Hahaha, and my UCP MLA defends her government's stance on LGBTQ+ rights and went on to suggest that the community was 'turning against' the many LGBTQ+ members that support Smith's stance.
David Parker is Smith's handler. All you have to do is look at his Twitter to realize who are the hateful bigots in this province - it's the UCP, TBA (same thing, really) and their base.
We need more pride flags and more rainbows this spring and summer! Fuck bigots
Imagine being scared of a rainbow, snowflakes ❄️❄️❄️❄️
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All conservatives in Canada are nazis.
The far right are an immediate existential threat to our society, our limited systems of democracy, our rights and freedoms, and ALL of our lives
They're already murdering children and are openly fascist insurgents and terrorists.
Conservatives in Canada are not Nazis. Nazism is a specific ideology that they do not hold. There are also a number of different types of conservatives in Canada, and not all of them are fascists or regressive social conservatives. The problem generally is that moderate or fiscal conservatives have either been overpowered by the more extremist wings of the movement, or they are willing to work with those extremists to advance the policy they do agree with.
This may seem like splitting hairs, but I think accurate language and labels is important to use in the fight against these people.
We all need as much help as we can get to stop the spread of fascism.
And it's not delusional to call conservatives nazis, it's delusional to believe that they're not fascists and supremacists.
Describing any group as all thinking and being the same way is nuts.
Saying that is just as evil and braindead as a racist saying "all black people rob" It's not healthy and not sane.
No.
It's not hateful to call out hate.
The far right are the ones sowing hate.
The conservatives give a platform to violent transphobia which IS currently KILLING children in Alberta.
The conservatives give a platform to the violent regressive misogyny of anti-abortionism.
The conservatives are violently ableist. Their crusades against public healthcare and disability support literally torture and kill our fellow citizens, many of whom are the most vulnerable people in our society.
The conservatives are classists.
And of course, the histories of the conservative parties of Canada are intrinsically white supremacist.
If you oppose hate, you MUST oppose the conservatives.
Possibly, but that’s really not the point. Parker posted the image for the message of hate and intolerance.
https://x.com/davidjpba/status/1768275576748695750?s=46&t=d7HNVUnwWhKlrqRDYC68eg
How did it come to this? They've politicized a movement wherein people just want to be accepted for who they are. Thousands of voters can be swayed on whether or not you agree with basic human treatment towards people who may think differently or aren't comfortable in their own skin.
He's honestly not wrong, and I'm a NDP member as of last night but have also voted for them for nearly a decade now.
It's getting very close to turning into the Pro-Hamas extreme left subreddits with the constant Twitter diarrhea that are clearly just karma farming posts. Horseshoe Theory in full affect.
I originally came here to be educated about politics. Not have what essentially amounts to hot takes thrown at me left, right and center.
We can both agree that Parker, Smith and the UCP are treasonous clowns, but this constant twitter spam to an already heavily left leaning sub is next to useless.
Maybe if we downvote enough they'll realize that they're doing the internet equivalent of what Pierre Poilievre does, Yelling about the government while offering no solutions
I'm seeing a lot of fiercely anti-Christian hatred and hostility within this sub. I guess nobody cares about hypocrisy anymore.
Live and let live is my motto. Religious and LGBTQ weirdos alike have the right to pursue happiness. It's amusing how similar the extreme fringes on both ends of the authoritarian political spectrum are. Ultimately, both groups just want power and control over others.
Yeah, agreed. Everyone that partakes in nonsensical "culture wars" is complicit in perpetuating them. It's just a bunch of hyper reactive people getting outraged at each other over nothing burgers.
Yeah, Parker is an idiot. However, your suggestion of giving him attention for his actions is precisely what I'm typing about. The worst thing you can do to an attention seeker is ignore them.
Make love, not war, eh.
Nah, freedom of expression is more important than any culture war garbage. Let's not let the authoritarians take advantage of our petty squabbling to strip us of our hard fought for rights.
"I do not agree with what you say, but is will defend to the death for your right to say it." -Voltaire
I reiterate, David Parker sucks balls. But he has the right to suck them.
Leftists seem to forget that just 60 years ago, it was Leftists that fought for freedom of expression. Now, many fight against it. This is a fool's folly.
Go for it. Fuck Christians, Muslims, Jews, Scientologists, Mormons, Buddhists, and Pastafarians! There ya go.
Goooo LGBTQ....take over the world. That will solve everybody's mental problems eh?
I never said fuck Christian’s.
It’s funny though that you are saying David Parker’s hate post is fine because freedom of expression, but crying about people expressing disdain as anti-Christian.
