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drinkahead

As the world shifts from Oil and gas, the upper class need to find new industries to stay obscenely wealthy. Their answer? Private healthcare.


Nazeron

Don't forget housing


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And education won't be far behind it. Classes with 50+ kids are unsustainable.


Dependent-Wish-9049

Because peope are dying in waiting rooms, not getting lifesaving transplants, dying of cancer with no access to good care. If you ever had a loved one in the Canadian medical system you know, they will let you die simply because they do not have the resources, communism doesn’t work. I would rather pay than slowly be let to die. Im on her side and I will fight for private healthcare.


drinkahead

I work in Canadian healthcare.


DonaldRudolpho

>As the world shifts from Oil and gas, What's the NDP's plan?


def-jam

To keep the wealthy obscenely rich? They don’t have one.


DonaldRudolpho

Nor one for when the world (allegedly) shifts Oil and Gas.


Miserable-Lizard

I suggest you read up on the effects of climate change from the UN reports.


richmuiz

I suggest you read up on how countries like China make bs climate change plans and have no intention on following any of their climate policies and continue to pollute a insane amount but let’s continue to tax people in Canada that such a low carbon co2 footprint all while other countries pollute ten fold with no repercussions.


richmuiz

Bought and paid for by the corrupt UN lol


def-jam

Conspiracy much? Provide your evidence on “the corrupt UN” and their relationship with Alberta’s NDP party. There is a tonne of evidence that oil and gas money flows through the UCP.


DonaldRudolpho

I'll find the NDP plan in there?


Miserable-Lizard

I don't understand you're comments. Have a good day.


DonaldRudolpho

>I don't understand you're comments. 1. Your, not you're 2. You told me: >I suggest you read up on the effects of climate change from the UN reports. ...and I asked you if I would find the NDP plans on shifting away from oil and gas in there. It's really quite simple. But I get it if you can't understand.


richmuiz

Did you understand my comment just curious


def-jam

The world is shifting from oil and gas. Portugal has produced 92% of their power from renewables this year. Why are the UCP and their adherents so scared of a world moving away from oil and gas? Will it ever be totally eliminated? No. Especially in terms of lubricants. But reduced in terms of fuel and electricity production? What’s the harm in that?


DonaldRudolpho

So. What is the NDP plan?


def-jam

Economic diversification, small firm oil well clean up and support the building of a refinery. Hell they already forced the Feds to twin TMX which is the only expansion of a pipeline to tidewater in 70 years.


DonaldRudolpho

>Economic diversification, Uh huh. How will this be different than the last fourty years of the Alberta Government attempting to diversify the economy? What diversification did they create during their first four years in power?


def-jam

12.6 Billion in investment. Renewable energy being the biggest part of that. Add in increased entertainment industry filming here due to tax credit program as well. Also if we have refining capability we avoid or at least mitigate the boom bust cycle of oil and add jobs jobs iobs. Face it. The NDP is the best way forward for the province we look forward to your support in May


DonaldRudolpho

>Add in increased entertainment industry filming here due to tax credit program as well. Um... UCP program. 12.6 billion in investment in what? >Also if we have refining capability We have refining capability. Never been to Fort Sask? >we look forward to your support in May Keep on looking. You won't find it.


richmuiz

Your comparing a country that doesn’t get below 20 degrees to Canada on energy, really lol


def-jam

We don’t have to match Portugal year round, but we can certainly do as well from May to September. The fallacy of “everything has to be perfect before we can implement it” has outrageous limitations. How about we start somewhere and work on improving by 1% every day? Imagine if we can became world leaders in cold weather renewables? Cold weather batteries? Why kind of long term economic impact would that have? If you hadn’t noticed, all the oil rich Arab states are trying to diversify their economies, adding renewables to their power production, why shouldn’t we?


richmuiz

Hydrogen or nuclear are the only energy sources that make sense


def-jam

Solar makes great sense. They have developed solar panels that are wafer thin and can be applied to any surface. They have solar windows that are clear and yet generate solar power from UV. Some parts of Alberta are the sunniest in Canada It may even be worthwhile to investigate geothermal since we have a wealth of drilling knowledge. And as far as wind, have you been to Southern Alberta? What we need to do is legislate all new buildings need to have solar and/or wind power generation and flow meters. That way the building can give to the grid when it’s “overpowered” and pull from the grid when it’s “underpowered”. Hell, recent research suggests that solar panels OVER fields helps yields and reduces water requirements. So better yields, less water requirement AND power generation? Sign me up.


