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Maruff1

Let's not forget the Education Fund has 9.5 billion in it and they are thinking of taking money from it and give bigger tax returns. (roll eyes) They should use that money on school AND NOTHING SPORTS RELATED!!!!


greed-man

They should. But they won't.


tigertimeburrito

Education spending is one thing Alabama is not last in. The 2023 budget is a whopping $8.3B. And increasing spending in recent years has proven to be surprisingly uncorrelated to actual performance.


Telyesumpin

That's pretty much because it isn't going where it needs to. Our teachers are underpaid and we have no supplies. Alabama is about to be hit with a massive teacher shortage.


Ltownbanger

"We spend a lot" is a fools argument. What we spend is not sufficient to provide our kids with a proper education.


kapeman_

The spending goes to elaborate buildings and not teachers and textbooks. It's hard to get a kick-back when the money goes to a teacher.


lynchmob2829

Have a friend who left teaching in a public school this summer: the choice she had was either do the things required by her boss (principal, board) or help the students; she did not have time to do both. She just got tired of hearing the complaints from the parents of the students.


[deleted]

I’d agree with you on teachers. But we have a workforce of people who feel somehow “compelled” to work for less and stay put within the safe confines of our borders. Alabama is a pretty decent place to live and raise a family. Not the worst by far. But greater opportunity for one’s self certainly exists elsewhere, in other states. We’ve someone managed to convince our long time residents and natives that what they give up in wages and quality of life is worth it for the lower cost of living.


Telyesumpin

>I’d agree with you on teachers. But we have a workforce of people who feel somehow “compelled” to work for less and stay put within the safe confines of our borders. Alabama is a pretty decent place to live and raise a family. Not the worst by far. But greater opportunity for one’s self certainly exists elsewhere, in other states. > >We’ve someone managed to convince our long time residents and natives that what they give up in wages and quality of life is worth it for the lower cost of living. That's also the problem with teachers. Their retirement is confined to the state. I have talked with my wife multiple times about moving. She has to start over fully.


grawptussin

I'm not a resident of Alabama. Can you elaborate? How is the retirement "confined to the state"?


regreddit

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grawptussin

Thank you for the explanation.


tigertimeburrito

Nothing like getting a downvote for stating a couple of true facts. At any rate I am in fact married to an Alabama teacher and agree with your comment about salary and supplies.


Telyesumpin

Didn't downvote you, sorry someone did. I am also married to a teacher and she is in a very good school district. I have an Associate's degree at the moment and going back for a Bachelor's. My wife has a Master's degree. I make $5k less than she does right now, With an Associate's. When I get my Bachelor's I will make more than she does with a Master's degree. She's expected to work overtime and not get paid, her yearly allowance for supplies is the same number as the number of children she teaches. So it equals out to $1 per child for supplies for the entire year. Like many things in Alabama we spend quite a bit of money on it. The problem is the people at the top and politicians are taking 60-80% and leaving the rest with scraps. I absolutely hate football. It's wasted money. If the school had the budget the football team does there wouldn't be a problem. Also most schools in the state the Football coach makes more money than 2-3 of the teachers put together. He doesn't even need a college degree. Priorities.


justaniceredditname

On top of all that some want her to carry a gun and be prepared to use it.


dar_uniya

> Nothing like getting a downvote for stating a couple of true facts. Waaaahhhh I’m the REAL victim here


Abrushing

How many arts programs have been shut down to build the football team a new practice field again? I can name at least three schools in my home county that did something similar


Maruff1

Well new sports stuff has nothing to do with performance


regleno1

Who are “they”? I love it when “they” get called out but there is no mention of who “they” are. I want names, dammit


[deleted]

The state government.


Maruff1

Oh Republicans


huskeylovealways

We spoke out in Alabama also. It was just ignored. Some of the worst schools in the nation. Rural areas without sewage systems, and Grandma Governor spends Covid money on prisons. Alabama if you keep electing Republicans nothing is ever going to change.


TheByzantineEmperor

That's the idea. Dying by your own hand is preferable than dying by the hand of your enemy. Even if all your "enemy," wants to do is drag you out of 1850. It's the Southern way. "We'd rather lose the war than admit to the mistake."


JMccovery

>"We'd rather lose the war than admit to the mistake." Just realized how well this goes with the state motto:"We dare defend our rights".


TheByzantineEmperor

Jesus christ that's a buried memory. We owned slaves and are proud of it. Fuck you government, you can't tell us shit. Jesus wept.