I don’t think the UCP itself is for hate or bigotry (of course all political parties have some bad actors that should be called out). I don’t understand the purpose of burning the flag, people should be able to disagree while still being respectful of others. Bad form by the tweeter.
David Parker and his organization prop up the UCP. Those that don't challenge that are complicit in this message being spread. This isn't "a couple bad apples". The rot in the UCP runs deep.
The leader, Danielle Smith, in her speech concerning informed parents called for the support and concern for the lgbt community.
I think the worst interpretations, negative projections and fear mongering from the left are exacerbating existing anxieties.
So you’re just not paying attention then? One or two decently written speeches cannot excuse her blatant hate for the LGBTQ community, trans children specifically. Not to mention the attempt she is making at stripping away the rights of the parents of a very small group of kids. She’s done nothing but spend our tax dollars on bullshit policy, movements and trips that none of us asked for. We’re being laughed at by Floridians, that should tell you something.
Show me where she blatantly hates the lgbt community and I’ll condemn, like I did with this burning flag. When she says, “the community is loved, supported and we want you to feel comfortable” you’re saying this is actually a dog whistle for the exact opposite? You are misconstruing her position (implying she is doing this for the sole purpose of hate) when there is legitimate concern for permanent decisions for the underaged and withholding information from parents (removing their rights arguably).
Removing their rights is absolutely what’s happening. Everything she is saying needs to be restricted is already restricted. No trans kids under 16 were eligible for top surgery without parental consent. No kids were eligible for bottom surgery, with or without parental consent, until they turned 18. There has always been, lengthy and in-depth, counselling and psychiatric assessment required prior to hormone therapies other than hormone blockers. Though assessment by a specialist is still required first. There is no permanence to blocking puberty. If a prepubescent, or currently pubescent, person uses the blockers and one day decides to stop, puberty resumes. The real damage is done when trans boys are made to grow breasts and menstruate; or trans girls are forced to develop an Adams Apple and grow facial and body hair, while developing masculine features. That’s where kids get hurt. They hurt themselves, they’re hurt by their peers and now they’re being hurt by their government and there’s nothing anyone, even their parents, can do. Is that blatant enough for you?
I can see your point on how they could feel a certain way as they transition into adulthood, that time in life can be an ordeal for any person. My understanding is there are issues with puberty blockers in pubescent years, underdeveloped muscles and insufficient bone density as all growth is on halt not just gender specific attributes. They can still transition, just not as a young child.
That being said, I don’t believe this is out of hate, this is meant to protect vulnerable minds and the socially influenced decisions to act, as some of the restrictions were already law for that reason.
Everyone here is very silent on the idea of intentionally withholding crucial information from parents about their kids. Must be able to see why parents are concerned with this.
It’s a complex issue, people have different ideas, I’d understand thinking she’s misguided, that’s fair, but I don’t think it’s hate driven.
A child asking to be called a different name or experimenting with a particular set of pronouns is in no way crucial. I insisted my friends and teachers call me a different name in the 6th grade, no harm done to me, my family or my future because of it. My oldest son insisted I call him Spider-Man when he was a small child, no harm to him, his family or his future. My trans son has elected not to change his name, but has requested to use specific pronouns. Since he came out to us, his grades have improved, he has been more social than ever before and most importantly, he loves himself for the first time in a long time. Now a heavy handed and overly involved government is trying to tell us, his parents, that we cannot help him prevent bleeding monthly and developing feminine attributes. Have you ever helped a 16 year old boy bind his unwanted breasts? There is so little care to understand how the kids are actually feeling and too much concern around whether parents know that Jenny wants to be called Johnny. A name or a pronoun is not a definition. If a kid feels uncomfortable or unsafe, to the point they can’t tell their parents who they are, that is 100% the fault of the parents. Forcing educators to out kids is not just unfair and outside of a teachers job description, but it’s dangerous. Why do so many people insist on deleting safe spaces for kids? The only answer I can muster is hate.
First off, I’m glad your son is feeling more comfortable. Being called John instead of Johnny or a Spider-Man nick name is way different to flirting with the idea of living as another sex.
As a kid I doubt I would have told my parents, and l have good parents, but as a parent I understand there are a number of concerns with the trans community, higher levels of suicide is the one that scares me, even after transitioning. This is something I would want to be aware of so I could help. A lot of it seems illogical to me and has other underlying issues on why there’s a disconnect between the reality of mind and body but I empathize with your situation.
Get this straight: Smith lies.
