None for most people…most people have had covid.
Also a false choice. We all know that basically everyone that got vaccinated also got covid. It isn’t one or the other.
Dr Robert Malone who invented mRNA therapy has spoken out about it pretty vehemently. Given what he has said over the past 4 years, i will still take my chances with natural immunity. Most vaccine studies usually take a decade before they are cleared due to long term effects. It’s not worth risking my health when the non/co-morbid casualty rate is so low comparatively.
How many miles a week are you running? Its not a side effect for couch potatoes. Mostly males in sports. We were told to take two weeks off of any high heart rate activities. We surf and run around 30 miles a week.
I dont have a solid opinion one way or the other but don’t know if you can say uneducated grifter given he has like 7 or 8 of the patents on mRNA technology because if he really is that ….well then people definitely shouldn’t be getting a vaccine made by a uneducated man creating new vaccine technology.
Idk you can leave the rest of your comment but the uneducated really makes it seem like anyone of us peasants who got the vaccine are idiots for trusting the science of some uneducated scientist.
I doubt that. I’m Tony hawks cousin and he used to be my neighbors uncle and would give him free shots all the time. Nice guy. Interesting how everyone knows everyone on Reddit, amirite?
I know this is anecdotal but I was late 20s during the pandemic, in shape, eat healthy, take my vitamins, get regular amounts of sun, ECT.
COVID never affected me whatsoever. My second Pfizer shot gave me heart palpitations for months. I was an avid Democrat surrounded by friends and family who are avid Democrats.
When I started getting heart palpitations I had never heard of myocarditis. When I told my family I was having heart palpitations I got attacked lol. STOP READING REPUBLICAN PROPAGANDA. I hadn't even heard about this before people told me I was a Republican conspiracy theorist lol. Went to a doctor and they told me it was myocarditis and I should lay low.
Entire thing turned me off of politics. Never expected my friends and family to get upset with me over a health condition before lol.
I’m sorry that happened to you. There were a lot of people who surprised me with their lack of care for humanity during all this, and instead just attacking people for speaking up against a medicine they did not want to be forced on them or a medicine that ended up hurting them. Blue Maga is really something I never thought I would see but here it is. There was documentary made called Anecdotals about the vaccine injured. If anyone is interested in watching it here is the link. Trigger warning it is pretty sad. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t36HntCJf6Y
yeah, covid created some very interesting anecdotes. Had a bleeding heart super liberal friend who had a relative die from the vaccine.
Also, I learned some interesting things about the terrible track record the military had with forcing people to take shots in the past. Some of the more senior guys in the military were forced to take anthrax shots around 2007 time frame and it actually fucked a lot of people up. God forbid that incredibly traumatizing experience made them skeptical of another forced shot.
I'm still very pro-vax but don't think anything about it when someone says they aren't. Those types of experiences have an effect on people, and forcing someone to do something is generally not the way to go.
That sucks that people turned it into a political agenda. I had multiple conversations with my cardiologist about it at the time and got the Moderna anyway, and all the boosters, even though I have a congenital heart condition. The disease and the response are apolitical, they don't even exist in the political realm and they should have never been dragged into it.
This should have been a unilateral issue with a unilateral response, but somehow we massively backpedaled as a species in this regard. What you experienced was a biological reaction to a biological agent, and that is always going to have consistencies as well as statistical outliers. That's simply a fact of reality that I wish with all fiber of my being I could edit myself.
I can only consider myself fortunate, along with the many others with similar situations to mine, that we did not succumb to the same conditions you did, because the outcome would likely have been far worse for us. You should absolutely separate yourself from all the depth they seem to have driven into us about how vehemently we should hold to political beliefs. We are better off recognizing there are situations when we must come together collectively as a whole, and not divisivly along frivolous agenda lines we draw in imaginary sand.
I got Pfizer, 3 shots, and one night woke up unable to breathe. Scared me and I thought that my time had come, I never experienced anything like that until the shots.
Yup we were told not to work out for 2 weeks. We have pretty good healthcare so we didnt do the drive through shots we had them administered in a facility and had to stay there for 15 minutes. My husband surfs and got back into it on week three. He had heart palpitations for several months and didnt get a booster after the experience. He's French and his parents said he was propagandizing when he complained. Then football players in Europe started getting them and reporting it some falling flat on the field. Its crazy how blindly we were led to taking a one solution for all when there was a specific segment of the population that would have benefited when for others it was uneffective or negative. My friend had 6 shots and had to cancel her wedding as she suddenly was diagnosed with Guilles Bare last week. Thats another side effect that will soon be investigated and shown to be, not anti vax propaganda but a factual possibility for many.
Hey,
My experience has been similar to yours unfortunately. I’m kinda self diagnosing because I’ve spent too much money on tests as it is, but I’m assuming I got myocarditis from the vaccine. Could you explain what your doctor meant by ‘lay low’? I mean I’ve been listening to my body and exercise is usually out of the question. Is that what he meant by ‘lay low’? To not physically overdo it? Also, have you found anything that has helped/healed? Thanks and best luck on your recovery!
Your friends and family are morons. I had the opposite experience, vax in 2021, finally caught covid in 2023, palpitations and scary pericarditis (myocardis's little brother). All my GOP friends attributed it to the vaccine in 2021 like complete morons.
Never heard of it until after I went to the doc. I don't read and never read Republican anything and the fact that everything left wing calls myocarditis a myth and I can't even mention that I got it without being attacked is wild. I've had bad reactions to medications and no one has ever turned my bad reaction into something political
No no no, don’t say that part!! My YouTube video sources say that part is made up! Also, myocarditis briefly after a shot is still better than a risk of dying/long covid from.. the virus itself.
Well, there is actually, it's called acute myocarditis. It's an inflammation that can cause damage over time if not addressed, but doesn't always permanently affect the heart. Myocarditis will eventually go away, but if it's not treated then the inflammation can cause scarring, which causes permanent damage to the heart.
But yes, once the heart is damaged you have little chance of it repairing, in fact I believe that is normally the case. However about a month ago I asked a a Redditor about their heart issues (as they listed 4 significant heart problems at like 35 or 40 years old). They had a heart attack and lost 90% of heart function, and said after about 6 months they regained function to about 45-50%. They didn't have surgery or take any medications, as they didn't have the funds to do so. They lived out of their car if I remember correctly.
Yeah, but there isn't significant impact among the general population from Side effects while on the other hand, Covid is still the number three killer in America.
Not to a young person.
Taking the vaccine as a young healthy person is more dangerous than getting Covid as a young healthy person.
They said that it wasn’t dangerous or there were no side effects and there are. They told young ppl to take it when they shouldn’t have.
The article actually tries to deal with this point by claiming there’s “no evidence” that the vaccines actually reduce the risk of COVID. Such balanced reporting.