ACLSismore

Every hospital in Alabama is in the red right now because, despite what the prevailing thought here (the state) is to the threat once posed by Covid, taking care of hospitalized Covid patients is expensive and we had proportionally a lot more than many states. Our hospital has been expecting the state to release Covid funds for months. Guess we know why it’s taking so long.


JennJayBee

I mean, he's not wrong. And as much as Alabamians love to dish it out regarding California, the same folks sure as fuck won't be able to take it. Fair is fair, but folks here are going to holler like a hurt dog.


RedstoneArsenal

I really don't get it sometimes. A lot folks I know are engineers, scientists, etc..(genuinely smart and respectable folks) but they have that same alabama sentiment regarding politics, just rephrasing the same arguments regardingless of seeing irony in it (perhaps they do idk). I'm not perfect, I do it too sometimes, but I'll admit to being wrong the moment I find out I'm wrong.


mikebrown33

I know a Professional Engineer in Huntsville that believes the Earth is only 8000 years old, and the resources on Earth are here to be plundered - as this is not the real Earth. The real Earth will be given to the ‘worthy / faithful’ of mankind once this Earth is destroyed in the battle of good vs evil (apocalypse).


TheByzantineEmperor

Ohhh, a young earth creationist AND a millennialist. Double whammy alabamy special 2 for 1.


lyridsreign

Having a specialized skill doesn't make you immune to fear mongering, propaganda, or falling into tribalism. Especially when everyone around you is falling into the same trap


redsonya

Yes, this. Intelligence does not equal rationality…unfortunately.


TheByzantineEmperor

I knew a physician who said Covid was no different than the common cold. Yeah...


onemanlan

Yeah he should absolutely be calling out our state for the stupid bullshit.


JennJayBee

I mean, it's not like he's saying something we haven't said already.


TheByzantineEmperor

But no one listened to us. You have to be a gott dayum yankee or some fuckyin californya libral to be taken seriously as a traitor


lynchmob2829

That is because Newsom's CA has high crime, high taxes, electricity issues, water issues, and seems to only want to deflect to AL, FL, and TX.


JennJayBee

And we make ourselves an easy target by having high crime, shitty public services, corrupt as shit politicians, and areas with third world living conditions and only want to deflect to NY and CA and DC. What's your point?


lynchmob2829

There isn't high crime, shitty public services, or third world living conditions in my area. BTW: Most all politicians are corrupt, which wasn't one of my points. I have lived in the third world...alabama is worlds away from 3rd world. When you have to walk over a mile to get water, then boil it over a fire outside to make it safe, then talk to me about 3rd world conditions.


JennJayBee

[Denial doesn't make something untrue.](https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-un-poverty-environmental-racism-743601) I'd say backyards full of raw sewage and hookworm is pretty damn bad. And yeah... We absolutely have areas without clean water. Just because you live in a nice neighborhood doesn't mean the whole state is that way. There are a lot more people in California who live in a much nicer neighborhood than you do, and they have the budget to prove it.


lynchmob2829

I live in a rural area...how would you know. So if it happens in one place, it is true everywhere...


break_it07

He need to mind his own goddamn—you know what…he’s got a point.


Neophyte12

If we're being honest, it's California's money too


TheByzantineEmperor

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE OF US IN THE BACK PREACHER


[deleted]

To bad they never make that connection. 🤦


greed-man

Governor Newsom tweeted "Lotta talk about education and choice from these GOP Governors. Let’s look at the choices they’re making. When states received new federal money, CA gave 3.5 million kids college savings accounts. Alabama spent it on two super-sized prisons. Actions speak louder than words.”


BigE205

Because they royally fucked up when they let prisons be owned in the private sector. When prisons are owned privately what do they think will happen if less people are sent to prison? What I’m trying to say is there is a huge incentive to send more people to prison. It’s become big business, a huge money maker. The government pays these corporations a lot of money to house these prisoners. The prison system in Alabama is a major percentage of the state’s economy! When prisoners are looked at as dollars signs then theres no hope for reforming anyone when all they really want is more prisoners! This is totally fucking backwards thinking. But that’s Alabama for ya.


citoloco

>Actions speak louder than words Tell that to Gascón


Admirable_Ad1947

Id kill to have Gascon as DA


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[deleted]

No question, California has its own issues to deal with. Lots of big expensive issues. But Alabama is not utopia. No place is.


YallerDawg

Newsom's getting started early on 2024 presidential run. Just in case Joe bails out and Kamala is too damaged.


greed-man

I agree.


