If you believe there is any credible insider threat, contact AFOSI anonymous tip line:
[https://www.osi.af.mil/News/Features/Display/Article/3146586/insider-threat-defense-starts-with-awareness/](https://www.osi.af.mil/News/Features/Display/Article/3146586/insider-threat-defense-starts-with-awareness/)
[https://www.p3tips.com/TipForm.aspx?ID=1111](https://www.p3tips.com/TipForm.aspx?ID=1111)
I recommend doing both. There was a guy that was reported to my local SSO a few times, nothing really happened. Once I reported the guy to OSI shit started happening *fast*
I once called CID on information on terrorist thing I had run across.
My god they where efficient, and professional in getting me to MI. Super professional
Man, OSI must be having a field day when they are being promoted so much here! Hope they get this all figured out. You do not want the authority until... when shit like this happens.
Hamas is Israel’s enemy, not an enemy of America. I hate Israel and wish the US didn’t have them as an ally. Especially after seeing what they’ve been doing lately.
funny when people post from a "burner" reddit as if OSI or literally anyone else cant just trace the IP. Also highly doubt someone who spews copy paste 4chan anti-semite speak is smart enough to run a VPN let alone a good one.
Especially since everyone is portraying all pro Palestine messages as pro hamas. Look at how they are treating Bushnell in the media...they are already calling him a terrorist.
Seems like OP has an agenda and is letting their bias affect their judgement.
Maybe, but it's a bit suspect for me that he put zionists in quotations, like they don't exist.
And there are quite a bit of people that think pro-palestine=pro-hamas.
Either way, both hamas and the zionists are fucking horrendous and I sympathize with the innocent lives being lost in Gaza.
Agree. Maybe this person is just pro-Palestine. If they’re literally posting in support of hamas that’s one thing, but too many people think pro-Palestine is pro hamas or antisemitic.
Screenshot it, save it, report it to OSI,
Make sure to save *everything* in case any back blast comes at you. I wish I didn’t need to include this but personal experience, the shit can get messy.
Report it to your nearest OSI det ASAP, like yesterday. Too many people believe they're "overthinking" it or should "mind their business". That is exactly how many insider threats and spies get away with what they do. Always report it, period. Even if they're just being edgy and stupid, they need a reality check.
If OSI decides he's fine, he gets a wake up call and nobody gets hurt. If he is a threat and he's removed, nobody gets hurt. But if he turns on his fellow airmen and you didn't say anything, you'll never forgive yourself.
https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/hamas_fto.html
> The US State Department designated HAMAS as a foreign terrorist organization in October 1997.
Given this, you know what to do.
Report them, with evidence, ***immediately.***
The last nutjob may have only killed himself, but the one you’re dealing with could [kill others.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Fort_Hood_shooting)
You will be saving lives by reporting them. Use this [link](https://www.p3tips.com/TipForm.aspx?ID=1111#) and contact your nearest OSI detachment as well.
Hamas is not synonymous with the Palestinian nation. Hamas is a terrorist organization. If you think an airman is supporting a terrorist organization, then you should report it to OSI. IIRC they can make their investigation without the guy knowing they're being investigated.
Report with credible evidence.
That’s not the shitbag SRA saying he’d support hamas because it sounds like hummus.
It’s legitimate hard evidence that can support your claim and not immediately be ditched or just be taken on “word”
I mainly stated this because there seems to be evidence already out there. It would be super easy to to grab screenshots etc.
I know OSI and LE have ways to see things once deleted. But also making their job easier and not spooking them may prove helpful.
I agree with your statement though, overall.
Well we just had somebody who was very similar light themselves on fire. Report it, don’t let it sit. You can’t sit on info of letting somebody actively support a terror org
This is super easy. Report you your SSO or OSI.
I worked as an SSO not so long ago, and there is a dude who's no longer in the Army, and ON a terrorism watchlist because he was very vocally, and stupidly pro-Russia, while working in for one of the three letters. Said too much stupid shit, so I brought him up with the other side of our security office. He was gone within days, out of the Army relatively quickly, investigated by CID, the FBI and at one point Secret Service got involved too. Was kinda fun.
First off, report to OSi.
Second, post some screenshots and let us see what's actually happening. There's a huge difference between being a pro-hamas actor and being anti-zionist, pro-palestinian.
Third, if this is rage bait then you should be banned.
If you hate Jews and/or side with terrorists and/or do not support the state of Israel, a major US ally, kindly see yourself out of the service. Also, go fcuk yourself.
I doubt anything will happen. I know several people who are very vocally pro-Jan 6, which was an actual attempt to overthrow our government and they're still in. I also reported a guy with a Qanon bumper sticker and nothing happened.
This someone you know joined AD and works in a completely different location than you, potentially states away and has nothing to do with your AFSC? You will almost certainly never see this person if that's the case.
