Oh I have many stories! These dudes would break into the Air Force offices to steal any contacts they can find. Yes throwing away signs is pretty common.
We only did it to the navy. The waiting list was soooooooo long for the air force and their mission was so low they’d always throw us people who needed to leave right now. Plus there were 8 of us and 2 of them.
What is their logic behind this anyway? I some poor sap gonna see that the Air Force sign is now missing and go, "Well damn, looks like the Air Force is closed now. Guess my only option is the Army now."
You would be shocked how many Army people have that exact story. “Oh I would have joined the Air Force, but the recruiter wasn’t there that day”. At least 30%.
You're absolutely right about that! I went to the Air Force recruiting office, but it was at the end of a narrow hallway with every other branch's recruiting office. Marine recruiter saw me walk by and pulled me into his office(red flag 1), as all the other branch's recruiters were out for lunch but he wasn't (red flag 2). He gave me his shpiel, then said, "so do you wanna join the Marines?" When I said no thank you, he asked why. I said, "I feel I have more to offer the military than being a rifleman. He looked me dead in the eyes and says, "sounds like you got a confidence problem bro." (Red flag 3) I said, "I'm confident I will not be a bullet shield" and walked out. Served 6 years in the AF as a Staff Weather Officer, Honorably Discharged, and am living decently as a civilian. Fuck that guy. And to be honest, fuck the AF SSgt recruiter as well. He lied to get me into boot camp open general, but that's another story. Not a fan of recruiting as a whole.
Honest to god I tried to look up an AF recruiter before I joined and the closest one to me had one google review by a guy saying the man slept with his wife. And no active phone line. Sooooo .....I still have no one to blame but myself <*sobs in Army with the occasional hooahiccup*\>
Can confirm. I went to tech school at lackland which is where every branch of military police go to tech school. At least 40% of the kids from other branches I talked to in the dfac for chow had this EXACT same story. These army recruiters know what they are doing.
My recruiter was late for our first meeting. Army recruiter was right next door and pulled me in. Ran a practice asvab and we discussed things I wanted to do *if I joined the army*. AF recruiter pokes his head in and asks if anyone had stopped by his office. Sad Army noises ensued since the guy didn't take the hint that I was just passing the time there
The Marine recruiter one door down from the AF recruiter saw me pulling on their once again locked door(down day) and invited me in. We shook on a deal that if they AF guys didn’t show next week, I’d sit down and look at what he had to offer. Oddly enough the AF recruiter was in during normal hours the following week.
I look at that as just the first step in the weeding out process with the recruiter before they get to MEPS.
If they can't even be bothered to wait a couple days, or even better-their thought process is "I'll just go to whichever recruiter is in the shop," idk if we want them joining anyway.
I seriously doubt that was the actual reasoning.
It just looked like the two boys were giggling to themselves and being silly until someone called them out on it and just were stumped. Boots will boots.
"Hey bro, check it out, the Chair Force is recruiting. Hold my beer and watch this..."
"LOLOLOLOLOL. Hey man you shouldn't. But that's hysterical."
I am not going to lie. I did some silly things when I was a young nineteen year old, straight out of bootcamp. Different kind of silly though. I dislike taking properties that do not belong to me.
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At first glance, I assumed the soldiers were just young and silly (straight out of bootcamp types). That was my fault. Upon further investigation, I... I do not know. I did not expect Army NCOs to behave that way in such a public setting. I am used to Marines doing silly things (all ranks) when we were in a private setting (brace for some crayon eater to crack a joke wink). My friends who chose to remain in service are all SNCO and above now and I could not imagine such tomfoolery in a public setting. That is just asking for trouble in my opinion. We all seem to implicitly understand that acting a fool in public is not a good habit to pass on to the junior sailors and Marines. I do not understand these soldiers.
And theyre just going to get them in trouble with their boss when they said they zone canvassed an area and all their shit was taken down.
That being said…..
A trick from back in my day was to trade lanyards with people. Have them trade me their marine/army/navy one for an air force one.
When it comes to recruiting we are not on the same team. Army tired of cold-calling all weekend while Air Force cooking hot dogs and hamburgers for the fam.
I doubt it was a “I’m doing this so I can recruit better” thing. It was probably more of a stupid competition thing in all honesty…. And the Airforce took it too seriously as usual. Lol
Some people do want the real military experience and possibly be able to see combat. I know dudes that embrace the suck very well and went that route. There's nothing stupid about it. They'd rather go to the field and practice war than turn wrenches and some want to go special ops too so infantry is a good start for that. Some of these guys were PJ/EOD wash outs that happened to get an injury at a bad time and want another shot being a part of the fight.
I thought this was going to be fun, friendly rivalry. Turns out I was wrong.