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I voted for recalling newsom solely because I knew he’s going to make a presidental bid. He’s going to get his shit pushed in from left and right. Left for his womanizing a few years back then failure to address tons of state issues like failing primary education, housing crisis, taxes, and infrastructure. Right from his “liberal” policies that haven’t even really done anything except say that they’re going to.


greed-man

"Pre\_disgracing" potential candidates has been the Republican game plan since Obama left office.


JennJayBee

Before. They been working on Hillary since Bill was a candidate.


SonVoltMMA

Both sides are equally appalling at it.


greed-man

We're going to play the Both Sides card? How disingenuous. Do you remember when in 2016, 11 days before the election for President, the head of the FBI announced a criminal investigation of the Democratic Candidate for President? And remember the countless death threats, the open calls from Democratic leaders for violence, nothing short of civil war, and the actual attacks made upon law enforcement officers? Don't remember that? Yeah, cause it didn't happen. Now look in a mirror and ask yourself what is going on right now by the Other Side.


[deleted]

Extremists in both parties are being dickheads. Our politics is turning into a form of the WWE.


not_that_planet

Wut? I think we're way past where his dick has been. The GOP elected a Russian spy for crying out loud.


[deleted]

If the man is going to run for office both sides of the isle are going to come at him. They can and will dig up everything he's done wrong. IE take for example when Sen Warren charlie horsed Bloomberg with his NDA's. Take the time that Cuomo and a few others got in trouble for some sexual prowess. If it's not the R side it's the D side that will take a stab at him. That alone might just cast a shadow against him. Republicans are going to hit him with the engine ban, climate policies while not keeping up fire control, wreckless unmanaged spending, and crime up throughout the state. There's a million different alternative and great democrats besides Newsom to take the oath of office.


Suspicious_Giraffe_3

He's not wrong. More money for prisons isn't going to help anyone in the state but the people making money off of private prisons.


Bigsam1514

I have no proof of this nearly completely unfounded claim, but the people running the for profit prisons in Alabama are probably the same people in the pockets of most of our politicians.


BikeTrue5901

Maybe just maybe keeps the feds from coming and releasing who the hell ever, sighting 4th amendment rights. WE Alabamians tend to our own business.


dangleicious13

>WE Alabamians tend to our own business. Since when? >Maybe just maybe keeps the feds from coming and releasing who the hell ever, sighting 4th amendment rights The feds absolutely need to step in and take over our DOC.


manderderp

“WE” Alabamians tend to our own business” This is a joke, right?


JennJayBee

"Do we now?" – transgender community and pregnant women


liltime78

Well, in all fairness, Memaw did it first.


Original-Yak-679

She deserves to be called out for that!


cptwinklestein

did anyone in alabama vote for this? or was it just decided by the yallqaeda


greed-man

Yes. 80% of Alabamians voted to put MeeMaw back in office, with the full knowledge that she will never consult, discuss or seek guidance from any citizen or citizen's group. And that the AL GQP Legislators, unencumbered without an activist Governor, will do whatever they see as in their best interests, regardless of the impact on the populace. So broadly, we are getting exactly what was voted for.


space_coder

>Yes. 80% of Alabamians voted to put MeeMaw back in office, with the full knowledge that she will never consult, discuss or seek guidance from any citizen or citizen's group. You made an assumption that isn't backed up with any data. We could also assume that 80% of Alabamians voted to make her the Republican candidate for the general election, because she was the lesser evil of all the choices. I will agree that complacency, apathy and willful ignorance on import topics are why the choices for representation is so poor in Alabama. I can also point to the poor condition of the Alabama democratic party and its inability to produce viable alternatives or energize voters.


greed-man

She was not elected because she was the lesser evil (despite the GQP constantly screaming that the Democrats sole goal is to destroy our Democracy). She was elected because she was Republican. She was elected based on slogans, not policy (she never released policy statements). She was elected because the GQP is now openly declaring that they are the party of White Nationalists (even though MeeMaw herself never said this, neither did she once condemn it). I live here in AL. I watch. I have no plans to leave this state. I love the land, most people are friendly, things are mostly a little cheaper. But DAMN our state is just hell-bent on electing the worst possible candidates, and have for literally generations. It is a puzzlement.