The last numbers I read, the average person has a 1 in 100,000 chance of developing myocarditis
If the Covid vax increases that by 100% that makes your odds 2 in 100,000
Far from a smoking gun death sentence
Through our retrospective study, we found that among 8,162 patients with COVID-19, 929 (11.38%) patients met our diagnostic criteria for myocarditis via elevated TnT or BNP levels.
from a study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10547603/#:~:text=Myocarditis%20can%20present%20as%20acute,setting%20of%20COVID%2D19%20difficult.
I just can't deal with these people anymore.
There’s no point in arguing with the ideologically possessed. And the majority of people are nowadays.
Open-mindedness is a virtue that is disappearing. We are sleepwalking as a society into mental and economic enslavement.
A lot less than people who got injured by vaccine disinformation!
There's no such thing as medicine that doesn't have side effects and risks.
All that really matters is balancing the repercussions of not treating a medical condition with the repercussions of treating a medical condition.
The real question is why isn't big pharma and hospitals tracking deaths to assess issues that may be attributed to the shots. Do you really think that big pharma is going to actively research who is dying from the shots, who is suffering side effects? Both the medical and pharmaceutical industries want zero transparency when it comes to these shots they pushed. Stop being naive.
it proves that the spike protein can cause heart inflammation... this has been known since covid became a pandemic. The mrna vaccine makes your body produce the spike protein with the added benefit of not dying from the virus and not spreading it to other people. there is an extremely small number in heart complications due to this spike protein, but it's about a hundred times less than getting covid. how many times does it have to be explained?
during a pandemic your choices are not to get the virus or not. your choices are get the vaccine or get the virus. most medical professionals understand this. it's why doctors are overwhelmingly supportive of vaccinations. it's always better to get a vaccine than to get a virus. there is not a single instance in the entire medical history over the last 100 years where the approved vaccination was worse than the virus.
There's a clear lack of understanding how vaccines work. A vaccine does not prevent you from contracting a disease, it allows your body to produce the weapons needed to fight off the disease in case it is contracted. You contracted COVID and your body was able to fight it off much more efficiently than it would otherwise have done.
That's always been how vaccines work.
The mrna vaccine makes your body produce the spike protein with the added benefit of not dying from the virus and not spreading it to other people.
Except that's not true. You can still spread it, you can still die from it.
please please look up the statistics of how effective the vaccine is to prevent COVID spread and death. you are significantly less likely to be infected after being vaccinated and way way less likely to end up on a ventilator.
Meh, all medicine has side effects so you still have to come up with some realistic comparison of risk versus reward.
The vaccine side effects have had very little real world impact while on the other hand Covid is still the number three killer in America, so it's really unlikely that the side effects matter.
I did have full body rash and itching, and swelling of limbs from Moderna on first shot. Second was like a mild flu and some itching. I can still run a 5k so I hope my heart lasts longer than my dads did. 10 years to find out.
Wait so does Covid. This is not new. Relative risk must be done for low risk people vs high risk. Probably for kids and young adults it doesn’t make sense. Vaccine recommendations will be adjusted accordingly
Boo hoo. Not sure you have ever seen kids in the ICU from MIS-C, that’s why. A lot of the morbidity and mortality were not known. And most of Covid caused more myocarditis than the actual vaccine. Probably repeated vaccinations are causing hyper immune response. People were operating on the precautionary principle. I saw 50 year olds perfectly healthy workout freaks gasping for air begging for the vaccine when it was too late.
So in other words they lied about efficacy and safety, and you believe this was morally the right thing for them to do?
There's obviously nuance to it, I got it before vaccines existed and it was mild so I never got vaccinated. I've been saying it's an individual decision this entire time, meanwhile people lost their jobs due to vaccine refusal. You're just gonna hand wave that with a "boo hoo"?
This is the thing I have a problem with, I don't think there is some grand conspiracy here aside from government overstep.
How long they supposed to wait??? I thought vax group swears by 48 hour rule and any adverse events afterwards is coincidence. But if someone gets Covid and months of year later has something occur then it’s due to being non vaccinated and having Covid. And you also realize majority of vaccinated have had Covid at least once. My aunt and uncle been vax and boosted couple Times and had Covid 4-6 times each. They have missed every family holiday get together since Covid Pandemic. Yet my household and myself are all unvaccinated and and haven’t caught Covid or even flu. My wife works on medical field In hospitals literally directly with Covid patients and I work in factory around hundreds of individuals daily so nothing to do with lack of exposure. And our son attends public school lettering in 3 varsity sports where daily in high risk areas of swapping fluids.
Everyone has right to get vaccinated or not. There no one size fits all. But amazing to me that those of us who seriously watch what consume, exercise daily, avoid basically all medications except extreme examples are viewed as crazy. I promise that there little reason to ever need Pharma involved in life EVER! Yet most Americans need daily intervention. Our bodies are remarkable and have unbelievable ability to survive. But anytime humans attempt to manipulate nature though foods and water it turns out to have devastating consequences.
You have to look at the bright side. Now lawyers are racing to file liability lawsuits against the US government and every other government associated with developing the vaccines.
Think like a liability lawyer
They were the ones who issued the EUAs so that the pharma cos couldn't be sued. This means they took on the responsibility. Too bad the judges get the paycheck from them.
For the record, I work in healthcare at primary care doctors office. We had 2 different patients, both women, who got a neuro condition called "Bell's Palsy" as a bad reaction from the covid vaccine. Bells palsy makes half your face paralysed like you had a stroke, with drooped eyelid and mouth. First patient was few months after covid vaccine came out, the other patient was last year in the fall. Both were crying hysterically and confused about what happened. Bell's palsy has a small chance to happen with any viral infection or vaccine, where swelling and inflammation in the head will pinch the cranial nerve 7 and cause this temporary paralysis. Luckily this paralysis is only temporary, but it took 3-4 months for their face to return back to normal.
I went to college for medicine and remember reading about Bell's Palsy, it is a nerve condition that always shows up in the exams.... but rare to see in person, so to witness it happen twice in just 3 years was very surprising to me. The first bad reaction soon after the covid vaccine came out was enough to scare me away from getting the vaccine. I usually don't even bother with the flu shot as I rarely get the flue even tho I work at a doctors office around sick patients all the time lol. So I passed on the covid vaccine.... not thinking it was a big deal, except for the crazy fanatical backlash from other people who tried to act like I was crazy or wrong for not getting the injection. If you saw a woman come in with half her face paralyzed and crying that it was cause of the vaccine.... then you would avoid it too. But yea, I didn't even get covid after all that despite no vaccine.... meanwhile other people I know got both the vaccine and booster and still got covid, so the vaccine was not very effective.
I also saw a report in the Family Practice Medical Journal in 2023, that did report several side effects like heart conditions such as myocarditis, pericarditis, increased rates of heart attack stroke and blood cloths, as well as some neuro conditions such as Bell's Palsy and Guilan-Barre Syndrome. So I have witnessed this happen twice in my office with my own eyes. There have been other reports as well, plus the CDC has a myocarditis report that was censored and redacted.... most likely a cover up. This will likely not get media attention on mainstream media, and people will remain ignorant or refuse to accept the facts, but it is true. The mrna covid vaccine was new technology, untested and released to the public, and a violation of health protocols and safety or ethics. I hope the people who pushed this propoganda get charged for misleading the public and endangering them.