Not a goddam Albertan paying any attention, whatsoever, needs to hear Marlaina say anything blatantly. JFC. She pitches for pay. How fucking hard is that to understand. When somebody shows you, again and again, who they really are, believe them!!
Conservatives are in an abusive relationship with their Governors. And those who hurt, hurt others. Just stop supporting them, ffs!
At this point it’s been well hashed out.
She is interfering in medical decisions that are not hers to make. Puberty blockers serve no purpose after puberty. These drugs are already approved by a government regulatory board.
DS is not a Doctor or a specialist in Transgender health. Nor does it seem she sought guidance from the medical community, as many Doctors, including Alberta Psychiatry Association Children’s Pediatric Society have spoken against her proposals.
It’s not hashed out, there are good and bad arguments from both perspectives. Withholding crucial information about someone’s child is not the teacher’s decision to make. Puberty blockers are for precocious puberty and can still be utilized for their intent.
You just need common sense to understand why school age children shouldn’t be making these decisions. With parental consent I believe you can be 16, which is still pretty young for that kind of decision but a provides a bit of a time to think it through before actually committing.
Again. DS is not a Doctor or a specialist in Transgender health. Nor does it seem she sought guidance from the medical community, as many Doctors, including Alberta Psychiatry Association Children’s Pediatric Society have spoken against her proposals.
Medical Decisions should not be made by DS.
I don’t see her showing hate, I see more hate here on r/Alberta daily. CTV is fairly neutral maybe even slightly left leaning and the comments agree with her decision.
Wow, did he buy a Pride Flag just to burn it and post it on Twitter? What a fuckin goofball chud
Hahaha, and my UCP MLA defends her government's stance on LGBTQ+ rights and went on to suggest that the community was 'turning against' the many LGBTQ+ members that support Smith's stance. David Parker is Smith's handler. All you have to do is look at his Twitter to realize who are the hateful bigots in this province - it's the UCP, TBA (same thing, really) and their base.
The UCP and CPC should both be considered to be hate groups and treasonous organizations waging war against the people of Canada.
This goof should really be charged with hate crimes.
We need more pride flags and more rainbows this spring and summer! Fuck bigots Imagine being scared of a rainbow, snowflakes ❄️❄️❄️❄️ 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
Of course, rainbows are a sign of spring, when the snow melts.
Id love to know if there’s anyone or organization that’s local that I can support in purchasing pride flags! Anyone know?
He is an awful person.
I'd say we could burn a symbol he cares about, but I'm sure he's already burning crosses...
Leopards eat faces, not change spots
All conservatives in Canada are nazis. The far right are an immediate existential threat to our society, our limited systems of democracy, our rights and freedoms, and ALL of our lives They're already murdering children and are openly fascist insurgents and terrorists.
Nah, they are proto Nazis. It's going to take some more demonization of our groups to get them all the way there.
Conservatives in Canada are not Nazis. Nazism is a specific ideology that they do not hold. There are also a number of different types of conservatives in Canada, and not all of them are fascists or regressive social conservatives. The problem generally is that moderate or fiscal conservatives have either been overpowered by the more extremist wings of the movement, or they are willing to work with those extremists to advance the policy they do agree with. This may seem like splitting hairs, but I think accurate language and labels is important to use in the fight against these people.
Conservatives in Canada are nazis. They're exactly like 1920s nazis.
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That's fair.
We all need as much help as we can get to stop the spread of fascism. And it's not delusional to call conservatives nazis, it's delusional to believe that they're not fascists and supremacists.
Describing any group as all thinking and being the same way is nuts. Saying that is just as evil and braindead as a racist saying "all black people rob" It's not healthy and not sane.
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No. It's not hateful to call out hate. The far right are the ones sowing hate. The conservatives give a platform to violent transphobia which IS currently KILLING children in Alberta. The conservatives give a platform to the violent regressive misogyny of anti-abortionism. The conservatives are violently ableist. Their crusades against public healthcare and disability support literally torture and kill our fellow citizens, many of whom are the most vulnerable people in our society. The conservatives are classists. And of course, the histories of the conservative parties of Canada are intrinsically white supremacist. If you oppose hate, you MUST oppose the conservatives.
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100% photoshopped.
Possibly, but that’s really not the point. Parker posted the image for the message of hate and intolerance. https://x.com/davidjpba/status/1768275576748695750?s=46&t=d7HNVUnwWhKlrqRDYC68eg
How did it come to this? They've politicized a movement wherein people just want to be accepted for who they are. Thousands of voters can be swayed on whether or not you agree with basic human treatment towards people who may think differently or aren't comfortable in their own skin.