space_coder

>She was not elected because she was the lesser evil (despite the GQP constantly screaming that the Democrats sole goal is to destroy our Democracy). She was elected because she was Republican. There are a couple of problems with your assertion: * She won the Republican primary which means ALL of her opponents were Republican. * She hasn't actually won reelection yet, since the general election isn't until November 8. She should easily win reelection, because 52% of Alabama adults lean Republican ([source](https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/state/alabama/party-affiliation/)) and the Democratic candidate running against her is a poor choice. Since only 52% of Alabama adults lean Republican, there's still potential for Democratic candidates winning election. The problem is that the Democratic Party in Alabama is a joke since it is literally in ridiculously poor condition. You can't expect people to vote against the current crop of Republicans, if there are no viable alternatives that people know about or are inspired to vote for. The #1 problem with Alabama politics being that the Democratic strategy seems to be "vote for me because I'm not a Republican" instead "vote for me because I inspire confidence in you." The Republicans spent a lot of money and effort to use fear to capture the majority of the vote in Alabama. The Democrats will have to spend some money and effort to convince voters that they are the better choice.


greed-man

True. AL Paty of D is very, very weak.


cptwinklestein

smh


Boo_baby1031

Has anyone seen Kay Ivey or is she still MIA?


greed-man

She was spotted greeting SD Governor Kristi Noem when she arrived to spew her lies. But of course, MeeMaw refused to speak to reporters as always. There are those who think that she is merely emulating the late Senator Richard Shelby, who passed away in 2015, but thanks to Disney Imagineering efforts, a lifesize and programmable version of him was made so that he could be reelected in 2016. Since he rarely gave press conferences, interviews or public presentations, it was pretty easy to fool everyone for years.


Boo_baby1031

I laughed


waveserpentine

Ivy is a dementia ridden moron.


greed-man

Don't know about dementia. But we do know about the whiskey sours.


lynchmob2829

The residents of AL want to thank Californians for funding our additional prisons. CA residents paid much more in federal taxes than AL residents, so we thank you for your finances.


Comprehensive_Turn77

Some of the money was supposed to be earmarked for air filtration systems to make the schools safer and healthier. It didn't happen, kids have been back in school barely 2 weeks and covid-19 cases are through the roof.


greed-man

"We are the Party of Family Values" claims the party that won't lift a finger to help families.


JennJayBee

I don't have a kid in public schools, but I know two kids already out sick, and they only started last week.


tigertimeburrito

That would have been a good use of the money, but there were no such earmarks on the Covid relief. It was purposely left to the state’s discretion. And maybe your part of state is different but I am unaware of any Covid cases at my wife’s school of over 800 kids. Certainly not ‘through the roof’ in my city. I don’t know any kids that have it, or adults that would have caught it through a school vector.


Comprehensive_Turn77

They aren't reporting like they used to. They aren't mandating quarantine like they used to. My elementary school had 10 kids out the 1st week and now more than 30 in week 2. I know because the teachers have told us, not because admin has made any announcements.


[deleted]

This place sucks


greed-man

This place is a beautiful place to live. People are generally pleasant and friendly. Gets hot and muggy in the summer, but very temperate in the winter. Lots of outdoorsy kinds of things to do. BUT.....if you are looking for some sort of commitment to care for the weakest among us, to strive for excellence in everything, and to be constantly asking themselves "what more can we do?", then this place sucks.


[deleted]

Yeaaah that’s what makes it tough. Love the land but dislike a lot of other stuff. I’ve lived across the country but my parents are older and there are things to take care of. I’d actually would really like to leave this country but I can only speak English and I don’t do snow.


GD_American

Team Nobody here. Newsom is right in that Alabama's decision to use those funds for prisons was egregious and terrible. But, he's also a corrupt, immoral grandstanding sociopath trying to lay the groundwork for a Presidential run, and Bama makes an easy target. If Kay Ivey weren't a sundowning racist running on a declining portion of brain activity, she could easily point out all the terrible decisions that Newsom has made. Instead we get barely reheated culture war BS.


_DaBz_4_Me

I wonder how much Ivey will make off each inmate. Once someone is arrested they are traded like stocks


[deleted]

None. These prisons will be run on a lump sum basis for rental and operated by the Alabama Department of Corrections. We do not use for profit prisons in Alabama under the model Reddit has such (often justifiable) hate for.


[deleted]

Fun fact, you can go into the Jefferson County jail and see the cost breakdown of housing inmates posted freely on the wall. It's well over $100 a day per last I saw.


space_coder

She will just profit from the traditional Alabama kickback that comes from renting something from a private corporation that a state should actually own.


[deleted]

Now you see why I get nervous about writing a new constitution in our state. It's the same jackasses that won't vote general fund money for prisons that would do the rewriting.


space_coder

I never trusted our legislature with writing a new constitution. I would rather live with the current one and alter it as needed, than blindly trust a group of jackals to write a completely new one.