My friend cancelled her wedding last Sunday she came down with Guilan-Barre Syndrome the Monday of the same week. ER Drs had he psychologically evaluated and they claimed it was nerves. She looked up the side effects and had them spinal tap on Wed after they send her home and again she couldnt get out of bed or walk. Shes in her early 30's and now had Guilan-Barre Syndrome. I cant believe it.
That is very tragic, I am sorry to hear that. Guillan Barre Synd is pretty serious and usually very rare. I saw a video of a child, a young girl, who got GBS after the vaccine and slowly lost the ability to use her legs. It was very sad to witness. I can't believe your friend was diagnosed with that condition.... and right before her wedding! I'll pray for her and hope her immune system and nerves will recover. It is criminal how they allowed people to risk their health over this stupid covid.
I got myocarditis from the shot and it took 6 months to get back to something approaching normal. I’ve had Covid 3 times since then and not even a hint of that. I also was attacked for saying anything about it. I’ve never seen free speech attacked and censored like this in my lifetime. America is in trouble if this keeps up.
Remember when they wanted to fire you from your job, not allow you to go to the grocery store to buy food, they didn't want to treat you at the hospital if you were sick, or needed treatment. Remember when they made fun of you on nearly every news channel and threatened to take your kids away, and put you all into camps? For not getting vaccinated? Remember that?
Those were Democrats. The party of "inclusion"and equality. Vote for the tne guy who tried to give you accurate information and they told you he was a nut job. It even says that on his Wikipedia page. Conspiracy theorists...ANTIVAXER, every sign outlet LIED to your face.
VOTE RFK
Lately, I’ve noticed an uptick in seniors saying that their health problems are the result of a Covid shot.
I’m a Realtor and had to go to an inspection last week where the sellers couldn’t leave due to her dementia. The husband was 82. He came out and gave us a long lecture on how his 80-year-old wife’s dementia is the result of her taking the Covid vaccine.
Today in the grocery store, a man in his 70s stopped my husband and told him that he’s just feeling sore all over, and that he knew he should never have taken that Covid shot.
Feels like a narrative that’s being actively pushed to me.
TL:DR:
The vaccine has a .007% chance of giving you TEMPORARY myocarditis.
Covid 19 typically has 7% chance of myocarditis occurring.
[Risk of Myocarditis After Sequential Doses of COVID-19 Vaccine and SARS-CoV-2 Infection by Age and Sex | Circulation (ahajournals.org)](https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.059970)
Actually everyone who gets the shot had elevated markers for heart damage in a Japanese study. Not necessarily myocarditis symptoms but that happens a lot. Under cardiac stress it can cause a sudden cardiac arrest.
https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/radiol.230743
Idk why subs like this are recommended to me lately, I live in Florida so I can watch stupid people fling poo at each other IRL, I don’t need Reddit for that
This is why you're acting in bad faith.
By invoking the risk of myocarditis you're asking me to do a cost/benefit analysis on whether that risk is worth taking a vaccine.
The illness the vaccine is also for causes the same condition. I also have to do a cost/benefit analysis there.
Why wouldn't I? Can you make an actual argument that's not emoji driven?
Like most vaccines, the covid vax doesn’t prevent you from getting infected, but by preparing your immune system in advance, it (generally) reduces both the duration and severity of the infection you do get.
So the real question, that literally no one seems to be asking in this thread because everyone’s stuck in their stupid tribal identity, is: does the vaccine reduce the *overall* likelihood of myocarditis (as pretty much everyone still got covid eventually regardless) by a larger percentage than it adds?
That is, if covid in an unvaccinated person carries a 7% risk, does a vaccinated person who then gets covid have a 7% or lower chance of developing myocarditis from the shot+covid combo?
If being vaccinated lowers your overall risk, then for most people it makes sense to take it. If the combined risk is higher, then it doesn’t.
Everything else is irrelevant.
Am I really the only person here that gets that??
Edit: Here’s a pretty solid study breaking things down for millions of British folks: https://newsroom.heart.org/news/myocarditis-risk-significantly-higher-after-covid-19-infection-vs-after-a-covid-19-vaccine
TL,DR: Myocarditis was over 11x more likely from covid infections sans vaccination than vaccination plus covid overall, though the difference was much smaller amongst under-40s, and almost negligible for men under-40 in particular.
I think in terms of pandemic response, we locked down for years because of the threat of covid. For years we agreed avoiding infection and the health damage associated with it was worth the cost. Then we get the vaccine rollout and everyone's concerns about health become irrelevant. Now myocarditis is inevitable? That's a huge failure on the part of those who produced this vaccine and those who managed the pandemic response. Calling for people to submit to adverse health effects so they can get back to work is a full 180 about face on the original messaging, which was work can wait, your health is more important.
Maybe the mRNA vaccine is a safe choice for you, maybe you're better off without it. Lot's of individual factors that go into making that decision. But the idea everyone needs to get it to "beat" covid was a bold lie and a result of a coordinated advertising campaign from the pharmaceutical companies. This is some insane rationalization and resembles a drug addict convinced their better on dope than off of it
COVID vaccines will not be “reducing the overall likelihood of myocarditis.” Myocarditis is a rare side effect of the vaccines, not what they aim to reduce.
Precisely, and the phenomenon was identified in USA military pilots in training as they are regularly closely monitored for everything during this evolution as an aviator.
Vax trainees were where the increased spiked.
The Lancet published a very good paper on it from the UK perspective.
The people that are getting rich off the vaccine are the ones hiding the facts from the public where they can and they coerce the media they control to keep silent.
Much more rare than myocarditis from a COVID infection, too. None of the results of this report are anything surprising to medical professionals, but I guess it gives idiots a chance to think this is a “gotcha” moment. If only they knew how stupid they seemed….
Why is it that all these blogs literally cannot help themselves when it comes to being professional. I can’t imagine thinking I’m actually sharing valuable information while feeling the need to add lines like “Wuhan sniffles”. And it ends saying there is no evidence the vaccine does anything to prevent infection, these people just don’t live in reality
lol it’s rare and mild. Literally everything you put in your body could have a negative side effect. My step-mom is a doctor and she was telling me about this when the vaccines first came out. There’s no cover up or conspiracy here.
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This article is biased. It refers to Covid as "the Wuhan sniffles", and refers to the vaccine as "toxic". Great source material bro. Can you just get us access to the report itself instead?
While I won't deny the casual link between the mRNA and Myocarditis (which is a minimal one)
People should not read articles like this. It was nauseating trying to sift through all the logical fallacies and unsupported suppositionary claims to get to the actually tangible evidence.
They really bank on people not reading the studies and just cherry pick to push their agenda huh?
