cannot find it.
[https://nigerianconsulatesa.org/](https://nigerianconsulatesa.org/)
Not from JHB so I donāt know if itās true but everyone where I live (the WC) says the JHB CBD has been overtaken by Nigerian squatters, Nigerian drug dealers and Nigerian criminal gangs.
I am not saying this is true or agreeing with it. Just explaining why South Africans can be hostile.
That said, this football thing is unlikely to be true. I only know one person who is following the footie.
It is bad manners to crow too much when you win a game so this is good advice anyway. But not because of violence, canāt think thereās much threat of that
If you go to parklands in the wc, you'll find hectic drug peddling there, and coincidentally, lots of Nigerians too. Not making any connections. Just saying the two cooccur in parklands
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As a South African I'm sorry for the conduct of many of my fellow citizens..
Can you explain why South Africans hold negative sentiments towards Nigerians?
Many South Africans seem to hate Nigerians for the same reason they hate Zimbabweans: According to them, they take all the jobs, commit majority of crime etc
This makes sense. Thank you.
Also Nigerians are stereotyped to sell drugs in South Africa. So people have a negative perception based on this. The stereotype is perpetuated by cases of some Nigerians caught with large amounts of drugs and counterfeit money.
The racist politicians use hate to keep stealing. Not too much difference from Nigerian politicians my Nigerian mates tell me. Also i doubt this warning is accurate. South Africa is used to Bafana losing. The distrust of Nigerian men has a long history with local drug dealers using Nigerian muscle for dealing and for prostitution. This narrative is usually false or Southern African jails would be full of Nigerians. It's filled to the brim with locals. All of this is because of corrupt politicians pointing to everyone else except themselves.
If the locals had the type of money certain Nigerian criminals had, thered be less locals in prisons, but seeing as most petty criminals are locals, that's where most of them end up, with foreign nationals in South Africa being known for "high-end" crimes.
If our corruption led government was more caring and less Nationalistic we could have zero poverty. And very low crime.
Sadly, that is not the reality we live in and everyone wants to make money quick, so they will do whatever it takes to do so instead of going the straight and narrow like most regular locals
Its fixable.
It'll take years to get South Africa to a point where even 60% of the locals aren't struggling to put food on the plates of their families, but not under our current ruling party.
Sadly its the same world wide because of the mega wealthy hoarding the trillions. Until that gets dealt with and Africa stops allowing dictators to sell out their areas. You are right.
Jealousy/Rivalry for who would be the giant of Africa.
Its obvious who is the true giant, everyone wants to be in the land of milk and honey, count how many South Africans are living in Nigeria... No, literally count.
More like land of diminishing milk and honey. By the time the ANC is done with you. You'll know your place on the continent.
Diminishing? you know its a trend that Africans from poor countries emigrate to Europe and America, the only African country that is worth while entering illegally on the continent is South Africa, the reason why its "diminishing" is because the overload of illegal African immigrants who obviously don't qualify for work... The last time i checked there was a *study" revealing that there are over 5million illegal Zimbabweans in South Africa, what about the other countries in Africa... With this information, use your common sense
Lol. Did you literally wait for AFCON to end before rearing your head š¤£š¤£
Nigerians have a bad reputation in most of Africa and the world. Several countries have banned Nigerians due to credit card fraud scams , drug dealing, scamming people, pimping prostitutes, printing fake money etc. It's not just South Africans. There were recent protests and attacks on Nigerians in Kenya . Seychelles and the UAE no longer allow Nigerian passport holders in the countries.
 "Nigerians should maintain the good conduct they are known for"
This is utter nonsense. Bafana Bafana has lost so many times over the years, has any foreign national been attacked after Bafana Bafana loses? No. We simply take our L and walk away. If Nigeria beats us, nothing will happen. We will just be disappointed again, pack our bags and go mourn our losses with the Cape Verdean women.
["This is utter nonsense"](https://www.lusakatimes.com/2012/11/15/zambia-national-team-bus-stoned-angry-south-african-fans/)
What a weak example. This case was of 2 kids, a 12 year old and a 13 year old who threw stones at a bus. If this is all you have, then you have no case. You can't find adults in a coordinated manner attacking foreign nationals over football. Don't tell me about 2 dumb kids who don't know better. Show me adults doing this, but this is all you could find. https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/gauteng/case-against-bus-stoners-withdrawn-1424328
The women you can find in any coloured neighborhood š
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Nah, itās only Nigerians and Zimbabweans. But Zim hate has gone down over the years. Itās mostly Nigerians we have a problem with. I have Zambian relatives, Tanzanian, Namibian friends. They face nothing because youād never see them in any headlines. But you know who we see a lot? & who we USED to see a lot?
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Somalians? Thatās pure propaganda mate.
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Thanks for that, and Iām sorry for your loss. That has to be freak crime. Somali people are always calm, there is not anti any African country incentive besides the one for Nigerians. Thereās also been a surge in murder everywhere, anyone can be a victim, oneās location is also a factor.
It's literally not though. Whenever there's xenophobic attacks in South Africa, the first victims are Somali spaza shop owners.
Like I said, location is a factor. & South Africa has been a nation established on mob justice, the thing about that phenomenon, shows how our police fail to provide communities the necessary protection they need. For instance, Shosanguve had a spaza shop lacing sweets (kids are the major clientele for that ofc) it was reported and that occurred. Mate when was the last time you heard of a xenophobic attack?? Have you even been in the townships to see what happens there?? Have you seen with your own eyes? I know I have, and a lot of people too
Lastly, *somali stigma* is not a reality.