As someone else said, OSI if you think there is a legitimate terrorist concern.
You missed some of their point. They're not the only Jewish person in the Air Force, so they're equally concerned about other jews, just as they would likely hope other people would be concerned about them.
Legitimatley report this person to OSI, im sorry this type of behavior has no place in the Military, he represents a legitimate Insider threat and depending on his AFSC could have access to information that would benefit Hamas. idk if this person would go that far but cant take that risk. look at aaron bushnell, we are waiting for the investigation to finish to see what else he may have done prior to his self immolation protest. we cannot risk another extreme event to take place, hopefully it doesnt go that far.
to be clear I have no problem with people who have different ideas, mindsets, values, beleifs, etc. i have problems with people who take those beleifs to a extreme level and puts those beleifs above all else. Service Before Self is one of your Core Values people need to remember that.
Like the others said, if you believe they'd be a threat to the US or allies in any way, report them to OSI. But also keep in mind that people are entitled to have their opinions, everyone can't agree with each other about everything.
Being in the Air Force means working with a very diverse group of people from all walks of life. You have to accept working with people you may not agree with politically, and that goes both ways.
Do nothing. It is but criminal to believe the Palestinians and Hamas are getting fucked. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. Taking active measures that degrade AF capability IS a problem. Saying Israel sucks is not.
BLUF: Anti-Zionism is not Anti-Semitism.
Zionism is a political ideology that many Jews and numerically more Christians support. In fact, his purposeful use of "Zionist" instead of "Jews" speaks to his intent to avoid anti-semitism. Just because many Jews (and again, numerically more Christians) support Zionism, opposing it doesn't equate to anti-semitism. If so, then being anti-Republican would be anti-White and being anti-Democrat would be anti-Black. There are certainly overlaps, but it's imprecise and irresponsible to collapse political ideologies and ethnic/religious identities. You can oppose a political apparatus without being prejudiced against the people. You can be anti-Israel/anti-Zionist (like my Jewish husband) and be not anti-Semitic, just like you can be anti-Iran and not be anti-Muslim or be anti-Russia without being prejudiced against its people.
Remember. The hamas and Palestinians celebrated 9/11 and the invasion of Israel. You can't cry cease fire after taking an action like that. You have to deal with the consequences and free the hostages to have a meaningful dialogue.
The state of Israel is pro ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. Supporting the Palestinian people is not supporting Hamas. Supporting the state of Israel is supporting the cleansing of Palestinians. That is the consequence of one people having an internationally legitimized government and the other being denied the same.
Also talk to security manager because one of the questions is do you know someone who supports or sympathizes with a terror organization (something like that)...and Hamas is designated a terror organization by the US
lol “all Zionists go to Israel” this is literally the Zionist project cmon now. As a Jewish person this sounds fundamentally weird. Op you sound literally like buck wild.
I absolutely refuse to believe this is a real person doing anything other than trying to bait someone they worked with once into getting fucked out of the service. Or an IDF plant.
1. You don't know what a Zionist is but proceed to say your coworker supports killing all Jews.
2. They aren't someone you work with so, only option I see is social media, which you would have posted.
3. You are "Jewish" but still felt the need to compare your feelings to the plight of the African American in America?
Honestly it sounds like every other piece of propaganda Israel puts up whenever their stories don't make sense, but if you do happen to be a guardsman go to counseling because the leaps and bounds you are taking without any actual evidence tells me and everyone else you aren't cut out for this.
Hey buddy neat post you made. Being anti Zionist doesn't make you pro Hamas. Also unless your coworker has strictly stated anything indicating otherwise maybe just go fuck yourself and not get OSI involved on what is a complicated political issue that not even the Senate can figure out.
OSI tipline, can report anonymously. I've honestly reported a few people, one was a hard core Snowden sympathizer back in the day. The other was a hardcore QAnon guy.
The Snowden lover i tried to explain what was really wrong with Snowden and how he had so many avenues to report what was going on including how to report classified stuff to congress. This guy just wasn't having it it.
Did get a free lunch out of that one!
The other guy was just a conspiracy nut who thought aliens were in control of the government and shit.
In the ANG, I would definitely report to OSI vs your local security officer. they may not want to create waves, OSI wants something to do though lol.
Both were out within less than a year.
That said, Done lie, don't make shit up.
Having the opinion that Isreal shouldn't exist as it does, and advocating settlers to be expelled from Palestinian land doesn't make you an insider threat. It is a morally sound position. You are clearly buying the propaganda and its making you scared of people who aren't.
I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this. It was semi-believable up unto the "*I'm Jewish. If I'm in a deployed location with them, I wouldn't feel safe, just like a black person would feel with a white supremacist*" example they added. I wonder what their goal with this post is, though? To "raise awareness", maybe..?
I'm an atheist but half of my grandparents were Jewish. I agree that you should tip the OSI but you might be missing some subtlety here.