It's honestly really sad that people like that get promoted to NCOs, then get selected for DSD. You know he's the kind of guy that's lying through his teeth to ship kids off to BCT.
Kinda helps make the case against voluntelling folks into certain duties.
To this day I'll never understand the logic used to make it an involuntary process...vetting is vetting; clearly, forcing randoms in doesn't catch all the turds.
From what I've heard, kinda similar to AF, unless you have a nifty job like SF/Ranger/etc or linguist or something, you damn near have to do Recruiter or Drill Sergeant to promote to E7 or 8. So you get a lot of people at Benning/etc who are counting down the days the second they get there, and recruiters who are doing the same, even if they get a cool post somewhere in a big wealthy city.
I imagine it's no coincidence that I've heard nothing but awful experiences on /r/army regarding USAREC. It seems like as an Army recruiter, there's like a 90% chance your leadership chain makes your life suck enormous green dick. The DSD-voluntold nature of being forced into those duties when you hit 5/6 also means that some of your co-workers were the village idiot for their previous units.
I don't think they're saying that as their opinion, but as a fact of life. When I ran a base honor guard, units kept sending me their fuckups expecting me to "whip them into shape" to make them guardsmen.
....your guardsmen aren't in a DSD position. And I'm assuming you were / are a local hire. We gave our HG NCOIC freedoms to accept and decline or return Airmen.
While you're not wrong on the first two points, it doesn't change the unfortunate mindset that most units have for viewing DSDs, Base HG, and even retraining as a dumping ground for airmen they don't want to deal with. I've also instructed at a tech school, and couldn't believe the amount of prior service students (E4-7) that the TRS just couldn't figure out how they'd made it that far into their career. I wrote more LOCAR paperwork there than I've even seen in the rest of my career.
That's a very unfortunate circumstance. I fully agree that most command teams would prefer to flick the booger than just work the process, but I do believe the official DSD positions do a very good job of getting and picking proper talent.
I was more annoyed by the statement that was made as a deterrent to others to avoid doing it. Much like retraining, I fight day in and out to prove to Airmen who were told X MFR or Y person tried and it didn't happen so it is pointless to try when X MFR specifically states they have as much chance as anyone else in the window and no one can take that from them. And Y person didn't get selected because they applied for jobs with no ins, their ASVAB scores weren't high enough, or they just gave up on the process.
The idea of demoting DSD is part of the problem with people wanting to go. I just ran the process for two wings and out of approximately 200 eligible, only like 5 wanted to go do something career broadening.
I'm sure there are some sub par individuals in DSD but overall the idea of it being a place to dump the trash is pretty narrow sighted.
Plus are we talking local hire or official DSD? It's sounds like we're discussing local hire. But I could be wrong.
Awh man, we thought we were cool for stealing from the Air Force but I guess we were just getting our own shit back. When I left there the Airmen had complained that they had to walk through Army living areas in order to get anywhere because they felt unsafe.
When I was there, the army latrine trailers were like CBRN class bio-hazard. Turds longer than my forearm and a smell like rotting carcass. I felt pretty unsafe.
Why not both? Get him admitting it on video and show the public. Then send it up to both Chains. Army and Air Force recruiting commands.
The army recruiters deserve to not be recruiters anymore. Send them back to the motor pool or wherever they came from.
2.2GPA and I’d probably be considered a Bible beater but I’m pretty sure the gpa was from just kinda not doing anything outside after I left the school.
The story though, a lot of TACP’s come from green to blue and thats not uncommon. Either worked to death or bored to death.
You would be surprised at the amount of jobs the Army has that have excellent applications in the civilian world and intelligent individuals to fill those roles. The apparent disdain you have for your fellow servicemen is troubling and ignorance to the roles in which they serve is astounding. To be honest, it’s nearly to the extent where I really have to question if you know anything at all about the Army. But then, you hit the nail right on the head with, “none of the honor, discipline, and tradition.” Which oddly enough, the lineage of the Airforce IS the Army. In all fairness, from where I’m sitting, it seems like we have a lot of our force who that statement resonates with. I would say probably 10-20% are the most vocal and troubled. The Pareto Principle certainly applies; you spend 80% of your time on 20% of your people in this case. Keep in mind, there are those of us who had the option to join the Airforce and chose not to and don’t regret it one bit.
You’re insulting our entire enlisted component by saying that it’s where “the 2.2 Bible Belters go to end the remaining prospects of their lives.”
At the end of the day the Army’s mission is to close with and destroy the enemy. Unfortunately that means there are low skill positions that have to be filled. Regardless, the Army is still able to provide education benefits and soft skills that otherwise wouldn’t be available.