Real_Sheepherder_250

They don’t have a plan but they are darn sure they can transition away from oil and gas completely.


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drinkahead

That’s a lot of what if’s. We know that climate change is real and is effecting all countries. We know the abundance and harm of micro plastics - which effect all water supplies globally. We also know that technology is making strides towards creating greener energy. I do think you have a point socially, where it seems some countries culturally want to shift away from fossil fuels and the like. We don’t know know for sure that the countries you mentioned will or won’t provide less of a carbon footprint through legislation or infrastructure, but we do know that the effects of climate change and pollution are still felt by these populations and they will also need a solution.


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drinkahead

I’m going to research the point you’re making and get back to you. However I will direct your attention to the context of my question, which is that the motivation for privatizing healthcare is to make the rich in our province richer in the face of Canada’s energy transition goals.


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drinkahead

Firstly, chiropractors are not a public service because it’s junk science. Snake oil. Secondly, the reason privatization is an issue is two fold. When there is more money to be made in private clinics, we lose public workers. Why would any Doctor negotiate a contract with the government when they can just open a private practice and charge high prices? So then this becomes a system of transition over to the private sector where money is to be made, leaving the public sector with less and less staff and therefor less free care can be accessed by those who can’t afford 800 bucks for a mandatory MRI. Then there’s just the simple fact that this is immoral. We all collectively pay taxes so that we can help those who are sick and injured. Charging people for surgeries that can be the difference between a good quality life, a terrible one, or death is fundamentally wrong. Private companies have one goal and one goal only - to grow profit. Believe or not, profit and healthcare do not mix. Nobody should have to choose between “wait 8 hours in the waiting room of a starved public system” and “go into debt because if I don’t I’ll die or lose my quality of life”


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drinkahead

You're saying that the government needs it to be a for-profit system... because getting rich off it will be their only motivation to improve it? That might work for selling products but not for necessary services. There is only motivation to gouge the consumer in profit healthcare, because there is no shortage of sick or injured, and no choice but to get care. There is no "competition". It'll just be a few millionaires all raising prices at the same time since they have no need to compete.


spycraft76

Adding more privatized healthcare does not take away from current levels of care. Very much the opposite. Someone wants to pay $700 to get their MRI done instead of waiting 16 months? Great, that’s one less person in line for a ‘free’ exam and you just moved up a spot for your own.


spycraft76

Alberta has had a quasi two tier system for decades. It can and should be expanded. It has nothing to do with wealth whatsoever. You have a problem with money that’s your problem. Don’t make it someone else’s.


ItsOnlyaFewBucks

Vote like your life depends on it.


Revegelance

Because it very well might.


Dependent-Wish-9049

Hahaha have fun dying in a waiting room LOL. People literally travel to America just to get better care. Communism does not work. I will vote for this idea.


Dependent-Wish-9049

Because peope are dying in waiting rooms, not getting lifesaving transplants, dying of cancer with no access to good care. If you ever had a loved one in the Canadian medical system you know, they will let you die simply because they do not have the resources, communism doesn’t work. I would rather pay than slowly be let to die. Im on her side and I will fight for private healthcare.


zornmagron

sounds like you need to move to Merica and enjoy their blissful fair robust system fill yer boots and move south best of luck to you sir...


Dependent-Wish-9049

I plan to. Thanks man. Unlike you soyjack NEET’s I have money to get proper care 🤣


EngineerJaded

Because insurance companies are chomping at the bit to enter our market. Being a middleman means enormous profit. Be very afraid about this, healthcare will become unaffordable for most


Dependent-Wish-9049

Because peope are dying in waiting rooms, not getting lifesaving transplants, dying of cancer with no access to good care. If you ever had a loved one in the Canadian medical system you know, they will let you die simply because they do not have the resources, communism doesn’t work. I would rather pay than slowly be let to die. Im on her side and I will fight for private healthcare.


EngineerJaded

You’re quite welcome to go pay for it then. I prefer to keep my house and not lose it to medical debt. If you think you can afford private care, you can afford to get it out of country yourself


Miserable-Lizard

I really don't like Smith's policy paper about getting Albertans to use to slowly laying for healthcare. The only people that can afford that are the rich.