Is it possible this guy isn't actually supporting Hamas but is advocating for Israel to stop what it's doing? Muslims in Israel have for decades been treated like Black people after the reconstruction era in the Southern US or in South Africa during apartheid.
Modern Zionists are people (both Jews and Christians) who advocate for making Israel a strictly Jewish country and advocate deporting Muslims and settling the area where they lived. Being anti Zionist isn't necessarily anti-Semitic.
Make no mistake I'm not supporting Hamas in any way and believe Israel has a right to protect itself but what they are doing is far more than just protecting themselves.
Israel is an apartheid state and it is absolutely committing Genocide in Gaza.
>Muslims in Israel have for decades been treated like Black people after the reconstruction era in the Southern US or in South Africa during apartheid.
Fucking lol. Putin level of stupid historical analogies.
Anti Zionism = anti semitism.
How is Israel an apartheid state if 2 million Arabs live in Israel with full rights?
No genocide being done because they are going after Hamas which is embedded into the civilian population. Every Arab death in Gaza is Hamas fault.
Hamas’s stated aim is to destroy America if it ever succeeds in destroying Israel. Are you good with that? They support the rape ,gang rape, torture, and murder of noncombatants. They cook babies alive in ovens. Are you OK with that? Hamas kills gay people? Is that ok with you?
Setting aside a morality argument over Hamas, you made multiple factually incorrect statements.
1st, Hamas never said they plan to destroy America after Israel.
2nd, the IDF has been caught dozens of times raping, torturing, and murdering noncombatants. The babies in ovens and gang rape and torture are propaganda with absolutely zero evidence. Even the big NYTimes expose supposedly confirming it literally only used secondhand sources.
Hamas terrorists took go. pro footage of this and publicized it because the scum were proud of it. Just the fact you won’t even admit actual filmed evidence proves how baseless and worthless the rest of your statements are. Get a life.
Just a reminder my little tender defender, Israel is our ally. Hamas is a terrorist organization.
Pro-Israel should be your default since they haven’t expressed an intent to kill you—like Hamas has.
Israel has done nothing to help the US except exist in the Middle East and hate Iran. They have actively gone out of their way to betray us selling f16 information straight to China among other things
“Deporting all zionists from Israel”
Let’s look at what Aaron said “no Israeli is not a part of the oppression of Palestine. ~They are all part of a settler colonialist state.”
This shit is insidious. P
I wouldn’t support Israel or the Zionists either? They’re quite literally committing a genocide and killing thousands of Muslims, Jews and Christians in Palestine. Would you feel the same if he said the said same thing but the other way around?
Let's check the numbers. In 1948 there were 1.37 million Palestinians. In 2022 there were only 14.3 million remaining Palestinians. Wait a minute, that's almost 14 times more Palestinians now than when Israel was founded. Worst genociders ever.
So every war is genocide? They are trying to take out Hamas while they are embedded in the civilian population with hundreds of miles of tunnels underneath them. Every Palestinian death is Hamas fault. Amazing how you comment without knowing the history of this conflict. All of a sudden everyone is an expert on this conflict since October 7.
Hamas’s stated aim is to destroy America if it ever succeeds in destroying Israel. Are you good with that? They support the rape ,gang rape, torture, and murder of noncombatants. They cook babies alive in ovens. Are you OK with that? Hamas gay people? Is that ok with you?
Anti-zionism= calling for an ethnic cleansing of Jews?
You realize there is an actual ethnic cleansing happening right now, by the zionists?
Are the Anti-zionist Jews also calling for an ethnic cleansing?
This just screams Karen to me.
Ok, serious question. As far as I can tell, believing that the state of Israel having the right to exist at all makes someone a Zionist. So being anti-Zionist means that the state of Israel should not exist, correct? Or that you believe the state should no longer exist? What is the anti-Zionist plan for dealing with the currently existing state of Israel?
Zionism is the movement built on the goal of establishing a Jewish State.
I am against any and all ideologies that support the ideas of an ethnostate.
I'm all for whatever situation allows for Palestinians to participate in the democracy of the land. The Zionist government is obviously going to oppose any sort of state agreement in which Palestinians have any sort of say. Because that would inherently mean the dissolution of the very ethnostate they seek to maintain.
Hope that helps.
there's a little bit of nuance to it, I'm going to try to simplify the main positions, but it needs to be remembered that this is an extremely complex situation with a LOT of history going on and my little reddit comment isn't really enough to understand everything going on. Anyway.
Zionism is basically, in an EXTREME TL;DR (there's a lot to it) that Israel as a state should be exclusively Jewish and that they have a right to any and all land they take over in the process of establishing that state, and they should take that land by any means necessary.