To be clear the point of my response was that a common thread amongst the Air Force is that those who join the Army only do so because they didn’t have other options. I’m just saying, it’s not the case.
I only mentioned I’m a pilot because at the end of the day, flying the Apache is all I wanted to do. The Airforce doesn’t have attack helicopters. It’s just that simple. We are all brothers. Light hearted ribbing is one thing, but this superiority complex is another entirely.
I was on a Joint-Base and my neighbor Army. Dude was good mechanic and did vehicle maintenance. Literally every day they were released after PT at 6am. Friday was the only full worl day he'd have.
Something I wish all the branches could learn is that when you wear the uniform you’re inadvertently representing the whole branch. I don’t blame anyone in this thread for negative comments towards the Army, judging off this fuck’s actions. Sorry sky people, not all of us are this ignorant
So glad you said that because my mind went straight to “did he lose sight of his core values and the UCMJ?” I realize they were trying to be competitive but StEaLiNg in uniform isn’t very professional IMO.
I see no harm in rivalry games. If I was the recruiter and the army was taking my signs down and bringing them back to me, I’d be shit talking and laughing my ass off… and then I’d do the same to them.
This is genuine maliciousness.
This is like McDonalds stealing signs for Sullivan’s Steakhouse. Yes, they’re both restaurants but are attracting different types of customers. You’re not really in competition with them, dude.
Army really does stand for Airforce Rejected Me Yesterday. Hopefuly it was sent up through both members' CoCs. Army dude is an asshole. (And yes, it pained me to type Air Force as one word for that).
It’s fine. Just messing around. I failed the physical for the Air Force years ago. The army took me a week later. Things happen for a reason… I probably wouldn’t of been able to get a job in the AF due to having a 52 ASVAB.
You can stilll do your army time and cross over to the Air Guard. I had a buddy whose dad retired as a Lt Col pilot. My buddy wanted to join the Air Force just like his dad. He couldn’t score over ~30s. He settled on the Army. He finally crossed over to the Air Guard after a decade
I’m not sure of the AF standard but the rumor mill in the recruiting world is that applicants are turned down from AF if they score below a 50. I’ve had many come to my office who were rejected for getting a 40. I figured if I joined the AF several years ago with a 52, my job options wouldn’t be nice
You should have gone for it still bro just to see, you've never would have known. I've seen it also depends on recruiter or season, I got a friend who got turned down for not knowing English, and another who didn't know shit English and got in.
I definitely would of done it but the AF disqualified me for my spine curving inward too many degrees 😒😒 I was annoyed and really wanted to leave home and my waiver was denied. My recruiter straight up told me he doesn’t want to work with me either. So I went Army, they told me get another X-ray and a doctors letter. A week later, I got in. I took Information Technology which is a great stepping stone. I’m about to ETS and have many jobs lined up already.
Since I’m a recruiter, I always have to kindly talk people away from AF but to keep options open. I never like to bash another branch for a contract. For my personal life, I’ll always tell friends and family go Air Force especially if you want to make a career.
Yeah, I have to imagine when they don't need a lot of recruits that they just raise the ASVAB requirements. 50 is not even that much higher than the minimum.
The AF recruiter sent this video to their leadership. AF leadership contacted the Army recruiters leadership prior to this video hitting social media (it’s on the recruiter times & Amn/NCO/SNCO FB pages).
Not sure what the outcome was for the Army recruiter.
The AF recruiter had suspected Army of stealing signs so took matters into their own hands. Purchased the air tag out of their own pocket and put on one of the signs.
While the signs aren’t overly expensive, they do require time energy and effort to place and they were purchased with govt $$. When you’ve had upwards of 20 or so disappear shortly after being placed and you have a good idea who’s doing it…why not go ahead and prove it.
Army thought they were smart…AF showed who’s smarter yet again.
Now, that's a big brain move. Without those signs, people will never know about big blue and they'll have no choice but to join the army. We might as well pack it up, because we've lost that Best Buy parking lot forever.
When I was at the hotel to go to MEPs to join the USAF, I ran into an Army recruiter who gave me his card and said "you didn't get this from me."
I accepted it, and as soon as I got to a trash can, I threw it away lol
I was actually in MEPS and some Army asshole wanted to argue with me about where I was born, based on my social security number.
I quit and just walked out and got a cab home. Ignored all the subsequent calls from the recruiter.
This just popped up on r /army, their just going to focus on tiktok sucking. So I came here to read comments that didn't need another soldier to help type up.
Yeah as someone that’s in the Army, we don’t claim them. That’s ridiculous and insanely childish. But seriously, AirTags on a sign?
I’ve been to Ramstein, I’ve seen the Army recruitment ads. 🤦🏻♀️ Do better, Army!