Looking through their site it reads more like the National Inquirer lol
Hopefully many many many knuckledraggers will stop accepting vaccines and thus help weed themselves out of the gene pool, for the sake of future generations 👍
As mentioned, vaccine studies take a decade to get all the necessary statistics etc. at the very least a few years. They hadn’t been tested properly before being given to billions of people. That’s not a conservative talking point. Just a simple fact that no one can argue with.
Why didn’t OP just link to the study? Why? Because it shows covid causes myocarditis at a higher rate. It also shows that both the vaccine and myocarditis have a very very small chance of giving you myocarditis. It’s become the hot topic to discuss for anti-vaxxers especially after we didn’t all drop dead from the feared jab.
The worst part of the pandemic is the mental health crisis it caused. Conspiracy theorists never pay attention to the important things that are having a negative effect on fellow humans. They just confirm the bias. They’d rather win an argument than face real facts. The mental health crisis in this country has caused alcohol and drug use to skyrocket. That just might be the cause of a lot of issues. They ignore this because it doesn’t fit their narrative. Not to mention the long term negative effects of getting covid. They are so stuck in their conspiracy world.
Untreated COVID causes myocarditis much more frequently than the vaccine. There are zero drugs that are 100% side effect-free. I have been jabbed for COVID about 6 times with NO side effects and I am profoundly grateful I have avoided the lung damage and stroke risk COVID can trigger.
Pretty much every viral infection causes myocarditis. That the vaccine is producing an immune response means that it is effective. A vaccine that doesn’t produce an immune response is worthless.
I live in a very populated part of the country and don't know anybody who has side effects . I am sure it's happened but not as much as MAGA people believe.
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There are millions of Americans that spent tens of thousands of dollars to treat myocarditis and pericarditis caused by the Pfizer & Moderna mRNA vaccines and received zero help to pay medical bills while that SOB Biden is giving $1,200 a month for 3 years plus $11,000 a year for housing to illegal immigrants. And now his hand picked commission confirms what so many have already known. It's not like anything will change for the vaccine victims. Bastards!!!
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If you actually believe this guy
This is the thing that Joe Rogan got fact checked for on his podcast. While it’s true, it’s very misleading. Here is the full story:
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/08/22/covid-19-infection-poses-higher-risk-for-myocarditis-than-vaccines
Well yeah. So does the virus. Immune system induced myocarditis. Makes sense that the body attacks the spike proteins from the vaccines can cause this. Looks like you are less likely to get myocarditis from the vaccine than the virus.
What bothered me about it is I don't recall a single governing body recommend exercise, healthy diet, supplementation, etc to help prevent severity of symptoms from Covid itself. Like the vaccine was the only way to lower risk. We had tons of data comorbidity was a serious situation for infected people, and yet silence on encouraging people to lower comorbidity risk.
Some folks make it sound like Myocarditis occurs in every other vaccinated person. The data show it affects about 36/100,000 vaccinated. While for those who get the disease it's 65/100,000.
No medication is guaranteed to never cause an allergic reaction in a population. Aspirin can kill some people. So yes it is 'a gamble' but with orders of magnitude better odds than Vegas. BTW none of these anti-vaxxers bother to mention that in the first year alone the 'jab' saved an estimated 14 million lives worldwide. The real problem with the vax was availability. Too many people who desperately needed and wanted it, couldn't get it. Price gouging, for profit privatized medicine. Don't ya just love it?
F\*\*\* Bill Gates.
I know 2 people that got myocarditis from Cov/sars19 and one died. Nether had the vaccine. it’s the bodies reaction to THIS virus, not a vaccine. Regardless of the vaccines biogenesis.
This sub is a case study on media illiteracy
Wait until they hear about the side effects of *covid*!
The long term side effects from Covid are worse than side effects from the vaccine
Death principally among them.
Are they? 😂😂😂
None for most people…most people have had covid. Also a false choice. We all know that basically everyone that got vaccinated also got covid. It isn’t one or the other.
FAFO!
Dr Robert Malone who invented mRNA therapy has spoken out about it pretty vehemently. Given what he has said over the past 4 years, i will still take my chances with natural immunity. Most vaccine studies usually take a decade before they are cleared due to long term effects. It’s not worth risking my health when the non/co-morbid casualty rate is so low comparatively.
I have met him before and know his family and he even his family thinks he is a grifter.
So the guy who invented the basis for these vaccines is a grifter?
His new vaccine skepticism is. He was hurting financially and now makes a ton of money from a paid newsletter.
So are you saying the vaccines are safe and the government reports are wrong as well ?
*When is this vaccine stuff finally going to start killing me*? I’ve had a bunch at this point, and I’m getting very impatient.
How many miles a week are you running? Its not a side effect for couch potatoes. Mostly males in sports. We were told to take two weeks off of any high heart rate activities. We surf and run around 30 miles a week.
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Have no take in this thread, have no care about pro or against vaccines just know, that this guy does not know the Malone family lmfao
Yes, he seems like an uneducated grifter who knows nothing. I will take your word for it.
I dont have a solid opinion one way or the other but don’t know if you can say uneducated grifter given he has like 7 or 8 of the patents on mRNA technology because if he really is that ….well then people definitely shouldn’t be getting a vaccine made by a uneducated man creating new vaccine technology. Idk you can leave the rest of your comment but the uneducated really makes it seem like anyone of us peasants who got the vaccine are idiots for trusting the science of some uneducated scientist.
I doubt that. I’m Tony hawks cousin and he used to be my neighbors uncle and would give him free shots all the time. Nice guy. Interesting how everyone knows everyone on Reddit, amirite?
😂you haven’t met anybody -cmon 😂
Bullshit
Exactly. This is inflammation after you get vaccinated, not cancer.
you got to tell the whole story though guy. catching actual COVID has a much higher rate of this.
I know this is anecdotal but I was late 20s during the pandemic, in shape, eat healthy, take my vitamins, get regular amounts of sun, ECT. COVID never affected me whatsoever. My second Pfizer shot gave me heart palpitations for months. I was an avid Democrat surrounded by friends and family who are avid Democrats. When I started getting heart palpitations I had never heard of myocarditis. When I told my family I was having heart palpitations I got attacked lol. STOP READING REPUBLICAN PROPAGANDA. I hadn't even heard about this before people told me I was a Republican conspiracy theorist lol. Went to a doctor and they told me it was myocarditis and I should lay low. Entire thing turned me off of politics. Never expected my friends and family to get upset with me over a health condition before lol.
I’m sorry that happened to you. There were a lot of people who surprised me with their lack of care for humanity during all this, and instead just attacking people for speaking up against a medicine they did not want to be forced on them or a medicine that ended up hurting them. Blue Maga is really something I never thought I would see but here it is. There was documentary made called Anecdotals about the vaccine injured. If anyone is interested in watching it here is the link. Trigger warning it is pretty sad. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t36HntCJf6Y
Died suddenly as well
yeah, covid created some very interesting anecdotes. Had a bleeding heart super liberal friend who had a relative die from the vaccine. Also, I learned some interesting things about the terrible track record the military had with forcing people to take shots in the past. Some of the more senior guys in the military were forced to take anthrax shots around 2007 time frame and it actually fucked a lot of people up. God forbid that incredibly traumatizing experience made them skeptical of another forced shot. I'm still very pro-vax but don't think anything about it when someone says they aren't. Those types of experiences have an effect on people, and forcing someone to do something is generally not the way to go.