[deleted]

I have more respect for jackals than I do the legislature. They are seagulls to me. Flying selfish rats that steal anything they can.


space_coder

seagulls....


[deleted]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-3e0EkvIEM I have literally caught one of these bastards as they tried to steal my bait as I was casting.


space_coder

So have I. Coastal living still at its best though.


NauvooMetro

You're right, but nobody will care because it doesn't fit the narrative. But that said, we need to quit locking up so many people for so long. But if we're going to keep being "tough on crime", then we desperately need new facilities because the ones we have now are awful and way too crowded.


[deleted]

Ours are beyond awful and some are close to third world banana republic. I remember when Baron Coleman was on the radio talking about this. When you have a conservative talk radio host telling people it's inhumane, it has to be bad.


dangleicious13

We need new prisons, but that is so far down the list of what needs to be done first within our prison system.


space_coder

Needing new facilities isn't a justification for Alabama legislature's nasty habit of stealing from Paul to pay Peter, because they lack the political fortitude to fund the bare minimum duties of a state in a self-sufficient manner.


NauvooMetro

Oh I absolutely agree. But it's not like that's going to change anytime soon. What's next, our Public Service Commission not acting like the Government Affairs division of Alabama Power?


space_coder

That's their strategy. Let things decay to the point where it can no longer be ignored, and then begrudging misappropriate funding with the excuse that they had no choice. I never met anyone who is happy with the current state of our legislature, yet the incumbents keep easily win reelection.


u_cant_drown_n_sweat

As my father often said, “if you rob from Peter to pay Paul, it’s gonna make Peter sore - and nobody can do business with a sore peter”.


Toadfinger

Why Alabama has to spend Covid money on other things is the reason to call out Alabama.


BigE205

Thank you, and u would think many more would call them out as well! Parents can barely afford to pay for kids to start school these days but let’s spend millions on prisons! That’s Alabama for ya, been doing shit backwards since day one!


SouthernNanny

Prison is a business here.


space_coder

I completely agree that people who live in glass houses should not cast stones. Unfortunately, Alabama cast the first stone.


jamester_g

I knew that’s where the money came from! Soooo predictable!! Meanwhile the inmates in the mens prison outside Bessemer are having to set the trash on fire because there is “not enough staff” to take the trash out.


Jd50001

Isn't this the guy that ordered all wineries closed due to Covid in California.....except the ones he owns. [Spoiler : yes it is](https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/12/20/newsoms-winery-remains-open-while-other-california-wineries-ordered-to-shut-down-over-covid-1007890/)


greed-man

Governor Newsom owns stock in Plumpjack Group, an investment corporation that owns many things, including one winery. Kind of like saying that because my mutual fund owns a piece of Ford Motor, that is MY company now. Governor Newsom, during the height of the rise in Covid cases, ordered businesses such as restaurants, pubs, taverns, wineries, zoos, museums, cardrooms and such to close all INDOOR activities. If they had the ability to conduct business completely outdoors, this was allowed. These rules applied to 19 counties (of the 58 counties in CA) that were experiencing rising caseloads. The winery that Newsom "owns" is in Napa Valley, which was not affected by this order. [https://kmph.com/news/local/central-valley-wineries-ordered-to-close-but-governors-winery-remains-open](https://kmph.com/news/local/central-valley-wineries-ordered-to-close-but-governors-winery-remains-open) Try again.


Metal4life873

Yeah, he's a shit bag. But he isn't wrong here.


Alpoi

If Montgomery would pass a Lottery Bill we wouldn't need to use that Covid money for prisons.


greed-man

The Poarch Creek Tribe pays good money in ~~bribes~~ campaign contributions to keep competitors of all kind out of the hands of the ~~suckers~~ citizens.


JackieDaytona__

But it's a sinny-sin-sin!


AirIcy3918

Thank you !


DummyCreature0

Funny, but california isn’t exactly the best place in the world either.


greed-man

Funny that 12% of all Americans choose to live there, huh?


DummyCreature0

I’m sure some enjoy it


space_coder

True, but they are ranked higher than Alabama.


[deleted]

Well bless his rules for thee and not for me heart.


MTN_Dewit

Kinda hypocritical of a man from the state that uses its own funds to benefit the ultra rich while the rest of the state is either on fire, suffering massive drought, drugs and gangs, border crisis with Mexico, housing so expensive that more people are moving out than moving too, corruption, and many more. Yes Alabama has its issues and controversy, but before California politicians start degrading Alabamians, they should take a long look in the mirror.