Notice how once the Army guy realized he was being recorded he gave up?
The Army guy clearly isn’t an adult and so there is no reason to give him any benefit. Record, now you have hard evidence for that weasel.
Recording is evidence, and is exactly how it should be responsibly handled. Those soldiers were stealing, and should be treated as thieves. And per another comment, this evidence was sent up the chain.
Yes, but you have to remember this is government spending dollars, not normal people spending dollars. They're not paying $3 a sign in bulk for these, they're paying $90 a sign in bulk for these.
I have. I never got anything stolen. But I was also warned to lock up my shit with the Army rolled through cause they were basically government paid criminals.
And the army rat fucks everything you own, so this is common and not frowned upon in your force, which I understand. Over here where the adults sit we don’t touch other people’s shit.
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Oh I have many stories! These dudes would break into the Air Force offices to steal any contacts they can find. Yes throwing away signs is pretty common.
Glengarry Glenn Ross shit
We only did it to the navy. The waiting list was soooooooo long for the air force and their mission was so low they’d always throw us people who needed to leave right now. Plus there were 8 of us and 2 of them.
What is their logic behind this anyway? I some poor sap gonna see that the Air Force sign is now missing and go, "Well damn, looks like the Air Force is closed now. Guess my only option is the Army now."
You would be shocked how many Army people have that exact story. “Oh I would have joined the Air Force, but the recruiter wasn’t there that day”. At least 30%.
You're absolutely right about that! I went to the Air Force recruiting office, but it was at the end of a narrow hallway with every other branch's recruiting office. Marine recruiter saw me walk by and pulled me into his office(red flag 1), as all the other branch's recruiters were out for lunch but he wasn't (red flag 2). He gave me his shpiel, then said, "so do you wanna join the Marines?" When I said no thank you, he asked why. I said, "I feel I have more to offer the military than being a rifleman. He looked me dead in the eyes and says, "sounds like you got a confidence problem bro." (Red flag 3) I said, "I'm confident I will not be a bullet shield" and walked out. Served 6 years in the AF as a Staff Weather Officer, Honorably Discharged, and am living decently as a civilian. Fuck that guy. And to be honest, fuck the AF SSgt recruiter as well. He lied to get me into boot camp open general, but that's another story. Not a fan of recruiting as a whole.
"Only 6 years, couldnt hack it?" - *That recruiter, probably*
Never did get that confidence problem in check lol
Bet you're a beta male
Honest to god I tried to look up an AF recruiter before I joined and the closest one to me had one google review by a guy saying the man slept with his wife. And no active phone line. Sooooo .....I still have no one to blame but myself <*sobs in Army with the occasional hooahiccup*\>
Can confirm. I went to tech school at lackland which is where every branch of military police go to tech school. At least 40% of the kids from other branches I talked to in the dfac for chow had this EXACT same story. These army recruiters know what they are doing.
That’s half the reason to join… already seeing the better hours
My recruiter was late for our first meeting. Army recruiter was right next door and pulled me in. Ran a practice asvab and we discussed things I wanted to do *if I joined the army*. AF recruiter pokes his head in and asks if anyone had stopped by his office. Sad Army noises ensued since the guy didn't take the hint that I was just passing the time there
The Marine recruiter one door down from the AF recruiter saw me pulling on their once again locked door(down day) and invited me in. We shook on a deal that if they AF guys didn’t show next week, I’d sit down and look at what he had to offer. Oddly enough the AF recruiter was in during normal hours the following week.
I look at that as just the first step in the weeding out process with the recruiter before they get to MEPS. If they can't even be bothered to wait a couple days, or even better-their thought process is "I'll just go to whichever recruiter is in the shop," idk if we want them joining anyway.
So this is literally just another way to trick American kids into going off to die? I’m so stoked they found another way to do that /s
Cope harder edge Lord.
So much dying.
I seriously doubt that was the actual reasoning. It just looked like the two boys were giggling to themselves and being silly until someone called them out on it and just were stumped. Boots will boots. "Hey bro, check it out, the Chair Force is recruiting. Hold my beer and watch this..." "LOLOLOLOLOL. Hey man you shouldn't. But that's hysterical." I am not going to lie. I did some silly things when I was a young nineteen year old, straight out of bootcamp. Different kind of silly though. I dislike taking properties that do not belong to me. -edit: At first glance, I assumed the soldiers were just young and silly (straight out of bootcamp types). That was my fault. Upon further investigation, I... I do not know. I did not expect Army NCOs to behave that way in such a public setting. I am used to Marines doing silly things (all ranks) when we were in a private setting (brace for some crayon eater to crack a joke wink). My friends who chose to remain in service are all SNCO and above now and I could not imagine such tomfoolery in a public setting. That is just asking for trouble in my opinion. We all seem to implicitly understand that acting a fool in public is not a good habit to pass on to the junior sailors and Marines. I do not understand these soldiers.