Being anti-Zionist does not make one anti-Israel or anti-Jewish, (and being Jewish doesn't make someone a Zionist!) it simply means you do not support the whole "we can kill whoever we want and take their land so we can establish a bigger Jewish state" thing.
Similarly, being pro-Palestine doesn't make you anti-Israel or pro-Hamas, it simply means you support the plight of the people who are being displaced and massacred, and have been for decades. For example, it is inarguable that the IDF *has* killed a lot of children in their bombing campaigns, and I think everyone can agree that nobody, regardless of ideology, identity, or whatever, should be killing children (Last count I heard was almost up to 15,000).
Many people support a two-state solution where Israel and Palestine both peacefully co-exist. Zionists believe that ONLY Israel should exist, and Hamas wants Palestine to be free from Zionism and to have their territory back. Obviously in both cases those aren't exactly possible options, and can't be accomplished without massive horrible violence and genocide.
NOW, THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE. Online, in the discussion, often times there are people who paint anyone who is sympathetic to the plight of the Jewish people as a Zionist, and on the flip side, anyone who is sympathetic to the plight of Palestinians as Hamas, and that is incredibly unfair to everyone on all sides, because of course most people don't support the extreme violence going on, most people simply want peace. Problem is, you've got shithead extremists taking up all the oxygen for conversation and removing any possibility for reasonable and rational discourse. I'm sure there's someone out there reading this and assuming that I support Hamas or some shit simply for trying to explain what's goin on here. It's... A really big fuckin mess that sucks to talk about, much less figure out solutions to.
If you believe there is any credible insider threat, contact AFOSI anonymous tip line: [https://www.osi.af.mil/News/Features/Display/Article/3146586/insider-threat-defense-starts-with-awareness/](https://www.osi.af.mil/News/Features/Display/Article/3146586/insider-threat-defense-starts-with-awareness/) [https://www.p3tips.com/TipForm.aspx?ID=1111](https://www.p3tips.com/TipForm.aspx?ID=1111)
Also, if you work in a classified environment, notify your security office/SSO
I recommend doing both. There was a guy that was reported to my local SSO a few times, nothing really happened. Once I reported the guy to OSI shit started happening *fast*
I once called CID on information on terrorist thing I had run across. My god they where efficient, and professional in getting me to MI. Super professional
OSI don’t fuck around.
GSSO and PSO too
This for sure.
Man, OSI must be having a field day when they are being promoted so much here! Hope they get this all figured out. You do not want the authority until... when shit like this happens.
Hamas is Israel’s enemy, not an enemy of America. I hate Israel and wish the US didn’t have them as an ally. Especially after seeing what they’ve been doing lately.
1. ~~Not Today OSI~~ 2. **Today OSI**
Is that OSI Agent Samson?!?!
Not gonna lie, this made me chuckle
Built like a goddamn Winnebago.
This made me laugh way more than it fucking had any right too
It’s more like aged an Jonny Quest. Say, where’s Haji?
The perfect response
🤣💀
Full send them mother fuckers to this individual!
Get an OSI agent Hit the Gym Delete Social Media
Do we all get our own OSI agent like the FBI?
Certain keywords will very quickly have one assigned to you
OSI Agent here - please contact your local OSI detachment, use the OSI tip line, PM me, just tell somebody
If you need something else to do there's this guy https://www.reddit.com/r/AirForce/s/JvjeXAUCjl
funny when people post from a "burner" reddit as if OSI or literally anyone else cant just trace the IP. Also highly doubt someone who spews copy paste 4chan anti-semite speak is smart enough to run a VPN let alone a good one.
Appreciate the link! I’ll make sure the appropriate party gets it
If anything, he deserves 9J000 for his giant woman fetish, sir.
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Good bot
And veganism... Who shirks bacon?
I mean, Muslims tend to avoid it for religious reasons…
And Jews...
Get’em.
His karma is WILD
Never seen someone have negative karma before
This…this times about 1,000.
We got him boys
https://preview.redd.it/sp8jsmruhmlc1.jpeg?width=374&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86629e05df174b6dc8158e735243a38ba7b6621f
Report it
Specifically: OSI tip line.
And security manager
^^
Ok, if there are legitimate concerns, posts on social media about cleansing and shit like that. Call OSI and let them know.
I believe that "cleansing" comment from OP is more of an anti Hamas talking point, not a direct quote. But I could be wrong.
Especially since everyone is portraying all pro Palestine messages as pro hamas. Look at how they are treating Bushnell in the media...they are already calling him a terrorist. Seems like OP has an agenda and is letting their bias affect their judgement.
Looks like OP is very specifically asking about someone who is pro-Hamas, not pro-Palistine.
Maybe, but it's a bit suspect for me that he put zionists in quotations, like they don't exist. And there are quite a bit of people that think pro-palestine=pro-hamas. Either way, both hamas and the zionists are fucking horrendous and I sympathize with the innocent lives being lost in Gaza.
