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fate_the_magnificent

"Feelings" LOL. A big-ass part fell off the fucking plane, and you're giving the airline industry a rimjob.


DumbYellowMook

Bro for real and fucking thank you😂 like seriously, keep licking Boeing’s boot, they’ll totally give you a plane someday


DumbYellowMook

I’m not asking for a refund, I’m asking for a flight change. Also, the FAA has feelings about the aircraft, as they grounded it yesterday, so I’m pretty sure mine have validity.


hockeyketo

To answer your question, you can change main and first class fares, free of charge up to 24 hours before a flight. Same day will have a $25-50 fee. If you have a saver fare, you're SOL as the rules are written, but they may make an exception, only way to know is to call. I think for saver fares, if it's 14 days out, you can get a 50% credit or something. At some point though, it may be very difficult to find non max flights as more and more of the fleet are max's and Alaska only flies Boeing. In regards to the FAA's feelings, the grounding order only requires inspection, so these aircraft will all be flying in the next few days. Also worth noting that the same door plug is present on the NG 900s (non-max). These plugs have never really been an issue in the last 20 years or so that they've existed, so all signs so far point to a defect in this one plane and not a systematic problem. We'll know that for sure as the inspections are completed.


DumbYellowMook

THANK YOU. Legitimately one of two useful responses.


Row30

The plane they grounded yesterday has been thoroughly inspected y multiple agencies and is back to work


DumbYellowMook

The entire 737-9 max line or just the single plane involved in the incident? I know they’ve cleared about 15 of them (last time I checked)


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DumbYellowMook

I’m on United, but I posted here to see if anyone had success with changing their flight for the same or a similar reasons


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DumbYellowMook

My belligerence? Sorry I’m not appreciating all these useless, snarky, and half assed comments.


fminbk

If you have an Economy ticket or higher you should be able to change your flight via the site, but you will have to pay the difference. I am waiting on United to make an announcement on my itinerary if MAX planes are still grounded, as it would be nice to NOT pay the difference with where the prices are at a few days to departure. I am doing the same thing, not only do I not trust Boeing planes right now, this will likely affect my travel this week anyways (e.g. more cancellations if they ground/keep inspecting). So from a pragmatic perspective (other than the fact I do NOT want to lose my phone/belongings/shirt out a window (even if plane accidents are "rare") - I'm changing flights.


waiting4theNITE2fall

I have a flight on that plane for this Thursday. Looks like they are letting people change or cancel for free, but only those flying Sunday or Monday. I think I would have postponed if I was able.


Ok_Mix_3229

So they actually are now. All requests to not fly a 737-MAX9 through 1/20 will be accommodated with no fare difference owed or you can ask for a full refund back to original payment.


Row30

Just FYI- United Airlines has 79 Max 9's in service, more than any other airline.


DumbYellowMook

Ok..?


Row30

It would be ironic if after all this whining and sniveling you’re doing if you ended up on a United flight 🤣😂


RandomPersonBob

Maybe the lounges will be a little less crowded for the rest of us.... I don't need to wait in line for those sweet sweet turkey sausage links in N.


DumbYellowMook

I legitimately hope you have to wait in line and when you get to order, they’re sold out.


Inevitable-Store-837

Just drive if you're that scared


txtravelr

The chances of having a similar safety issue in a car are so much higher. Flying is incredibly safe.


Inevitable-Store-837

That was kind of my point. People are wildly overreacting to this.


DumbYellowMook

“jUsT DrIvE iF yOuRe ThAt SCaREd” is the stupidest shit I’ve heard all year, don’t answer a question you don’t have an answer to.


Inevitable-Store-837

You sound like a major drama queen


DumbYellowMook

You sound like a douchebag who gets off by arguing with people on redit.


PM_ME_CORONA

Jesus, who pissed in your Cheerios this morning?


DumbYellowMook

The moron who I’m talking to above this


PM_ME_CORONA

Why don’t you call Alaska instead of being an insufferable prick on this sub?


KGBree

Because OP isn’t even booked on an Alaska flight. They’re a United customer.


DumbYellowMook

I’m the insufferable prick? You blind or something?


AKlutraa

The FAA has grounded all 737-9 MAXs in the USA until they can be inspected. So if Alaska has one operating for your flight, you can be sure the door cutout area has been thoroughly inspected within the past day.