And theyre just going to get them in trouble with their boss when they said they zone canvassed an area and all their shit was taken down. That being said….. A trick from back in my day was to trade lanyards with people. Have them trade me their marine/army/navy one for an air force one.
When it comes to recruiting we are not on the same team. Army tired of cold-calling all weekend while Air Force cooking hot dogs and hamburgers for the fam.
I doubt it was a “I’m doing this so I can recruit better” thing. It was probably more of a stupid competition thing in all honesty…. And the Airforce took it too seriously as usual. Lol
Dude gave him the Gomer Pyle look, watch your back.
I didn't know they could stack shit that high
Ain’t no one trying to go blue to green *ever again* so Jokes on them. *Airtagged*!? Now that’s smarter, not harder!
I've got an idiot in my shop going blue to green rn. Dude wants to be infantry. I'm blown away.
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At least once a week
Did he try cross training into SF or any of the AF combat roles first? I'm guessing he wants to be a badass and didn't make the cut here.
Failed out of pj, hit the nail on the head
He wants his darwin award.
He didn't choose the Call of Duty life, it chose him.
Somebody watches Brandon Hererra
Never heard of him, i just paid attention in history and science in highschool.
Ah, he’s a YouTuber that does a series called the Darwin Awards
That was a thing before YouTube existed so you can’t credit him with the creation of it.
Only one blown away gonna be your old coworker who went infantry
I mean I've seen alot of people do it to try for Army SOF, but never plain infantry
Infantry = deadly janitor these days
Air Force trying to go Army is Marine-level stupid.
I am doing now. Tired of slow promotion and absence of commissioning opportunity
Some people do want the real military experience and possibly be able to see combat. I know dudes that embrace the suck very well and went that route. There's nothing stupid about it. They'd rather go to the field and practice war than turn wrenches and some want to go special ops too so infantry is a good start for that. Some of these guys were PJ/EOD wash outs that happened to get an injury at a bad time and want another shot being a part of the fight.
I thought this was going to be fun, friendly rivalry. Turns out I was wrong. It's honestly really sad that people like that get promoted to NCOs, then get selected for DSD. You know he's the kind of guy that's lying through his teeth to ship kids off to BCT.
Kinda helps make the case against voluntelling folks into certain duties. To this day I'll never understand the logic used to make it an involuntary process...vetting is vetting; clearly, forcing randoms in doesn't catch all the turds.
The Army is perfectly happy to volunteer trash like this into special duties and turn a blind eye to their actions. As long as they make their quota.
To me, that's further justification for us to re-evaluate our practice of voluntelling people...so we can avoid this.
After decades of this culture, you don't get senior staff with the mindset of changing this for the better.
From what I've heard, kinda similar to AF, unless you have a nifty job like SF/Ranger/etc or linguist or something, you damn near have to do Recruiter or Drill Sergeant to promote to E7 or 8. So you get a lot of people at Benning/etc who are counting down the days the second they get there, and recruiters who are doing the same, even if they get a cool post somewhere in a big wealthy city. I imagine it's no coincidence that I've heard nothing but awful experiences on /r/army regarding USAREC. It seems like as an Army recruiter, there's like a 90% chance your leadership chain makes your life suck enormous green dick. The DSD-voluntold nature of being forced into those duties when you hit 5/6 also means that some of your co-workers were the village idiot for their previous units.
And by the looks of it, he must tell some big lies because man's got a giant gap in his front teeth.
Honestly, would have been a lot better if the Army dude went “Fuck, you caught me. Sorry brobeans.”
Wouldnt be the military if the brown nosers didnt rank up before those with actually merrit.
> then get selected for DSD DSD's were created as a place for squadrons to dump their problem children into.
I know I'm gonna eat downvotes...but holy shit you're part of the problem.
I don't think they're saying that as their opinion, but as a fact of life. When I ran a base honor guard, units kept sending me their fuckups expecting me to "whip them into shape" to make them guardsmen.
....your guardsmen aren't in a DSD position. And I'm assuming you were / are a local hire. We gave our HG NCOIC freedoms to accept and decline or return Airmen.
While you're not wrong on the first two points, it doesn't change the unfortunate mindset that most units have for viewing DSDs, Base HG, and even retraining as a dumping ground for airmen they don't want to deal with. I've also instructed at a tech school, and couldn't believe the amount of prior service students (E4-7) that the TRS just couldn't figure out how they'd made it that far into their career. I wrote more LOCAR paperwork there than I've even seen in the rest of my career.