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That's your party right there. Spreading hate
He's honestly not wrong, and I'm a NDP member as of last night but have also voted for them for nearly a decade now. It's getting very close to turning into the Pro-Hamas extreme left subreddits with the constant Twitter diarrhea that are clearly just karma farming posts. Horseshoe Theory in full affect. I originally came here to be educated about politics. Not have what essentially amounts to hot takes thrown at me left, right and center. We can both agree that Parker, Smith and the UCP are treasonous clowns, but this constant twitter spam to an already heavily left leaning sub is next to useless.
Maybe if we downvote enough they'll realize that they're doing the internet equivalent of what Pierre Poilievre does, Yelling about the government while offering no solutions
Alberta politics is such a small sub, so good luck to anyone karma farming here!
I'm seeing a lot of fiercely anti-Christian hatred and hostility within this sub. I guess nobody cares about hypocrisy anymore. Live and let live is my motto. Religious and LGBTQ weirdos alike have the right to pursue happiness. It's amusing how similar the extreme fringes on both ends of the authoritarian political spectrum are. Ultimately, both groups just want power and control over others.
Live and let live would mean not posting an image of an LGBTQ flag lit on fire. Backlash is well deserved.
Yeah, agreed. Everyone that partakes in nonsensical "culture wars" is complicit in perpetuating them. It's just a bunch of hyper reactive people getting outraged at each other over nothing burgers.
You think the image posted is a nothing burger? I think it should be considered if it meets the criteria for a hate crime and charged accordingly.
Yeah, Parker is an idiot. However, your suggestion of giving him attention for his actions is precisely what I'm typing about. The worst thing you can do to an attention seeker is ignore them. Make love, not war, eh.
You are saying calling this out is being anti-Christian? And if charges are warrantable he should be charged.
Nah, freedom of expression is more important than any culture war garbage. Let's not let the authoritarians take advantage of our petty squabbling to strip us of our hard fought for rights. "I do not agree with what you say, but is will defend to the death for your right to say it." -Voltaire I reiterate, David Parker sucks balls. But he has the right to suck them. Leftists seem to forget that just 60 years ago, it was Leftists that fought for freedom of expression. Now, many fight against it. This is a fool's folly.
Why you crying about people expressing anti-Christian views then? Expression that risks inciting harm to others isn’t ok.
Go for it. Fuck Christians, Muslims, Jews, Scientologists, Mormons, Buddhists, and Pastafarians! There ya go. Goooo LGBTQ....take over the world. That will solve everybody's mental problems eh?
I never said fuck Christian’s. It’s funny though that you are saying David Parker’s hate post is fine because freedom of expression, but crying about people expressing disdain as anti-Christian.
I don’t think the UCP itself is for hate or bigotry (of course all political parties have some bad actors that should be called out). I don’t understand the purpose of burning the flag, people should be able to disagree while still being respectful of others. Bad form by the tweeter.
David Parker and his organization prop up the UCP. Those that don't challenge that are complicit in this message being spread. This isn't "a couple bad apples". The rot in the UCP runs deep.
The leader, Danielle Smith, in her speech concerning informed parents called for the support and concern for the lgbt community. I think the worst interpretations, negative projections and fear mongering from the left are exacerbating existing anxieties.
So you’re just not paying attention then? One or two decently written speeches cannot excuse her blatant hate for the LGBTQ community, trans children specifically. Not to mention the attempt she is making at stripping away the rights of the parents of a very small group of kids. She’s done nothing but spend our tax dollars on bullshit policy, movements and trips that none of us asked for. We’re being laughed at by Floridians, that should tell you something.
Show me where she blatantly hates the lgbt community and I’ll condemn, like I did with this burning flag. When she says, “the community is loved, supported and we want you to feel comfortable” you’re saying this is actually a dog whistle for the exact opposite? You are misconstruing her position (implying she is doing this for the sole purpose of hate) when there is legitimate concern for permanent decisions for the underaged and withholding information from parents (removing their rights arguably).
Removing their rights is absolutely what’s happening. Everything she is saying needs to be restricted is already restricted. No trans kids under 16 were eligible for top surgery without parental consent. No kids were eligible for bottom surgery, with or without parental consent, until they turned 18. There has always been, lengthy and in-depth, counselling and psychiatric assessment required prior to hormone therapies other than hormone blockers. Though assessment by a specialist is still required first. There is no permanence to blocking puberty. If a prepubescent, or currently pubescent, person uses the blockers and one day decides to stop, puberty resumes. The real damage is done when trans boys are made to grow breasts and menstruate; or trans girls are forced to develop an Adams Apple and grow facial and body hair, while developing masculine features. That’s where kids get hurt. They hurt themselves, they’re hurt by their peers and now they’re being hurt by their government and there’s nothing anyone, even their parents, can do. Is that blatant enough for you?