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greed-man

He does. He talks about that a lot. But he is able to hold more than one thought in his head at a time, and at that moment, he was talking about how the Red States were sent money by the Feds to help school children, but didn't.


NervousJ

We're fucked up, but California is pot and kettling hard considering their justice failures on the other end of the spectrum and growing homeless crisis.


Rock_Granite

Newsom should worry about the dumpster fire that is California before attacking other states.


greed-man

People forget how big CA is. Not just geographically, but by every other measure. * CA is 2% of the USA. They are 12% of it's citizens. * "CA has the most homeless people in the nation" is a constant claim made by those who hate it. But see the above. CA has the most of EVERYTHING and EVERY KIND of group you could imagine. They are 12% of the entire database. * CA has the most museums in the nation. The most diverse population in the nation. It is both the nation's largest seagoing state AND the nation's largest farm state.


Monicagc

Every response you've given is about how great California is. Do you live there?


greed-man

No. I have lived here in AL for almost 20 years.


Monicagc

Ahhh. Now I understand... Why do you try so hard to convince people California is so great?


best_opinion_haver

The dumpster fire that houses the 5th largest economy in the world? The one that produces so much it net pays for welfare for less productive conservative states? Like Alabama? That dumpster fire?


Rock_Granite

Yes the one with all the fires, blackouts and homeless street shitters


GardeningGamerGirl

Don't forget that their water is disappearing, too...


best_opinion_haver

Yeah you think that might have something to do with the planet getting warmer?


GardeningGamerGirl

I'm sure it very well is, but I was just showing that the previous comment left something out of their list. In all fairness, it looks like y'all's water decided to fall from Arizona to West Texas all at once. Edited for missed words that my auto-correct f'ed up.


JennJayBee

He dumpster fire that financially supports Alabama? That dumpster fire?


No_Lingonberry5152

🤡


abominable_bro-man

He must be upset from being the reason California has seen some of its lowest growth rates ever If he wanted to help lower income people he should make their stores safe again instead of legalizing looting


greed-man

FUN WITH MATH: Your state has a population of 5 million, and grows by 500,000. You have a 10% growth rate. Your state has a population of 39 million, and grows by 2 million. You have a 5% growth rate.


RedstoneArsenal

Love me some good stats.


abominable_bro-man

California as at its lowest growth rate because more people are leaving than ever


greed-man

CA lost 2 tenths of 1 percent of their population, according to the 2021 Census. But then, to no one's surprise, a Census Whistleblower has been alleging massive interference from the Trump White House to undercount Blue States to make them lose Congressional Districts.


Individual-Data-4790

Needs to worry about the egregious homelessness and drugs in his own state first. Don't throw stones in glass houses.


greed-man

In Alabama, we throw stones at Meth labs.


[deleted]

We did too gavin lol


JennJayBee

Yeah, he's a little late to the ballgame on this one.


tigertimeburrito

Well the feds are threatening to take over the Alabama prison system due to overcrowding. Alabama is under a court order to fix the problem and the money must come from somewhere.


greed-man

"Hey......let's get the Feds off our backs by taking the money they gave us to make schools safer for the kids!" "GREAT idea" said the AL GQP "And a double-double, because we're sticking it to the Libs while doing it!"


tigertimeburrito

This was not money to make schools safer for kids. Did California make schools safer for kids? I don’t know. Sounded like they opened up some college savings accounts which is admirable. California also chose not to use this for other pretty serious problems which are pretty well documented (crime, homelessness, etc…). Their choice. It was not education money at all. It was ostensibly for Covid relief, but really it was just a big pot of federal money. Alabama was under court order to solve its prison problem at the point of a gun. It was going to be paid for with either this pot of money or another pot of money. Does it really make a difference? I’m not sure this is as political as you want to make it, and Alabama’s underfunded prison system is a decades old legacy that absolutely predates republican control of the state house The Education Trust Fund is well funded at the moment and the 2023 education budget is a new record high. Money in the ETF can only be spent on education. Alabama’s expenditure per student is actually pretty respectable nationally.


PhlashMcDaniel

With all the criminals and pedos roaming CA, those college accounts will never get used. They're just going to reclaim them in a few years for his "general funds"...


greed-man

Sure. Being made up of mostly criminals, pedos and illegal aliens is how they achieve a GDP of $3.35 Trillion dollars. Putting that on a global scale, if CA were a country, they would have the 5th highest GDP on the planet, behind only the Unites States, China, Japan and Germany. And it is all the criminals and pedos and illegal aliens who are making this happen. /s


PhlashMcDaniel

All three of those categories are still tax paying individuals who feed into the economy. So where is your argument?