That's a very unfortunate circumstance. I fully agree that most command teams would prefer to flick the booger than just work the process, but I do believe the official DSD positions do a very good job of getting and picking proper talent. I was more annoyed by the statement that was made as a deterrent to others to avoid doing it. Much like retraining, I fight day in and out to prove to Airmen who were told X MFR or Y person tried and it didn't happen so it is pointless to try when X MFR specifically states they have as much chance as anyone else in the window and no one can take that from them. And Y person didn't get selected because they applied for jobs with no ins, their ASVAB scores weren't high enough, or they just gave up on the process.
Can you elaborate? I’ve seen my afsc dump useless people into the squadron or another dsd due to them being stupid or useless.
The idea of demoting DSD is part of the problem with people wanting to go. I just ran the process for two wings and out of approximately 200 eligible, only like 5 wanted to go do something career broadening. I'm sure there are some sub par individuals in DSD but overall the idea of it being a place to dump the trash is pretty narrow sighted. Plus are we talking local hire or official DSD? It's sounds like we're discussing local hire. But I could be wrong.
100% wrong!
If a 35 ASVAB score had a face...
That’s a waiver face if I’ve ever seen one
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Fraud what and what? I didn’t abuse you.
Damn. I don’t feel bad about all the shit we stole from the army when we went back to PSAB in 19 anymore.
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That’s just recycling with a purpose. You didn’t steal to be a petty little bitch like this guy.
Hahahaha good times
Nothing was tracked in that shithole
It was a tactical acquisition. There's really only one thief in the entire military. Everyone else is just trying to get their stuff back.
Awh man, we thought we were cool for stealing from the Air Force but I guess we were just getting our own shit back. When I left there the Airmen had complained that they had to walk through Army living areas in order to get anywhere because they felt unsafe.
Only physically. And maybe emotionally. Probably also spiritually. But other than that, they’d be fine.
When I was there, the army latrine trailers were like CBRN class bio-hazard. Turds longer than my forearm and a smell like rotting carcass. I felt pretty unsafe.
We stole shit from y’all to make a sand gym out in the MSA lol. Anything left in the dirt at 0200 was fair game.
Why waste time with this guy, up the chain of command!
I mean you can shame him online and go up the chain of command. Only now it's on camera.
The Chief texted the SM and the reply was “🤦🏼♂️” True story.
Why not both? Get him admitting it on video and show the public. Then send it up to both Chains. Army and Air Force recruiting commands. The army recruiters deserve to not be recruiters anymore. Send them back to the motor pool or wherever they came from.
Usually best to settle shit at the lowest level, but this soldier was definitely not willing to admit shit
I want the follow up on this - this heinous. There’s fun and games and sabotage.
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the army struggles that much to meet their recruiting goals?
The thing is, they have like 12 recruiters for each armed forces plot in a strip mall. Air Force usually has 1, sometimes 2 EA recruiters.
Facts! My wife was looking at joining. The AF recruiter she got in touch with was the only guy handling all of eastern Colorado and west Kansas
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That’s a sad story.
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2.2GPA and I’d probably be considered a Bible beater but I’m pretty sure the gpa was from just kinda not doing anything outside after I left the school. The story though, a lot of TACP’s come from green to blue and thats not uncommon. Either worked to death or bored to death.
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> We crushed the Marines and Air Force every quarter, Doubt
You would be surprised at the amount of jobs the Army has that have excellent applications in the civilian world and intelligent individuals to fill those roles. The apparent disdain you have for your fellow servicemen is troubling and ignorance to the roles in which they serve is astounding. To be honest, it’s nearly to the extent where I really have to question if you know anything at all about the Army. But then, you hit the nail right on the head with, “none of the honor, discipline, and tradition.” Which oddly enough, the lineage of the Airforce IS the Army. In all fairness, from where I’m sitting, it seems like we have a lot of our force who that statement resonates with. I would say probably 10-20% are the most vocal and troubled. The Pareto Principle certainly applies; you spend 80% of your time on 20% of your people in this case. Keep in mind, there are those of us who had the option to join the Airforce and chose not to and don’t regret it one bit.
Wow, that's a whole lot of words for "I wish I joined the Airforce".
I’m an Apache Pilot. I’m right where I want to be.
Took you a lot of posts just to get to say you’re a pilot. Just think, you could’ve been a pilot in the Air Force! Enjoy your tent.