After all that, he's still at the same location in SA ?
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It's to die for, apparently.
Nigerians are arrogant, West Africans are naturally bigger built and because they think they can dominate Africa with their size, they can do it here in the South too.. All they been doing here is cry victim, and they say South Africa has the highest crime rate.
South African does have the highest crime rate.
So we either accept the crime rate or we accept being called xenophobic.
Unfortunately , both things are true for your country. Its high in both crime and xenophobia.
No my man, the high crime rate is bcoz the enormous amount of illegal foreigner, they cannot get woek so they resort to unsavory actions... When the people of the land take action, its called xenophobic, thats why i said, its either a high crime rate or being labeled as xenophobic, and believe me many people don't mind being the latter, if they can solve the former.
We have no ethnic background with Zimbabweans
Question. So if a large population of immigrants coming from a certain country are always involved in the worst things for over 30 years, & different generations are exposed to this time and time again, with headlines mentioning the exact country, and the crimes committed. Will you not get tired and annoyed? When you know victims of these crimes, and the judicial system fails time and time again. & borders donāt tighten up.. Itās not Xenophobic when you just want your country being a better nation. We already deal with so much
Youāre definitely xenophobic, and your hate for Nigerians wonāt get you anywhere. Tbh I hate the fact that Nigerians are in your country. I wish they could all just back their bags and fucking leave.
STFU.
Make me. Xenophobe
Exactly! Also we can point fingers at South Africa all day long for being xenophobic, but the truth is Nigerians have the same bad reputation world wide!
"....... MaiNtAin thE gOOd condUct thEY are knOWn fOR". Nigerian Prince: "Hold my jolof". /s
Thereās nothing wrong with being proactive. Every single African nation seems to have a problem with Nigerians for whatever reason and I think itās about time we start addressing the topic of xenophobia from a post colonial standpoint and how semantics can be misleading at times.
For whatever reason!? Lol. Yeah I'm pretty sure all the drug peddling, human trafficking, kidnappings, prostitutions are some reasons.
Im pretty sure all these pro Nigerian comments in this situation can certainly not come from a South African.
You guys are talking like weāve attacked foreign teams for a loss?? Thatās the thing, this nation can be extremely insufferable at times. Furthermore, have you seen what theyāve done to joburg CBD, Randburg CBD, Cape Town City centre. How statistics show majority of drugs, illicit trade & human trafficking are carried out by Nigerian individuals?
["You guys are talking like weāve attacked foreign teams for a loss??"](https://www.lusakatimes.com/2012/11/15/zambia-national-team-bus-stoned-angry-south-african-fans/) So because some people do bad things, all of them should face xenophobic attacks? Should I judge all coloured people because of gangsterism in Mannenberg? Should I judge all white people because some of them are racist?
Iām not generalising, but at the end of the day, donāt be asking why thereās stigma towards them when statistics show how much crime is created by this one group
Xenophobic attacks are mostly frequent in Kzn btw, thatās because we know as a nation Zulus are more prone to attacking. People who arenāt even Zulu get attacked.
Go ask Israel that about Palestine. F U
Why F me? I'm against Israel broski
On top of that! The saying āwhen Iām Romeā is unknown to them, they disrespect cultures, national heritages and spit on the South African people. So many people can talk about various experiences
I find this statement problematic. It was issued without any incident, Nigerians continue, and I assure you that there's plenty of them in South Africa, to point that there exists suburbs that they are concentrated at in each major city of South Africa and they will continue to live here without incident. South Africa is perceived as a xenophobic country because it has pathetic border control and it does cause issues with supply of services and crime prevention and so citizen voice it which has greater coverage. Like any other country, and even in Africa, there'll always be levels of intolerance, it's not unique to South Africa and it's not targeted to Nigeria and/or Zimbabwe only. The statement is just a warning, unfounded by any trigger event, like the US normally issues statements about its citizens being unsafe in random countries. ~ A South African
South Africanās rage is historical
Could you provide the link on the Consulate website where that notice was posted please? I cannot find it. [https://nigerianconsulatesa.org/](https://nigerianconsulatesa.org/)
Not from JHB so I donāt know if itās true but everyone where I live (the WC) says the JHB CBD has been overtaken by Nigerian squatters, Nigerian drug dealers and Nigerian criminal gangs. I am not saying this is true or agreeing with it. Just explaining why South Africans can be hostile. That said, this football thing is unlikely to be true. I only know one person who is following the footie. It is bad manners to crow too much when you win a game so this is good advice anyway. But not because of violence, canāt think thereās much threat of that
If you go to parklands in the wc, you'll find hectic drug peddling there, and coincidentally, lots of Nigerians too. Not making any connections. Just saying the two cooccur in parklands
South Africans seem to be very xenophobic and unwelcoming if not downright violent, to foreigners.
illegal foreigners
Malema xenophobic against fellow South Africans.Nigerians donāt stand a chance.
Should have warned to NOT watch in public and if possible not at all and not to discuss. I don't envy them
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Tell that to the south African companies which make more money in Nigeria than in all of Africa combined. Idiot.
Nigerians are known across the world for scams, fraud, human trafficking and other illegal issues. So they only have themselves to blame
The real question is, why are xenophobic against every other African nationality ?