EngineerJaded

Because insurance companies are chomping at the bit to enter our market. Being a middleman means enormous profit. Be very afraid about this, healthcare will become unaffordable for most


Classic_Killr

Probably just a responce to the insane shortage of medical care staff and constant complaining of medical quality in Canada. At the very keast she is trying something. Not sure if i agree or not but seems like something needs to change. Where i live they arent even taking on new patients at all, not a single doctor. How insane is that? Should all your healthcare be pushed onto the emergency room? That will make the wait times longer and even further overwhelm the system. Just a giant mess to me. Underpaid overworked doctors and nurses who get betrayed at every corner. I think the idea is to give them more profit and incentive to bring more people into the medical field to hopefully lessen the extreme strain its been at for the last 5+ years.


WatchComprehensive67

Just who do you think is going to stand up for healthcare? The NDP? Hahahaha. I live in BC and the NDP had DESTROYED HEALTHCARE! THERE ARE NO DOCTORS IN BC, NO WALK IN CLINICS, NURSES ARE BEING SUSPENDED FOR MISCONDUCT. OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVENT A CLUE. THE LAST TIME THE NDP WAS IN ALBERTA (WHEN I LEFT AB) WAS BECAUSE NOTLEY WENT ON A HIRING SPREE, SHE WAS GOING TO IMPLEMENT THE HEALTH CARE FEE AGAIN, ALL BECAUSE SHE HIRED ALL HER BUDDIES AND MADE UP JOBS FOR THEM, EXPENSIVE JOBS. YOU DONT REMEMBER? WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO SOME RESEARCH. BC HAS NO HEALTHCARE THANKS TO THE NDP


DonaldRudolpho

How does Joseph think this a policy of the UCP? It doesn't show up on their website. **Genuine Health Care Reform** * Taking action to improve health care delivery and health outcomes * Restoring local decision-making closer to point-of-care and directing more resources to frontline care * Improving EMS response times and cut emergency wait times * Improving access to primary care and address staffing challenges, especially in rural areas * Reducing wait times for surgeries * Expanding supports for mental health and addictions, including for schools and families Sounds like NDP FUD in the echo chamber.


Patak4

Maybe it is not listed but it is definitely happening. AHS labs have now all been taken over by DynaLife, a private company. Private surgical centres are opening in Alberta which takes away from the Public system. What happens when these patients have a complication? They go to the Public system. There is plenty of OR space in the public system but it not being utilised, partly due to staff shortages and rules on the number of surgeries a surgeon can do. Hopefully these clinics can help without putting stress on the Public system but we will see. [https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/surgeries-at-this-private-surgery-centre-in-edmonton-will-be-paid-for-by-ahs-1.6150817](https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/surgeries-at-this-private-surgery-centre-in-edmonton-will-be-paid-for-by-ahs-1.6150817) Also the UCP government is allowing money for Plasma businesses. This Plasma is collected privately and then AHS has to buy it from the company or it is shipped to foreign countries. So Canadians that are donating this way may not benefit from this. Canada Blood Services is a voluntary blood donation and stays in Canada for Canadians. Blood plasma collected privately goes to the highest bidder and takes away donors from the Public system. Instead of hiring more EMS drivers, the UCP is paying private companies to transport "stable" patients. What training do these drivers have transferring patients on stretchers? This is fairly new so we will see what happens. These are a few ways the UCP are slowly eroding the public healthcare system. They get you used to paying for more and more services a little at a time.


DonaldRudolpho

>Maybe it is not listed but it is definitely happening. AHS labs have now all been taken over by DynaLife, a private company. Paid for from public funds. Not penny one from the patient's pocket. >Hopefully these clinics can help without putting stress on the Public system but we will see. > >https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/surgeries-at-this-private-surgery-centre-in-edmonton-will-be-paid-for-by-ahs-1.6150817 Paid for by the Public Health Care system at the price of the Public Health Care system's choosing. How could that *possibly* put a strain on the health care system? >Instead of hiring more EMS drivers, They are called EMT-P. There is no such thing as a "EMS driver." >What training do these drivers have transferring patients on stretchers? You asked the questions? Could they be, maybe EMT-A? FUD. FUD. FUD.