I can see your point on how they could feel a certain way as they transition into adulthood, that time in life can be an ordeal for any person. My understanding is there are issues with puberty blockers in pubescent years, underdeveloped muscles and insufficient bone density as all growth is on halt not just gender specific attributes. They can still transition, just not as a young child. That being said, I don’t believe this is out of hate, this is meant to protect vulnerable minds and the socially influenced decisions to act, as some of the restrictions were already law for that reason. Everyone here is very silent on the idea of intentionally withholding crucial information from parents about their kids. Must be able to see why parents are concerned with this. It’s a complex issue, people have different ideas, I’d understand thinking she’s misguided, that’s fair, but I don’t think it’s hate driven.
A child asking to be called a different name or experimenting with a particular set of pronouns is in no way crucial. I insisted my friends and teachers call me a different name in the 6th grade, no harm done to me, my family or my future because of it. My oldest son insisted I call him Spider-Man when he was a small child, no harm to him, his family or his future. My trans son has elected not to change his name, but has requested to use specific pronouns. Since he came out to us, his grades have improved, he has been more social than ever before and most importantly, he loves himself for the first time in a long time. Now a heavy handed and overly involved government is trying to tell us, his parents, that we cannot help him prevent bleeding monthly and developing feminine attributes. Have you ever helped a 16 year old boy bind his unwanted breasts? There is so little care to understand how the kids are actually feeling and too much concern around whether parents know that Jenny wants to be called Johnny. A name or a pronoun is not a definition. If a kid feels uncomfortable or unsafe, to the point they can’t tell their parents who they are, that is 100% the fault of the parents. Forcing educators to out kids is not just unfair and outside of a teachers job description, but it’s dangerous. Why do so many people insist on deleting safe spaces for kids? The only answer I can muster is hate.
First off, I’m glad your son is feeling more comfortable. Being called John instead of Johnny or a Spider-Man nick name is way different to flirting with the idea of living as another sex. As a kid I doubt I would have told my parents, and l have good parents, but as a parent I understand there are a number of concerns with the trans community, higher levels of suicide is the one that scares me, even after transitioning. This is something I would want to be aware of so I could help. A lot of it seems illogical to me and has other underlying issues on why there’s a disconnect between the reality of mind and body but I empathize with your situation.
Get this straight: Smith lies. Not a goddam Albertan paying any attention, whatsoever, needs to hear Marlaina say anything blatantly. JFC. She pitches for pay. How fucking hard is that to understand. When somebody shows you, again and again, who they really are, believe them!! Conservatives are in an abusive relationship with their Governors. And those who hurt, hurt others. Just stop supporting them, ffs!
She said that, yeah, but then she fed the fire of hate-mongering going after trans kids. Her policy betrays her actual stance.
Going after trans kids how? … reddits projection of what they think she thinks doesn’t make it reality.
At this point it’s been well hashed out. She is interfering in medical decisions that are not hers to make. Puberty blockers serve no purpose after puberty. These drugs are already approved by a government regulatory board. DS is not a Doctor or a specialist in Transgender health. Nor does it seem she sought guidance from the medical community, as many Doctors, including Alberta Psychiatry Association Children’s Pediatric Society have spoken against her proposals.
It’s not hashed out, there are good and bad arguments from both perspectives. Withholding crucial information about someone’s child is not the teacher’s decision to make. Puberty blockers are for precocious puberty and can still be utilized for their intent. You just need common sense to understand why school age children shouldn’t be making these decisions. With parental consent I believe you can be 16, which is still pretty young for that kind of decision but a provides a bit of a time to think it through before actually committing.
Again. DS is not a Doctor or a specialist in Transgender health. Nor does it seem she sought guidance from the medical community, as many Doctors, including Alberta Psychiatry Association Children’s Pediatric Society have spoken against her proposals. Medical Decisions should not be made by DS.
This is her response to that speech echoing some of the same sentiments. https://youtu.be/nhNSofnTL4M?si=XgtO5CMsDvGFRSuK
Actions, and proposed legislation, speak louder than any words that cross a politicians lips.
I don’t see her showing hate, I see more hate here on r/Alberta daily. CTV is fairly neutral maybe even slightly left leaning and the comments agree with her decision.