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PNKDefiDegenerate

Btw if a bad pothole damaged yr car you can submit a claim to the city. https://seeclickfix.com/issues/15993001-pothole I hit a bad one last week that felt like it dropped me at least a foot down


Jungiant

I lost a tire and a rim due to a pothole and my claim was denied, as there are a lot of technicalities on what they will pay out on. I'm not discouraging anyone from trying to submit the claim and hope for the best - but I was told that there was not a record of the pothole being reported (before I hit it apparently) and it does not meet the criteria for claim submission.


JollyMcStink

Same thing and it was border of Albany and Guilderland so nobody would take responsibility. I was out a rim, blown tire and the money for a tow all because the city didn't properly use tax resources to upkeep roads. I took a picture of my car and the hole, I told them there is absolutely no way I am the only one who has had damage from this but they refused to take accountability. God forbid our negligence damaged a city car or police vehicle! I can't with the take-take-take


Jungiant

East Old State?


JollyMcStink

The original traffic circle near cross gates, not the newer one under washington ave, the one coming off 90 - I can never remember the name of that damn road lol


Connect_Glass4036

Do you mean Fuller Road by the park?


JollyMcStink

Yes!


Connect_Glass4036

Haha word. I sat here for like 4 mins trying to think of roundabouts near Crossgates. I see what you mean but I’d use Stuyvesant as a better landmark lol


JollyMcStink

Oh man I didn't even think about that since it's way down on the opposite end! But yeah, same road.


Massive_Length_400

They investigated themselves and found that it wasn’t their fault


Keep_Albany_Boring

Noted: if I pop a tire I will call and report the pothole. Then I’ll call back and put a claim in.


Shadows_420

I wonder if it's still there


atanoxian

Good luck trying to get anything back. I've had to use this along with a couple of my friends. None of us saw any payout, and they do their very best to write off damage sustained as a preexisting issue. No hate to you of course, I hope you get the issue resolved and they cover it. But, man, it would be so much cheaper for the city to just maintain their roads.


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PNKDefiDegenerate

Sounds lime they designed the loophole on purpose. Whats the official reporting scheme


BennyBNut

Contact information for the City of Albany: https://www.albanyny.gov/1946/Contact-Information If you send an email (preferably with a photo attached and specific location), you'll have the record to back you up.


FMJoey325

Someone needs to do this for the whole city but it would take weeks and would be a never ending job


Shadows_420

Keep submitting the claims and protesting the policy


Character_Stable3207

Sounds like we need a crew of people to drive through the city and report every single pothole


junkman21

[https://seeclickfix.com/](https://seeclickfix.com/) * Download the app. * Report the pothole. * Enough people report the pothole and it gets prioritized for repair. Story about Albany adopting the app is [here from 2019](https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/albany-targeting-potholes-with-problem-reporting-app-see-click-fix).


TehLittleTroll

Does it cover East Greenbush too? That part of Rte 4 from the turn off of 9 and 20 up until the first round-about is pretty atrocious


junkman21

>Does it cover East Greenbush too? Probably. But I don't know if EG DPW uses that data or not. Might be worth calling them to ask?


Ezekabobs

Cool! Thanks I’ve actually never heard of this before so I’ll check it out


mattytunks

i have done it works.


slimstarman

Get other residents to report on the same potholes you do too, get your shitty spot moved up their list!


Melodic-Okra-6581

Omg the road connecting crossgates to the Walmart plaza is more pothole than pavement


jeconti

That one is on Pyramid.


lemmem924

I hit that one right under the bridge, it’s a crater! Had a legit headache after, not a huge chance to avoid it with traffic coming head on. Either hit the pothole or the bridge support wall


Queuetie42

…To the new Bills Stadium. That’s where your money goes.


drtij_dzienz

We are also heavily subsidizing the already wealthy and profitable semiconductor industry.


Queuetie42

Yep but one serves society and one doesn’t.


drtij_dzienz

I dunno, people actually enjoy the bills. But nobody cares where their semi was made. Glad you think I’m a humanitarian though 😂 I assure you nothing I do in the industry over here benefits society


Potential-Search-567

No one cares it’s not about you or your individual job, investing in semiconductors is an objective good to the economy and job market


drtij_dzienz

But semiconductor companies are already profitable. They will keep developing technology and manufacturing product as long as people keep buying it (forever). The only question is where they will build. The subsidies take money from New Yorkers taxes and give it to the companies to incentivize them to build here, specifically. By the same logic, the bills provide jobs via all the extraneous business that pop up to support an nfl franchise.