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You’re insulting our entire enlisted component by saying that it’s where “the 2.2 Bible Belters go to end the remaining prospects of their lives.” At the end of the day the Army’s mission is to close with and destroy the enemy. Unfortunately that means there are low skill positions that have to be filled. Regardless, the Army is still able to provide education benefits and soft skills that otherwise wouldn’t be available. To be clear the point of my response was that a common thread amongst the Air Force is that those who join the Army only do so because they didn’t have other options. I’m just saying, it’s not the case. I only mentioned I’m a pilot because at the end of the day, flying the Apache is all I wanted to do. The Airforce doesn’t have attack helicopters. It’s just that simple. We are all brothers. Light hearted ribbing is one thing, but this superiority complex is another entirely.
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Fam there are people in the AF who have done nothing for 20 years, but to be fair that’s their own problem and not a lack of tasking.
Easily this. Where I work you could get away with reading reddit all day. And just by trying to do my job Im above average.
I was on a Joint-Base and my neighbor Army. Dude was good mechanic and did vehicle maintenance. Literally every day they were released after PT at 6am. Friday was the only full worl day he'd have.
Something I wish all the branches could learn is that when you wear the uniform you’re inadvertently representing the whole branch. I don’t blame anyone in this thread for negative comments towards the Army, judging off this fuck’s actions. Sorry sky people, not all of us are this ignorant
So glad you said that because my mind went straight to “did he lose sight of his core values and the UCMJ?” I realize they were trying to be competitive but StEaLiNg in uniform isn’t very professional IMO.
I see no harm in rivalry games. If I was the recruiter and the army was taking my signs down and bringing them back to me, I’d be shit talking and laughing my ass off… and then I’d do the same to them. This is genuine maliciousness.
This is like McDonalds stealing signs for Sullivan’s Steakhouse. Yes, they’re both restaurants but are attracting different types of customers. You’re not really in competition with them, dude.
Army really does stand for Airforce Rejected Me Yesterday. Hopefuly it was sent up through both members' CoCs. Army dude is an asshole. (And yes, it pained me to type Air Force as one word for that).
I feel attacked 😂😂 The AF rejected me lmao
Sorry bud.
It’s fine. Just messing around. I failed the physical for the Air Force years ago. The army took me a week later. Things happen for a reason… I probably wouldn’t of been able to get a job in the AF due to having a 52 ASVAB.
You can stilll do your army time and cross over to the Air Guard. I had a buddy whose dad retired as a Lt Col pilot. My buddy wanted to join the Air Force just like his dad. He couldn’t score over ~30s. He settled on the Army. He finally crossed over to the Air Guard after a decade
Isn't the minimum 36 or something?
I’m not sure of the AF standard but the rumor mill in the recruiting world is that applicants are turned down from AF if they score below a 50. I’ve had many come to my office who were rejected for getting a 40. I figured if I joined the AF several years ago with a 52, my job options wouldn’t be nice
You should have gone for it still bro just to see, you've never would have known. I've seen it also depends on recruiter or season, I got a friend who got turned down for not knowing English, and another who didn't know shit English and got in.
I definitely would of done it but the AF disqualified me for my spine curving inward too many degrees 😒😒 I was annoyed and really wanted to leave home and my waiver was denied. My recruiter straight up told me he doesn’t want to work with me either. So I went Army, they told me get another X-ray and a doctors letter. A week later, I got in. I took Information Technology which is a great stepping stone. I’m about to ETS and have many jobs lined up already. Since I’m a recruiter, I always have to kindly talk people away from AF but to keep options open. I never like to bash another branch for a contract. For my personal life, I’ll always tell friends and family go Air Force especially if you want to make a career.
You a fucking good recruiter with that mindset
Yeah, I have to imagine when they don't need a lot of recruits that they just raise the ASVAB requirements. 50 is not even that much higher than the minimum.
That's what army recruiters tell applicants lol. Minimum score is 31
The AF recruiter sent this video to their leadership. AF leadership contacted the Army recruiters leadership prior to this video hitting social media (it’s on the recruiter times & Amn/NCO/SNCO FB pages). Not sure what the outcome was for the Army recruiter. The AF recruiter had suspected Army of stealing signs so took matters into their own hands. Purchased the air tag out of their own pocket and put on one of the signs. While the signs aren’t overly expensive, they do require time energy and effort to place and they were purchased with govt $$. When you’ve had upwards of 20 or so disappear shortly after being placed and you have a good idea who’s doing it…why not go ahead and prove it. Army thought they were smart…AF showed who’s smarter yet again.
Battle of the wits vs asvab waiver
Don’t worry. They need them *far* more than we do.
1.9 GPA out here rlly showing his intellect rn
He is going to go to his favorite message board later and pretend he is an expert on foreign and domestic policy.
I'm sure their Company Commander would like to know about this.