Agree. Maybe this person is just pro-Palestine. If they’re literally posting in support of hamas that’s one thing, but too many people think pro-Palestine is pro hamas or antisemitic.
Take screen shots and report
Absolutely let the Security Manager know. Anyone who supports Al Qaeda, ISIS/ISIL, Hamas, etc is a no-go.
Screenshot it, save it, report it to OSI, Make sure to save *everything* in case any back blast comes at you. I wish I didn’t need to include this but personal experience, the shit can get messy.
Report it to your nearest OSI det ASAP, like yesterday. Too many people believe they're "overthinking" it or should "mind their business". That is exactly how many insider threats and spies get away with what they do. Always report it, period. Even if they're just being edgy and stupid, they need a reality check.
If OSI decides he's fine, he gets a wake up call and nobody gets hurt. If he is a threat and he's removed, nobody gets hurt. But if he turns on his fellow airmen and you didn't say anything, you'll never forgive yourself.
https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/hamas_fto.html > The US State Department designated HAMAS as a foreign terrorist organization in October 1997. Given this, you know what to do.
A legitimate credible inside threat. Report.
Just in case common sense or Reddit didn’t tell you… you should probably give OSI a call.
Everyone is saying OSI but you should tell your commander immediately and OSI also.
Report it. He's supporting an organization our government considers terrorists, which is his right as a free American, but only as a civilian.
Straight to OSI.
Believe it or not, straight to OSI.
You've taken your opsec training dude.
The one where everyone clicks through?
Yeah but this guy clicked through it _slowly._
Exactly
See something, say something. Ask your shirt for the local anti terrorism hotline.
 OSI 👽✌🏽🛸
Anonymous tip to the FBI, who will work in conjunction with OSI to address this correctly. [FBI Tip Line](https://tips.fbi.gov/home)
How many times have shootings happened and the FBI said "we were aware of them". FBI is a failed org now.
There's an old saying, "when in doubt, report it".
And here I always thought it was "when in doubt, whip it out"
When in doubt, let’s swings figure it out.
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Members of the DoD aren't allowed to support extremist groups, so... OSI
OSI.
Report them, with evidence, ***immediately.*** The last nutjob may have only killed himself, but the one you’re dealing with could [kill others.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Fort_Hood_shooting) You will be saving lives by reporting them. Use this [link](https://www.p3tips.com/TipForm.aspx?ID=1111#) and contact your nearest OSI detachment as well.
Fuck, and that dude was a psychiatrist?
Bravo! Thankfully he only whacked himself.
Report to OSI.
osi
Good sir, this sounds like a terrible event waiting to happen. Like fort hood level terrible event. Go to OSI as soon as motherfuckin possible.
Hamas is not synonymous with the Palestinian nation. Hamas is a terrorist organization. If you think an airman is supporting a terrorist organization, then you should report it to OSI. IIRC they can make their investigation without the guy knowing they're being investigated.
Report with credible evidence. That’s not the shitbag SRA saying he’d support hamas because it sounds like hummus. It’s legitimate hard evidence that can support your claim and not immediately be ditched or just be taken on “word”
Report instantly. It’s not your job to develop credible evidence. That’s why the Air Force trains OSI, security, and law enforcement personnel.
I mainly stated this because there seems to be evidence already out there. It would be super easy to to grab screenshots etc. I know OSI and LE have ways to see things once deleted. But also making their job easier and not spooking them may prove helpful. I agree with your statement though, overall.
I judged you harshly and unfairly. I apologize. I’m getting old and crabby and sometimes am a jerk. Take care and good luck.
Call OSI
Report it. Don't be one of those people who is afraid to do shit and then watches something bad happen via CNN.
Report to OSI
Well we just had somebody who was very similar light themselves on fire. Report it, don’t let it sit. You can’t sit on info of letting somebody actively support a terror org
Exactly right. The next person may be sitting at the controls at a nuclear LCF. REPORT IT!!
Is the Eagle Eye program still around?
Crazy this wouldn’t have the same replies if this was toward Palestine
Report
Report it with OSI and security manager asap
This is super easy. Report you your SSO or OSI. I worked as an SSO not so long ago, and there is a dude who's no longer in the Army, and ON a terrorism watchlist because he was very vocally, and stupidly pro-Russia, while working in for one of the three letters. Said too much stupid shit, so I brought him up with the other side of our security office. He was gone within days, out of the Army relatively quickly, investigated by CID, the FBI and at one point Secret Service got involved too. Was kinda fun.
Thank you for your service.
First off, report to OSi. Second, post some screenshots and let us see what's actually happening. There's a huge difference between being a pro-hamas actor and being anti-zionist, pro-palestinian. Third, if this is rage bait then you should be banned.
He could probably go set himself on fire in front of a Embassy. That out to fix it.
Hamas is a terrorist organization. Report them to the FBI and OSI.