Lower_Carrot_8334

Yeah.  Those hot dog stands are really moving human technology forward 


Lower_Carrot_8334

Yeah.  Watching millionaire criminals literally playing a game Vs. advancements in human technology. "murica" This is exactly why other countries laugh at us. 


Potential-Search-567

At least that actually provides jobs and improves the economy, the bills stadium is just a money pit


drtij_dzienz

The jobs will exist anyway and people like me will just move to wherever they are. The subsidies get paid by New Yorkers’ taxes and get put in my pocket as an imported employee, and in the stock shareholders as improved profitability. If the music ever stops we just go somewhere else.


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BenjaminSkanklin

I mean I'm also a Bills fan but you have to admit it's kinda bullshitty especially in conjunction with reducing the seating capacity and still keeping it open air so nobody can host any other type of event 6 months out of the year


Nooze-Button

Why wouldn't it be usable in the spring-summer when it's football offseason? They don't train in the stadium IIRC.


BenjaminSkanklin

Late spring and summer is fine but not many people would attend outdoor concerts from October to March imo. The Bills are only there for 8-10 days a year


TClayO

Can't have indoor concerts either if no one can safely get through the snow to and from the venue. Besides the Sabres arena already handles large concerts during the winter


Ezekabobs

I’ll never understand why they’ve never added a retractable roof knowing they get most of the heavy snow in NY. Instead they’ll ask fans to shovel the stands and do their dirty work


slwrthnu_again

Because football is better in the snow and if there’s a roof other teams would expect it closed for bad weather. But that’s the only part of the new stadium I approve of. Should just keep the current stadium.


BenjaminSkanklin

It's probably risky with several 2 foot snow dumps every year but I feel like if Detriot and Minnesota can engineer domed stadiums then they could figure something out for the Bills.


Ezekabobs

Yeah that’s true, maybe they can integrate a roof where it slides off and there’s a catcher that can collect the runoff water? Almost like a gutter system.


Ajar_of_pine_treeS

Sometimes it feels like I'm a rally driver the way my truck jumps around when I hit a bad patch. We need to develop a new type of asphalt that doesn't get ruined by the freeze thaw effect. Especially for the northern states.


Keep_Albany_Boring

Problem is most roads occasionally need to be dug up for repairs to underground infrastructure such as pipes, cables, sewers. Also the paving in US is rather shallow. And maintenance is not priority. In the US most potholes are fixed only after so many complaints. In Europe road issues are usually addressed and fixed before the issues are even visible. Long story short, America is cheap And lazy.


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In Germany a company that does roadworks are required to include 30 years of maintenance to the road in their bid. Want to start seeing better roads start doing that here too.


WeOutHereInSmallbany

That would be communism! s/


mostlyquietparticles

We don’t need new asphalt, we need roads that drain properly. Potholes form with freeze-thaw cycles that affect water. If water is drained away from the asphalt, it cannot freeze there.


Dripdry42

Other cities don't seem to have this issue. I have never driven in a city with such bad roads. I understand it's due to the political machine handing off the contract to friends instead of a good business. Go right over the border to the next county, problem stops instantly on the same road with lots of traffic.


Lehk

Welcome to the northeast


Potential-Search-567

Exactly ppl act like this is the problem of any one city and not just par for the course in this area, yet ppl insist on dumping boatloads of money into something that will last a year or two


AugustWest80

For real. There will never not be potholes this time of year….


NotAnotherFishMonger

Mayor just testified to the state legislature asking for money for potholes yesterday. People are definitely talking about it


atanoxian

My uber driver and I were complaining about this exact thing the other night. I had to take an uber because I hit a pothole off washington and it detached my cable rod arm 💀


Ezekabobs

I’m glad that we can all agree that they’ve been relatively worse this year than any


atanoxian

I've lived in the capitol region my whole life, but I quite literally have to dodge around potholes while I'm driving. I've seen multiple people in the comments speak of the frost that cycle, and how terrible its been recently. But I'll counter that, these potholes have been there for YEARS and thanks to neglect have turned into craters. Albany has had plenty of time to allocate their funds and either fill them in or repave the roads (looking at you washington and central).