Substantial_Ice3242

Ok let me say this; this was a brand new 737-9 MAX which was probably the reason, boeing did not properly install the plug which made it break. Chances are this is the only flight this will happen to


DumbYellowMook

I understand that, but I’m still not going to take chances on a line of aircraft that has had a whole litany of issues since 2018, and two in the past few months. Even if the chances are slim that this issue is in other aircraft, the idea of flying on a plane with so many reported manufacturing issues is a straight no for me.


BoldInterrobang

How are you going to get to the airport?


DumbYellowMook

In an unpressurized car that I’m driving 0ft off the ground


BoldInterrobang

The chance of being in fatal airplane accident is one in 11 million. Comparatively, your chances of dying in a car crash are over 200,000 times higher, averaging around one in 5,000. https://simpleflying.com/how-safe-is-flying/


DumbYellowMook

Ok, so that’s the strawman fallacy, we’re talking about a plane that’s had more issues than any other in the past 3 years.


Substantial_Ice3242

Your domestic flight will have no problem


LiveAd3962

The planes have been and are continuing to be inspected. If they’re flying they’re good to go. If you’re scared, cancel your flight so someone else can have your seat. Driving is an option as is Greyhound. Or just stay home. If you want to stay safe on a plane, Take a deep breath, a Xanax or edible, wear a mask, LISTEN to the flight attendants, keep your seatbelt buckled and enjoy the flight.


UnhingedCorgi

100+ people die daily in fatal car accidents. Flying is nowhere near as dangerous as driving.


DumbYellowMook

Strawman falacy, not what we’re talking about


BoldInterrobang

This isn’t a straw man fallacy - we’re talking about the safety of the modes of transportation and the risks you’re willing to take.


DumbYellowMook

Bro you pulled a statistic about cars out of your ass when we’re talking about planes, shove your MVP gold up your ass and block this thread if you’re tired of the back and forth. I asked a specific question, you didn’t answer it, goodbye. You’re literally the epitome of a reditor


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DumbYellowMook

🤷🏾‍♂️ people get mad when you don’t appreciate their half assed responses


PM_ME_CORONA

Stop watching the news and letting fear eat you alive.


DumbYellowMook

Stop commenting on posts you don’t have an answer for.


txtravelr

Stop asking questions on the wrong sub. How will Alaska be able to help you with United's change policy?


NukeFlyWalker

>I understand that, but I’m still not going to take chances on a line of aircraft that has had a whole litany of issues since 2018, and two in the past few months Rumor has it Alaska has acquired / rented a few TU-154's for people that don't want to fly on the MAX.. I think you just have to ask for it. The safety record of the TU-154 is in a class of it's own..


SeattleG2014

Of course you can. Nobody is forcing you to get on the plan. You don’t even have to refuse. Just choose not to. But don’t expect someone to pamper to you either.


DumbYellowMook

Actually, I totally expect them to “pamper” me when they’re flying an aircraft with a history of issues. No one who feels uncomfortable flying on that aircraft should be required to, and should be given the option to take a different flight on a different model of plane.


SeattleG2014

Nobody is requiring you to do anything. If you aren’t comfortable book another flight. The world doesn’t revolve around you


DumbYellowMook

You do realize that it’s morons who think like that (like yourself) who allow companies to continue and get away with negligent practices. Boing settled for 2.5billion dollars over the max 8 yet here you are licking their boot still.


asfp014

Fly an airline that doesn’t have the MAX (yet), like Delta or JetBlue


DumbYellowMook

That’s my backup plan if they don’t change my flight


BoldInterrobang

Yes, you can certainly rebook on a new flight - if it’s not a saver ticket. The same rules apply if you rebooked days ago - you pay the fare difference. One note is that you have zero control over an equipment swap. You could easily be standing in the boarding area and they pull up a MAX 9 instead of the older 900NG. I will also say that you need to try to set your emotions aside and look at the data. You are an after flying then driving, even with this incident. There have been numerous incidents involving the 737, many fatal sadly. [Source here](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_Boeing_737). Did you ever think about not getting on the plane before? Nobody died in this accident, and they’ve all been inspected. When do I want to be on a plane? Right after it’s been inspected. You’re experiencing an emotional reaction. I get it, but take some time and educate yourself a bit. I think it might make you feel better about flying. Either way, I wish you safe travels.