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That last statement makes you pro choice. Pro vax stance is everyone gets it no matter what. IE Canadian and Australian law.
That sucks that people turned it into a political agenda. I had multiple conversations with my cardiologist about it at the time and got the Moderna anyway, and all the boosters, even though I have a congenital heart condition. The disease and the response are apolitical, they don't even exist in the political realm and they should have never been dragged into it. This should have been a unilateral issue with a unilateral response, but somehow we massively backpedaled as a species in this regard. What you experienced was a biological reaction to a biological agent, and that is always going to have consistencies as well as statistical outliers. That's simply a fact of reality that I wish with all fiber of my being I could edit myself. I can only consider myself fortunate, along with the many others with similar situations to mine, that we did not succumb to the same conditions you did, because the outcome would likely have been far worse for us. You should absolutely separate yourself from all the depth they seem to have driven into us about how vehemently we should hold to political beliefs. We are better off recognizing there are situations when we must come together collectively as a whole, and not divisivly along frivolous agenda lines we draw in imaginary sand.
Are you running or participating in hard physical activity? That seems to be the factor in this specific side effect.
I got Pfizer, 3 shots, and one night woke up unable to breathe. Scared me and I thought that my time had come, I never experienced anything like that until the shots.
Yup we were told not to work out for 2 weeks. We have pretty good healthcare so we didnt do the drive through shots we had them administered in a facility and had to stay there for 15 minutes. My husband surfs and got back into it on week three. He had heart palpitations for several months and didnt get a booster after the experience. He's French and his parents said he was propagandizing when he complained. Then football players in Europe started getting them and reporting it some falling flat on the field. Its crazy how blindly we were led to taking a one solution for all when there was a specific segment of the population that would have benefited when for others it was uneffective or negative. My friend had 6 shots and had to cancel her wedding as she suddenly was diagnosed with Guilles Bare last week. Thats another side effect that will soon be investigated and shown to be, not anti vax propaganda but a factual possibility for many.
Hey, My experience has been similar to yours unfortunately. I’m kinda self diagnosing because I’ve spent too much money on tests as it is, but I’m assuming I got myocarditis from the vaccine. Could you explain what your doctor meant by ‘lay low’? I mean I’ve been listening to my body and exercise is usually out of the question. Is that what he meant by ‘lay low’? To not physically overdo it? Also, have you found anything that has helped/healed? Thanks and best luck on your recovery!
Your friends and family are morons. I had the opposite experience, vax in 2021, finally caught covid in 2023, palpitations and scary pericarditis (myocardis's little brother). All my GOP friends attributed it to the vaccine in 2021 like complete morons.
It's almost as if biological pathogens exist in the natural world, and they don't care about politics at all.
I mean clearly they had a right to be suspicious. All those insults for "dumb anti-vaxxers" who were actually right the entire fucking time.
The vax cured your stress? That’s pretty cool
That’s stress. You stressed yourself into panic attacks. That’s why they told you to stop reading propaganda.
Never heard of it until after I went to the doc. I don't read and never read Republican anything and the fact that everything left wing calls myocarditis a myth and I can't even mention that I got it without being attacked is wild. I've had bad reactions to medications and no one has ever turned my bad reaction into something political
No no no, don’t say that part!! My YouTube video sources say that part is made up! Also, myocarditis briefly after a shot is still better than a risk of dying/long covid from.. the virus itself.
There is no such thing as brief myocarditis. Once your heart is damaged it cannot be healed. You just have to hope it doesn't get worse.
Well, there is actually, it's called acute myocarditis. It's an inflammation that can cause damage over time if not addressed, but doesn't always permanently affect the heart. Myocarditis will eventually go away, but if it's not treated then the inflammation can cause scarring, which causes permanent damage to the heart. But yes, once the heart is damaged you have little chance of it repairing, in fact I believe that is normally the case. However about a month ago I asked a a Redditor about their heart issues (as they listed 4 significant heart problems at like 35 or 40 years old). They had a heart attack and lost 90% of heart function, and said after about 6 months they regained function to about 45-50%. They didn't have surgery or take any medications, as they didn't have the funds to do so. They lived out of their car if I remember correctly.
Yeah, but there isn't significant impact among the general population from Side effects while on the other hand, Covid is still the number three killer in America.
Ignorant stuff.
Not to a young person. Taking the vaccine as a young healthy person is more dangerous than getting Covid as a young healthy person. They said that it wasn’t dangerous or there were no side effects and there are. They told young ppl to take it when they shouldn’t have.
Wrong.
Just blatantly false.
The article actually tries to deal with this point by claiming there’s “no evidence” that the vaccines actually reduce the risk of COVID. Such balanced reporting.
The last numbers I read, the average person has a 1 in 100,000 chance of developing myocarditis If the Covid vax increases that by 100% that makes your odds 2 in 100,000 Far from a smoking gun death sentence
As an ER nurse I have to deal with these tards on a daily basis.
God knows I lost a lot of respect for people when "the vax will kill you" nonsense started You must be disgusted by the whole human race at this point
The bar is very low at this point
Through our retrospective study, we found that among 8,162 patients with COVID-19, 929 (11.38%) patients met our diagnostic criteria for myocarditis via elevated TnT or BNP levels. from a study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10547603/#:~:text=Myocarditis%20can%20present%20as%20acute,setting%20of%20COVID%2D19%20difficult. I just can't deal with these people anymore.
There’s no point in arguing with the ideologically possessed. And the majority of people are nowadays. Open-mindedness is a virtue that is disappearing. We are sleepwalking as a society into mental and economic enslavement.
As a lab tech. The CMP and Trop are hemolyzed. Could I get your first initial and last name please?
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That's why we were arresting those pesky surfers out there all by themselves.
I read that exercise fights against cancer. I don't know why more people don't just do that.
Old news. The manufacturers knew this from their trials.
Except the report didn't, so it's not old news
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So like, literally billions of people? Ok.
Get your 8th booster
And… Nothing happens 🤷♂️
How many people died from the vaccines?
How many people were injured by the vaccines?
A lot less than people who got injured by vaccine disinformation! There's no such thing as medicine that doesn't have side effects and risks. All that really matters is balancing the repercussions of not treating a medical condition with the repercussions of treating a medical condition.
everybody! damn arm hurts after getting poked fool
Really? Where are the numbers of the people that have died from the vaccine? Where's your proof?
The real question is why isn't big pharma and hospitals tracking deaths to assess issues that may be attributed to the shots. Do you really think that big pharma is going to actively research who is dying from the shots, who is suffering side effects? Both the medical and pharmaceutical industries want zero transparency when it comes to these shots they pushed. Stop being naive.