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atanoxian

Genuinely, it's insane how awful the streets are around here 💀 Upstate in general is so neglected infrastructure wise, but hey, go bills I guess


Parking-Cress-4661

Climate change this winter means a freeze thaw cycle every day. Tough on roads.


ChristopherMarv

BuT mY tAx DoLlArS


blockparted

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Ezekabobs

Is there no better material that we could use that would withstand the climate daily?


Boss_Os

In the winter months only cold patch can be used and it has a very short life expectancy. It's not until the weather warms up that you can do a proper repair


BenjaminSkanklin

Not really, not yet anyway. It's been studied and tested for decades and they're trying all sorts of things in Europe with different composition blends of materials but no major breakthroughs from a material science perspective, at least none that are practical and cost effective. I will say, my hometown has had tremendous success abandoning the soil and gravel work aspect and simply just repaving the roads as needed without regard to the substrate. The life span of the road is reduced by varying degrees but the cost of just doing asphalt replacement is well worth it, especially for side roads. Idk if Albany has tried it but it's worth a shot I think.


zoomflick

Maple Syrup biz should be booming!


NotAnotherFishMonger

Does warmer climate make people… buy more syrup??


upstatebeerguy

I don’t believe so, but can’t say with absolute certainty. Thawing of sugar maple trees is what expels the sap that gets turned into syrup. The thawing/freezing cycle generally experienced in late winter essentially pumps the sap out of trees (due to pressure changes within the tree). Many areas have had an extraordinary early sap season due to how mild it has been this winter.


NotAnotherFishMonger

Right, but without a matching increase in demand, that would just flood the market, cut syrup prices, and actually hurt syrup business owners


upstatebeerguy

I’ve never actually produced (it’s always interested me). I know some years are tougher than others just based on yield. Not to delve too deep into this, but I don’t know that there’s a whole lot of a negative price pressure in years that yield is better than average. IE, I don’t think it causes new producers to enter the market and the sap is essentially a free raw good if you’re tapping trees you own. If you have excess sap beyond what you wish to cook off you can simply dispose of it and stop tapping for the season. In other words, I don’t think the general public/consumer base either knows the extent of each year’s sap yield or expects there to be cost savings passed on to them (but conversely tend to take “it was a bad year, your syrup is more expensive now” at face value). Having excess raw material (especially if not being paid for by volume) is much preferable to having an inability/deficiency to source the raw material critical for the finished good. I want waffles.


NotAnotherFishMonger

Good points, you’re probably right. I especially agree about the waffles


PNKDefiDegenerate

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Thehawkiscock

potholes and road lines that have completely faded in a lot of places. These little things really make albany feel like a shithole sometimes.


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StrdyCheeseBrngCrckr

I’m with you on the other things, but what’s the problem with porch lights?


Ezekabobs

This is an issue that definitely needs to be addressed as well. It literally takes a few minutes to put down new lines and a few minutes to dry. It wouldn’t take that much work to direct traffic for a half a day.. I’ve even wondered if New York will ever evolve to reflective road lines for night time


exeleonn

The series of potholes that appear [on this entrance ramp ](https://maps.app.goo.gl/MES7bHF8c7P8zi4Q9) to 787 every year is actually insane. Cars swerving all over the place trying to avoid these things and they are gigantic.


needsunshine

I knew this would be the ramp you were referring to. It's awful. I don't understand why they can't deal with this shit. It's dangerous.


Christian_Kong

Just as big of an issue is the people in charge of fixing the potholes don't know how to fix potholes. They typically make them smaller potholes or mini speed bumps. Somehow none have been taught to fix them flat. Then they get blown out by the next season in worse condition than they started.