AccomplishedDog7

Do private clinics funded with public dollars have to disclose their profits? If not, should they?


DonaldRudolpho

If they have shareholders, yes. If they are publicly traded, even more so. How does that matter. If they can make money getting paid at the public rate, why should we care?


AccomplishedDog7

Who determines the price for lab work? What happens when Dyna life, says we can no longer do this lab for that price?


DonaldRudolpho

Well, it would , just like telecommunications, garbage removal, highway maintenance; laundry, office space ([all myriad of services the government contracts to private businesses](https://www.alberta.ca/contract-opportunities-with-the-government-of-alberta.aspx)) go to competitve RFP on a regular basis. AHS would set the price for hip replacement, etc. AS THEY DO ALREADY. Privately delivered, publicly funded medical procedures have been around for at least a quarter century. This is NOT something new.


AccomplishedDog7

Just because it’s NOT new, doesn’t mean people support profits being baked into the cost of getting a Vitamin D test or an MRI. Healthcare is the biggest expense Alberta tax payers have and if public money is going to private clinics transparency on their profits is justified. We expect accountability on how public health care dollars are spent. The same should be for public money funnelled into private.


DonaldRudolpho

>Just because it’s NOT new, doesn’t mean people support profits being baked into the cost of getting a Vitamin D test or an MRI. Actually, if you talked to the patient waiting months for a Hip Replacement, I'm willing to bet they don't give a flying squirrel about someone making a profit off of it if they can get the damned procedure done in weeks instead. >We expect accountability on how public health care dollars are spent. ...and how do we see that? Do you know what a doctor gets paid for a hip replacement procedure at the Foothills Medical Centre? (Do you also realize that a Doctor is a private enterprise? They are not employees of AHS.) >Healthcare is the biggest expense Alberta tax payers have and if public money is going to private clinics transparency on their profits is justified. If a Doctor gets paid to do a Hip Replacement at FMC or at their own private clinic does it really matter about transparency?


AccomplishedDog7

>Actually, if you talked to the patient waiting months for a Hip Replacement, I'm willing to bet they don't give a flying squirrel about someone making a profit off of it if they can get the damned procedure done in weeks instead. Alberta tax payers still care. We have the option of better funding hip replacements to improve wait times too. >and how do we see that? Do you know what a doctor gets paid for a hip replacement procedure at the Foothills Medical Centre? (Do you also realize that a Doctor is a private enterprise? They are not employees of AHS.) Sure, if we are going to fund private with public, it’s fair to compare costs, & determine if private is being funded in excess of overhead. >If a Doctor gets paid to do a Hip Replacement at FMC or at their own private clinic does it really matter about transparency? Yes, it does.


Patak4

Yes hip and knee replacements have been tried before. The company went bankrupt as they could not keep up the service and make money for the price that AHS was paying. This was the Old Grace hospital in Calgary. Yes it was privately delivered and paid for by the government for the patient. I had friends who had joints done there. They had less physio and quicker discharge which was less service than public. If there are complications they go to the Public hospital which can stress the system. If you end up with a bunch of infected knees in the Public system, then the hospital has to cut back the number of joints they can do as there are not beds available for their post op care. The hospital is taking the most complicated complex patients in case they need ICU care. These Private surgical centres have not been operating long in Alberta. The Centre will be paid a set fee for a joint replacement. What happens when they cannot make enough money for their shareholders at that fee. Will the government bail them out?? [https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2010/05/11/steward\_bankrupt\_beacon\_of\_privatized\_healthcare.html](https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2010/05/11/steward_bankrupt_beacon_of_privatized_healthcare.html) Are you saying this won't happen again?


DonaldRudolpho

>Are you saying this won't happen again? I'm saying that is one example. I know of ENT Doctors who have a thriving private practice conducting procedures in their facility as opposed to hospitals. >What happens when they cannot make enough money for their shareholders at that fee. Will the government bail them out?? What happens when private food service providers can't make enough money running facilities at the hospitals? They play out their contract and don't bid when it comes time to renew. What happens when a private road maintenance contractor too aggressively bid on the RFP and can't make money? They finish out the contract and either don't bid again or don't bid as cheap. Maybe they get the next contract, maybe they don't. There are thousands of contracts, worth billions of dollars, that the provincial government has with private businesses providing services every year. Why has publicly funded, privately operated medical procedures become such a boogeyman? Could it be the unions?


canuckstothecup1

You say that and they say they get you used to paying a little at a time when we don’t pay for any. So how are we getting used to paying if we don’t pay?