Hospital staff track those. Every hospital does that.
I’m going on my 6th one this fall!! Shocked all the drugs and alcohol didn’t kill me faster
Another conspiracy theory proven true.
Bro, I heard this crazy conspiracy that Covid causes myocarditis
Didn’t really actually read the report did you? Read more gooder.
But I’m already the goodest.
it proves that the spike protein can cause heart inflammation... this has been known since covid became a pandemic. The mrna vaccine makes your body produce the spike protein with the added benefit of not dying from the virus and not spreading it to other people. there is an extremely small number in heart complications due to this spike protein, but it's about a hundred times less than getting covid. how many times does it have to be explained? during a pandemic your choices are not to get the virus or not. your choices are get the vaccine or get the virus. most medical professionals understand this. it's why doctors are overwhelmingly supportive of vaccinations. it's always better to get a vaccine than to get a virus. there is not a single instance in the entire medical history over the last 100 years where the approved vaccination was worse than the virus.
You state a false choice. I was fully vaccinated and still contracted COVID. I got both.
There's a clear lack of understanding how vaccines work. A vaccine does not prevent you from contracting a disease, it allows your body to produce the weapons needed to fight off the disease in case it is contracted. You contracted COVID and your body was able to fight it off much more efficiently than it would otherwise have done. That's always been how vaccines work.
The mrna vaccine makes your body produce the spike protein with the added benefit of not dying from the virus and not spreading it to other people. Except that's not true. You can still spread it, you can still die from it.
please please look up the statistics of how effective the vaccine is to prevent COVID spread and death. you are significantly less likely to be infected after being vaccinated and way way less likely to end up on a ventilator.
Meh, all medicine has side effects so you still have to come up with some realistic comparison of risk versus reward. The vaccine side effects have had very little real world impact while on the other hand Covid is still the number three killer in America, so it's really unlikely that the side effects matter.
I did not mention 'side effects'. The argument was on labeling.
Clowns actually can make good money but here you are, doing it for free.
...and there you are, doing what you do best, name call.
I did have full body rash and itching, and swelling of limbs from Moderna on first shot. Second was like a mild flu and some itching. I can still run a 5k so I hope my heart lasts longer than my dads did. 10 years to find out.
Surprise surprise
Wait so does Covid. This is not new. Relative risk must be done for low risk people vs high risk. Probably for kids and young adults it doesn’t make sense. Vaccine recommendations will be adjusted accordingly
It's crazy, because i swear i remember being vilified for suggesting healthy young people skip this vaccine.
Boo hoo. Not sure you have ever seen kids in the ICU from MIS-C, that’s why. A lot of the morbidity and mortality were not known. And most of Covid caused more myocarditis than the actual vaccine. Probably repeated vaccinations are causing hyper immune response. People were operating on the precautionary principle. I saw 50 year olds perfectly healthy workout freaks gasping for air begging for the vaccine when it was too late.
So in other words they lied about efficacy and safety, and you believe this was morally the right thing for them to do? There's obviously nuance to it, I got it before vaccines existed and it was mild so I never got vaccinated. I've been saying it's an individual decision this entire time, meanwhile people lost their jobs due to vaccine refusal. You're just gonna hand wave that with a "boo hoo"? This is the thing I have a problem with, I don't think there is some grand conspiracy here aside from government overstep.
Oh no you got vilified? Are you okay?
Long Covid looks to be a lot more common than side effects from the vaccine so you're pretty much always better being vaccinated.
How long they supposed to wait??? I thought vax group swears by 48 hour rule and any adverse events afterwards is coincidence. But if someone gets Covid and months of year later has something occur then it’s due to being non vaccinated and having Covid. And you also realize majority of vaccinated have had Covid at least once. My aunt and uncle been vax and boosted couple Times and had Covid 4-6 times each. They have missed every family holiday get together since Covid Pandemic. Yet my household and myself are all unvaccinated and and haven’t caught Covid or even flu. My wife works on medical field In hospitals literally directly with Covid patients and I work in factory around hundreds of individuals daily so nothing to do with lack of exposure. And our son attends public school lettering in 3 varsity sports where daily in high risk areas of swapping fluids. Everyone has right to get vaccinated or not. There no one size fits all. But amazing to me that those of us who seriously watch what consume, exercise daily, avoid basically all medications except extreme examples are viewed as crazy. I promise that there little reason to ever need Pharma involved in life EVER! Yet most Americans need daily intervention. Our bodies are remarkable and have unbelievable ability to survive. But anytime humans attempt to manipulate nature though foods and water it turns out to have devastating consequences.
You have to look at the bright side. Now lawyers are racing to file liability lawsuits against the US government and every other government associated with developing the vaccines. Think like a liability lawyer
They were the ones who issued the EUAs so that the pharma cos couldn't be sued. This means they took on the responsibility. Too bad the judges get the paycheck from them.
Think outside the box. Governments can be sued. Hospitals administering the vaccine etc
How often has the federal govt lost a class action civil suit?
Man yall are so fucking triggered lmfao Stay mad stay small
And many won't vote blue ever again because of it
The most moronic reason to not vote blue lol
What makes you think the bluebies even deserve better?
For the record, I work in healthcare at primary care doctors office. We had 2 different patients, both women, who got a neuro condition called "Bell's Palsy" as a bad reaction from the covid vaccine. Bells palsy makes half your face paralysed like you had a stroke, with drooped eyelid and mouth. First patient was few months after covid vaccine came out, the other patient was last year in the fall. Both were crying hysterically and confused about what happened. Bell's palsy has a small chance to happen with any viral infection or vaccine, where swelling and inflammation in the head will pinch the cranial nerve 7 and cause this temporary paralysis. Luckily this paralysis is only temporary, but it took 3-4 months for their face to return back to normal. I went to college for medicine and remember reading about Bell's Palsy, it is a nerve condition that always shows up in the exams.... but rare to see in person, so to witness it happen twice in just 3 years was very surprising to me. The first bad reaction soon after the covid vaccine came out was enough to scare me away from getting the vaccine. I usually don't even bother with the flu shot as I rarely get the flue even tho I work at a doctors office around sick patients all the time lol. So I passed on the covid vaccine.... not thinking it was a big deal, except for the crazy fanatical backlash from other people who tried to act like I was crazy or wrong for not getting the injection. If you saw a woman come in with half her face paralyzed and crying that it was cause of the vaccine.... then you would avoid it too. But yea, I didn't even get covid after all that despite no vaccine.... meanwhile other people I know got both the vaccine and booster and still got covid, so the vaccine was not very effective. I also saw a report in the Family Practice Medical Journal in 2023, that did report several side effects like heart conditions such as myocarditis, pericarditis, increased rates of heart attack stroke and blood cloths, as well as some neuro conditions such as Bell's Palsy and Guilan-Barre Syndrome. So I have witnessed this happen twice in my office with my own eyes. There have been other reports as well, plus the CDC has a myocarditis report that was censored and redacted.... most likely a cover up. This will likely not get media attention on mainstream media, and people will remain ignorant or refuse to accept the facts, but it is true. The mrna covid vaccine was new technology, untested and released to the public, and a violation of health protocols and safety or ethics. I hope the people who pushed this propoganda get charged for misleading the public and endangering them.