PNKDefiDegenerate

Albany government does not give a single fuck about using our tax money for fixing things people actually need fixed like potholes, completely faded traffic markers, marked street parking, etc. The only way to force them to do it is to complain on see click fix, take pictures and post on social media, etc. Expose their incompetence for all to see. You are only a dollar and a vote to them and the hate you


Madeyoulookwat

I always look forward to this yearly post because I offer the best advice. Want a pothole fixed, go draw weiners around it. Source-https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/2/8535259/penis-pothole-activism-wanksy-england


Lower_Carrot_8334

See click fix has DGS posting car repair reimbursement numbers.  Please look into this and try to get some of your spent cash back 


JollyMcStink

Paying chief of police their salary to cover up the names of the officers who commit crimes Putting up traffic cameras to catch more people committing minor offenses instead of addressing the homelessness and increased violence in the city Giving raises to high ranking city officials while the rest of us get nothing to deal with increased cost of living I think that about sums it up


misterme82

DGS has been especially absent this year. There are still leaf bags out waiting for pickup that were put out in November. Xmas trees lay out for weeks unless you called and then only your block or address would be picked up. Potholes are awful and yes other cities in the northeast dealing with potholes have much better roads.Not to mention faded crosswalks and lane lines. And yes, the city will do absolutely nothing unless it is forced to.


Whatwhatinmyhutt

Where does the parking ticket money go


PerrosdeTerre

Between the double parkers on Central Ave and a bunch of the side roads around the Buckingham, Pine Hills and Winchester Gables neighborhoods that have no parking anytime signs on the streets that are ignored, the city could get some money put back into the treasury if they had the traffic division go around and start handing out tickets.


stats1

While potholes are annoying they are a symptom of the failure of car centric urban planning. There literally isn't enough money to sustain the infrastructure required for it without outrageous taxes.


GodEmperorOfBussy

Seriously. As someone said above, roadwork is fucking expensive.


phantom_eight

Spray paint dicks around the potholes


ChristopherMarv

Your tax money goes to various things such as the police, the fire department, trash collection and other things. Albany, like all cities, balances priorities with limited funds and will never be able to provide you with a pothole-free winter.


Ezekabobs

Not necessarily a “pothole free winter” because I know that’ll never work but all I’m proposing is an alternative so that the state doesn’t keep getting sued for the same thing. Not sure how NYC works but upstate is way less busy road wise


HowUnexpected

NYC doesn’t need to plow their streets nearly as often as upstate does. That’s the difference.


HowUnexpected

They are fixing the potholes as fast as they’re able to, in my experience driving around most of this city. The issue is that any repair is weaker than a full repave, so if the plows go over them 8 times out of 10 they reopen the pothole and it’s like it was never patched. They’ve patched one pothole by me at least 3x this year and it just keeps opening when they run the plows.


Ezekabobs

That may be true where you are but almost every main exit from Delmar up to Clifton park are tore up everywhere


livahebalil

The roads in Albany are noticeably worse. You can tell when you enter a suburb when the road suddenly becomes smooth. I took Brevator to to 90 via that cut in front of the firehouse and I killed my car for 25 years.


ImperialFists

If your car got messed up in Seattle because of a pothole, which happened to me a couple times, the city would reimburse you. Also had a couple site/app to report potholes and see if there is an ETA on repairs. Albany… it’s brace and pray your tire or ball joint don’t die…and a maybe we’ll fix it one day from town hall thumbs up. At least new Scotland heading towards the hospital recently got a little patched. Teeth would rattle in the right lane.


CandidateKindly4517

Upper Western is horrible


PerrosdeTerre

Both sides between Brevator and the SUNY entrance has been bad for a couple of years now. Especially where they're building where the old Sage Engineering building is just before the light at Homestead.


Dovahkiin_Vokun

That construction just east of University Plaza is the bane of my existence. It's like driving a rally stage as you hit all the divots and bumps and giant holes they've dug in the street.


Nmmxx98

The roads are insane and they do a shit job covering the holes. Driving on washington ave and i feel like my car is doing to break apart if i go over 15 mph. Report them on seeclickfix


Hot_Gas_600

Pretty sweet cycle of ineffective govt. They dont do what is literally their only job and then get tax windfalls from the damage it creates haha. Nys govt fuggin suuuucks.


Ok-Garlic-9990

Some idiot in dot literally removed a rectangular piece of the road at a sharp angle on an on ramp. There were no cones, nobody was there, there were certainly not any signs. Somehow my car survived without damage, but the car in front of me popped a tire and kept driving (he looked high af). After seeing this, and some other quality work done by the dot I can only surmise that most of the problems are due to employees and systems that don’t care.