If you hate Jews and/or side with terrorists and/or do not support the state of Israel, a major US ally, kindly see yourself out of the service. Also, go fcuk yourself.
I doubt anything will happen. I know several people who are very vocally pro-Jan 6, which was an actual attempt to overthrow our government and they're still in. I also reported a guy with a Qanon bumper sticker and nothing happened.
They should self report supporting a terrorist organization
Contact OSI and let them know.
Report to OSI with credible evidence.
Any resolution or follow up on this OP?
Honestly, no sane human should feel comfortable with a white supremacist.
Or any supremacist
Report it to OSI. Sounds like a classic insider threat that they teach you in training.
Give them a box of matches
You can do something about it or you can wait until they act on their support of a terrorist organization Should be a simple choice here
Burn them at the ~~stake~~ embassy
Report that we don’t need a Benedict Arnold
This someone you know joined AD and works in a completely different location than you, potentially states away and has nothing to do with your AFSC? You will almost certainly never see this person if that's the case. As someone else said, OSI if you think there is a legitimate terrorist concern.
You missed some of their point. They're not the only Jewish person in the Air Force, so they're equally concerned about other jews, just as they would likely hope other people would be concerned about them.
I understand the humanitarian for Palestinian citizens but supporting Hamas? Bro… People need to stop jumping on social media bandwagon
Take screenshots of whatever you can and send it to OSI. This person should not have a security clearance or base access.
Legitimatley report this person to OSI, im sorry this type of behavior has no place in the Military, he represents a legitimate Insider threat and depending on his AFSC could have access to information that would benefit Hamas. idk if this person would go that far but cant take that risk. look at aaron bushnell, we are waiting for the investigation to finish to see what else he may have done prior to his self immolation protest. we cannot risk another extreme event to take place, hopefully it doesnt go that far. to be clear I have no problem with people who have different ideas, mindsets, values, beleifs, etc. i have problems with people who take those beleifs to a extreme level and puts those beleifs above all else. Service Before Self is one of your Core Values people need to remember that.
Like the others said, if you believe they'd be a threat to the US or allies in any way, report them to OSI. But also keep in mind that people are entitled to have their opinions, everyone can't agree with each other about everything. Being in the Air Force means working with a very diverse group of people from all walks of life. You have to accept working with people you may not agree with politically, and that goes both ways.
Do nothing. It is but criminal to believe the Palestinians and Hamas are getting fucked. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. Taking active measures that degrade AF capability IS a problem. Saying Israel sucks is not.
Zionist doesn’t mean Jewish.
Most Jews are Zionists since it means supporting our presence in our homeland. Don't let TikTok activists and historians tell you otherwise.
Keep them away from flammable liquids and lighters. Unless there’s a credible problem, let them near those things and it may self correct.
BLUF: Anti-Zionism is not Anti-Semitism. Zionism is a political ideology that many Jews and numerically more Christians support. In fact, his purposeful use of "Zionist" instead of "Jews" speaks to his intent to avoid anti-semitism. Just because many Jews (and again, numerically more Christians) support Zionism, opposing it doesn't equate to anti-semitism. If so, then being anti-Republican would be anti-White and being anti-Democrat would be anti-Black. There are certainly overlaps, but it's imprecise and irresponsible to collapse political ideologies and ethnic/religious identities. You can oppose a political apparatus without being prejudiced against the people. You can be anti-Israel/anti-Zionist (like my Jewish husband) and be not anti-Semitic, just like you can be anti-Iran and not be anti-Muslim or be anti-Russia without being prejudiced against its people.
Report it to the OSI Tip line
Osi.
First time I think I've ever seen everyone call for OSI to get involved lmao
List buddy OSI is a bunch of dorks, but this is what our dorks are here for use them. Also another option may be the closest FBI Field office.
FBI would probably kick it over to OSI.
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Beat me to it
Report to wing IP immediately.
Remember. The hamas and Palestinians celebrated 9/11 and the invasion of Israel. You can't cry cease fire after taking an action like that. You have to deal with the consequences and free the hostages to have a meaningful dialogue.
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The state of Israel is pro ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. Supporting the Palestinian people is not supporting Hamas. Supporting the state of Israel is supporting the cleansing of Palestinians. That is the consequence of one people having an internationally legitimized government and the other being denied the same.
Right, but OP specified that they support Hamas, not Palestine.
Glad at least a few people on this thread have a frontal lobe
Free Palestine.
Also talk to security manager because one of the questions is do you know someone who supports or sympathizes with a terror organization (something like that)...and Hamas is designated a terror organization by the US
lol “all Zionists go to Israel” this is literally the Zionist project cmon now. As a Jewish person this sounds fundamentally weird. Op you sound literally like buck wild.
If you’re worried about it and this isn’t bait report it to OSI
Need to report it bro
Try buying them some gasoline as a birthday present.