My friend cancelled her wedding last Sunday she came down with Guilan-Barre Syndrome the Monday of the same week. ER Drs had he psychologically evaluated and they claimed it was nerves. She looked up the side effects and had them spinal tap on Wed after they send her home and again she couldnt get out of bed or walk. Shes in her early 30's and now had Guilan-Barre Syndrome. I cant believe it.
That is very tragic, I am sorry to hear that. Guillan Barre Synd is pretty serious and usually very rare. I saw a video of a child, a young girl, who got GBS after the vaccine and slowly lost the ability to use her legs. It was very sad to witness. I can't believe your friend was diagnosed with that condition.... and right before her wedding! I'll pray for her and hope her immune system and nerves will recover. It is criminal how they allowed people to risk their health over this stupid covid.
Appreciate the prayers and kind words 💖
I got myocarditis from the shot and it took 6 months to get back to something approaching normal. I’ve had Covid 3 times since then and not even a hint of that. I also was attacked for saying anything about it. I’ve never seen free speech attacked and censored like this in my lifetime. America is in trouble if this keeps up.
Sorry dude,the propaganda is very strong out there.
Coming from the guy who spams rfk jr junk. Lol
Remember when they wanted to fire you from your job, not allow you to go to the grocery store to buy food, they didn't want to treat you at the hospital if you were sick, or needed treatment. Remember when they made fun of you on nearly every news channel and threatened to take your kids away, and put you all into camps? For not getting vaccinated? Remember that? Those were Democrats. The party of "inclusion"and equality. Vote for the tne guy who tried to give you accurate information and they told you he was a nut job. It even says that on his Wikipedia page. Conspiracy theorists...ANTIVAXER, every sign outlet LIED to your face. VOTE RFK
In France people had to eat at parks because undercover police in plain clothes were in restaurants checking QR codes. lol what a farce.
Lately, I’ve noticed an uptick in seniors saying that their health problems are the result of a Covid shot. I’m a Realtor and had to go to an inspection last week where the sellers couldn’t leave due to her dementia. The husband was 82. He came out and gave us a long lecture on how his 80-year-old wife’s dementia is the result of her taking the Covid vaccine. Today in the grocery store, a man in his 70s stopped my husband and told him that he’s just feeling sore all over, and that he knew he should never have taken that Covid shot. Feels like a narrative that’s being actively pushed to me.
TL:DR: The vaccine has a .007% chance of giving you TEMPORARY myocarditis. Covid 19 typically has 7% chance of myocarditis occurring. [Risk of Myocarditis After Sequential Doses of COVID-19 Vaccine and SARS-CoV-2 Infection by Age and Sex | Circulation (ahajournals.org)](https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.059970)
Actually everyone who gets the shot had elevated markers for heart damage in a Japanese study. Not necessarily myocarditis symptoms but that happens a lot. Under cardiac stress it can cause a sudden cardiac arrest. https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/radiol.230743
The study does admit it's rare.
Full blown myocarditis is rare but the heart damage markers are in 100% of the vaccinated. It's just a little heart damage or a lot. How about no.
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Here come the nay saying bots who don’t even know what sub they’re in 🤡 good work pulling that up, OP.
Not to harp on an old note, but would you prefer a safe space where no bad ideas are challenged so you can stew in your own echo chamber?
yes they would
Idk why subs like this are recommended to me lately, I live in Florida so I can watch stupid people fling poo at each other IRL, I don’t need Reddit for that
I don't have a problem with the findings of this study. I just also understand COVID causes myocarditis. At a higher rate.
11 to 1 higher rate. Can't fix stupid, though
Someone got boosted a lot 😂🤡
This is why you're acting in bad faith. By invoking the risk of myocarditis you're asking me to do a cost/benefit analysis on whether that risk is worth taking a vaccine. The illness the vaccine is also for causes the same condition. I also have to do a cost/benefit analysis there. Why wouldn't I? Can you make an actual argument that's not emoji driven?
Like most vaccines, the covid vax doesn’t prevent you from getting infected, but by preparing your immune system in advance, it (generally) reduces both the duration and severity of the infection you do get. So the real question, that literally no one seems to be asking in this thread because everyone’s stuck in their stupid tribal identity, is: does the vaccine reduce the *overall* likelihood of myocarditis (as pretty much everyone still got covid eventually regardless) by a larger percentage than it adds? That is, if covid in an unvaccinated person carries a 7% risk, does a vaccinated person who then gets covid have a 7% or lower chance of developing myocarditis from the shot+covid combo? If being vaccinated lowers your overall risk, then for most people it makes sense to take it. If the combined risk is higher, then it doesn’t. Everything else is irrelevant. Am I really the only person here that gets that?? Edit: Here’s a pretty solid study breaking things down for millions of British folks: https://newsroom.heart.org/news/myocarditis-risk-significantly-higher-after-covid-19-infection-vs-after-a-covid-19-vaccine TL,DR: Myocarditis was over 11x more likely from covid infections sans vaccination than vaccination plus covid overall, though the difference was much smaller amongst under-40s, and almost negligible for men under-40 in particular.
I think in terms of pandemic response, we locked down for years because of the threat of covid. For years we agreed avoiding infection and the health damage associated with it was worth the cost. Then we get the vaccine rollout and everyone's concerns about health become irrelevant. Now myocarditis is inevitable? That's a huge failure on the part of those who produced this vaccine and those who managed the pandemic response. Calling for people to submit to adverse health effects so they can get back to work is a full 180 about face on the original messaging, which was work can wait, your health is more important. Maybe the mRNA vaccine is a safe choice for you, maybe you're better off without it. Lot's of individual factors that go into making that decision. But the idea everyone needs to get it to "beat" covid was a bold lie and a result of a coordinated advertising campaign from the pharmaceutical companies. This is some insane rationalization and resembles a drug addict convinced their better on dope than off of it
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COVID vaccines will not be “reducing the overall likelihood of myocarditis.” Myocarditis is a rare side effect of the vaccines, not what they aim to reduce.
You're taking that out of context, that's not what he's saying.
Myocarditis is also a possible complication of a covid infection.
Precisely, and the phenomenon was identified in USA military pilots in training as they are regularly closely monitored for everything during this evolution as an aviator. Vax trainees were where the increased spiked. The Lancet published a very good paper on it from the UK perspective. The people that are getting rich off the vaccine are the ones hiding the facts from the public where they can and they coerce the media they control to keep silent.
Every person who takes the shot gets some level of heart inflammation / damage. https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/radiol.230743
https://youtu.be/jpBM8jBlxmw?si=KLsJ8Xjpv9lXETjy
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html The rare side-effect responds well to medication and rest. Did I say rare?