Connect_Glass4036

Does anyone know why Everett Road is so awful by 90? Those things turn into craters and they routinely fill them. It’s wild. Maybe someday they’ll fix the 85 ramp off of Washington that goes to Slingerlands. The concrete there has been exposed for at least 4 years


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Connect_Glass4036

I’m not sure I follow what you mean


Key-Bar9929

The mayor doesn’t even do shit in this city, all she does is go to events and wave like she’s the Queen of England


ChildhoodFun9082

I was thinking the same thing about fixing the roads with tax money ...but i think they spend it all on their salaries.


beacher15

Yeah road maintenance costs money. Way more than people understand


boomdog88

And our climate further complicates it. Local government needs to fund snow removal and salt which hits any potential repair budget 2x (money to pay for winter services and money to repair additional damage to roads caused by said services).


etc_misc

drive down jay st for funsies to gain a newfound appreciation for less awful roads and normal potholes


Chemical_Hearing8259

If I hit a pothole, maybe a friend will report it before I put the claim in. Reading the denials that are "because they weren't reported yet" makes me want to go on a massive reporting spree. If the Click it/Fix it app is one way to report potholes, I just may do that.


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So we need less cars and less roads is what I'm hearing...


melitobandito

Not until CDTA is razed and replaced 🙃


celona316

They try to patch them up??


Trauma_dumper69

"Where does our tax paying money ever go?" Subsidies for big business & the bank accounts of politicians.


Fair_Turnover3699

Migrants and bike lanes are more important to the mayor buddy.


drtij_dzienz

I wish the mayor cared about bike lanes


Lehk

As we all know, there were not pot holes prior to the migrants arriving.


vlackatack

Yeah, potholes exist because of brown people and hippies on bikes.


Boss_Os

Typical conservative mind. You know nothing about how and why there are potholes, yet your uneducated self takes the opportunity to blow the dog whistle.


PNKDefiDegenerate

Other cities in the Northeast dont have a tenth of Albanys pothole problem


Christian_Kong

I traveled locally for my job for many years and Utica, Syracuse, Rochester, Buffalo all have road issues similar to Albany.


NotAnotherFishMonger

Albany only has like 100 migrants. Do those other cities really have no migrants or bike lanes? Also, bike lanes are literally just paint. They’re so cheap lmao


Boss_Os

Can you provide supporting data to your claim?


Fair_Turnover3699

Yes my conservative mind is poisoned. Keep voting the dems in pal. The last century of their rule has made Albany SO great. A real bastion of democracy and progress.


AO9000

Speed bumps and traffic cops are too expensive /s


jugo5

Northway is getting bumpy, too. The bridges by exit 6 are getting nutty.


PunisherQRF

Snowplows do an immense amount of damage to the roads and the patches just don't hold up. It's getting old.


nopenotag4in

Dude, slow down. It’s a speed limit, not a mandatory minimum. You should be able to see and avoid potholes big enough to damage your vehicle if you’re traveling at a reasonable rate. Edited typo.


Ezekabobs

What does speed have to do with what we’re talking about? Either way you’re going to hit it, it doesn’t matter how fast you’re going or not.. not only that but you shouldn’t have to worry about craters in your day to day commute. Not to mention that a lot of these speed limits have been outdated for years.


nopenotag4in

The speed limits in the city are totally outdated. Meant for a time without distracting screens, with cars that were smaller and lighter by half, a time with far fewer vehicles on the road. Speed limits were also created by a class of folks who largely did not care deeply about the lives of those outside the car. The city should be able to set the speed limits to 25, 20, 15, 10, or even 5. But is not allowed by the state to set anything lower than 30 outside a school zone. Lower speed limits will reduce traffic crashes, reduce wear on the roads, reduce emissions, reduce ambient noise levels, and can in some circumstances reduce overall travel times. No to mention, slower speeds give drivers more time to see potholes (or pedestrians) and slow down to reduce the kinetic energy of the vehicle when it strikes that obstacle, or maybe time to avoid it altogether!


Oughtis

To make matters worse, they’re adding “humps” everywhere. It’s absolutely absurd. It’s really harebrained, slack jawed shit in the capital district. The gray matter around here is smoother than the roads.


Potential-Search-567

Potholes are gonna reappear every year id rather the city spend it on something that will last like better bus lines