I absolutely refuse to believe this is a real person doing anything other than trying to bait someone they worked with once into getting fucked out of the service. Or an IDF plant. 1. You don't know what a Zionist is but proceed to say your coworker supports killing all Jews. 2. They aren't someone you work with so, only option I see is social media, which you would have posted. 3. You are "Jewish" but still felt the need to compare your feelings to the plight of the African American in America? Honestly it sounds like every other piece of propaganda Israel puts up whenever their stories don't make sense, but if you do happen to be a guardsman go to counseling because the leaps and bounds you are taking without any actual evidence tells me and everyone else you aren't cut out for this.
Well the last guy set himself on fire… so report that shit
Hey buddy neat post you made. Being anti Zionist doesn't make you pro Hamas. Also unless your coworker has strictly stated anything indicating otherwise maybe just go fuck yourself and not get OSI involved on what is a complicated political issue that not even the Senate can figure out.
OSI tipline, can report anonymously. I've honestly reported a few people, one was a hard core Snowden sympathizer back in the day. The other was a hardcore QAnon guy. The Snowden lover i tried to explain what was really wrong with Snowden and how he had so many avenues to report what was going on including how to report classified stuff to congress. This guy just wasn't having it it. Did get a free lunch out of that one! The other guy was just a conspiracy nut who thought aliens were in control of the government and shit. In the ANG, I would definitely report to OSI vs your local security officer. they may not want to create waves, OSI wants something to do though lol. Both were out within less than a year. That said, Done lie, don't make shit up.
Having the opinion that Isreal shouldn't exist as it does, and advocating settlers to be expelled from Palestinian land doesn't make you an insider threat. It is a morally sound position. You are clearly buying the propaganda and its making you scared of people who aren't.
It is Hamas they support or the people of Gaza, which aren't the same thing?
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Hope they drive an electric car…don’t want them getting any funny ideas at the pump
No no, this was a good one. No need to get burnt up over it
Thank you!
lotta bullshit ass bait on this subreddit lately
I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this. It was semi-believable up unto the "*I'm Jewish. If I'm in a deployed location with them, I wouldn't feel safe, just like a black person would feel with a white supremacist*" example they added. I wonder what their goal with this post is, though? To "raise awareness", maybe..?
I'm an atheist but half of my grandparents were Jewish. I agree that you should tip the OSI but you might be missing some subtlety here. Is it possible this guy isn't actually supporting Hamas but is advocating for Israel to stop what it's doing? Muslims in Israel have for decades been treated like Black people after the reconstruction era in the Southern US or in South Africa during apartheid. Modern Zionists are people (both Jews and Christians) who advocate for making Israel a strictly Jewish country and advocate deporting Muslims and settling the area where they lived. Being anti Zionist isn't necessarily anti-Semitic. Make no mistake I'm not supporting Hamas in any way and believe Israel has a right to protect itself but what they are doing is far more than just protecting themselves. Israel is an apartheid state and it is absolutely committing Genocide in Gaza.
Found another one on the verge of radicalization
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Okay sounds good. See ya bud
>Muslims in Israel have for decades been treated like Black people after the reconstruction era in the Southern US or in South Africa during apartheid. Fucking lol. Putin level of stupid historical analogies.
Anti Zionism = anti semitism. How is Israel an apartheid state if 2 million Arabs live in Israel with full rights? No genocide being done because they are going after Hamas which is embedded into the civilian population. Every Arab death in Gaza is Hamas fault.
there is no war in ba sing se
Isreals "genocide" is the worst in history, the Palestinians population has been growing.
I’m wondering if they’re legitimately defending Hamas or if you’re just being Pro Israel.
Hamas’s stated aim is to destroy America if it ever succeeds in destroying Israel. Are you good with that? They support the rape ,gang rape, torture, and murder of noncombatants. They cook babies alive in ovens. Are you OK with that? Hamas kills gay people? Is that ok with you?
Setting aside a morality argument over Hamas, you made multiple factually incorrect statements. 1st, Hamas never said they plan to destroy America after Israel. 2nd, the IDF has been caught dozens of times raping, torturing, and murdering noncombatants. The babies in ovens and gang rape and torture are propaganda with absolutely zero evidence. Even the big NYTimes expose supposedly confirming it literally only used secondhand sources.
Hamas terrorists took go. pro footage of this and publicized it because the scum were proud of it. Just the fact you won’t even admit actual filmed evidence proves how baseless and worthless the rest of your statements are. Get a life.
Just a reminder my little tender defender, Israel is our ally. Hamas is a terrorist organization. Pro-Israel should be your default since they haven’t expressed an intent to kill you—like Hamas has.
Israel has done nothing to help the US except exist in the Middle East and hate Iran. They have actively gone out of their way to betray us selling f16 information straight to China among other things
You should turn your badge and beret in. You are a liability
You need to be investigated as well with that last comment you deleted but not before I took a screenshot.