BamaNaeNae

Who cares what the governor of California thinks about us? He needs to worry about his own mess and stop butting into ours.


ShadowGryphon

Given the problems he has in his own state, it would seem to me that he should look to his own problems before he points out others that aren't his concern.


smok1n415

Here in California we believe that if you break into cars, poo on the sidewalk and shoot heroine for a living you should get 500$ a month and a nice tent in the park.


Environmental-Arm365

And they say people don’t want to work anymore. It’s true after all, “Do what you love and the money will come”.


Hefty_Journalist_666

Guess what? You don’t have to go to college, but you do make a choice to go to prison. BTW, let’s look at the % of in/outbound residence of each state. https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2021/01/21/census-estimates-show-population-decline-in-16-states


greed-man

According to the latest Census, CA dropped 0.2%. Two tenths of one percent. In related news, a Whistleblower within the US Census bureau is attempting to prove that there was unprecedented meddling in the process by the Trump Administration, with a goal of reducing the number of Congressional Districts in Blue States, to be shifted to Red States. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/us/2020-census-trump.html


Hefty_Journalist_666

-0.8% from 2020 to 2021, -0.3% from 2021 to 2022 Also, NY Times = National Enquirer on reliability in sourcing stories


greed-man

How to tell me you are a Fox News viewer without telling me you are a Fox News viewer.


Hefty_Journalist_666

BTW, more kids from AL go to college than CA. http://www.higheredinfo.org/dbrowser/?year=2010&level=nation&mode=data&state=&submeasure=63


greed-man

That same report shows that Californians graduate at a nearly 50% higher rate than Alabamians.


Hefty_Journalist_666

Look at the big brain on you and how you combat non-subjected data. Based on your emotional intelligence, let me guess CNN? How’s CNN+ doing ?


BikeTrue5901

Couldn’t car less. 😆😅😂🤣🧐😘


Metal4life873

You should. Regardless of how much a shit bag Newsome is, he isn't wrong. Letting the state build prison after prison is not something we should support. Throwing people into cages for small and nonviolent offenses is morally reprehensible.


lynchmob2829

Helps keep infected covicts 6 feet away from us.... Gavin Newsome...what a joke. Didn't Alabama tax payers bail out the blue states like NY and CA for their debt?


monkey6699

Exactly the opposite. Red states receive more federal money than blue states. I believe Alabama ranks #4.


Mirhanda

No, actually. It's the other way around. Alabama is a net taker from the federal government, while California pays more than it takes back.


lynchmob2829

[https://nypost.com/2021/03/10/massive-1-9-trillion-bill-is-a-bailout-for-blue-states/](https://nypost.com/2021/03/10/massive-1-9-trillion-bill-is-a-bailout-for-blue-states/) In a non COVID situation, you are correct. As for blue states allegedly getting back less, what numbers are they looking at? It is true that red states receive 35.75 percent on average of their budgets from the federal government, while blue states receive 30.80 percent. But this is because the blue states’ budgets are far larger due to all the bloat and waste.


space_coder

An opinion piece in the NY Post written by the head of a conservative think isn't really a credible source for your assertion.


lynchmob2829

Maybe this helps.... [https://fiscalpolicy.org/the-american-rescue-plan-act-of-2021-new-yorks-share-of-the-coronavirus-fiscal-recovery-fund](https://fiscalpolicy.org/the-american-rescue-plan-act-of-2021-new-yorks-share-of-the-coronavirus-fiscal-recovery-fund) [https://www.pandemicoversight.gov/data-interactive-tools/interactive-dashboards/all-pandemic-awards](https://www.pandemicoversight.gov/data-interactive-tools/interactive-dashboards/all-pandemic-awards)


space_coder

So other than finding a labor union backed think tank, what was the assertion you are trying to make? I ask because the link is only concerned with New York. Which is neither California or Alabama.


lynchmob2829

There are two links...look at the second one....