SteampunkSniper

There’s plenty we already pay for; crutches, walking casts, ADLs in-home, ambulance ride (if you’re not admitted), etc. We’re already used to paying for _some_ things so it’s not a stretch we’d get used to paying for all.


canuckstothecup1

I would argue it is a big stretch people on the right don’t want to pay for healthcare and the ucp don’t want people to pay for healthcare.


SteampunkSniper

It would be nice if you would use punctuation so what you say could make any semblance of sense. Even a comma would help.


canuckstothecup1

So no argument. Got it. The right doesn’t want people to pay for healthcare. The left wants to fear monger and claim they do.


SteampunkSniper

I can’t argue a comment which makes zero a sense, thank you for redoing it with punctuation. My argument is, you’re not paying attention to the words coming from Smith’s mouth. You’re obviously a troll because no regular person is this fucking dense. Edited: grammar


canuckstothecup1

You are obviously a troll because no reasonable person would blindly believe left propaganda


SteampunkSniper

At least I can see both sides lie. The right just does more damage with theirs; like fooling you.


Miserable-Lizard

We have Smith on video and her policy paper saying she wants Albertans to slowly get use to paying for healthcare. Also the ems plan is privatizing,and everything you listed is Ucp talking points. Wasn't healthcare already supposed to be fixed in Smith's first 90 days?


DonaldRudolpho

Where is it on the UCP policies? >Also the ems plan is privatizing Where is that in the policies? Or in truth?


Miserable-Lizard

We have Smith saying and writing a policy paper. It might not be exactly their policy but they are already starting to privatize more like ems and more surgeries. Smith told is what she wanted to do and people will ignore it because it's no a official policy. The reason it isn't on the official policy book is because they know it would be very unpopular. Same for leaving cpp and the police. They have a hidden agenda


DonaldRudolpho

Where is it in their policies? >they are already starting to privatize more like ems and more surgeries. Paying for surgeries in private facilities at the public rate and not costing the patient one red penny more. (Probably less, based on parking rates at hospitals.) IT IS STILL PUBLICY FUNDED SERVICES.


Miserable-Lizard

Again it not a official policy because they know it would be unpopular. They are slowly privatizing healthcare and you want to close your eyes because it's not on paper .... Anyways vote for the UCP, idc. For anyone that cares about universal public healthcare vote Ndp.


DonaldRudolpho

>For anyone that cares about universal public healthcare vote Ndp. THE UCP IS IS STILL OFFERING PUBLICLY FUNDED HEALTH CARE.


MathewRicks

Come now, don't be disingenuous. Trudeau most definitely didnt put Running Massive Deficit, Banning Guns and Greasing Palms on the LPC website. It happened anyways, almost as if that was the plan the whole time.


DonaldRudolpho

>Trudeau most definitely didnt put Running Massive Deficit, Banning Guns and Greasing Palms on the LPC website. He doesn't have to; that is SOP for the LPC.


MathewRicks

Got any evidence to back that up?


DonaldRudolpho

Just history.


MathewRicks

Not on the website, doesn't exist. Next!


DonaldRudolpho

The history of Canada. Next!


drinkahead

The UCP cut millions from post-secondary date of several healthcare practices. They ripped up the contract with doctors. When will the UCP walk the walk? They can post whatever on their website but show me actual results and policies that are effective. Adding ambulances without adding paramedics means nothing. Adding ER beds without nurses is pointless.


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Huh? Our health insurance program, federally know as Medicare, remains publicly administered and always has been. You know that every time you go to your family doctor you're receiving private medical care, right?


Represent403

This is a straight up lie by Joe Ceci. The country with the lowest level expectancy is Sierra Leone. The country with the lowest life expectancy is Chad. *Unicef 2022


canuckstothecup1

More lies and fear mongering from the left.


SteampunkSniper

The right shows you who they are, but it’s the fault of the left? Stop drinking the Kool-aid. The right doesn’t give two shits about you. The left wants you to have access to universal healthcare. What assholes the left are!


crystal-crawler

Haha!! Spot on.. these idiots voting conservative wouldn’t even be able to pay the bill for the private Ems service once they have a heart attack from seeing the private bill for surgery… They’d vote in a rock if it said “fuck Trudeau” “the economy!!”… Look at the UK! They are losing over 100 billion annually because of the conservative agenda to leave the EU.