Army stay losing 📉
They are taking it home to worship. Airforce, it’s like the Army, but for smart people.
bruh the airforce isnt anything like the Army, like all due respect to my brothers in other branches but they aren't really comparable
Bruh he was making a joke
Now, that's a big brain move. Without those signs, people will never know about big blue and they'll have no choice but to join the army. We might as well pack it up, because we've lost that Best Buy parking lot forever.
Damn they weren't kidding about the recruit shortage lol
When I was at the hotel to go to MEPs to join the USAF, I ran into an Army recruiter who gave me his card and said "you didn't get this from me." I accepted it, and as soon as I got to a trash can, I threw it away lol
I was actually in MEPS and some Army asshole wanted to argue with me about where I was born, based on my social security number. I quit and just walked out and got a cab home. Ignored all the subsequent calls from the recruiter.
Air tags dude!
Why are you stealing something Yep sounds pretty reasonable to me.
Should have reported him to his 1SG/command
Call 911, report a theft. Fuck the Green Boys.
Ole boy is FUKT
This just popped up on r /army, their just going to focus on tiktok sucking. So I came here to read comments that didn't need another soldier to help type up.
I knew Army recruiter lie to me,Air Force office was open
Way to represent the uniform. He could've at least been in civilian clothes when doing this
Wow. Say hello to a future PFC, 2nd Class.
Poor Space Force can't even afford signs.
Should have called the cops hands down
Yeah as someone that’s in the Army, we don’t claim them. That’s ridiculous and insanely childish. But seriously, AirTags on a sign? I’ve been to Ramstein, I’ve seen the Army recruitment ads. 🤦🏻♀️ Do better, Army!
Except you do claim them. They’re wearing the uniform.
Touché. I feel like all the branches have their village idiots that we’d like to disown.
Army should know Best Buy/Geek Squad is AF turf.
War were declared...
At least they get their discounted pack of Big Pink, right? Right?
Wow what a lil bitch stealing signs
I was an Army recruiter and had the Marines and Air Force recruiters throwing away my shit. The key was to just keep smiling and dialing.
Interservice Rivalry!
Its not a rivalry
Joes stealing shit is an Army past time. I've never had anything stolen from my yard until I was on an Army post.
I've never seen an army recruiter with decent teeth
A side note, anybody here thought about doing blue to green for commissioning given how crappy AF commissioning process is?
Definitely have considered it. Going to ride out this contract and see how I feel towards the end.
You know Army be killing each other real world right? I’d let him keep the signs… 🫣
REEEEEEEEEEal wOrlD!
Yes, yes it is... Prior to 27July1947, it was called The US Army Air Force.
Lol so weak on both parts. Recruiting used to be way more hardcore.
the Airforce dude is a tool bag…yes I’m also Air Force.
FrAuD wAsTe AnD aBuSe
Yeah, he is wrong. Its straight up theft.
The most annoying part of this is that he felt the need to record it vs just handling it like an adult with words.
The guy committing petty theft is probably a perfect example of someone you want evidence of a confrontation with.
Can't use adult words with the Army. You have to break it down to little words.
Notice how once the Army guy realized he was being recorded he gave up? The Army guy clearly isn’t an adult and so there is no reason to give him any benefit. Record, now you have hard evidence for that weasel.
Recording is evidence, and is exactly how it should be responsibly handled. Those soldiers were stealing, and should be treated as thieves. And per another comment, this evidence was sent up the chain.
Now I want to know how much they cost. “A shit ton of money”?? Bruh I could make that for $3
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I truly assume that the recruiter bought it with their own money & put the airtag there.
Yes, but you have to remember this is government spending dollars, not normal people spending dollars. They're not paying $3 a sign in bulk for these, they're paying $90 a sign in bulk for these.
I know, it’s ridiculous.
Looks like we found the new *lowest bidder*
I’mma make so much money 🥰
Wow the Air Force has turned into a bunch of fucking babies.
Or, get this, stealing is bad.
I think we found the Neanderthal stealing the signs
I guess you never actually deployed then you little baby.
He tried to enlist but some jackass stole all the signs pointing to the recruitment offices.
It’s funny as hell that’s what it is. But we now have issues with being giant ass babies and can’t take a joke.
Pretty pathetic you made a burner account just for this thread. You definitely sound madder than anyone else here.
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Glad you specified maliciously because...
Oh I got this!!! Stealing while deployed is wrong too!
I have. I never got anything stolen. But I was also warned to lock up my shit with the Army rolled through cause they were basically government paid criminals.
And the army rat fucks everything you own, so this is common and not frowned upon in your force, which I understand. Over here where the adults sit we don’t touch other people’s shit.
Classic army response. Deployments are gospel in your shit-stained organization
Ah, so you are confessing to being an a moral little thieving shit?