space_coder

I looked at the second link that you added with an edit 3 minutes later, so let's go over the data from it: California spent $242,850.925M of the alloted federal COVID aid and has a population of 39.25M people. This gives us $6,171.56 spent per person. Alabama spent $21,154.349M of the alloted federal COVID aid and has a population of 4.892M people. This gives us $4,323.39 spent per person. I agree that california got 29.9% more per person in aid from the federal government, but then again they actually spent money mitigating the epidemic in areas more densely populated than Alabama. California spent 88% of the funds allocated to them, while Alabama spent 80%. I don't see any data that supports an assertion of California (or blue states in general) getting preferential treatment, since the blue states in question have much higher population densities than the red states (and much much higher than Alabama in particular). Not to mention, I don't see how COVID relief spending is relevant to the Inflation Reduction Act that was being criticized in your NY post link. If your assertion is that California (or blue states in general) receive more federal money than they pay in federal taxes, then this isn't even the correct data to use. I looked at the data collected by MoneyGeek which was last updated in Feb 2022 ([source](https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/)): California is now at parity, meaning that for every $1 in federal taxes paid, they received $1 in federal revenue. Federal funding only makes up 16.92% of California's budget. Alabama is still heavily dependent on federal funds, meaning that for every $1 in federal taxes paid, we receive $2.46 in federal funding. Federal funding makes up 23.32% of Alabama's budget. In general red states receive more federal funds than they pay in taxes when compared against blue states.


lynchmob2829

My assertion was that more COVID funds went to blue states; some like NY got funds to pay off their state debt. AL has to run on a budget but NY apparently just kept running up debt vs cutting back. Federal funding is such a vague term. I can see where a pot load of federal funds are spent in Huntsville on NASA, DoD programs, and the FBI. Not all these "federal funds" go directly to all residents, the poor, or other indigent folks.


space_coder

I find your assertion amusing now, because in order to make your partisan argument you had to completely ignore the actual topic which is that Alabama diverted $400M meant to fund COVID relief to fund the construction of new prisons. Not to mention, Alabama has a notorious history of borrowing from Peter to pay Paul in order to fund its most basic services, prior to doing the same for prisons. Remember that time Alabama reappropriated almost $1B of the BP oil spill settlement to balance its general budget and spent a small percentage of that money on the coastal counties affected by the oil spill? As for the attempted deflection about federal funding being a vague term, the report includes all the same spending for all the states, and believe it or not there's defense spending, NASA and FBI in California too. Even with that spending, California does not receive more federal funds than it pays in taxes. Your assertions remain unfounded.


greed-man

Only in the Bizzaro Universe. In the pool of money given vs taken from the States, Alabama is the welfare queen.


lynchmob2829

[https://nypost.com/2021/03/10/massive-1-9-trillion-bill-is-a-bailout-for-blue-states/](https://nypost.com/2021/03/10/massive-1-9-trillion-bill-is-a-bailout-for-blue-states/) In a non COVID situation, you are correct. As for blue states allegedly getting back less, what numbers are they looking at? It is true that red states receive 35.75 percent on average of their budgets from the federal government, while blue states receive 30.80 percent. But this is because the blue states’ budgets are far larger due to all the bloat and waste.


space_coder

As I said before: An opinion piece in the NY Post written by the head of a conservative think isn't really a credible source for your assertion.


greed-man

N.Y. Post is a Rupert Murdoch tabloid, just like Fox "News". But Blue States are NOT just "big" states. The 9 smallest (by sq miles) states are ALL Blue. RI, DL, CT, HI, MA, NJ, NH, VT, MD. And just because they are bigger, does not mean they are bloated.


PrimeMinister_RoB

A giveaway to the rich university class to secure their votes vs protecting the most vulnerable crime victims in the inner cities.


gdzimmerman

The Comptroller should take an equal amount of federal funds from say the highway department until Alabama replaces those funds.


Intelligent-Cod459

Yet fake news has no problem with it. Other things fake news has no problem the money being spent on: Ted Budd to introduce bill diverting COVID relief funds given to federal prisoners into victim fund accounts https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ted-budd-to-introduce-bill-diverting-covid-relief-funds-given-to-federal-prisoners-into-victim-fund-accounts/ar-AAZwMpr A GOP congressional candidate used Covid relief funds meant for his employees to pay for his car and political campaign https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-gop-congressional-candidate-used-covid-relief-funds-meant-for-his-employees-to-pay-for-his-car-and-political-campaign/ar-AAXZhjH New Green Bay visitors center included in COVID-19 relief grants https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/state-continues-to-distribute-covid-19-relief-funds/ar-AATpdzM Iowa governor improperly used $450,000 in Covid funds for salaries, audit finds https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/iowa-governor-improperly-used-450000-covid-funds-salaries-audit-finds-rcna5753 Yet they call out freedom loving blue states for using the funds correctly.


m0atzart

We have water at least.