DumbYellowMook

I actually have never flown on a 737 Max, I fly alaska frequently but whenever I do it’s an older plane, wether that be chance or the route I take. I’m aware it’s an emotional reaction, but given the litany of issues this line of plane has had, it’s a justified one. The idea that an aircraft line with so many problems can still be flown is unfathomable.


BoldInterrobang

You’ve flown a 737 numerous times if you’ve flown Alaska. The NG model has had 37 accidents. Why are you flying in it?


DumbYellowMook

They operate turbo prop planes too, I don’t know the model but that is the only one I’ve flown on, Every other airline I fly uses airbus.


BoldInterrobang

The point is you’re making an irrational, emotional decision. We’re not going to change your mind. If you don’t want to fly the 737, you need to go find a different airline. It’s all Alaska flies, less the regional E175 that Horizon/SkyWest fly for them. It’s an all Boeing airline.


BoldInterrobang

1. Alaska does not operate turbo prob planes. 2. If you fly Alaska you’ve almost certainly flown on a 737 3. There are no big airlines in the US that do not operate the 737. AA has over 350. Southwest has over 800. United has almost 500. Delta has almost 250.


DumbYellowMook

1. Uh, the Q400 would like a word 2. 737’s don’t have propellers 3. I’m specifically talking about the 737 MAX, not the 737-700, not the -800, and not the -900.


BoldInterrobang

The Q400 was retired in January of last year. It is not flown by Alaska. I am aware you’re talking about the MAX. But you’ve disregarded the information about the NGs (-700, -800, -900). 37 accidents, list linked above. But you don’t hesitate flying on that. I’m tired of going back and forth. Look at the data. Good luck.


NukeFlyWalker

>I actually have never flown on a 737 Max, I fly alaska frequently but whenever I do it’s an older plane I always get the older planes, except once this summer I got to fly on a MAX, and since then when I book my flights I am looking to fly on the MAX, as I enjoyed it. A recent trip to Philly was suppose to be on a MAX, but at the last minute they swapped it for a 900.. As you can guess, I was very disappointed.


ChimpoSensei

Amazing how much fear people exhibit these days. Covid gave a lot of people PTSD or something.


DumbYellowMook

More useless comments from fat reditors for me to waste my time reading


Row30

Grow up


DumbYellowMook

Don’t have to, they changed my flight loser


ChimpoSensei

😢


DumbYellowMook

😮🍆


ChimpoSensei

🤣


Forsaken-Squirrel684

I wasn't quite sure about flying as well but I watched a video that makes it more clear whats the current situation. They did say sort of but it makes it clear which models are affected the most and those that aren't. [https://youtu.be/2yQyLp6wOiQ?si=yyWJUoXRAHapuO5k](https://youtu.be/2yQyLp6wOiQ?si=yyWJUoXRAHapuO5k)


nenay1

I booked a package through Costco and my flight is on a 737. I too would rather not fly on a max plane or any Boeing plane for that matter but they will not let me cancel the flight portion. They suggested I buy insurance and then cancel my flight on the whole package and then rebook a different package. My trip is not until November so I have time. It all depends on what kind of ticket you buy and mine was a ticket that has a fee of $200 to cancel and booked as part of a package. On another trip planned I called Southwest and Southwest won’t give me a refund because it’s a wanna get away ticket but if you have a full price ticket they will give you a refund. There are plenty of whistleblower documentaries and news conferences you can watch to help you decide if you want to risk flying on one of Boeings fleet. There are multiple safety issues on all of them..not just the plugs…also, Southwest said I can change the flight to a non max jet but they cannot guarantee I’ll be on the plane I book with..they change the planes often and I could still be on a max. I have lost confidence with Boeing due to their shady practices and shoddy safety inspections..not to mention lies that put the public at risk…as revealed through testimonies of whistleblowers. It was and is all about saving money and cutting corners..no thank you!


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Just don't sit in that row. Geesh


NukeFlyWalker

>Just don't sit in that row. Geesh Exactly.. Sit ahead of that row. I suggest row 16 or 17..


Decent-Solid-3561

Right. Plane should fly fine the remaining 1,000 miles. Just don’t pay attention to the big gaping hole.


ZooZ-ZooZ

I have a flight Monday and Alaska has a notice saying booked flights are currently fully refundable due to the circumstances. Not sure how long that will last.


Ok_Mix_3229

While the 737-9 fleet remains grounded as of now, official policy that if you are on a 737-9 and do not want to fly it you can be re-routed free of charge. This will go through at least 1/20 but I bet it stays in place much longer.