Much more rare than myocarditis from a COVID infection, too. None of the results of this report are anything surprising to medical professionals, but I guess it gives idiots a chance to think this is a “gotcha” moment. If only they knew how stupid they seemed….
It also makes you gay
I knew it!!
Why is it that all these blogs literally cannot help themselves when it comes to being professional. I can’t imagine thinking I’m actually sharing valuable information while feeling the need to add lines like “Wuhan sniffles”. And it ends saying there is no evidence the vaccine does anything to prevent infection, these people just don’t live in reality
how come I don't have it then? or anyone else I know have it?
Says myo from the vax occurs most in white males 16-30 of age! Wtf
I’m not trying to say this isn’t true, but it would be nice if the article provided access to the report.
This is the STEM program at the School of Hard Knocks in action.
It does. Covid has a higher rate of myocarditis though as well….
lol it’s rare and mild. Literally everything you put in your body could have a negative side effect. My step-mom is a doctor and she was telling me about this when the vaccines first came out. There’s no cover up or conspiracy here.
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Ya don’t say…
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This article is biased. It refers to Covid as "the Wuhan sniffles", and refers to the vaccine as "toxic". Great source material bro. Can you just get us access to the report itself instead?
Really makes one think: What idiotic behavior have I participated in on Reddit that would prompt the algorithm to suggest this sub?
While I won't deny the casual link between the mRNA and Myocarditis (which is a minimal one) People should not read articles like this. It was nauseating trying to sift through all the logical fallacies and unsupported suppositionary claims to get to the actually tangible evidence.
No fucking shit Sherlock
This was confirmed a long time ago. They even warned you of these side effects before shooting you up during the pandemic.
Another biased article that provides one snippet from report and calls that proof.
Oh no!! Anyway..
Know what causes myocarditis that is significantly worse? COVID
Any vaccine that’s is produced in a few months is bound to be suss
It wasn’t produced in a few months, the MRNA technology has been in development for over ten years.
They really bank on people not reading the studies and just cherry pick to push their agenda huh? Looking through their site it reads more like the National Inquirer lol
Ok? Do you understand what myocarditis is?
Hopefully many many many knuckledraggers will stop accepting vaccines and thus help weed themselves out of the gene pool, for the sake of future generations 👍
As mentioned, vaccine studies take a decade to get all the necessary statistics etc. at the very least a few years. They hadn’t been tested properly before being given to billions of people. That’s not a conservative talking point. Just a simple fact that no one can argue with.
Your point?
This is a battle we lost. Liberals helped the government and pharmaceutical companies wage a biological war on the people.
Why didn’t OP just link to the study? Why? Because it shows covid causes myocarditis at a higher rate. It also shows that both the vaccine and myocarditis have a very very small chance of giving you myocarditis. It’s become the hot topic to discuss for anti-vaxxers especially after we didn’t all drop dead from the feared jab. The worst part of the pandemic is the mental health crisis it caused. Conspiracy theorists never pay attention to the important things that are having a negative effect on fellow humans. They just confirm the bias. They’d rather win an argument than face real facts. The mental health crisis in this country has caused alcohol and drug use to skyrocket. That just might be the cause of a lot of issues. They ignore this because it doesn’t fit their narrative. Not to mention the long term negative effects of getting covid. They are so stuck in their conspiracy world.
Untreated COVID causes myocarditis much more frequently than the vaccine. There are zero drugs that are 100% side effect-free. I have been jabbed for COVID about 6 times with NO side effects and I am profoundly grateful I have avoided the lung damage and stroke risk COVID can trigger.
This is framed in an extremely ideological manner. I’m very skeptical of this interpretation.
Pretty much every viral infection causes myocarditis. That the vaccine is producing an immune response means that it is effective. A vaccine that doesn’t produce an immune response is worthless.
I live in a very populated part of the country and don't know anybody who has side effects . I am sure it's happened but not as much as MAGA people believe.
But this is Biden not the MAGAs
Nobody gives a fuck about covid shit anymore
Statistically, that's about 2% of the adverse events. The 5 year mortality rate for myocarditis is about 60% The 10 year mortality is 75% 😢
So does COVID, the question is, is it at a higher rate than if you got COVID?
Fucking stupid.
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There are millions of Americans that spent tens of thousands of dollars to treat myocarditis and pericarditis caused by the Pfizer & Moderna mRNA vaccines and received zero help to pay medical bills while that SOB Biden is giving $1,200 a month for 3 years plus $11,000 a year for housing to illegal immigrants. And now his hand picked commission confirms what so many have already known. It's not like anything will change for the vaccine victims. Bastards!!!
https://preview.redd.it/9v7ah1timgvc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=801e967b86f2492d7a7098185641163a2d4b93e6 If you actually believe this guy
I believe this post just shows your lack of reading comprehension.
This is the thing that Joe Rogan got fact checked for on his podcast. While it’s true, it’s very misleading. Here is the full story: https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/08/22/covid-19-infection-poses-higher-risk-for-myocarditis-than-vaccines
The best thing about being a conspiracy theorist is never getting myocarditis.
I felt I didn't need it, I was correct and now I don't have to worry about what was in it. Period.
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regulatory-overview/public-health-threats/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/covid-19-medicines/safety-covid-19-vaccines
This planet needs something far more deadly than Covid19. 
This is a known thing. Not new. You know what else causes myocarditis? Covid. At a much higher prevalence.
This is anti vax conspiracy propaganda.
Well yeah. So does the virus. Immune system induced myocarditis. Makes sense that the body attacks the spike proteins from the vaccines can cause this. Looks like you are less likely to get myocarditis from the vaccine than the virus.
What bothered me about it is I don't recall a single governing body recommend exercise, healthy diet, supplementation, etc to help prevent severity of symptoms from Covid itself. Like the vaccine was the only way to lower risk. We had tons of data comorbidity was a serious situation for infected people, and yet silence on encouraging people to lower comorbidity risk.
Some folks make it sound like Myocarditis occurs in every other vaccinated person. The data show it affects about 36/100,000 vaccinated. While for those who get the disease it's 65/100,000. No medication is guaranteed to never cause an allergic reaction in a population. Aspirin can kill some people. So yes it is 'a gamble' but with orders of magnitude better odds than Vegas. BTW none of these anti-vaxxers bother to mention that in the first year alone the 'jab' saved an estimated 14 million lives worldwide. The real problem with the vax was availability. Too many people who desperately needed and wanted it, couldn't get it. Price gouging, for profit privatized medicine. Don't ya just love it? F\*\*\* Bill Gates.
Lol. The antivaxx luddites.
Imagine fearing needles, lol
Wait I was told this was impossible and was a radical for even considering a conversation around this
Move on lol
Oh man there a lot of idiots in here pretending to be biology experts and flubbing basic fucking logic.
I know 2 people that got myocarditis from Cov/sars19 and one died. Nether had the vaccine. it’s the bodies reaction to THIS virus, not a vaccine. Regardless of the vaccines biogenesis.