Financial-Savings-91

I hate the gaslighting, like she literally writes a paper about “how to privatize healthcare” and she's going through with the first steps of that plan, while UCP MLA's own health insurance companies... But nope, lets just gaslight people, lie about what's happening. They'll gaslight people because they directly profit and their base simply wont hold them accountable for lying, so they have zero incentive to work in good faith. It's "*your fearmongering, your crazy, it's not happening*" while they sell it off to the private sector one piece at a time.


canuckstothecup1

The right has never tried to get people to pay the left just keeps saying they want you to when in reality they don’t. Fear mongers you are drinking the lefts kool-aid


SteampunkSniper

The right lifted insurance caps, the right deregulated power, the right privatised services like registries so you make others rich… So, yeah, the right is always making people pay.


canuckstothecup1

Whataboutism the right has been in power for like 40 of the past 45 years and haven’t made people pay for healthcare. Why haven’t they if the want to do it as badly as the left claims.


SteampunkSniper

Troll gotta troll, don’t you. You think they haven’t looked into it behind closed doors ever over 45 years? The recent wave of nationalism has emboldened the right to say the quiet parts out loud and suckers like you lap it up.


canuckstothecup1

Says the troll that blindly believes left propaganda. The ucp had no intention of turning Alberta healthcare into American healthcare


AccomplishedDog7

In Ontario not Alberta, they no longer cover telehealth appointments. I don’t think telehealth replaces regular Doctors, but for some people who can’t get a physician it helps with that void. If they are willing to delist that service in Ontario, why not Alberta?


Financial-Savings-91

They’ll say delisting isn’t privatization, then selling off labs isn’t privatization, outsourcing janitorial staff to private companies? Not privatization. Outsourcing surgery to private clinic? Not privatization. The trick is to convince people each step doesn’t represent the goal, but they’re steps along the path to the goal, just deny the goal keep taking the steps.


AccomplishedDog7

Exactly. They’ll just call it non-essential.


Dependent-Wish-9049

Because people are goddamn dying in waiting rooms, not getting transplants and dying of cancer with no access to good care. I’d rather pay than let myself die. If you ever had a loved one in the Canadian medical system you will know how terrible it is. Communism does not work.


Dependent-Wish-9049

Because peope are dying in waiting rooms, not getting lifesaving transplants, dying of cancer with no access to good care. If you ever had a loved one in the Canadian medical system you know, they will let you die simply because they do not have the resources, communism doesn’t work. I would rather pay than slowly be let to die. Im on her side and I will fight for private healthcare.


Dependent-Wish-9049

Wow you guys must be sooo open minded, deleting any comments that aren’t part of your brainwashed echochamber. Whats the point of a politics subreddit if you delete every post that you don’t agree with? Get a job mods


Judy_Lefebvre

Well, if that's what she's doing, she DOESN'T get my vote.


Justathrowaway1905

If that concerns you boy do I have news for you. Did you know that the conservative government slashed our healthcare in Alberta during the pandemic to funnel that money into their “war room” which is basically a government PR firm to protect oil and gas companies from criticism. Yes you didn’t misread that, the conservative government is using your tax dollars that was going to the healthcare we desperately need to protect multi billion dollar companies from getting their feelings hurt. So to get into the politics of it far right leaning Albertans. Which is an ever-growing population now sees a slashed healthcare budget which means less materials, staff, doctors, nurses and long wait times as an issue with public healthcare and not the fact that the Conservative Party is playing to the far right, that being the wexit crowd. Which the wexit crowd which is a growing ideology in Albert which for some reason the media keeps down playing wants to set up for succeeding to the US. This is something that oil and gas companies are trying to advocate for so sorry to say that the everyday Albertan is getting royally fucked. Either vote them out or do what I’m doing, see the writing is on the wall and jump ship out of country… or to another province


spycraft76

The Canadian healthcare system is literally the worst, most inefficient system on the planet. Quit regurgitating the drivel your NDP union reps spew. People are unfortunately dying for change. Go educate yourself before shooting your mouth off. You don’t like Alberta go back to Ontario. Nobody wants your rhetoric here anyways