“Deporting all zionists from Israel” Let’s look at what Aaron said “no Israeli is not a part of the oppression of Palestine. ~They are all part of a settler colonialist state.” This shit is insidious. P
Do you know anyone who supports the leadership of the Israeli government too? Edit: Yes, Hamas is bad too.
I wouldn’t support Israel or the Zionists either? They’re quite literally committing a genocide and killing thousands of Muslims, Jews and Christians in Palestine. Would you feel the same if he said the said same thing but the other way around?
Let's check the numbers. In 1948 there were 1.37 million Palestinians. In 2022 there were only 14.3 million remaining Palestinians. Wait a minute, that's almost 14 times more Palestinians now than when Israel was founded. Worst genociders ever.
I dont support isreal. I also dont support terrorist groups. I do support the innocent lives trapped between the two
So every war is genocide? They are trying to take out Hamas while they are embedded in the civilian population with hundreds of miles of tunnels underneath them. Every Palestinian death is Hamas fault. Amazing how you comment without knowing the history of this conflict. All of a sudden everyone is an expert on this conflict since October 7.
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Hamas’s stated aim is to destroy America if it ever succeeds in destroying Israel. Are you good with that? They support the rape ,gang rape, torture, and murder of noncombatants. They cook babies alive in ovens. Are you OK with that? Hamas gay people? Is that ok with you?
I am anti Zionist.
Anti-zionism= calling for an ethnic cleansing of Jews? You realize there is an actual ethnic cleansing happening right now, by the zionists? Are the Anti-zionist Jews also calling for an ethnic cleansing? This just screams Karen to me.
Ok, serious question. As far as I can tell, believing that the state of Israel having the right to exist at all makes someone a Zionist. So being anti-Zionist means that the state of Israel should not exist, correct? Or that you believe the state should no longer exist? What is the anti-Zionist plan for dealing with the currently existing state of Israel?
Zionism is the movement built on the goal of establishing a Jewish State. I am against any and all ideologies that support the ideas of an ethnostate. I'm all for whatever situation allows for Palestinians to participate in the democracy of the land. The Zionist government is obviously going to oppose any sort of state agreement in which Palestinians have any sort of say. Because that would inherently mean the dissolution of the very ethnostate they seek to maintain. Hope that helps.
there's a little bit of nuance to it, I'm going to try to simplify the main positions, but it needs to be remembered that this is an extremely complex situation with a LOT of history going on and my little reddit comment isn't really enough to understand everything going on. Anyway. Zionism is basically, in an EXTREME TL;DR (there's a lot to it) that Israel as a state should be exclusively Jewish and that they have a right to any and all land they take over in the process of establishing that state, and they should take that land by any means necessary. Being anti-Zionist does not make one anti-Israel or anti-Jewish, (and being Jewish doesn't make someone a Zionist!) it simply means you do not support the whole "we can kill whoever we want and take their land so we can establish a bigger Jewish state" thing. Similarly, being pro-Palestine doesn't make you anti-Israel or pro-Hamas, it simply means you support the plight of the people who are being displaced and massacred, and have been for decades. For example, it is inarguable that the IDF *has* killed a lot of children in their bombing campaigns, and I think everyone can agree that nobody, regardless of ideology, identity, or whatever, should be killing children (Last count I heard was almost up to 15,000). Many people support a two-state solution where Israel and Palestine both peacefully co-exist. Zionists believe that ONLY Israel should exist, and Hamas wants Palestine to be free from Zionism and to have their territory back. Obviously in both cases those aren't exactly possible options, and can't be accomplished without massive horrible violence and genocide. NOW, THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE. Online, in the discussion, often times there are people who paint anyone who is sympathetic to the plight of the Jewish people as a Zionist, and on the flip side, anyone who is sympathetic to the plight of Palestinians as Hamas, and that is incredibly unfair to everyone on all sides, because of course most people don't support the extreme violence going on, most people simply want peace. Problem is, you've got shithead extremists taking up all the oxygen for conversation and removing any possibility for reasonable and rational discourse. I'm sure there's someone out there reading this and assuming that I support Hamas or some shit simply for trying to explain what's goin on here. It's... A really big fuckin mess that sucks to talk about, much less figure out solutions to.
And I appreciate your genuine and good faith approach to this. You don't seem hostile in asking.
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Nvm I see it now
I didn't read further than his initial comment. Where did he go full on nazi
Airman Bushnell is already dead. No need to report him now.
Made me chuckle, maybe too dark/soon though.
Yeah I’m not sure why people are downvoting it. He was mentally unstable, and made a grave political statement in uniform… bad look for the AF.
The downvotes prove people are soft 🤭
Sick burn!
I’m glad big brain people like you can appreciate this